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Cleveland Browns vs. Washington Redskins - Official Game Thread

Cleveland Browns at Washington Redskins, Oct 19, 2008 4:15 PM EDT


CLEVELAND BROWNS (2-3) WEEK 7 WASHINGTON REDSKINS (4-2)
VS.
Date: October 19, 2008 Location: Landover, ML
Time: 4:30 p.m. ET
Stadium: FedEx Field
TV: CBS
Favorite: Redskins by
Radio: WMMS, 100.7 FM Over/Under: 42
SBN Coverage: Hogs Haven Announcers
Ian Eagle & Solomon Wilcots (YAY!)

Suddenly, things are looking a lot brighter for the Browns. We are coming off a well-played win over the defending Super Bowl Champions last week, as both Ryan Tucker and Donte Stallworth showed how important they were to the team. This week, we're getting Sean Jones and Kellen Winslow back. At the same time we're becoming the football team we were supposed to be, a good team like the Redskins is seeing all of their running backs and members of the secondary getting wounded.

With the injury factor benefiting the Browns for once, will that overcome our road difficulties? Let's kick off this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...

OFFENSE

Category Browns Redskins
Points Scored 16.2 (26th) 21.0 (19th)
Passing 161.0 (26th) 201.7 (17th)
Rushing 98.4 (23rd) 152.3 (3rd)
Total Offense (yards) 259.4 (28th) 354.0 (7th)

DEFENSE

Category Browns Redskins
Points Scored 18.4 (8th) 19.5 (10th)
Passing 188.0 (11th) 202.0 (13th)
Rushing 137.0 (25th) 83.8 (6th)
Total Defense (yards) 325.0 (17th) 285.8 (8th)

 

 

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Quarterback

When Derek Anderson is at the top of his game, he can match up with almost any quarterback in the NFL. After last week's performance, I have faith that he can reproduce that effort at home. On the road, I'm still not sold on him. Jason Campbell, on the other hand, has been exactly the type of quarterback the Redskins needed. He's thrown six touchdowns and no interceptions, with plenty of his throws coming in the clutch.

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Running Back

When healthy, the Redskins would get the edge here due to both talent and depth. Clinton Portis, probably the league's most consistent rusher the past several seasons, is having another terrific season. Even in last week's loss to the Rams, he failed to disappoint. His hip injury shouldn't slow him down too much this week, but it adds to the chances that we'll see a "slow" Shaun Alexander in the game. Jamal Lewis will be tested against the league's sixth-best run defense, and much of his success will depend on Anderson getting things going early on. Getting Jerome Harrison involved for the third straight game is key as well, and this time I'd actually like to see Jason Wright get a screen pass sprinkled in to him.

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Receiver

As opposed to the past, the Redskins have gotten better overall production from their receivers this season. Santana Moss, Chris Cooley, and Antwan Randle El have combined for a pretty solid starting unit. Each of them have at least 300 yards receiving and a touchdown, but after that, there are no viable options. If the Browns' starting secondary continues to match up well, we won't have to worry about our lack of depth at nickel back. On the other side, Braylon Edwards appeared to be "back" last week, Donte Stallworth's presence alone appeared to benefit everybody else, and Kellen Winslow should be back. What else could you ask for (technically, you could ask for Jurevicius back).

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Offensive Line

The Giants' defensive line is meant to wreck havoc on everybody -- no exceptions. That changed last week with an offensive line that included Ryan Tucker at right tackle for the first time this season. The only issue that needs to be fixed is the amount of penalties, but if we have trouble at home, chances are we'll have trouble on the road. The Redskins don't have a lot of holes on the offensive line, but they are a little bit on the downside right now. Offensive guard Pete Kendall is nursing a knee injury but is expected to play and left tackle Chris Samuels will play with an ankle injury. The Redskins are asking a lot to hope both of those guys play at the top of their game, which gives Cleveland the edge. Also, starting right tackle Jon Jansen is being benched.

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Defensive Line

With Shaun Smith out again, it's going to be tough for our defensive line to go up against Portis. The Giants ran the draw play very well against us last week, and a major reason for that was because Shaun Rogers cannot play every series (in order to keep him fresh). The Redskins are built on putting together long drives, and that will fatigue our defensive line. None of the Redskins have individually put up flashy stats, but Andre Carter is the man the team has to keep contained. Jason Taylor is expected to play, and while he's not in his prime, he provides extra leadership to get the unit fired up in certain situations.

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Linebacker

It's at the point where the only two linebackers worth watching on the Browns are D'Qwell Jackson and Alex Hall. The other guys could be taken off the field without substitution and still produce the same results. London Fletcher is a heck of a linebacker for the Redskins though, and the type of player I'd love to have on the Browns. Washington's linebackers love to hit hard to try and jar the football loose, so ball security will be extra important for Jamal Lewis and any of our receivers catching quick passes over the middle.

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Secondary

The Browns' secondary has grown from potentially laughable to extremely respectable, as I am giving them the "edge" for the first time this season. Sean Jones will be returning to a unit that has played very well even without him, meaning moving a guy like Mike Adams down on the depth chart can only improve our depth. More than anything, I look for Jones to have a big impact on safety blitzes, taking advantage of the Redskins' shakiness on the offensive line right now. The Redskins see all of their cornerbacks banged up right now, and that cannot be good news against a Browns aerial attack with a lot of potential again.

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Special Teams

It's been so long since Joshua Cribbs has had a game-changing return. The defense has played well this year and the offense "came back" last week, so will this be the week that Cribbs breaks one? The Redskins don't have a prolific kick returner, but the part of special teams that really hurts them is at the punter position. After cutting Derrick Frost in the offseason, Durant Brooks has only averaged a meager 39.6 yards per boot.


FINAL PREDICTION:
Cleveland Browns 24, Washington Redskins 21.
Initially after our win over the Giants, I was still ready to pick the Redskins to beat us due to being on the road. As the week has gone by though, the X-factors have changed. The Browns are getting a full complement of healthy players back again, while the Redskins are hoping all of their injuries in the secondary don't haunt them this week. It won't haunt them at first as Anderson will get off to a slow start on the road again, but halftime adjustments of taking more chances down the field will make the difference in a close game.

This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 7 as they battle the Washington Redskins. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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ARF ARF ARF LETS GO BROWNS.

I’m most interested in seeing how well our defense plays initially; I agree that it might take the offense some time to get going in a hostile environment against an exceptional defense.

