Cleveland Browns vs. Buffalo Bills - Official Game Thread
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 6:36 PM EST
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Cleveland Browns at Buffalo Bills, Nov 17, 2008 8:30 PM EST
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (3-6) | WEEK11 | BUFFALO BILLS (5-4) | |||
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| Date: | November 17, 2008 | Location: | Orchard Park, NY |
| Time: | 8:30 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Ralph Wilson Stadium |
| TV: | ESPN (Local FOX) |
Favorite: | Bills by 5 |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 40 |
| SBN Coverage: | Buffalo Rumblings |
Announcers |
Horrible MNF Trio |
I had a much nicer introduction and preview written up for this game, but apparently my clicking of the save button didn't work properly, because it was gone when I came back to it.
After losing twice within a span of five days when having multiple-possession leads in the second half of games, the Cleveland Browns have had awhile to regroup. In essence, it ends up being a second bye week for the team. If our record had been better than 3-6, that might have meant something. Instead, we're just hoping that Brady Quinn will play well again and lead the Browns to victory. Let's get right into this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Bills |
| Points Scored | 19.1 (25th) | 29.3 (21st) |
| Passing | 180.4 (27th) | 213.8 (13th) |
| Rushing | 101.0 (22nd) | 90.0 (28th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 281.4 (27th) | 303.8 (24th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns | Bills |
| Points Scored | 21.5 (15th) | 21.0 (13th) |
| Passing | 226.9 (22nd) | 205.3 (14th) |
| Rushing | 145.2 (27th) | 103.9 (13th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 372.1 (26th) | 309.2 (13th) |
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Quarterback
The Bills have not seen an A+ performance out of Trent Edwards this year. The former third-round draft pick started off the season managing games well, but he has not been very effective the past three weeks. During that stretch, Edwards has thrown 2 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Brady Quinn definitely has more upside overall, but this will be his first road start of the season. To be fair, I can't rank him as a superstar just yet. |
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Running Back
One of the bigger disappointments this season at the running back positions has to be Marshawn Lynch. His season has been very similar to that of Jamal Lewis' -- several "ok" games, but he has not reached the 100-yard mark or thrived against division opponents. When the Bills needed him most the past two weeks against the Jets and Patriots, he has combined for 62 yards on 23 carries on the ground. The Browns need to work in Jerome Harrison on a more consistent basis; let's see if Romeo Crennel holds true to his word. |
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Receiver
This was supposed to be a breakout season for WR Lee Evans, and he has quietly posted some fair statistics, still averaging an astounding 18.9 yards per catch this season. Maybe I'm off on this, but while fans around the league know that Braylon Edwards is having a down season, they'd probably project that his stats are still higher than Evans. That is not the case. Beyond Evans though, the Bills have the same problem they've had the past several years: there aren't any go-to-guys beyond him. Quinn established a solid relationship with Kellen Winslow and Donte Stallworth last week, and has an extra week of practice under his belt in working with them. |
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Offensive Line
The news has been better for left guard Eric Steinbach, although there isn't a definite word on his status tonight. The Bills improved their offensive line in the offseason and their ranking might have been higher had they not been part of a three game losing streak. Both teams are pretty even at blocking the run, but the Browns excel when it comes to protecting the passer. |
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Defensive Line Corey Williams' shoulder has him listed as questionable again. Sooner or later, I'm definitely due on an article about how Williams has been a complete bust thus far. The Bills will still be without outstanding pass rusher Aaron Schobel on Monday Night, a big break for Brady Quinn. For the second week in a row, Quinn shouldn't feel the pressure too much. |
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Linebacker
Big change at the linebacker position this week: Shantee Orr is going to see some playing time. With that said, it only makes sense that rookie fourth-rounder Beau Bell will probably be inactive again. For the Bills, Kawika Mitchell and Paul Posluszny are two players I'd like the Browns to get their hands on, if we had the appropriate defensive system. The Bills aren't particularly lights out at linebacker, but they are a healthier and better-tackling unit that Denver was. |
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Secondary
Cleveland's secondary has taken major steps backwards the past two weeks, but they are ones that we can recover from. Really, we've only been burned late in games -- hopefully Mel Tucker, being a defensive backs specialist, will find a better rotation by throwing Travis Daniels and Mike Adams into the mix more often. |
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Special Teams
Joshua Cribbs is back to the point where he can return a kick the distance every time he touches the ball. The Bills have a nearly equally dangerous returner in Roscoe Parrish, but like Cribbs earlier this season, Parrish is sort of in a "dry" spell period. Phil Dawson had two tremendous kicks in a snow bowl last season -- I think he'll be ready for some chilly weather in Buffalo. |
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 20, Buffalo Bills 17.
