Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Cleveland Browns

Where: Cleveland Browns Stadium (Cleveland, OH)
When: 1:00 PM EST (CBS Today begins at 12:00 PM. WOIO coverage begins at 11:00 PM. WEWS and WKYC also have Browns programming; check your local listings.)
Announcers: Kevin Harlan/Rich Gannon (Game in HD) The last time the Cleveland Browns opened the season off against the Pittsburgh Steelers, it was our re-birth year and we were promptly blown out. Nearly a decade later, both teams are combating on opening day, and many things have changed, even from just one season ago. The Steelers said "goodbye" to long-time Steelers head coach Bill Cowher, making way for former Minnesota Vikings assistant Mike Tomlin. Tomlin is trying to put a slightly different scheme on the Steelers' defense, while giving Ben Roethlisberger some more control offensively. As for the Browns, it may be do or die time early on in the year for head coach Romeo Crennel. He has been horrible in division games, and will play three of them within the first four weeks of the season. After making the decision to start Charlie Frye in favor of Brady Quinn Week 1, will the decision pay off? Let's get to the breakdown of the game...
OFFENSE (LAST YEAR)
| Category | Steelers | Browns |
| Points Scored | 22.1 (12th) | 14.9 (30th) |
| Passing | 233.3 (9th) | 181.1 (23rd) |
| Rushing | 124.5 (10th) | 83.4 (31st) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 357.8 (7th) | 264.6 (31st) |
DEFENSE (LAST YEAR)
| Category | Steelers | Browns |
| Points Scored | 19.7 (11th) | 22.3 (22nd) |
| Passing | 212.1 (20th) | 202.6 (15th) |
| Rushing | 88.3 (3rd) | 142.2 (29th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 300.3 (9th) | 344.8 (27th) |
| Quarterback Before the draft, I was against the thought of drafting Brady Quinn so much, because I wanted the Browns to focus more on getting Joe Thomas. After getting the best of both worlds and seeing Quinn perform in the preseason, I wouldn't have had any issues with him starting on opening day. With that said, I completely agree and am in favor of starting Charlie Frye. I don't feel Ben Roethlisberger is an elite quarterback in this league, especially after his efforts at times last season, but he does have a tremendous winning percentage and a Super Bowl ring to brag about. Both quarterbacks are mobile, but Roethlisberger is able to dodge defenders a little bit better, especially when the game is on the line. |
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| Running Back The Browns made a definite upgrade with Jamal Lewis in the offseason, but there's no questioning that the Steelers always dominate the Browns on the ground. The last time these two teams met, Willie Parker ran for over 200 yards with ease. As Browns fans, we're hoping he doesn't crack that mark in the season opener, but our run defense is still quite vulnerable. Pittsburgh also has more depth in veteran Najeh Davenport, although Browns backup running back Jason Wright did have some success last year against the Steelers. For the Browns, having a running back that's already so used to facing Pittsburgh will not necessarily help pad the stats, but it can move the chains. |
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Receiver No one does it better than wide receiver Hines Ward, although when Leigh Bodden has been healthy, he has done a fine job at shutting him down. After Ward, the next biggest threat is Santonio Holmes, who looks to be on the verge of having a breakout second season with the way he finished last year. The Browns bring Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow to the rivalry again, both of whom are in desperate need of a huge game against the Steelers to further their popularity in Cleveland. Neither team has the greatest amount of depth past the top players, which is why the ranking is even. |
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Offensive Line I'm hoping that I don't have to eat my words with this one, because I think I may have only ranked the Browns' offense line even or better than the opposing team's offensive line twice all of last season. Did the additions of Eric Steinbach, Joe Thomas, and Seth McKinney put us on the same level as the Steelers' offensive line? I think it's a case where two parts cancel out. While I would still give the slight overall advantage to the Steelers, they have the better run blocking abilities while the Browns have the better pass blocking abilities. |
| Defensive Line Considering all of the positions, this is the one in which the Browns aren't even close to competing. I'd take Casey Hampton as our nose tackle in a heartbeat, and I'd probably ditch all three of our starting linemen if necessary just to get him. Defensive ends Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel are solid as well, and play a huge role in the reasoning why Pittsburgh is able to shut down the running games of almost every team in football. It'll be interesting to see if Orpheus Roye is able to return for the Browns, and also how well Robaire Smith will do in the rivalry. |
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Linebacker The Steelers are full of veterans, even after dumping the loud-mouthed Joey Porter, but the Browns are full of youth that could wreck havoc in the NFL this year. Kamerion Wimbley and Antwaan Peek have the potential to cut down on all of the side-to-side running plays the Steelers try to pull off. The Steelers are counting on James Harrison to play at a starting level in place of Porter, which is something the Browns may want to try and see if they can exploit early on. |
| Secondary With the exception of Troy Polamalu, I've never been very high on the Steelers' secondary, and I don't think they did anything in the offseason to address the issue. The Browns may have had a problem in the secondary too had they not drafted cornerback Eric Wright, who has the potential to be complete the best secondary the Browns have had since returning to the league. Safety Brodney Pool will heavily be depended on to ensure that the non-impact players on the Steelers don't break out. He's finally a starting safety and needs to show that he's not a vulnerability. |