Remember, this is a Washington team that handled Dallas in every facet of the game two weeks ago. (Although Dallas has looked terrible against Arizona and St. Louis)

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 19, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cannot believe that Dallas is getting spanked around by St. Louis. I know they’re injured, but it’s the Rams!! Too bad we didn’t play them now instead of in week 1.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After today’s CLE/WAS game, hopefully the Redskins are saying the opposite thing about us.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday Inactives

Browns inactives: QB Ken Dorsey (3rd), SS Mike Adams, SS Hamza Abdullah, LB Beau Bell, G Ryan Tucker, G Scott Young, TE Martin Rucker , DE Shaun Smith.

Redskins inactives: QB Colt Brennan (3rd), WR Malcolm Kelly, CB Shawn Springs, RB Ladell Betts, G Jason Fabini, T Chad Rinehart, DE Erasmus James, DE Rob Jackson.

My Toughts: Wow, I’m surprised to see Ryan Tucker out, and I didn’t expect to see Mike Adams out either. Kellen Winslow is active, but Steve Heiden may start with Winslow seeing action in certain situations. Kevin Shaffer is back and will start at right tackle.

The Redskins will be without the players they were expected to be without.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Adams and Abdullah out? You might think one in place of the other, but both?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has to be a first…FOX cuts away from the Dallas game because DALLAS is the team that is losing so bad…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can’t wait to hear TO’s comments after the game.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tears would be a nice touch.

Love to hear him cry one week for his QB and then blast him later for not getting him the ball. Priceless!

Oh The People You Meet When Your Out of Ammo.........

by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bengals......war..... What are they good for?

I was hoping the Bengals could help us out. Close for a while but the Stillers have pulled away.

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK who do we get today?

Good DA or evil DA? Speak up now…don’t be shy

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Flashes of good DA on the first drive, a bland DA the rest of the half. Then, good DA in the second half.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three cheers for Ian Eagle announcing this game.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh, they waited long enough to call that obvious block in the back call.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who’s this guy and why is he kicking the ball? I didn’t see him last week.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Defensive holding on a run?

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rock Cartwright. good name.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is how Washington plays — long, methodical drives. This was my concern, which will wear down our d-line.

Nice read by Leon Williams on the screen there…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play for the D

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Time for the D to stiffen.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really easy Viagra joke, but I wont make it

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PUNT! Good job by the D on that drive

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Indeed, that’s how we get by.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good break on the punt

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice first down run by Jamal.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this early POWER by Jamal Lewis.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he is just bulldozing thus far. If he keeps it up, it’ll set up the passing game nicely

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stallworth sighting

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too many people in the box to run there.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And the game of field position begins…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that drive didn’t inspire confidence

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Side note: I am kicking ass in the DBN fantasy football league again today.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right! I am so ready for a big turnover for 6

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet, a big penalty…. on someone else!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our D isn’t looking terrible so far, which is more than I could’ve asked to start the game.

by Lyon25 on Oct 19, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

our D is above average

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

8th in the league in points, which i think is a better barometer than yards.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

points and W’s are all I care about from our D

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want some more sideline passes from Jason Campbell. For whatever reason, he is really telegraphing those throws today (albeit just on two attempts).

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PUNT! Go D Go!

Seeing improvement every week with this unit

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great field position — let’s do something with it.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How has the offense looked thus far?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uninspiring. Though Lewis is running well

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9 plays for 21 yards

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typical road mediocrity, but Lewis is running with power again.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Running …good. Passing…below standards

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t know what’s happened to our Special Teams, but Cribbs hasn’t had a real good return all year. Blocking seems to be lacking

by Lyon25 on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lennie Friedman, Chaun Thompson, and Kris Griffin are all gone this year. Could be a factor.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also high ankle sprain isn’t something you usually recover from mid season without a BUNCH of time off. Leigh Bodden had one a few years back and was clearly not healthy till the next year.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Field Po…………Lets GO!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DA is off on the little dump passes

by Lyon25 on Oct 19, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is this purely bad DA being bad DA (no tv)?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Winslow turned inside and was open but DA threw thought he would go outside. Not sure who was at fault there.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMMIT. C’mon, DA.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sounds like he is just missing his targets (radio).

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for free on the internet, or the official website?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFL.com Field pass. 9.95 a month

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You get Doug D and Jim Donnovan, too. It could only be better if drunk Kosar was in the booth with them.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright that was terrible. Our D needs to keep playing well.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson and Winslow’s chemistry just isn’t there.

You’d almost rather see Anderson-to-Heiden.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Heiden = victory

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris, I don’t think LenDale White and Waltzing Mwelde Moore are going to combine for 60+ points every week for you, but you are lighting up the scoreboard this week. Congrats.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7-0 :D

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In true Woody Paige fashion, I would like to point out strength of schedule. (Imagine that I wrote something kind of funny on a small blackboard behind me).

I am leading the league in points scored.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent punt. Field position in our favor again.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dudes – does anyone have any feeds for this? Chicago isn’t covering this game.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I use the NFL.com Field Pass to hear the radio broadcast

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Er, free* feeds

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its 10 bucks! A Month!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I know, I’m a cheapass, I try to luck out with local coverage if I can.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason, neither time slot is getting two games here in Chicago…

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know – what are you doing? gameday’ing?

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year I had a couple of free internet feeds that got shut down eventually

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, gameday. trying to get up the nerve to go to the obnoxious yuppie bar across the street…

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh. Just wear as much brownies gear as possible, you’ll get a tv all to yourself.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha, it’s more the deafening level of the sound, crappy food and terrible beer selection.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.brownsbacker.com/online.htm

I don’t have a Windows machine, so I can’t verify if they ever work.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

piss, I’m using mac too!

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rocking the mac as well here…

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have heard there is a way to do sopcast for the Mac but it sounds really complicated and I don’t really want to mess up any of my worthless art.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me as well. Should tell Apple they’re missing a marketing opportunity. “Mac-the computer of choice for Brown’s fans.”

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously – who would’ve guessed so many browns fans are whole-foods-going, mac-using grad-students?

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t even afford Whole-foods

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one can.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

few can these days.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it time for C.H.U.D. to get creative again?

(I’m just “watching” on the Internet.)

