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New York Giants vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread

New York Giants at Cleveland Browns, Oct 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT


NEW YORK GIANTS (4-0) WEEK 6 CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-3)
VS.
Date: October 13, 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH
Time: 8:30 p.m. ET
Stadium: Cleveland Browns Stadium
TV: FOX
Favorite: Giants by 8
Radio: WMMS, 100.7 FM Over/Under: 43½
SBN Coverage: Big Blue View Announcers
Annoying ESPN Guys

NOTE: I will be attending the game tonight, and therefore will not be able to chime in with commentary as I usually do. If you're viewing the game from home though, please have a blast with keeping the thread active; I hope to come home and see over 500 comments ;)

As more reading digest, you can also check out some questions about today's game that I answered for MSG.com. I have also previewed key position matchups for today's game over at BBV.

We can't head into this game feeling like underdogs. Yesterday, the Dallas Cowboys fell to the Arizona Cardinals. And, the Washington Redskins lost to the St. Louis Rams. The Rams! If that's not a clear reminder that any team can do anything on any day, then I don't know what is. After coming off a bye week, it's a real shame that Kellen Winslow probably won't be able to play, but I think we're getting a more important piece of the puzzle back in Donte Stallworth.

With Ryan Tucker also set to return, will our offensive line be able to hold off the Giants' pass rush and upset the defending Super Bowl Champions? Let's kick off this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...

OFFENSE

Category Giants Browns
Points Scored 31.75 (1st) 11.5 (32nd)
Passing 249.8 (6th) 123.8 (32nd)
Rushing 181.3 (1st) 87.0 (25th)
Total Offense (yards) 431.0 (1st) 210.8 (32nd)

DEFENSE

Category Giants Browns
Points Scored 12.25 (2nd) 19.5 (9th)
Passing 154.0 (1st) 187.0 (10th)
Rushing 82.0 (6th) 126.0 (23rd)
Total Defense (yards) 236.0 (3rd) 313.0 (14th)

 

 

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Quarterback

I would have ranked Eli Manning and Derek Anderson close to each other at the start of the season, but each quarterback has headed in a different direction. Where as  Manning has played like the Super Bowl winning quarterback he was last season, Anderson has not even come close to living up to the potential he showed last season. I am encouraged by the positives Anderson showed late in the fourth quarter last week, but nobody can be convinced that that's the Anderson that'll show up today. Anderson did not react too well against the Giants' pressure in the preseason, so we'll see if things are any different this time around.

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Running Back

Brandon Jacobs is averaging 5.8 yards per carry. Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw are each averaging 6.6 yards per carry. Corey Williams' trash-talking during the week is a little too arrogant for a guy who hasn't shown up much this season, but stopping Jacobs will obviously make or break us. The Browns are still trying to get more production out of Jamal Lewis, and if the team sticks to their word, he will be at the focal point of the gameplan this week. With the Giants being so physical down near the goal line, I hope we don't run Lewis over and over again like we did early on against the Bengals a few weeks ago. It'd be more beneficial to work with the fade route to Braylon Edwards on several tries, or to insert Jerome Harrison and run a middle screen to counter the Giants' pressure.

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Receiver

Welcome back, Donte Stallworth. It'll be Stallworth's first game of the season, though something is still clearly wrong with the Browns' receivers. Take a look at the Giants and the Cardinals. Plaxico Burress missed last week due to suspension, yet Domenik Hixon catches for over 100 yards and 1 touchdown. Anquan Boldin has missed two games, but backup Steve Breaston has looked like a Pro Bowler in his place. If Syndric Steptoe couldn't offer that type of production, how did we not find someone that could? With Kellen Winslow set to be out, it's not a total lost. Anderson has historically had a fair amount of success with Steve Heiden, including in his debut against the Kansas City Chiefs a few years back.

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Offensive Line

The Giants' offensive line has only allowed Manning to be sacked five times this year, and they've paved the way for their running backs to average nearly 6 yards every time they touch the ball. The Browns have been less impressive this year with Rex Hadnot at right guard, but I'm going to give the Browns the "even" ranking this week because it's the only position where they match up well heading into the game. With Ryan Tucker set to return, he will have a huge responsibility trying to contain Justin Tuck. If the Browns' lineman are able to recognize their faults from the preseason and make the appropriate adjustments, we may have a shot at pulling off an upset tonight.