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| Special Teams The status of Dave Zastudil is still in question after the signing of Paul Ernster, which could pose big problems for the Browns. Zastudil has been so good at consistently punting the ball deep and getting it down inside the 20, and you don't want to risk losing that. The Steelers acquired returner Allen Rossum from the Atlanta Falcons a few days ago, but Joshua Cribbs has clearly shown that he is one of the few men in the NFL that can take a kick back the distance on any given play. |
Something about a Steelers team that was average last season under Bill Cowher, and is entering this season with their first new head coach in a decade and a half, tells me that the opening of the season will not be too bright for them. The only thing I keep hearing about the Steelers are assumptions: the Steelers will run the defense fine under Tomlin, and Ben Roethlisberger won't make as many mistakes as he did last year. I think the Steelers have the potential to do well, but I need to see them win before I can make that commitment. The Browns will play a mistake-free game, good enough to just barely slip by with a win.
For an extra thing, here's my prediction for the first play of the game: a four-yard carry by Jamal Lewis.
This is the official gameday topic for the first game of the regular season, featuring the Cleveland Browns against the Pittsburgh Steelers. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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at least we have one good thing going for us.... willie mcginest is also out for the game. hahaha
by kjc on Sep 9, 2007 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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QB Brady Quinn (Third QB)
FB Charles Ali
WR Travis Wilson
OG Isaac Sowells
OT Kelly Butler
LB Willie McGinest
CB Gary Baxter
P Dave Zastudil
I'm surprised that Nat Dorsey is active over Kelly Butler. What could possibly be the reason for this, unless I overlooked an injury. For the record, do NOT hope to see Brady Quinn in this game. Unless our quarterbacks go down with injuries, Quinn will not be able to enter the game.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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The Pittsburgh Steelers have declared LB Arnold Harrison, QB Brian St. Pierre, OL Darnell Stapleton, RB Gary Russell, CB Ricardo Colclough, OT Trai Essex, WR Willie Reid inactive for Week 1.
No surprises.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by APV on Sep 9, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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We simply don't looked prepared. That's on the coaching staff.
by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by APV on Sep 9, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by JulioBernazard on Sep 9, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Now, take the complete opposite, and you'll have the Browns opening quarter :p
The only positive thing is the thing that was supposed to be a negative: our run defense. Also, my concern about Brodney Pool came true already.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Let's start putting that package together to get Cowher.
by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by APV on Sep 9, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I never thought I'd say this heading into the game...I want to see Derek Anderson in the second half, and Brady Quinn next week.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Anderson is warming up. I bet Romeo is regretting keeping Quinn off the active roster.
by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Fundamentals on Sep 9, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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The offense is an absolute nightmare. God, I actually feel sick to my stomach watching this.
by mrich on Sep 9, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Romeo, dude, you need to get in somebody's face.
by mrich on Sep 9, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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/facenda mode on
NFL History
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as much as I can see the value in stability, I don't think Crennel is the one to provide it. And at the time, I thought he was the best candidate out there
by Casey Jones on Sep 9, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by mjmarble on Sep 9, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Casey Jones on Sep 9, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I'm not sure on the official rules clarification regarding Brady Quinn's eligibility today. He may be able to play in the fourth quarter...wish I had a rulebook handy.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by JulioBernazard on Sep 9, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Holy shit we scored!
by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Casey Jones on Sep 9, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by TonyH on Sep 9, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Knowing Rich Gannon's game, I would be very interesteed to hear what tips he let slip through his, umm, ways of communication... I hope he's a better analyst than he was a QB, but then again he wouldn't have been assigned to the Browns' opening day if he had potential in the booth...
by Casey Jones on Sep 9, 2007 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by fwembt on Sep 9, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by mrich on Sep 9, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I don't know why I put myself through this. I did not have high expectations for this season, but this is ridiculous.
by TonyH on Sep 9, 2007 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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-Kellen Winslow
-Antwaan Peek
That's about it.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Circle your calendars for the Raiders game in two weeks. It'll be our only win for awhile at this rate :p Although I have a feeling Brady Quinn may be getting in for the coming weeks...