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think its important that we get up on these guys early Lets go already!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great coverage by McDonald over the middle.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Secondary is so much better than the first 2 weeks

3 and out!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love having dangerous, athletic corners.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing Tressel-ball right now, which is not a bad thing.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is when you play USC, evidently.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also when you play without Beanie Wells when you are used to having a Beanie Wells.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tressel ball won a championship. I think any Browns fan would take that.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C.H.U.D. & Co.: get some points!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay! A second-down run for almost nothing!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah, dropsie Braylon is back.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not discouraged by the first quarter, because I expected us to show some road woes early. I’m pleased overall with how our defense has played.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0 points = D doing more than its share.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 for 8? one for eight? ONE FOR EIGHT?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1 for 8…for 6 yards

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on! This field position and penalty free ball can’t last if we don’t take advantage!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brandon McDonald and the D generally looks very good.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DA, Kevin Shaffer and the offense generally looks very bad.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has there been much motion in our offense? Formation shifts?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all right, screw this, our season is on the line. crappy Lakeview “sports” bar, here i come. go browns!

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do it. Wear like a backwards visor or something and bring a lotto ticket to scratch.

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you follow the link from there, it appears to be working.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mine just had some cartoon sports ball graphics come up, and it says “Off Air”

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we’re at a commercial break – danke

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

danke mucho sir

by joeee on Oct 19, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

holy shit, you’re my favorite person in the world right now, exposition!

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sir, I award you the Axe of Awesomeness

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff. Thanks!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that an end around to a backup TE? I agree with Eagle about maybe throwing it, great job by Williams again.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BANG! Wimbley with a play for once.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our mistake on offense so far partially has to lie with Chud. With the Redskins committing so much to the run defense early on and the secondary being a little thin, we were begging for a playaction deep pass earlier on.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CVribbs!

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mixing it up with Cribbs in shotgun, I like it.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we call that the WildCribbs?

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still prefer the flash package.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flashdance package?

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamal can still keep those legs moving and pick up some YAC.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dropise Edwards strikes again

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit Edwards — catch the ball!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like putting Wright in motion there, and I like following Kosar’s advice to throw to the outside slant on the double slant.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clarification:

Like the call by Chud, DA and Braylon need to execute. I would throw to Braylon on a slant on 3rd and 2 against pretty much anyone.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God…I…I don’t even know. The Browns are blowing my mind this year.

by DrewskiC on Oct 19, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustration and this team go hand i n hand

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Redskins are a good defense, but we don’t seem to be in any sort of rhythm at all.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously, exposition, you just saved me a bar tab for crappy food/beer, instead of watching this in the comfort of my own home. if you’re ever in chicago, you’ve got a pint or 6 free on me.

now let’s see some freaking offense.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh, and i’m going fullscreen, so have a good thread, guys.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the look better on the smaller size.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, maybe you’re right.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The suckitude is too much.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shit, Corey Williams out with injury.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, really? Was that a radio update by Donovan? I didn’t hear it on CBS.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was the guy on the CBS internet broadcast, said it was a shoulder, questionable return. I am not hearing things, am I?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they said it coming back from commercial.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard it, too.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love Shaun Rogers.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and Alex Hall, 4th down baby!

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Savage’s best idea

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alex Hall is da man

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BANG! Another stop on third down by the Browns. I wonder if Rock Cartwright being in the game was indicative of anything regarding Portis’ status?

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More about Betts’ being out, I think

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, but Portis is still a workhorse and was out for two plays pretty early on.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they were splitting his carries pretty well. Can his fantasy owner speak on this?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need something more than a run up the middle Chud!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DA and Winslow are not in sync today.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is DA in sync with anyone today?

by DrewskiC on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, DA and Winslow has as much in synch as Madonna and Guy Ritchie right now

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Third down here, we need to call a play where Heiden catches the ball over the middle.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t look as if he was even in the game.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone in the stadium knew that would be a run — pretty good to get five.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The DE was offsides.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braylon!!! WTF!

I knew that ball was going to him when he went in motion and he was still open.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear to God I’m gonna jump edwards and spray adhesive on his damn hands

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, Edwards need to stop dropping passes. This is ridiculous.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, free yards and 1st downs.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put in Heiden! Throw it to Stallworth1 Do SOMETHING resembling ANYTHING

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerome Harrison?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great minds think alike!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screen pass to Harrison.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TO taken at 4:20. Sweet.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Edwards needs to get his head out of his ass. Catch the damn ball. Ohhh, wait, it’s Crenell and Andersons fault. Never mind!

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know if anyone blamed Crennel for the offense.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

according to some of the callers I’ve heard on WTAM and WKNR Crennel and/or Anderson are to blame for everything… the Browns poor start, the bad offense, the bailout, global warming, gas prices, tooth decay, Paris Hiltons signing career, whenever it rains on the weekend when you have plans………….

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, your first problem is taking anything said by radio callers seriously.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4:20 is plenty of time to stick with the run, at least until we get into their territory. be smart, chud.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK Time out. Cook us up a winning play!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On a day full of morning blowouts, at least this is a competitive game, score-wise :p

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, completely opposite last week’s games.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great outing for the defense. If they keep it up and we could just get some consistancy on offense we would be in great shape.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap, did you see Cribbs’ block on that?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he’s awesome.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JT and Jam Daddy!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice run on that one. Lewis is in synch, at least

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice way to counter all the pressure up the middle — a pitch “crack toss” to the outside.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Argh…our receivers keep getting a step down field! We will hit one of these.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to go vertical on these mofo’s

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what did he miss his target by there, 20 yards?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we are trying to go deep, even if it isn’t connecting. I truly believe it is important to the offense.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

These 2nd-down runs suck.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow. Can the Oline and QB please execute?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerome Harrison IS active for this game, correct?

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man, trying to be calm… trying to be calm… but i’d really like to know how many games have ha a 3-14 start from a qb in the last 5 years…

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of them from Chris Redman, Alex Smith, Joey Harrington, 40+ Vinnie Testaverde…

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith,

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really comforting me much

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Ryan Leaf was at least decent on the field and that it was his crazy roid rage off the field that did him in. Was he terrible on the field too?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive me, I am a baby.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

During his brief career in the NFL, Leaf appeared in 25 games and made 21 starts. He completed 315 of 655 passes for 3,666 yards, with 14 touchdowns and 36 interceptions.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you were a defensive coordinator, would you ever NOT blitz DA? He’s just not showing any ability to beat it. Not sure what’s up with Winslow, but he was our greatest weapon on that last year, and he’s vanished today too.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like evil DA is playing today. 26 yards……ugh!

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing is that the defense is at least playing well enough that one big play for us changes this whole game.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or one big play against us…

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

w/out both smiths and williams, this D cannot keep it up.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can keep them to 3 here, I would be happy.