The kiss of death again, right? Had the Bills not looked so bad the past three weeks, I would've taken the Bills in this matchup. On the season though, Cleveland has never really played horrible football after the first three weeks. We beat a Jacksonville team on the road when they were on the same exact type of slump that Buffalo is on right now.
Quinn played a game last week, looking like he was managing a game plan. This week, he'll mentally be ready to score quicker and execute more often down the field in case he needs to keep up the scoring in a shootout.
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 11 as they battle the Buffalo Bills on Monday Night Football. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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How good does BQ need to be for you to give him the edge over Trent Edwards? Sure, our secondary will make him look like Tom Brady, but that’s not a reflection on BQ.
by elsandito on Nov 17, 2008 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the problem is the mix of who I think is better and who I am ranking as better.
If someone said “Quinn vs. Edwards”, I would say “Give me Quinn”.
But, then if someone said, “in this game, how could you rank Quinn better than Edwards when it’s only his second career start, and his first on the road?” Then I’d say what I said — out of fairness, I’ll consider them even for now.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And, with two or three more consistent starts, maybe I’ll be able to rank Quinn ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick come Week 16 ;) Only kidding; but if I like what I see the next few weeks, he’ll have a strong chance to being given the edge against a team like the Eagles or even the Titans.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One note guys: I won’t get to start watching the game until around 10:00-10:30, so I’ll be catching it on tape delay and therefore probably won’t be able to comment during the game. I could pop on the radio when the game starts, but I’d rather catch the game later on and act like I’m seeing it live.
So, have fun discussing the game on this chilly Monday night.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i hesitate to say this here, b/c dick jauron is clearly trolling, ready to pounce on the great ideas that we post here…
don’t we take a shot downfield to edwards on the first or second play? quinn’s longest throw last week was 13 yards? doesn’t one of the first two plays have to be a double move with edwards flying past the secondary for a long completion?
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 17, 2008 7:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you’re thinking, but I don’t think it’s as necessary as it was in the past. Quinn was very effective last week on short throws; it might be better to continue with that comfort zone again and tame the crowd. Then, still early but a little later in the game, I’d give Edwards a crack at a deep ball.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i feel like the earlier we take a shot downfield the better. then that intermediate game loosens up, and the more confidence brady can amass. with some concern about edwards and streaking deep, winslow becomes even more effective.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 17, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a great idea. It would at least show the defence that we are willing to look deep,
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for “Announcers: Horrible MNF Trio.” If they are sycranized, you’re better off listening to local radio stations and muting the MNF idiots. Listening to these twerps babel on about nothing is unbearable at points.
Bill Cowher = victory
by ouched on Nov 17, 2008 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
kornheiser is a total train wreck, but i actually like jaworski. i find his analysis of x’s and o’s to be pretty interesting. i’m a tirico fan, too. total pro…except when he has to shill for his ESPN pimps.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 17, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also like Jaws, he can break down the game really well. Kornheiser is terrible in the booth, though. If ESPN really cared about showing a football game instead of making it “entertainment” then they would let him go. But they try to make a show out of everything so we’re stuck with him. I actually like him very much on PTI but this isn’t his thing.
On the bright side, at least they’ve seem to cut down on the in-booth interviews this year. Those were always unbearable.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday Inactives
This should be my last post before the game, then I’m off.
Cleveland Browns
LB Beau Bell, CB Gerard Lawson, SS Hamza Abdullah, QB Ken Dorsey, FB Lawrence Vickers, TE Martin Rucker, OG Scott Young, WR Steve Sanders
Buffalo Bills
DL Aaron Schobel, OT Demetrius Bell, QB Gibran Hamdan, OG Jason Whittle, DL John McCargo, WR Josh Reed, WR Justin Jenkins, RB Xavier Omon
Comments: No surprises for Cleveland; good to see Steinbach and Williams dressed up. As expected, no set playing time for Beau Bell.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by ChrisPokorny on Nov 17, 2008 8:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Monday Night Version 2.