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Defensive Line

Shaun Smith was downgraded to doubtful a few days ago, and it's expected that Louis Leonard will replace him. That makes it even more critical that our offense stays on the field by running the football, because if we allow the Giants to control the clock, Shaun Rogers will be gassed by the time the second half comes around. Smith won't be able to come in to replace him, and Brandon Jacobs will then tear through the defense with more ease than before. Although the Giants don't have Osi Uminyiora or Michael Strahan this year, the production and intensity on the defensive line is just as good, if not better, than it was last season. I envy the Giants for being able to insert their third-string lineman and receive nearly equivalent production to our starters.

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Linebacker

Giants middle linebacker Antonio Pierce has a quadriceps strain, but he insists that he will play against the Browns. The versatility of the Giants' defensive line allows them to treat some of their lineman as linebackers in pass-rushing or drop back situations. The Browns don't have that advantage -- Kamerion Wimbley is never seen dropping back and coverage. Willie McGinest's return is actually huge for the Browns' defense in this game, because without Shaun Smith available, he may be counted on to line up on the defensive line with Williams shifting to the other side of the field, or vice-versa. Either way, rookie LB Alex Hall will have another chance to shine with an increased role.

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Secondary

As Ed from Big Blue View stated earlier in the week, the Giants' cornerbacks can be taken advantage of if Anderson remains poised when the linebackers blitz. The problem is, the Giants are usually so effective at rushing the quarterback, that there isn't enough time to get a throw down the field without being hit as you release the ball. I've been really impressed by how well the Browns' secondary has handled themselves the past three games, but now it's time for some redemption. Domenik Hixon, known as a fifth-string backup in the preseason, made headlines by torching the Browns for three touchdowns.

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Special Teams

Hixon has done well on punt returns for the Giants, but Joshua Cribbs' potential still supercedes that. Before the bye, Cribbs appeared to be getting a little more of a burst again. Having two weeks off, I expect Cribbs to be back at full strength and prepared to accelerate for all of the scores the Giants throw up on the board.


FINAL PREDICTION:
New York Giants 31, Cleveland Browns 20.
I could take the fun route and predict an upset, but the Giants are a team that hasn't let anyone down for awhile.
The Giants are clearly the team to beat in the NFL at the moment, so it would be a huge lift for the Browns' confidence if they were able to squeak out an upset. Either way, I just hope the game doesn't turn out like the first half encounter between the Giants and the Browns in the preseason.

This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 6 as they battle the New York Giants on Monday Night Football! All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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I think this is either going to be really bad or really good for us. If we lose I think it will be by a lot. If we win, well, any win is really good.

by gahnki on Oct 13, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree this could be ugly or a much needed win…I dont see it being a close loss and a “moral” victory.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking that maybe having a blocking TE like Heiden in there could help to make a difference. And while he may not be as fast as Winslow, he is able to catch the ball as well.

by JustBob on Oct 13, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After watching the game, this was a very prescient call. Heiden was just manhandling Tuck on some of the runs.

by oxforddave on Oct 14, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really prescient. I watched Heiden play like that before Winslow (finally) made it to the field. He is a beast. I was in the stands in Atlanta in (2005?) when the Browns held Vick in check (thanks to Leon Williams) and Heiden was a huge part of that offense.

by JustBob on Oct 15, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I’m heading off now guys. GO BROWNS!!!

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 13, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will be watching the game at work (Sportsbar down here in Marietta GA). Haven’t been around much due to computer problems, but I would just like to say,

“GO BROWNS”!!!!

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 13, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys Mizzou fan here with a question about Martin Rucker

I was trying to find out what he is up to with you guys now. I know he messed up his knee in the pre-season, but I want to know if he is back yet and if he is expected to do anything this year. Thanks

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #12 5-1 (1-1). Next up at Texas. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.

by nji232 on Oct 13, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he’s expected back this year. Looked reasonably good in TC, lots of potential.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I hope he does big things for you guys. Prolly my favorite Tiger player the last few years.