If the O was scoring, blitzes with zone behind could yield some big plays, but I don’t trust it to hold Washington to under 10 points that way.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but i’m just afraid of them running all over us. and if you bring a safety in the wrong place, then you give up 25+ (like on the early portis run this drive)

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be a lot better to try with say 14+ points in the first half and the confidence that you will score at least that much in the 2nd.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn we’re lucky, he was wide open.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Rogers should really have to count as 2-3 defensive players.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t like Cousins.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hate DA so friggin much

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by Juannieboy on Oct 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll forgive the penalty if he continues this type of play.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, me too. he saves more than 3 by himself.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid penalty.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, don’t be stupid and not up the QB. The clock might have run out without the penalty.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still not a horrible hole to be in. We are lucky to not be down more. Can good DA please stand up?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We are very lucky not to be down at all.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO GOOD!!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOOOOOOOO No good!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Suck that, Washington Racially Insensitive Names!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Tribe!

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

As Cleveland fans, that’s kinda like throwing stones from the front porch of our glass house.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in Cali and am an Angel fan, so I dodge that particular hypocrisy. I have others though, I’m sure.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah kind of weird how they still get away with that. Indians, maybe, Fighting Irish, more likely, Vikings, whatever….Redskins???

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweeeeet. they get the ball?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s human; about 3 of them.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-0

bout as bad as the Bengal game.

by orangemocha on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This game is setting football back further than that Auburn/Miss. St. travesty.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How dare you question the SECs complete and total dominance of college football in every aspect!

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha — I wonder what they think about the Big 12 this year.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way, first BCS standings were just released. Texas, Alabama, Penn St. are 1-2-3. Buckeyes are #9, three one loss teams are ahead of them.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say no way OSU gets back in the title race without everyone in the SEC and Big 12 having 2 losses. One team between those and USC could have one loss (and play as the 1st place team). And the Buckeyes have to run the table.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe. A win against Penn St. would be a pretty big bump. Crazier things have happened, and there are a lot of games to be played. Besides, I’d be happy with the Rose Bowl.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris, when did the scoring for TMs change in the fantasy league?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing was changed — what is the specific category in question for TM?

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Points scored. I thought the categories included different numbers. Probably makes sense though because one of the new #s is 2 points allowed, which the defense souldn’t really allow.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who will score more today

Red Sox/Rays or Browns/Redskins?

by orangemocha on Oct 19, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Andra Davis,

Control your gap.

-Rufio

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for listening, Andra.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, we need to finally take advantage of this good field position.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really good field position.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was until the penalty.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dinkins sighting

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilcots is right, Chud’s doing everything he can to get DA in rhythm

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So when do we start chanting for Brady?

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When Anderson throws a pick.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s about the only thing he hasn’t done wrong yet.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

underthrown by 20 yards, regardless

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

think about that… twenty.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think it was that much on the deep ball to Edwards? I would say more like 10. I would much rather put it high with Edwards reacting to it and the DB desperately trying to catch up (not looking at the ball).

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 short of braylon, should have led him by ten

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4/16 for 21 yds.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If reduction of fractions were allowed, Anderson is only 1/4 for about 5 yards.

Unfortunately, that’s now allowed :-(

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Telling stat of the day, the worst team in my fantasy league still has Anderson starting. Go figure!

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice tackle D’Qwell. Good Lord.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just looked at the NFL.com drive chart, only one trip inside the red zone the whole game for either team!

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

make that twice

by Riverboat Sam on Oct 19, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

make that two now.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they keep them out of the endzone again, then I will officially become a huge fan of this defense and believe we can draft offense next year.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damintt.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, this doesnt bode well

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you told me before the game that we wouldn’t give up a point until the third quarter, I’d be thrilled.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, but what if I told you we wouldn’t score ourselves until at least the 3rd?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way the offense is playing that TD should seal it for Washington. Game and season over unless D.A. gets his head out of his ass or we make a change

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Historically (referring to last year), our offense would only start clicking on the road once we were playing from behind. Let’s see if that same, wacky mentality kicks in on the next drive.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, as much talent as I know DA has, this “clicking” “rythm” thing only works if you can actually get in sync a majority of the time. He’s way too inconsistent and appears to be easily rattled. Really starting to wonder about the longterm ramifications.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somebody needs to go over to the sideline and punch DA in the face to wake him up.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put Cribbs back at QB do something

run up the middle, run middle, bad pass is not working.

by orangemocha on Oct 19, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Run up the middle, run outside, however, is getting us first downs here.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a side note, I have the Redskins defense for my fantasy team. Rufio, I’m trying to stay ahead of you.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m 1/2 game ahead in the division.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Cribbs is okay…

This remains a must-score drive, as the Redskins are a hard team to stop on offense if they keep momentum.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Green Bay shoving it down Indy’s throat. Manning looks horrid.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finally a credible first down.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Edwards caught the ball!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright Braylon.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BEAST! JAMAL LEWIS! HIGHLIGHT REEL HURDLE!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Give the man the ball.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow — that’s what we need. Nice hurdle!

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LEWIS! The man will not be stopped

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here’s a stat for you, with 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter of the Houston-Detroit game:

MATT SCHAUB
24-27 for 245 yards and 2 TDs

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those are Colt McCoy numbers.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but the defense he is facing is worse than Mizzou’s.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, he’s put up 300+ in each of his last two games.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So..if you hit Braylon really, really hard, he catches the ball?

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I keep telling my friends, if before the game the Browns lined up our two hardest hitters in front of DA & Edwards and had them take huge shots, we’d be 16—0 barring injuring.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Field goal unit

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Redskins didn’t even give an effort to block it. They were completely holding back in case of a fake.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, I’ll take the 3 pts though. At least we got in the red zone, lol.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, coulda gone better but at least we’re on the board

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we can at least be comforted that if we keep the ‘Skins out of the end zone, we’ll at least be only one possession down.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a joke this team is. Just pissed away another chance due to terrible decision making. I was never a Quinn guy and wanted Anderson in there until today.

Get him out he is a bum.

If we lose this game the season is over. Period, end of story. Everyone will be fired and we will be starting over yet again and I’m not dealing with that shit again.

We lose today and we have to go 8 – 2 the rest of the way to even have a chance to make the playoffs and that won’t happen.

Get this retard out of the game and give Quinn a chance he can’t do any worse.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hehe, tell us what you really think? Although I don’t think DA is a bum, I’m starting to agree. This is pathetic.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think savage is safe, otherwise i totally agree

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

People in the front 7 of a 3-4 need to be able to get off of blocks.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wimbley just went inside and got close to the QB!