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Ernster was a disaster.
Charlie Frye should not play another down in the NFL. There was a national reporter (I can't remember if it was ESPN or SI, that said one NFL coach flat out told him that Frye was not a NFL caliber quarterback).
Derek Anderson is inconsistent from play to play.
We lost the special teams battle, and that was supposed to be a strength.
Fumbles by Lewis and Edwards just can't happen.
Run defense looks the same as last year- good to start, then get warn down.
Wimbley and Peek should be a force, hopefully they start mixing it up and letting other LB's or maybe even safteys blitz.
Corners looked good, overall, i think.
Pool is a major work in progress, at least two of the TD's were his mistake in coverage.
Who is number 62? He has been next to Quinn all day.
Why no shots down the sidelines to Edwards or Carter?
I thought Cribbs would be used more- only one real touch.
The Brady Quinn era should start next week!
by DaytonDogg on Sep 9, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 9, 2007 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by kjc on Sep 9, 2007 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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God, I hate the Steelers. I hate that the media seems to believe that they are anything more than punks.
by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by woodsmeister on Sep 10, 2007 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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You know what, I'm 100% sick of "quarterback controversy" and "the Browns" in the same sentence. We need to start Brady Quinn, just to have the comfort of know that he IS our guy, no matter how good or bad he performs.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I think they should have stayed to the end if they are going to complain. If you leave early in the game, how invested are you in the team?
by palcal on Sep 9, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by palcal on Sep 9, 2007 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by JulioBernazard on Sep 10, 2007 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Remember when he cold cocked Earl Little a few years ago? He stood there and danced over him while he was out cold. Little was never the same after that.
I wouldn't want to see him permanately injured, but someone ought to make him miss some games like two or three seasons.
He's a great player, but a complete thug. I don't care how much he does for charity. Get him!
by Cactus Jack on Sep 9, 2007 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Truth B Known on Sep 9, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by APV on Sep 9, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jdudas on Sep 9, 2007 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Romeo is so obvously not the answer and this was fully evident last year. He lacks intensity. Certianly a nice guy, probably a wonderful husband & father & teacher, but not a head coach in the NFL.
Today, like much of last year, the team seemed leaderless, poorly prepared and completely unmotivated. These are the three greatest responsibilities of the head coach - to lead, to prepare & to motivate. Romeo consistently comes up short in all three areas.
Savage has seen what we all have seen yet he refuses to pull the plug on this likeable yet wholly inadequate coach.
Now we are into another year with no leadership on the horizon & a dismal frustrating season awaiting us.
The beginning of the return to glory has been delayed at least another year.
Terry O.
by TerryO on Sep 9, 2007 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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With the exception of Winslow's big catches after the game was out of reach, I'd say our Number 1 picks are AWOL.
Braylon must be sulking for his Alma Mater.
God, am I glad I didn't get sucked into PSLs and season tickets. And Lerner pulled it off without a mask or a gun.
by Truth B Known on Sep 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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"I'm so ready to hurry up and win it, and get over that ... Pittsburgh hump," said Cribbs. "Then, we can go on with the rest of our conference."
"We're of course defending our house," said Cribbs. "We're all familiar with the rivalry, but we feel we have the necessary elements on our football to make it happen."
Wow. Cribbs is definitely drinkin' Phil's Training Camp Kool-Aid.
by Truth B Known on Sep 9, 2007 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by TerryO on Sep 9, 2007 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Oh God, its gonna be a long season.
by BringBackKosar on Sep 9, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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The players on our team didn't show that "smash mouth attitude" that makes it seem like we're an NFL football team. There were too many aspects of the game in which we were just overwhelmed. The only played who really seemed to have a nice swagger was Antwaan Peek, who ironically was bred from a franchise besides the Browns.
by ChrisPokorny on Sep 9, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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For most of my life, I've followed Drew Bledsoes career until the end...when he retired this year. I decided that it wasn't all that much fun to follow a QB, but I really needed a TEAM to follow.