Your 2008 Missouri Tigers! #12 5-1 (1-1). Next up at Texas. Jeremy Maclin can still win the Heisman.

by nji232 on Oct 13, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too, because KWII has a limited lifespan with all his injuries, probably. Sorry to see your guys lose on Saturday, my old roomate went to Mizzou and I kind of root for yall.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be great to have him tonight with K2 out…looks like he is still out for a few weeks.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Over under on comments about the game

15 mentions about the horrible start for the Browns
10 mentions about the size of Brandon Jacobs
20 mentions about the Super Bowl and….
Hopefully only one mention about Brady coming in and replacing DA.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Superbowl 2 and counting

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn get this thing started I hate it when late games start late

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think brady plays tonight – which unfortunately means we’re going to get smoked – and DA never sees the field again

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my pre-game prediction

Jamal Lewis is gettin’ STUFFED

I’ll check back later

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

steinbach is back full-strength tonight, right?

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow, inauspicious start…..Here comes a lot of jlew.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT!

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, look, Donte Stallworth sighting.

And a penalty on the Browns already.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey – I like this Braylon Edwards. I hope he plays all game.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another penalty! That’s one that counts.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Penalties

9.3/game huh? Is that on the players or coaches?

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mostly on the coaches. romeo doesn’t exactly enforce a strict “discipline” regime

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

****ing damnit, DA.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A little early for the boobirds, I would think.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch any of the previous 4 games? Those boos are cumulative.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s probably true. Fan base is just frustrated. I know that fumbled snap had me gritting my teeth.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i immediately said “jesus, derek”…never even considered that it could be someone else’s fault

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’re not getting shut out tonight! Woo-hoo! Small victories.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WE SCORED!!!

Now can the D step up? I want to see a great game from the LB’s for the first time since the Buffalo game last year. (the snow game).

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would settle for a reasonable illusion that we have linebackers on the field.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry to be the pessimist, but don’t hold your breath for a great LB game. our LB’s suck, and the giants’ o-line mauls in run blocking

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I wish that Wimbley at least doesnt look like a stiff today.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me, too. but he’s been a stiff 19 of the last 20 games, unfortunately.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson

D came to play today and they seem to be getting to Jacobs all at the same time.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eli voice

My friends are Eagles fans and they have a great Eli voice. Just scream in a 13 year old boy high pitched cracking tone and say “Shit man” everytime he gives the puzzled face after an incompletion.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the replay ESPN just showed…that was a TERRIBLE miss of edwards by anderson. you’re looking at a lame duck at QB. guy’s got ZERO confidence right now.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When he misses those looks it’s just as frustrating as when a pass is way off the mark.

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, you called that one.

by fwembt on Oct 14, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good gravy our defense is porous

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really like seeing 5-6 browns dragging Jacobs down.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Take that, SuperBowl Hero!

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT IS WHAT IM FUCKING TALKIN ABOUT BRODNEY WOOOOOO

GOOD FREAKING PASS RUSH

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey hey, some defense

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow. i was not aware that we run the interception play…or pretended to play pass defense. color me surprised.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I cant believe this…..we have a defensive stand

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DA

He better get his head out of his ass..NOW!

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the first play of the year where chud has earned his money. that was great…get the ball in cribbs’ hands MUCH more often

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lewis is looking decent

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

money run on 3rd down there

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

d

HOLY SHIT STOP WITH THE PENALTIES

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How about a throw downfield?

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

f*ck that. this is working. keep after it. i’m not ready for a DA pick just yet

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be pretty enthusiastic if Anderson could LEAD A &#&((&$&*_R*)*)( RECEIVER

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phil

Damn that looked good too

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DAMNIT. We’re punching a defense in the mouth, and then stop to punch ourselves.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pool

Great pick now that we saw it again. At least the first is over and we are leading.

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ahh the old thunder and lightning reference

I hope we can stop the run at some point

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

44 — I know you’re new here, so I’ll let you know that we really don’t use the subject line. It’s rather unnecessary, and the posts are actually much easier to read without them.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel sick.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice tackling, linebackers

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two good drives and only three points to show for it. That really hurts.

Then we give up an easy TD. You have to score TD’s to win — we can’t keep settling for field goals.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have an idea: no procedure penalties on this drive.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can’t believe he held on. that was awesome.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braylon’s back

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s get a TOUCHDOWN!!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LEAST. ORGANIZED. TEAM. IN. FOOTBALL.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…and a wasted time out. should have known that was coming.

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

weak on our part

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the timeout is great…..everyone should think about what they just did and how they can do it again.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh. Well, one of these games we’re going to need our timeouts at the end of a half.

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That DB needs a new jockstrap…

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bray!

He needed to turn on the jets there and score….WTF is with the TO?