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s official, our defense is officially tired. They’re running out of gas.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uggg, man, I was a bit harsh I think but he needs to sit. It’s Boeckman all over again. Big arm, tries hard but doesn’t have it in the decision making department to get it done.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, TB has had far more success. Keep in mind TB has had some tough breaks. In the LSU game Robinskie drops a perfect ball in the endzone. Buckeyes get a blocked FG and the game got away from them.

TB had to play without Beanie in a QB rotation and had two huge passes called back on penalties.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Shaun Alexander still sucks

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Talk about a quick drop off. I’ts like he went from MVP to bum overnight 2 years ago.

He carried my fantasy teams for years. He was my #1 pick 3 years in a row.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey’s back, that’s good news.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and doing positive things for the defense.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Corey Williams would’ve stopped the play regardless there, but it is funny that it was Shaun Alexander who was in on the carry.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you may be right, they have to be getting tired and discouraged. Great game by the D and especially Rodgers might be for nothing.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Need a turnover, some kind of momentum shift quick.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

still sporting that avatar Jay gave you?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3rd-and-11 here, need a big stop!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there we go!

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big enough for me.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just in, Matt Schaub threw an incomplete pass.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I’ve never seen Wimbley that deep in coverage.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense is playing their hearts out.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Be a real shame to waste that kind of effort

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wimbley made a play. Beware locust swarms

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW, my mistake for not realizing the Redskins had signed Ryan Plackemeier as their punter during the week (I referenced Durant Brooks in the game preview).

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dogs and cats will soon be getting along

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Historically, this is the part where Anderson throws a pick and the game gets away from us. Srry Chris, had to point that out on the historical thing you mentioned earlier. :-)

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets hope history doesn’t repeat

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come ON Edwards…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DARNIT, Calvin Johnson sitting on my fantasy team bench goes 96 yards for a TD. Damn you fantasy team!

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me? Delay of game?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On-field scuffle, too.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good, at least someone cares about stupid penalties.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t fighting with ’bray wake Anderson up during the CIN game?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am officially in for the pregame beating up of Edwards and Anderson.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes DA, its Vickers fault. This is getting hard to watch

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quinn would have just looked at the ball and it automatically would have been snapped to him and flown to the endzone for a TD.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The force is strong with that one.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you get a personal foul for taunting your own team?

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anderson’s stats are improving — fractionally now 1/4 for 10 yards.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make that like 8. His QB rating is like negative I think though.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

get him out now

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the 3rd down was the O-line’s fault

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was supposed to look like the O line did a bad job, it was a screen.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just great, to rub it in Detroit went for 2 and C Johnson scored again.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you deserve that. How are you sitting C Johnson to begin with? And now, after Roy Williams got shipped he is the only freak WR on that team.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya, you’re right.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m still gonna win though. :-)

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, really a shame that final pass was tipped. On replay, the play was a screen to Stallworth, and he had three-four blockers out in front of him with only one defender in his way for a first down at least. Couldn’t tell beyond that, but I’d imagine he could’ve had a lot more.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whole offense has been a shame

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And so it begins

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sean Jones may not be 100%, otherwise there is no excuse for that bad of an angle.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well now they will just run it down our throats for the clinching TD

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s hope Zorn and company decide to call a sideline pass near the first down marker again. We’ve been close to taking a few of those today.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston working hard to try to make the Detroit game close. Schaub is on fire and they’re running every down.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cousin….dude.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats it

Game…and season officially OVER

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shut up man, there are still plenty of games left to play.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And heeeeeeeere come the pretzels…

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Simpsons ref

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOr the Love of Christ Almighty can someone LEARN TO TACKLE

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Terry Cousin = Only Defensive Goat

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets draft 2 dbs.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get Holly back healthy next year and focus on the LB’ers ;)

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, I forgot about him. Its only an ACL, right?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’d think a guy who’s been in the league as longg as him would-oh, I dunno- know HOW TO FUCKING TACKLE

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

side note:

I am glad we passed on Deltha O’Neal after he got absolutely torched against SD.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are going to be mad at me, but you know who I started over Calvin Johnson in my fantasy league? Santana Moss.

My hats off to their defense, though, I have newfound respect for our D.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Gerard LAWSON showing some spark on that kick return. I didn’t even know he was still on our roster…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice return! If we can score in a hurry….

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lawson made a nice tackle earlier on a Randle-El return, too.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harrison sighting. Finally.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NOW they choose to bring him out?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No matter what happens, Crennel better not have the mentality to punt on this drive.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Joe Flacco line is a bitter pill to swallow. I think it’s a fluke, but with our luck lately…

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know there is time left, but it still drives me nuts not to see the hurry up here.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Lewis hurt?

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently not.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play, DA! Showing scramble ability

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braylon. Dropped.. the ball…AGAIN

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at this point I hope he doesn’t have a Vince Young-type breakdown.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN! thought he was gonna take it to the house

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, HURRY.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From now on, every practice, every 1st quarter should start with the mentality that we are behind and need to be up-tempo, quick, and get in the endzone. It works.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Going backwards — nice.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a dump pass to Ali. really. REALLY.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I swear to God if he kicks the field goal here I will WALK to Cleveland from TX and punch RAC in the nose.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uggg, technically it makes it a 1 score game. But ya.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A FG makes it only 8 points.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romeo if you kick a 3 I will kill your dog

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wright was covered.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why are we throwing to Wright and Ali here?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

of course you kick it

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand why Lewis wasnt given the ball after 1st down

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you see the first down play?

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, but throwing wasnt gonna work

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unreal. he can’t even go for it at the right times. i’m seriously done w/ this coach and the worst qb in football.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those first and second down calls were awful.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, definitely.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry, but what did we go for it? A FG makes in a one posession game.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We needed the points

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we needed 3 points.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, because we’ve totally shown the ability to score TDs easily

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get a FG, we only need one.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington looks like they know the snap count every down.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TURNOVER!!!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One more chance?

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd chance!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job, e. wright. but i’m still done w/ this fucking coach and this fucking asshole at qb.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FG was actually the right call there. Amazing this guy can’t even get it right

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Brad, you said you’d kill his dog if he kicked it. He goes for it and you criticize the decision. :-)

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No I did not — that was someone else.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please, PLEASE give us a break here!!!!!!!!!!