I considered many teams, including the Cardinals, Bears, Browns, Packers, 49ers, and Raiders. However, they all seemed to have something just bad about them. The Raiders have nasty fans. The Bears are forever condemned to a terrible offense. The Packers are in limbo, and I would never get tickets to a game if I was in Green Bay. The Cardinals have a pretty boy as their QB. However. the Browns...there just seemed to be something about them. Maybe it was the lack of a logo, maybe it's because they seem to be making great strides towards greatness, maybe its because of Crennel....but it just seemed like the right fit.
So, the night the season started, I declared myself a Browns fan....for a long, long time.
Then, Sunday rolls around....I learn what it's like to be a Browns fan.
I was used to watching some ineptness when watching Bledsoe play, but man, this was just...bad. Fumbled Punt, incerceptions...it was sad. Every first down seemed like a battle. And that TD felt like I had just made it up Mount Everest for the 5th time in a row. But hey, at least it was a good feeling.
So, for better or worse, I'm here. I have a feeling there may be long, long seasons ahead, but I can still hope that the team I picked....will make it big.
Go Browns!
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by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 10, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Why does the team not have a backup punter? You should not be trying to find a punter 24 hours before the game.
And who says Zastudil would have been worse than the E-man? Couldn't he suck it up if he had been stringing the team along all week?
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"I disagree emphatically that "he should sit this year". That accomplishes very little in the quest for a return to glory.
Quinn's the future QB of this franchise. We know what Frey & Anderson are going to give us & it's painfull to think about. There is nothing more that a young, promising QB, like Quinn needs than EXPERIENCE. Nothing can replace game action for giving him that experience.
Cutler, Leinart & Young's coaches knew that & they gave their rookie QB's what they needed.
Hopefully Romeo will do the same."
by TerryO on Mon Aug 20, 2007 at 09:26:20 AM EDT
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I know many disagreed but I stand by my opinion.
When you have a Cadillac in the garage, you don't take your beat up Yugo out for Sunday drives.
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by Cactus Jack on Sep 10, 2007 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Peter King's MMQB column contains a fair bit about the Browns, but it's not exactly what I had in mind by a 'return to relevance':
g. Wait -- give me a separate category for Cleveland. What I wonder after watching chunks of that game is, how can you work for an entire training camp and look like that? "If the gamut runs from A to Z,'' GM Phil Savage said last night, "that was a Z.'' Maybe a letter doesn't exist for what that was.
4. I think, still, that Romeo Crennel has to stand strong and not put Quinn on the field. Not yet anyway. Four of the next five games, before Cleveland's bye, come against teams that finished in the NFL's top 10 in defensive rankings last year. "Our whole thought was Charlie [Frye] and Derek [Anderson] keeping us functional through the tough part of our schedule,'' Savage told me. And now? "If you ask 70,000 people in our stadium today, the process got accelerated. We'll meet [Monday morning] and discuss it. But I think you run into trouble if you change your plans after one game. Back in 1999, we lost to Pittsburgh 43-0 in the first game of the season with Ty Detmer playing and we threw Tim Couch in there. You saw how that turned out. Once Brady goes in, that's it; there's no turning back. To do it after the first week ...''
Look, the Browns know this season's a wash. Frye got sacked five times in the first 23 minutes against Pittsburgh. Do you want the kid shellshocked in September, or do you want him to play after he's had more than 92 snaps (the real number) with the first unit since he signed his contract?
d. Cleveland's first series Sunday: Jamal Lewis for 2, Frye incomplete pass, Frye sacked, new punter Paul Ernster fumbles the punt snap and gets off a wobbly 15-yarder. On fourth down, Cleveland had three penalties declined -- a hold, an illegal formation and ineligible receiver downfield.
by APV on Sep 10, 2007 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by seamus on Sep 10, 2007 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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And, I got so sick of hearing analysts last night sat "Man, I'm sure Brady Quinn is thinking "I don't want ANY part of this!" Every time I heard that, I wanted to slap those morons. Why wouldn't Quinn want the opportunity to come in and rally this team? They seemed to neglect the fact that almost all of Pittsburgh's sacks were due to Frye hanging onto the ball for 5-6 seconds in the first half. As soon as Anderson was in the game, he was sacked only once on a play where he mistakeningly pumped a quick hitter on a third down play in which the blitz was obvious from the edge.
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by JulioBernazard on Sep 10, 2007 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Either way, it's a crap situation.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 10, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Someone give me a real example of a QB whose career development was harmed because he was named the starter too early.
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