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TD!!!!!!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JAMAL — wide open lane in to the endzone!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

z

THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT JLEW

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop using the subject line, please.

And yes, great run….The O-Line is really playing their asses off.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the agility he’s showing

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good to see another team waste a TO

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you ask TO, he’d tell you that Dallas is wasting a TO.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like what you did there.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogers is absolutely BEASTING the O-line thus far.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that’s nice to see.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXCELLENT defensive stand. Rogers and Hall pressuring Eli, GREAT defense by brandon mcdonald on Plax, and an excellent open field tackle on third. I am absolutely loving this right now.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good defense. Let’s keep moving the ball on offense.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pressure on the QB

This is what we have been lacking all year…still where the hell is Wimbley????

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, I’ll say it again . . .

44 — I know you’re new here, so I’ll let you know that we really don’t use the subject line. It’s rather unnecessary, and the posts are actually much easier to read without them.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

uhhhh…..really?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that’s the 5th procedure penalty. And the second wasted timeout. That is some embarassing stuff.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braylon has more yards in the first half than he has all season, previously.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally helping my fantasy team!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a league where I need Edwards to keep outscoring Plexiglass.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, it has been brutal to mine too. I drafted Braylon high, thinking he would keep up last years pace.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a tough catch in traffic by Edwards. I like this Braylon Edwards.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edwards’ head is in the game for the first time this season. I love it.

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

clearly Kellen Winslow has been the problem with this team

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame Kevin Shaffer.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is like watching last year’s offense!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Smaller but incredibly important point….they are doing very well with TOP. Keeping the defense from getting worn down.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey – a confident quarterback can make Steptoe look like an NFL receiver.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Darnell Dinkins sighting. For 6.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you’re seeing DA’s confidence grow w/ every throw. shit…i was hoping for brady

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With their backs against the wall, the Browns are responding well, at least so far. Now we need to stay aggressive on offense.

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big series for the defense here — we can’t let the Giants close the gap before halftime.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright, let’s hold them to a FG . . .

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or fumble recovery!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a penatly….damn.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, let’s force a fumble

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I can’t believe that happened. We are totally shooting ourselves in the foot.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did we not expect that play?

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn damn damn — that was big for them. There goes our 10-point lead

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

T-Cuz is not having a good night

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to blame him there — not much he could do given the nice throw and the height difference.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could he get within 6 feel of the WR?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop booing — we’re WINNING!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C.H.U.D. & Co. need to figure out what the heck they are doing late in games

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C’mon – they had 8 seconds. The defensive breakdowns and boneheaded penalties were much worse. All I can say, is that the referees better be all over calling contact downfield on any Giants defensive backs, because that was a ticky-tack penalty that does not get called 80% of the time.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take that, Tom Jackson

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There is a reason he is last in the ESPN pick em this year

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny how we have a Pavlovian expectation of penalty flags on good plays now

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwards was close to clipping

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big play! Lots of creativity on offense tonight

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could Tony Cornheiser be any worse?

I wish I could get Cleveland radio just so I didn’t have to listen Cornheiser’s moronic comments.

by gentryholdem on Oct 13, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is the worst

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorenson’s pretty bad on the blitz, too

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGinest is poo

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alex Hall at least is playing well so far on the blitz

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hall is better than Wimbley…already

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice finally a penalty on the Giants

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will def interference ever be called?!?!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only if the Browns do it.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can tell that the commentators were very well prepped about the Browns’ incompetence, because they’ve been dropping those statistics seamlessly throughout the broadcast.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They have a well of material so its not that far of a stretch to throw that stuff out there

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’re on pace for a 47 play 246 yard drive. :-) time of possession entire second half.

by gentryholdem on Oct 13, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahah 246 yrds and 15 penalties

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me with the false starts????

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They’re part of a secret plan to dominate time of possession

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wHAT THE HELL IS AN ILLEGAL SNAP?

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

double-clutched

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is f’n ridiculous.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Harrison! Great catch!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys, we’re just trying to keep their defense on the field longer. :-)

by gentryholdem on Oct 13, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a bizarre mix of efficient offense and stupid penalties

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim Brown in the booth!!!! The original 44

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great drive, everyone!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What is the record for most yards on one drive? I think we’re trying to set it.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is amazing. i don’t know what romeo did during the bye week (aside from practicing false starts), but this is freaking great.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 13, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we lead the league in something…….great drive

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we’ve had 10 penalties, times Tony Cornheiser has said something stupidly obvious…. 36 times. He’s worse than Madden ever even thought of being. In fact, Madden has more talent in his left pinkie toe than Cornheiser.

by gentryholdem on Oct 13, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Kornheiser on PTI, but he’s terrible here. I wish the networks would stop trying to entertain people on MNF and just stick to football. We watch to see the games, not listen to people make dumb jokes in the booth.