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He had it, and Eric Wright learned from his own fumble.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This definitely looks like Browns football. Not enough time to muster a TD drive after this drive. We need a TD now, and a field goal later.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RAC said it best, people would criticize him if he did, criticize him if he didn’t.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no, this is bs. if he had gone for it in the earlier games, no one woudl have questioned him. if he had gone for the kick and it had been blocked, no one have questioned it. there are such things as the “right call” and the “wrong call.”

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he shouldn’t worry about what the fans think, anyways.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goo Braylon is back. he catches when he gets hit

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, another instance where Edwards makes the tough catch instead of the easy one.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great catch, Braylon.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I stand by going for the TD. Down by 8, but we hadn’t put another drive together all day, we weren’t going back. And maybe you get lucky on a turnover or a 3 and out with them pinned deep.

by exposition on Oct 19, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, get in the damn end zone instead of the inch line already!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PUT...IT..IN!!!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love that playcall with Harrison in motion.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chud, did you not watch the last series?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would have been nice to run a counter there after showing them that same exact play before.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can somebody please explain why they are running to the right at the goal line instead of behind Thomas and Steinbach?

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would love to get an answer on this. I’d understand if Tucker was there, but they really seemed to be running off the weakest part of our line. Not to mention how telegraphed those plays were.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is just crazy. The endzone is kryptonite. Lex Luther is running our offense.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, Lex is a genius

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YES

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Love the play action, don’t know what took so long.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play call — it only took 8 tries.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus…more goats of the week with goal line packages. At least we’re still in it, barely. Time for 2.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Depends on which D.A. steps on the field for the last drive….

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You gotta blame Chud and whoever was responsible for getting to the 2nd level. The line did their job by cutting the entire Dline on that play but there were 3 or 4 LBs/DBs on Lewis there.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how many timeouts left, 2?

by Riverboat Sam on Oct 19, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DOUBLE FUCK YES

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i feel that the Browns are just raising our hopes before they dash them again

by VABrownsFan on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Three point game! Woo…come on Browns. Big decision now, onside attempt or rely on the defense? I honestly don’t have faith in our WORN DOWN defense.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ONSIDE PLEASE! ONSIDE PLEASE!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

kick it away

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 6:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We had them deep earlier, knowing they’d run, and Portis busted an easy 20+ yarder before fumbling. Doubt he’d fumble again.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we know they’re running. 8 in the box, man-man outside. onside kick works, like, less than 10% of the time.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think DA was bad, should have watched the Indy game.

Manning:

16-34 for 160 yards, 2 INTs, both returned for touchdowns. GB 34-7.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t auto-tune, Ustream!

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOO

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bye, bye Ustream.

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t anyone monitoring this thing

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtf HAPPENED?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they scheduled to switch the channel on their TV. I wonder if anyone is actually at the TV.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we were gonna do that, we should’ve at least squibbed the darn ball.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make tackles, if they get upfield more than 5 yards go for the ball

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, 3rd down here. This is the do-or-die for our defense.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No TOs either. This is the game

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DE-FENSE…DE-FENSE…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I expect a rollout option by Campbell, BTW

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they get the 1st we need to go after the ball on the tackle, bigtime.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should have saved their last timeout until AFTER the 2-min. warning. Teams do this all the time. The would save about 20 seconds that way.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Never mind, I was wrong. The clock stops on the change of possesion.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!

I am more stunned by the Redskins not getting a first down than I am anything else in this game.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing is more stunning than the ineptitude by our qb.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the road, it’s not too stunning for me.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not an excuse for being so wild. he beat himself, it wasn’t b/c of the D of the Redskins.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what is the deal with him not getting good till he is really back against the wall? If he started the game like he is playing now…

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXCELSIOR

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge stop by the defense….. AGAIN.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Excuse me if I don’t type much here…my hands and legs are literally shaking (have been for the past several minutes).

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Should watch your blood sugar

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just say no to crack!

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my heart rate = very high.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto…I can hear it in my ears

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of outcome I gotta give the D some props for a fantastic game.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C’mon, you bastards!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of time. Plenty.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep… come on, let’s steal one!

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We could have used a big return there, Cribbs.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1:51 to get to what, the 40?

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw the field goal, LET’S GET A TOUCHDOWN!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jets backup QB to attempt 51 yarder to tie the Raiders as time expires.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES! I LOVE DONTE STALLWORTH

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Penalty!! I love London Fletcher!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we win this game, I’m gonna shit myself. I’m sorry but DA doesn’t deserve a win.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap, J Freely with 52 yarder to tie the Jets-Oak game up, overtime game.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crazy

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LET’S GO!

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We can make it!

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

COME ON BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WE CAN DO THIS

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasted way too much time after the QB keeper.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Patriotsesque radio difficulty.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No sacks, plenty of time, throw it away if we need.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NO negative yardage

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My, oh my…if Edwards read that hot read, TD…

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope we’re not playing for a FG.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad throw — DA sucks.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit shit shit shit… 53 yarder?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“bordering on 54”

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnitt

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braylon was WIDE open. Wow…

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braylon ran a deep in. Anderson threw the ball a good 5 yards further in from where Braylon was. He made a diving effort, but there was time and Braylon had plenty of room there to fit it in. Horrible throw.

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, Edwards

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, DA.

DAMMIT BROWNS

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMMIT

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We lose. Shocker!

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now the radio goes out on me.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how close was it?

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“How to lose games you should win.”

By Derrick Anderson.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

With a forward by Romeo Crennel.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And guest chapters by Braylon Edwards. “How to drop easy catches”

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense played well — offense deserves to lose.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another season in the toilet. It’s over OVER OVER OVER OVER fukkk this team and this city. We will never get a winner here

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, maybe in football, but King James and the Cavs are gonna tear it up this year. Watch.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah man, that’s not really that productive.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how close was the FG?

by Riverboat Sam on Oct 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not horribly far off. It had the distance, probably 2-3 yards to the right.

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god, i hate to say it, but we win this game easy w/ quinn at qb. bottom line.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Before the missed FG, what happened?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seems like 4 straight incompletions. god, i don’t care if we can only get a 4th rounder for him. DA is addition by subtraction at this point.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SOMEONES HEAD HAS TO ROLL FOR THIS. ANDERSON, CRENNEL SOMEONE NEEDS TO LOSE THEIR JOB TO PAY FOR THIS ABORTION OF A SEASON.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened on 1st through 3rd down?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHY?!?!?

So just what does DA and RAC have to do to earn a bus ticket out of town? The guy isn’t reliable, and Crennel can’t manage a clock. Not in the least. Season’s gone, might as well give Quinn the rest of the season and see if he’s going to be the real deal or not.