I’m just hoping for it to resemble the first time. I’ve had a nice week and a half of detox from our “Week from Hell: 2008.”
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Monday night against a New York-based team in red, white, and blue. Looks pretty similar to me!
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The tried-and-true 2nd down run. :(
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey. We’re 3-6. Why change a good thing.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That “offensive” series makes me wonder why I’m watching (and game-threading).
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should put Shaun Rogers out to play Wide Receiver?
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The thought of this makes me giggle.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it unlikely that Rogers would get press coverage.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cornerback, tastes like chicken, yum.
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh, no on gets pressure with 3 rushers.
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if i told you the Browns would have 2 picks, both by LBs, in the first 5 minutes, how many Christmas Ales would you say I’ve had…. 5, 6?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zero. That sounds like a straight tequila type of hallucination.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When did we trade DA to the Bills?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
how long before we hear the chants of “J.P.! J.P.! J.P.!”?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
way to lead with the should, Jamal Quinn.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
should = shoulder
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn didn’t even look for the throw.
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can I just say:
BQ going without sleeves and putting his shoulder down on that hit? I LOVE IT.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
looks like braylon got away with a block in the back on that bootleg
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Ali, guess it was a good thing we kept 2 FB’s
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Charles Ali, your leading receiver!
This is bizzaro Browns football.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OH COME ON.
THIS IS GETTING FUCKING RIDICULOUS.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Allow me to rephrase:
This is already well beyond ridiculous.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice catch, #17.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What would the Browns’ record be if Bray’ caught half of his drops?
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 8:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
anyone else watching the espn HD feed? what’s with the audio?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
getting a weird, metalic echo leading into the play sometimes.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to be specific, ESPN HD feed on DirecTv.
anybody?
getting it when i flip to channel 8 as well.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good, then it’s not the Christmas Ale.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember how happy we were with Bray’ after the NYG game?
Yeah… me, neither.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus the Great Wall of Cleveland is a PLAYMAKER
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Harrison on this drive
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I always knew you were a cover for ChrisPo.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of like being a sock puppet
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Rogers is meeting 3 people on the line almost every play, why can’t anyone else make plays?
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 9:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
very, very nice down by Adams.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
eat em up, Shaun
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Delay of game on 3rd and 1 — nice!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
never mind….time out
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please allow me a McNabb moment: there are :30 timeouts in the NFL?
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome… if we get six from it.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow at our Defense today.
Just wow.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow. now mcdonald. interceptions for everyone!
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OMG ANOTHER PICK!!!!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if they only lead by 6 after 3 TOs in the 1st Q, that’s gonna come back to bite them just like the failure to capitalize on field position did in the Redskins game.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please, we need a TOUCHDOWN.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice coverage. 6 points on 3 TO’s is not good.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All 3 were in BUF territory, right?
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the first one was.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So who here had the Browns defense playing for their fantasy team today? Any hands?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoever says they did is lying.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had Bears D over Steelers D yesterday…oops. Cost me a W
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, we traded Braylon to the Bill in between possessions.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is not good. Quinn is really struggling so far but Edwards has been truly atrocious.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We probably score a TD if Braylon doesn’t drop that early pass
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn is definately NOT living up to the hype so far.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not getting much help by the line or Braylon either.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh…that’s an inside joke between me and fwembt.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We all knew that. Sheesh. Way to ruin our fun.
Right?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s first down – it must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it’s second down – it must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s second down. It must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m seriously considering betting on it in the future.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t bear to watch the clip of McDonal whiffing on Royal
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What about the clip where he just decides not to go after the runner? (Thankfully, not shown just then.)
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Flag!! Our best offense.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t really sure that was anything. So, I’ll take it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, it’s official. The Lewis dive play sucks
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s first down. It must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
We’ve been setting up the second down play action for….oh, nine weeks.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
legitimate lol
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, a completion! To Winlsow, of course.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s kind of nice to see one of the Bills players do to Edwards what I have wanted to all year.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another nice throw — and Braylon caught it!!!!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ok, it’s official. The Lewis dive play sucks
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lewis for 1 on 1st down — this is exciting!
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m concerned the world may be ending.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. StayPuft would never hurt anyone.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If someone asks you if you’re a God,
You say YES!