At least they seem to have cut down on the in-booth guests so far this year. That was the worst.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Madden is unlistenable. Luckily, he’s not doing the SNF game next Sunday.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not?

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He won’t bus cross-country for the third straight week.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kornheiser is ten times better than Madden. He was only one of the three with much positive to say about the Browns all game.

by fwembt on Oct 14, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is everybody tonight. I was expecting more people here — some of the usual aren’t around. Maybe they’re at the game.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh baby! That was sweet

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

kind of surprising that Manning wasn’t able to push him out

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he went for the strip

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No F’n way!!!!

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT WRIGHT!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE GONNA WIN THIS THING!!!!

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OH MY FUCKING GOODNESS ERIC WRIGHT HOLY SHIT

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW. I don’t know what to say. I was just hoping we’d keep it close, I never expected this!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i was starting to get that sinking feeling. now i’m getting that tingly feeling.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I danced the same jig as E-Wright in my living room

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We can’t afford to let up. Remember….. we are Cleveland.

We need to keep piling it on until the final whistle.

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MY GOODNESS, I’ve not been this happy all year.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

21 point lead with 8:07 left, my goodness, Derek Anderson, you are forgiven.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 13, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, forget drugs and alcohol, this does it for me.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure whether I’m more stunned that they went for two or that they got it.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that’s called momentum, baby.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brady, Brady, Brady!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

won’t be hearing that for a while….

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m bet u a dollar there will still be idiots calling talk radio shows tomorrow calling for Brady

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow where did that come from?

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Phillies and Dodgers 5 to 5 top 8 if anyone is interested

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I want to savor every moment of this, thank you.

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, I was just checking that.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First Tampa bitch slaps the Panthers, then the Cowboys lose in wonderful fashion, now this… I swear it’s Christmas early!

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

…and us tribe fans are also pretty happy that the BoSox are sucking the big one

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed. today has been a great day

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Eagles lovin friends will love this weekend

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mel Tucker has called a fantastic game.

by gahnki on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, I guess that will quiet the “which Manning is better” question for a while.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has that been brought up before? I thought that was absurd when Kornheiser said it in pre-game

by cleveland teamer on Oct 13, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN.com had that very question on its front page today. And I’d heard it last week after Peyton played poorly.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tick clock, come on tick.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stairs just homered, Phillies up 7-5. I didn’t even know he was still playing!?

I would love seeing the Red Sox and Dodgers both lose. No Boston, no Manny, no Torre. The media would HATE a Phillies-Rays series.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buckeye Brad I couldnt agree more….Stairs was sorta dead until he landed in Philly

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Amen, brother. Amen.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giants are showing some very Romeo like clock management

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That may do it. Run out the clock with Jamal

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Giants fan here

congrats on the (almost certain) win. The Giants played like crap tonight, but the Browns looked very impressive and certainly deserve a lot of credit. As a Notre Dame fan, this game is a double-whammy for me, I was hoping Anderson would be terrible and Brady Quinn would get his chance, but oh well.

Just wanted to say good luck the rest of the year, the Browns are one of the AFC teams I pull for, so if we were gonna lose, I’m at least glad it was to a team I like.

by cjmulrain on Oct 13, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. We certainly needed this win.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your squad thought they’d just roll over the Brownies. But honestly, I don’t know where this came from.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

this was a trap game, but what worries me is it’s all the things Giants fans were worried about coming into the season that hadn’t shown up yet this year (Eli regressing and throwing dump picks, the D-line not generating the kind of pressure they did in the playoff run, and the secondary getting burned deep and picked apart underneath). I guess we’ll all have to wait a few weeks to see if it’s the Giants coming back to earth or the Browns just playing up to their potential, and obviously I think both of us are rooting for the latter!

by cjmulrain on Oct 13, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The crowd is very enthusiastically chanting “Overrated!”