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh. Anyone know if Cowher wants to come back to coaching?

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Offer him the moon and a clause for the sun if he delivers a Super Bowl win. Crennel can’t run a game when the game is on the line, and and I don’t think Chud can either.. Chud can call a decent offense sometimes, but I think this team needs new leadership, of the spitting variety.

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not like the Browns don’t have talent, if Crennel does get fired it will actually be a very attractive coaching job.

With that said, I don’t think Crennel would be fired during the season. Even if we didn’t win another game.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really think it’s hard to pin this on chud. so, so many of these plays were not successful simply b/c the qb couldn’t execute.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not pinning it on all Chud, but the final drive wasn’t moving quick enough. If a tape of the communication to the to QB helmet appears, with Chud screaming something to the effect of “TIME’S RUNNING OUT, GET BACK TO THE LINE AND RUN THE NEXT PLAY, YOU MENTAL MIDGET”, then I formally withdraw any claim that Chud has some fault.

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can’t argue w/ the critique of those final two drives…

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s hope for a tape to appear then. Chud can call a great game, when he has capable QB, but Anderson just isn’t it week in and week out. Chud was probably just worn the hell out by the end of the game, after trying to find a passing play that would work.

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly, the radio communication was out, wasn’t it? So he was probably screaming from the sideline to the field. Not in to the headset.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did RAC use all his timeouts?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

of course

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, when the Skins had the ball before the 2 min warning.

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They pissed away a lot of time on the TD drive and the one before it.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d love to hear an explanation of why they didn’t run LEFT at the goal line. You have Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach over there and they run the other way?

by Fundamentals on Oct 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because that would have made sense!

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first time it made sense. Steinbach is known more as a technician than a drive-blocker. That’s Hadnot’s supposed area of expertise. The problem was all 11 guys on D and 4+ coaches are thinking “this is definitely a run”. Not only that, but DA’s snap count was easy to read ALL GAMEThe line did their job almost across the board, they cut the D line flat, didn’t let them in to the backfield, and Jamal could have had an easy leap over the top. The problem was on both runs to the right 4+ LBs and DBs were on Lewis before he got to the significantly-chopped pile of linemen. Whoever was supposed to be 2nd level did not do a good job. I don’t care how good JT and Steinbach are, they are not going to be able to cut their guy, then get up before their Dlineman can get up and block a linebacker too.

The 2nd time we called the play it would have been simple and yet awesome if it was a PA fake to bootleg designed to look exactly like the first play.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre channeling the mid 1998.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes I wonder if its really worth it to keep rooting for this organization.

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is just unbelievable. i can’t believe he can be so great and so horrible… again, not b/c of the defense, just physically unable to execute easy throws. an entire year of football gone b/c of one man. yes, this is reactionary, but it doesn’t make it wrong.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As dissapointed as I am in Crennel and Anderson I’m probably more so with Edwards.

I am so sick of these primadonna, pansy ass wideouts like him that preform only when they want to. It’s lack of focus and him not trying causing the drops. Five drops (and a missed blitz read at the end) are unacceptable and pathetic.

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am pretty sure at this point it isn’t wanting to perform. He knew he had to get close to last years stats and string together a few games like the New York game to get back to the pro bowl and keep the endorsements rolling in. He doesn’t get paid by 5 hour energy or Al Lerner to drop balls and he knows it.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it’s not about wanting to. You can say it’s lack of focus or lack of effort, but I’m certain that he wanted to catch every one of those balls.

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by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This New Jersey Oakland game has TIE possibilities. Neither side wants to score. Which is good for my fantasy team, Thomas Jones with over 140 yards rushing, lol.

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Favre will heave a TD up as time expires.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More than our other three losses, a close one like this really sucks the life out of you.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pittsburgh was very, very close (and also the fault of one man).

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crennel has to start Quinn next week doesn’t he?

by mgtbfb on Oct 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d bet a kidney DA starts next week

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by BringBackKosar on Oct 19, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would love to see a change, but unfortunately i think Crennel will wait until we get blown out a couple more times(or 4-5 more of the anemic showings) …….there’s loyalty to a starter for awhile and then it just becomes insanity.

by Jayson732 on Oct 19, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but you can’t deny that the reactionary, emotional response being displayed here is entirely the right way to go.

by rufio on Oct 19, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’ll have to say last year i was hoping for Quinn to get a shot. This year i was optimistic at the beginning w/ Anderson,but i do not want to get strung along the whole season with a really good game followed by 2-3 bad ones.It seems like Anderson does just enough in one game to buy himself a few more bad games. Damn even my younger brothers agree w/ me now, last year they told me I was crazy

by Jayson732 on Oct 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve said probably too many times on here that we need to get a look at Quinn, even if we eventually go back to DA.

Dealing with this whole situation needs to happen this year. No more questioning who the starter should be. We need one guy. If you have 2 quarterbacks, you don’t have a quarterback.

by rufio on Oct 20, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if he wasn't an idiot

Nope. With the season pretty much over now, it that would be a wise decision, to see if Quinn is going to be our QB of the future or not. Crennel would rather keep it in the hands of the unreliable DA, as he’s a known quantity.

It’s a shame. The defense played better than enough to win, after being stranded on the field by the Anderson most of the game. The O-Line played well, giving up only what, 1 sack on the day? We could even run the ball when they didn’t have 8 guys in the box, and sometimes even when we did. There were some drops, but I don’t think you can even blame with WR corps, as so many balls were off target. At one point does D.A. get benched? How many “Get out of Jail, Free” cards does he have left?

There were offers for Quinn before the deadline, yet he rides the bench. Nothing about this makes sense after this week. If Savage really thought Quinn stinks, they would have traded him. Yet we’ll probably see Anderson play brilliantly next week against Baltimore, and then drop the next 3 in row, throwing 7-9 interceptions in the process. He can’t win when the chips are down. He’ll probably smooth things over next week, but then lay three eggs in a row. Crennel must be suffering from “Battered Coaches Syndrome”. He keeps coming back, even though he should know by now DA will just keep hurting him.

by ouched on Oct 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well said. I liked the Battered Coaches Syndrome line.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be worth a kidney……

by Jayson732 on Oct 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll give a kidney if they’ll start Quinn

by Bereadawg on Oct 20, 2008 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do they still play 2 overtimes?

by gentryholdem on Oct 19, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only in the postseason.