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow — we’re on a roll now. Let’s keep this up!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey. I like this broken record: completion up the field for a first down!
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BE getting a rhythm. This is a good thing
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s first down. It must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And when we have a passing game, we can run for 6 yards on first down.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to be able to sleep tonight. I am getting too worked up
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take that run! first and goal!!!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You havent been watching closely: that’s every first and second down, regardless of field position.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’d better throw on first down.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love that call!!!!! TD!!!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CRIBSSBSBSBSSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSSBSBS
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s first down, It must be a handoff to Cribbs for a touchdown.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Get the ball in the hands of your playmakers
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sent Lewis right, but I didn’t see any Bills go for the misdirection
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess we can only score TD’s when we start inside of the 5. Who needs field position?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My one troubling, “I know I’m a Browns fan when” thought…
I’ve been this happy the past two games…and then…
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One? You’d think by now that would a constant nag in the back of your head.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all right, what’s with the popup kick. We might as well just give them the ball on the 40 and spare everyone some running.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like the field position we’ve been giving them. Thankfully it hasn’t mattered so far.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Side thought: Is there anyone out there who is surprised with Cuban being charged with insider trading?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I heard it’s for 3/4 million. Can’t Cuban just pay that back with interest like I would give someone a quarter?
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on Nov 17, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its first down, it must be a run up the middle.
by Estonianzulu on Nov 17, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, did Andra Davis just make a tackle behind the LOS
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh. They’ve figured out they can run at will,
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Horrible, horrible, horrible tackling.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow-the entire defense tried to do a brandon mcdonald impression there.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guys were jumping away from Lynch on that play
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Bills are just dinking and dunking, we need to tighten up the D
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tackling is overrated anyway.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 17, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did I mention the horrible tackling? If not, HORRIBLE TACKLING!!!
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Since I am an optimist, I will say that I am excited to see Cribbs get a kickoff return
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would have been happy waiting until the second half.
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Be honest: have you ever said the phrase “since I am an optimist” before now?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
About any Cleveland team?
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is my point. I haven’t been optimistic about Cleveland sports since I first saw Jordan put up 50 points in the playoffs against the Cavs in the early 90s.
Really, it’s a good thing that is my first pro sports game I saw in person, otherwise I’d think that we were supposed to, you know, win stuff.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who wants some J Harrison on this drive?
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why do MNF announcers always seem to complain about the games they call?
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks MNF. I thought I’d put the memory of Spergon Wynn behind me.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who was that Harrison?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice job by Brady to make a positive play.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we quit. I just think we suck.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
exactly
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zebras need to make a holding call
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 9:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We need to keep them out of the end zone. Can’t give up the lead before halftime after all the breaks we’ve got this half.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andra Davis is awful at tackling. You’d think that would be the first job requirement.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HOW DO WE NOT TACKLE HIM WHEN HE’S ON THE GROUND!!!
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Lerner is a werewolf. Didn’t you know that?
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I was the Buffalo coach I’d be running a screen every play, we can’t tackle anyone. lol
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FG is better than I expected a minute ago
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If we had anything close to a pass rush, Trent Edwards would be a pancake by now he’s so indecisive.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If quinn had the time edwards is getting, Braylon Ewards would have 4 more drops
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My new slogan.. Were is Randy?? We need the owner to step in and do something..
kinda like the 80’s were we had “jump Art”.. we need a slogan to rally around…
by Locnar on Nov 17, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only way Randy can help this team right now is if he can tackle or rush the QB.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ideally, the owner pays the bills and nothing else. Randy Lerner is a okay in my book
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your new slogan would be more effective if the first word were spelled correctly. It’s “Where.”
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s better than “Wear is Randy”
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For halftime viewing, Josh’s Cribbs is on FSN Ohio right now. Good show.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not okay with him not being in there at halftime and instead show-boating it up on television.
That guy is just all about himself. No effort on the field. This is exactly what Jamal was talking about.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s riding on a zamboni right now. Good times.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But is he going to the drive-thru for some fast food?
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So have you been saving that link for two years, waiting for just the right time to use it?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope – just remembered the incident and googled it a few minutes ago.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is considerably less fun.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know we’re ahead, but it sure feels like we’re losing.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So I decided to join a different Cleveland team’s game thread for tonight. I haven’t perused this one yet but I hope it’s mostly talk of beer.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
/sigh.