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta take every chance you can to rub it in, man.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JAMAL LEWIS!!!!!!

by Estonianzulu on Oct 13, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Think Jamal wants that first down?

by woodsmeister on Oct 13, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a powerful run by Lewis. Just what we needed now.

Seriously, where has this team been all year?

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we only had this team to begin the year…they better stick around

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just wanted to record my sheer glee for posterity. This is the best Browns game I’ve ever watched on live television.

by NickFantana on Oct 13, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i remember beating the Cowboys in like ’95 or something that was pretty sweet, too. They had just won the Super Bowl the prior year.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly the best post-Modell era victory.

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tirico, you rag — the Indians were a game away from the World Series LAST YEAR!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he say that? He said they were in the LCS.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said something like “it’s been a long time since this town was worried about LCSes, World Series, and Super Bowls”

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but then he mentioned they were in the LCS last year.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meaning his earlier comment was entirely worthless. He also apparently forgot that the Cavs were in the Finals two years ago.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

455 total yards. 3 TO’s. No punts. Total domination.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Should Pokorny stay out of all game threads from now on?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should all chip in to buy him season tix

by Nat on Oct 13, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m down for that ;)

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 14, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll stay out too.

by rufio on Oct 14, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s definately bad luck (or good luck, since he was at the game).

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d lean towards the good :D

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 14, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never seen RAC smile like that.

This makes me want to watch ESPN

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braylon giving all the credit to DA. That and 5 hour energy

by RD74 on Oct 13, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He is the 5 hour energy designated driver…

Who do you think the unnamed teammate in the commercial is? My money is on k2.

by rufio on Oct 14, 2008 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This may be the best offense performance in the history of our team! No punts, no turnovers, over the best defense in the league.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 13, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, lets hope we are back on track. It doesn’t get any easier next week.

by mgtbfb on Oct 13, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s on the road, but WAS lost to STL yesterday.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 13, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So they’re going to be pissed and looking for redemption. I hope the Browns work this week like they did last week, because whatever they did, it worked.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 13, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only way this win is better in the regular seaon is if it was over the Stillers

by 44Express on Oct 13, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a thing of beauty. I am going to the game next week! LETS GO BROWNS

by Roger Dorn on Oct 13, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dorn:

I’ll be at the Washington game as well. Where you sitting / tail-gating?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 14, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually unsure at the moment. Have family in DC that has retrieved the tickets for me. Never been to FedEx field either, so the tailgaiting I will probably go where my family takes me. As soon as I learn more, I will try and post it here for potential meet-ups

by Roger Dorn on Oct 14, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just got my ticket today: I’m in Section 141. Got a real, real good price on Craigslist. Let me know.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 15, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a win! I’m seriously delirious right now. So stoked.

Just as a side note, we likely get Sean Jones and KWII back next week. WHEE.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 13, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Offense playing like last year + holding people under 20 points consistantly = a lot more games just like this (hopefully)

by mgtbfb on Oct 14, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edwards’s intv with the ESPN guys was really cool.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU!!

As an Eagles fan I have a ton of man love for the browns right now!!!

by Joe_D on Oct 14, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Horse Balls was awesome tonight. That was the kind of offense for which we have all been waiting. Getting K2 back from his “personal issue” is only going to make this better. Finally, a game worth watching.

by fwembt on Oct 14, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey all: just wanted to put up my thoughts on the game… and some of the posts up thread:

1) This is the most underrated defense in football. Seriously, with no impact linebackers at all, it is amazing that they have been able to hold some good teams down. I don’t get all the negative posts to start about the defense. We were 1-3 because of terrible, terrible QB play, dropped passes, and injuries on the OL and WR, not because of the D. They played very good today. I like all the blitzes. We aren’t getting to the QB quickly enough for my liking, and if Eli and his WRs were on, we would have got burned a couple times, but I like the aggressiveness. Sure would be nice if we could get some pressure without bringing someone from the secondary. It seems like our CBs and Safteys have as many QB pressures as our front 7.

2) Way to go DA. I have been on the Quinn bandwagon for awhile now, but I don’t mind DA playing well- Quinn keeps learning, DA’s value to us and to other teams goes up, and we get some wins. Watching this game and then listening to Edwards’ comments after it makes it pretty clear: DA needs everything to be perfect for him to excel. When he has a healthy line that gives him time, a nice bye-week to rest and come up with a very scripted game plan and 2 NFL caliber WRs on the field at once, and not have to worry about pressure, he can play pretty damn well. Now only if he could show some (horse) balls in the face of adversity the next time he throws a pick to start a game or he gets hit in the mouth. I’m still not convinced on his accuracy, or as his ability to be a very good QB, but I’m happy to see him start the next several games.

3) The O-Line was awesome. This was a Giants D-line that has been legendary and even without Strahan and Umenyiora(sp?), they have played very well. But Thomas, Steinbach, etc. held Justin Tuck and Co. in check big time. Except for the penalties (I think the plurality were on Hadnot), they were great. Was Ryan Tucker the missing piece? I think that has a lot to do with it. I also give a lot of credit to Steve Heiden. I saw him open up some good holes for Lewis. Heiden and Wright both picked up some huge blitzes, which was nice to see. A poster at the start of the game suggested that Heiden was a better blocker than Winslow and predicted a benefit from this. I think that’s right, but the key in all this is Stallworth. If Stallworth can be on the field as the #2 WR, We can move around Winslow and find mismatches. Then we can bring in Heiden in 2 TE sets. But when Winslow is forced to split out as a WR all the time, it means we lose his x-factor-ness AND weaken the blocken schemes.

4) DBs. They looked great. I really like McDonald and Wright. I think Cousin could be ok as a third corner, but I sure wish we still had Holly. Adams has been serviceable and Pool looks like a budding solid player. When Jones comes back, maybe Adams can take time away from Sorensen and Cousin and I’ll feel better about the depth. It has been scaring me since Holly’s injury, but somehow we have survived it so far.

That’s all for now. GO BROWNS!!!

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 14, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey rufio… i had to watch the game at a bar (no cable, by choice) but YOU KNOW i’m the official driver of the McDonald/Wright bandwagon bus…

by kwoog on Oct 14, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Had to tape it, so I am chiming in late.

Our starting 4 in the secondary are GOOD. The short corner I should have been questioning in the preseason was Cousin. I still think we could use a 6’ corner who can be in our top 3, but it won’t matter if we let the opposing team get their #1 WR on our 3rd, 4th, 5th CB and get 5’9" vs 6’5" matchups in the endzone. I swear Plax caught a pass against Daniels. Seriously?

You deserve props for being on the McDonald bandwagon from the beginning. I still think Wright is better, but McDonald is clearly playing at a starter’s level.

by rufio on Oct 14, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I owe one of you a major apology. (I can’t remember which). I really didn’t think McDonald and Wright were up to the task but last night they proved me wrong. Great game for those two and great call to whichever of you two it was that said they could do it.

by fwembt on Oct 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So where are all those Giants fans who were predicting Jacobs to run all over us?

by rufio on Oct 14, 2008 2:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, they did run all over us. It just didn’t matter.

by fwembt on Oct 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They ran all over us when they needed to be throwing. Rogers was gassed late and they were running draws plays for a lot of yardage with him on the sideline. When the game was tight, I thought we did a nice job against the run

by Roger Dorn on Oct 15, 2008 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Na, I saw them running all over us even before that.

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 15, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah yinz can thank me for reverse-jinxing lewis last night

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
J. Lewis 21 88 1 13

4.2 YPC

so I guess the nail’s not in the coffin just yet, oh well

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 14, 2008 6:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was so nice to read through these threads after a win like that. Wow, what a game. I just hope that this brings about some much needed cohesion on offense, not to mention a little confidence for once. When Edwards and Anderson were celebrating in the endzone after that 4th quarter score, all “Tecmo Bowl” style, I had one solitary tear stream down my face (like an Indian seeing someone litter). All in all, I’m still reeling right now. Go Browns!

by jill29 on Oct 14, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fun fact:

The score capped an 87-yard drive which was bogged down by five Cleveland penalties. In all, the Browns went 117 yards on the drive.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 14, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just dropping by to congratulate you on your win.

The Browns obviously wanted the game a lot more than we did. Except for all the false starts you played the perfect game. We definitely got spanked. good luck with the rest of your year.

by giant fan since 57 on Oct 14, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for being classy. By and large, I like Giants fans.

by NickFantana on Oct 15, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Rexx the Ravens fan could learn a lesson from this guy.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 15, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

admittedly, it’s a lot easier to be classy to a non-rival. i mean, the nfc east couldn’t have less to do with us, ultimately…

but yes, rexx is a vision-clouded homer of epic proportions.

by kwoog on Oct 15, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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