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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just watched the highlights of the last drive on nfl.com (after the feed went out). on DA’s last incompletion (of 23 on the day) braylon was WIDE open inside the 15. all he has to do is put the ball anywhere near edwards and we’ve got a shot or two at the endzone, let alone an easy field goal. putrid performance by a qb who just lost a game, and season, for 52 other men.

by kwoog on Oct 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am jack’s burning ball of disappointment.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 19, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Winslow

I was watching the news and heard his secret injury was a staph infection and that there were some arguements between him and the front office about keeping it secret and whose idea it was.

by kjc on Oct 19, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright…I got to see this mess from the 40-yard line at FedEx field. I’ve read through most of your posts and here are my takeaways:

(1) FedEx Field…is just not a nice stadium. For as new as it is, the entire aura of the stadium makes it feel like it was built three decades ago. I’m not a snob about this, but there were zero modern amenities, even as much as a slightly “big scoreboard” type screen on either side of the field. Other scores in the league were on a five foot by five foot little “box” up on the nose bleed section. Replays were infrequent — and forget about seeing statistics as the game went on. I know, I know — I’m not old school. But Cleveland Browns Stadium makes FedEx field look like it’s for a damn high school team.

(2) DA was abysmal. Having not re-watched the game, I can only go on memory here, but he was just out and out terrible in the first half. Missing a short drop off to Jamal, absolutely gunning a behind-the-line pass to Donte. I also don’t know whether to blame DA or the Braylon/K2 on a couple of those missed routes, but…there is a REAL problem if for an entire half of football, Kellen and DA can’t get on the same page. Not to mention, there were what….5 tipped balls?

(3) Braylon cannot catch the ball. He simply can’t. It has to be a completely mental think at this point. And I know he made a fantastic catch on our touchdown drive after the Portis fumble, but c’mon now. He’s our star receiver. He’s not just looking for yards before he catches the ball — he’s just NOT catching the ball.

(4) Those last three drives were painful. Although we waited until the fourth quarter to have anything resembling an offense, we didn’t look BAD on them until the goal line (or the 36 on the last drive). If I’m not mistaken, J-Harrison was actually getting touches as we drove the ball. We were just methodically taking the ball down. And bam — an absolute brick wall seven times at the goal line. I nearly walked out of the game on the second down pass to Ali in the flat. That was just crummy play calling. We were fortunate to get the ball back after Portis returned to normal and coughed it up and yet again, we moved the ball and nearly screwed ourselves.

(5) I have to talk about one play on the very last drive and someone has to help me out. Second down, a pass to Braylon. Braylon had a very solid step on his man streaking down the sideline and DA threw a pass as if Braylon was cutting back for a post. WHAT HAPPENED THERE. That was a touchdown if (a) Braylon makes the cut to the middle or (b) DA throws the ball up the sideline.

(6) Dawson looked good in pregame warm-ups, but the wind was VERY gusty and swirling at times. And you could tell once he got past about 50 yards, he was either kicking it right down the pipe and coming up a yard or two short, or kicking it with enough power in the wrong direction. Give us six more yards on that side of the field and Dawson nails that kick.

(7) I loathe Redskins fan. My mother was a huge Cowboys fan and so I was always taught to hate the Redskins, but they’ve always taken a back-seat to the Steelers/Ravens these days. But their fans are just morons. I could go on about them — but jesus lord. They’re stupid. Just flat out stupid. Take me back to Cleveland, please. I’d rather have the self-defeating fatalism than the self-indulgent ignorance of Redskins fans at that game.

Okay…I’ve written a book. I am morally defeated and deflated after this one.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 20, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

re: #5, I have no idea whose fault it was, but it’s clear that somebody (DA or Braylon) screwed up the 2 minute package royally. And every time I think I know who to blame, I realize how bad the other one was!

by exposition on Oct 20, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#5

Braylon talked about how that was supposed to be a “hot” read where he makes a slant/post move to the inside. He says he missed the route (there was an article on cleveland.com that I can’t find anymore). The announcers on the internet radio also seemed to think it was supposed to be an inside move.

You never know how much of that is Braylon trying not to throw DA under the bus. I don’t think anyone outside the locker room will ever truly know.

But, Braylon is a fast dude. If he really was that open, a touch throw to lead him where he was supposed to be with enough hangtime so he can react should have led to a completion.

by rufio on Oct 21, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Anderson hits Braylon in stride on that play, he scores

by Roger Dorn on Oct 21, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know if any of you remember the altercation between Vickers & Anderson, but I saw Romeo’s explanation for it over at the O&B report:

Mic Problems: “Crennel said that the apparent bicker between Anderson and FB Lawrence Vickers was due to a malfunction of the helmet communication.”

"We had communication problems where (Anderson) couldn’t hear the play call and Vickers didn’t know what the play was," he said. "It was more of a malfunction of the communication system."

I kinda doubt it really.

by Jayson732 on Oct 20, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also attended the game and am totally dejected, but will give my thoughts like DisplacedBuckeye

1. Good showing from Browns fans. One of our vendors made a comment that “Browns fans show up better than the Cowboys fans”

2. If you ever go to FedEx field, beware the obstructed view seats if you are purchasing online. The seats have very limited vision and it’s almost amazing they built the stadium the way they did. You would think a modern stadium would not do something like that, but it seems the idea was to maximize capacity and revenue

3. Derek Anderson was the reason we lost this game, period. I know a lot of criticism will go to Braylon for his drops, but Edwards had steps on the defensive backs all game. Anderson consistenty missed his target by at least 3-5 yards, a truly pathetic display of accuracy. I saw Winslow wide open at least 5 times in which Anderson either didn’t look his way or didn’t have the necessary touch to loft the ball into Winslow’s outstretched arms.

4. The shove match between Vickers and DA was embarassing. The Skins fans really jumped on that and got fired up, something you can’t be doing on the road. I fault both players, you can’t disrespect your own teammates like that

5. The defense looks really good. I honestly can’t remember one completion that was not a result of Terry Cousin’s man making the catch. We really could have used Mike Adams at the nickel, because Cousin got absolutely torched by Santana Moss on his crossing route and then failed to make even a reasonable effort to knock him down. Even though the nickel is responsible for the slot receiver, I’d much rather see McDonald or Wright guard their best receiver no matter where he is on the field and let Cousin take the third best WR. Same thing happened in the Giants game when Plaxico ended up getting most of his catches with Cousin chasing him around. Teams are exploiting the Browns tendency to match up this way

6. Obligatory Shaun Rogers praise. Can’t say enough about what this guy has meant to the defense

7. The offensi