Ctrl+F “beer” produces only my post.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There has been a mention of Christmas Ale.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just started a Blue Moon for you.
And yes, I like fruit in my beer sometimes. Deal with it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If our defense plays like it did last week in the second half, there will be a lot of drinking tonight.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or if it tackles like it did, say, 25 minutes ago.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have to lead the league in offensive PI
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Think we could have a replay to see why that penalty was called?
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Way to start the second half, boys.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We got the first down. The refs took it away. I didn’t see any replay, so I refuse to believe it was a legitimate call.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where the f**k is the replay on the penalty?
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
none, but teriko said it must have been for winslow to be that open
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause Winslow is so terrible that he never gets open on his own.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man we are terrific at tackling.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
winslow= Browns leading receiver for the year s ofar
by Locnar on Nov 17, 2008 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
and he missed two games, right?
by JulioBernazard on Nov 17, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He just had a huge catch called back on a bullshit interference call.
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hm…You seem to be missing the point.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how you guys roll, but I’m rec’ing you.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon MacDonald wants his job back! He’s making plays today.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that he’s just not a cover corner. He plays better in pure zone.
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See, we don’t really have to tackle.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does the term “defenses” bother anyone else?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I mean as a verb, not a plural noun.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s first down. It must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Anderson is having the game Quinn is having now (6-16, 79 yards) are we not rioting in the streets?
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No. No picks, no horrible throws that come up like 5 yards short of the WR
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So 6-16 is ok if it is aesthetically pleasing?
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was never the completion percentage that bothered me about DA. It was about his terrible choices
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s more to football than stats. You can tell things about the QB by watching the game, the decisions he makes.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My main point is that the general clamor was for Anderson to be replaced because he completed less than 50% of his passes. Don’t get me wrong, I want Quinn to succeed but the double standard is absurd. 7-18 for 84 yards (now) isn’t going to get it done, meaningless stat or not.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But this is less than three quarters of one game. DA has been doing it all year long. You can’t make that comparison. Nobody was calling for Quinn to replace DA in the first game of the season.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Cleveland, someone was I’m sure.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not the point. You’re talking about a double standard, so you can’t go back and say ‘well, someone is always complaining’.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a joke and there is a double standard. Quinn was absolutely terrible today.
by fwembt on Nov 18, 2008 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The clamor for DA was not only because of his terrible pass percentage, It was also about how badly he was throwing the >50% that he missed. I think DA has been scapegoated somewhat, but trying to compare Quinn in his 7th quarter of NFL football with DA with over a year under his belt is pretty disingenuous.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not what I am doing. I’m just saying that, in one game, what we accept from certain players is greatly different from what we accept from others. Anderson plays this exact same game and it is evidence he has to go, Quinn plays it and we just need to give him more time.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree that Anderson plays a similar game to this, but don’t want to keep this debate going
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, THIS IS HIS SECOND START!! Nobody was saying that in DA’s second start.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not to say he is playing well. Just not terribly or contributing to a loss at this point
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True. I really liked that last throw.
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
May I also point out here that we are actually winning this game at this point?
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please see: 11/02/08 and 11/06/08.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, disregard the second one.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another run for Quinn! Where is this coming from?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think that was J.Wright. Cribbs handed it off.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad – looked like they were going to pick up that blitz too
by voldog on Nov 17, 2008 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig third down conversion.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
braylon was out of bounds when he got hit.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s first down. It must be Jamal Lewis up the middle.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell has run up the guy twice now
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Into the wind too, so, no FG here.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well okay, I’m wrong. I like it when Dawson proves me wrong.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I once told Dawson that a rhino could feel no pain.
He … he showed me things that day.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 17, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Wright in on third down? Did Harrison do something untoward to Romeo’s wife?
by fwembt on Nov 17, 2008 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we can officially say this is getting into Marte territory.
Except…I actually think J.Harrison is good. Unlike the other guy.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 17, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t Wright always the third down back?
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 17, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, flag wasn’t even moving from wind. After the break they’ll be talking about the huge snowstorm.
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
McDonald is playing with some heart today
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2008 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where the f**k is the holding call?
by gentryholdem on Nov 17, 2008 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs