Bill Cowher Rumor

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST Comment 70 comments

Good news out of http://www.profootballtalk.com/

It reads that the Browns are pursuing Cowher and willing to pony up $8-$9 million per year to get him here. Of course this would mean handing over personnel decisions as well, and the end of the Savage era in Cleveland. If this means getting Cowher in here, then I am all for it. God would I love that guy on the sideline. We will see some fire for once!

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Will Bill Cowher be on the Browns sidelines when they kick off to start the 2009 season

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Uhhh….didn’t we just have this conversation?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 20, 2008 6:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

apologies for the oversight…way to be a sarcastic prick. You get off on bustin chops on this blog…always a smart comment

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, that is ridiculously out of line. “prick”? Are you kidding me?

by joeee on Nov 20, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

him jumping down my throat for an honest oversight is out of line

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No dude, you’re just being hyper-sensitive. In the list of terrible things to say to someone, posing the hypothetical “didn’t we already talk about this?” is pretty low. It wasn’t a personal barb at all – take it on good faith that no one here is out to make one person or another look bad – it will make your life a lot easier.

by joeee on Nov 20, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I should’ve avoided the name calling.

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, it’s alright. No one here is perfect.

by joeee on Nov 20, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

speak fo yoself son

wut wut

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 21, 2008 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

tru.

by joeee on Nov 21, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah man that was relatively “in-line”

by rufio on Nov 20, 2008 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the name-calling. Actually, of all the blogges I’ve met at LGT and DBN I think that I’m one of the nicer guys around, but that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong. You need to spend some time on LGT if you want to meet guys that are nasty.

The point is that we just had a FanPost and a long conversation about this only a week ago. Do we really need to talk about it again? My question to you is, did you not see the other FanPost about it? If not, you should look around before posting something redundant. If you did, why did you feel the need to post this again? What more can we possibly add?

At LGT, a post like this would be ripped to shreds for not being more observant of what’s already been posted, then deleted. I was just pointing out that we already talked about this so I didn’t know why you posted it. But feel free to call me whatever names you want.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 20, 2008 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

By the way, Chris, that last paragraph wasn’t meant as a message to you or anything like that so please don’t take it that way. You can do whatever you want. You’re the moderator of this site and you do a fantastic job.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 20, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m on the site daily and it was a simple oversight on that fanpost. But feel free to continue being a sarcastic prick. And you’re constantly getting on other people’s cases, so it doesn’t appear you are one of the nicer guys around, but I could be wrong.

I know the rumor has been swirling, but I’ve not seen it posted on a reputable site to this point. Again, that could just be me. I see you around on this site, and Fear the Sword, and you are one of the more knowledgable bloggers and I make a point to read your posts whenever I see them, but it was an honest mistake, so take it for what it is.

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you for the complement (while again calling me a prick). I wasn’t “jumping down your throat.” If you were on this site daily then I don’t know how you could have missed that post. It has 122 comments!!! That’s the most of any post on the sidebar (and possibly ever on this site — not sure). And it’s only 10 days old. If you’re here every day, how could you miss a post that everyone was posting on for a week?

Also, I don’t consider having discussions and/or disagreements with people “getting on other people’s cases” if that’s what you mean. That is why we all participate in this site and it’s why I enjoy it. It wouldn’t be any fun if we all agreed on everything.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 20, 2008 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

In fairness, while not a sarcastic prick, you have been a post police at times

by Roger Dorn on Nov 20, 2008 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was out of line w/ the name calling. Not sure how I missed it, especially w/ all the additional comments of 122.

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s okay. No hard feelings.

Also, Roger, you know that if a repeat post like this was made on LGT there would be about 10 people within 5 minutes calling the person names and telling them to read the site before posting, so I don’t think I’ve done anything differently here. There just isn’t as much ‘policing’ done here about that kind of stuff. What I don’t like is that there are sometimes people who haven’t participated in our community who post something stupid then don’t come back to talk about it. There have also been people who make posts that just pimp their own site. These don’t happen often, but if they do I will call people out on that because I think posts and comments like that degrade the quality of this site. Chris does a great job with this site and I think we should all try to keep that quality high.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 20, 2008 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually that’s not really true. There would be like 1 person, plus three or four people making hilarious jokes about it. Most in LGT just roll their eyes and allow the mods to shut it down.

by joeee on Nov 21, 2008 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

FYI, It’s spelled “compliment” so suck it.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Nov 21, 2008 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Uhhh, no. Maybe you just roll your eyes and ignore it. But people there jump all over posts or comments that don’t meet their standards. And many are excessively nasty about it, much more than anything I’ve ever said.

By the way, when I posted that one comment a few weeks ago responding to an idiotic poster, why didn’t you just “roll your eyes and ignore it”? Why did you have to attack me and accuse me of doing things that I’ve never done?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Because I, like others here, was tired of seeing you consistently being the one to bring the hammer down on all the newbs/morons. Sometimes it’s neccesary, many times it’s not.

by joeee on Nov 21, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I think this is a great place to discuss Browns football and I want to keep it that way. If we let random people stop by and make dumb posts then it degrades the quality of this site. And I got somewhat nasty to those Ravens guys that stopped by because all they wanted to do was trash the Browns and make dumb comments. That’s the only time I think I’ve ever been mean to someone on here. There are many people at LGT who act like much more of a jerk than I’ve ever been, and that’s often happened to me personally. So I don’t think I’ve said or done anything out of line here. And I’d like to know how you know what other people here think.

Also, you still haven’t apoligized for accusing me of criticizing people’s spelling when I’ve never done that (and I would never even think about doing that — I make spelling mistakes and typos all the time). I don’t like being accused of something I’ve never done, and when I ask you to back up your accusations you just ignored me. I think that’s rather rude.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hate how you make people go round for round like this. You are being sensitive. I’m not offering you an apology for the following reasons: (I admit they’re from LGT, so it blended together):

I actually think the BIRD is worse….if you don’t know how the spell the name of a pitcher that’s been on the team for 3 years — and it’s FOUR letters — then you’re not much of a fan.

Really, Crazy, when is this going to stop? People use punctuation when writing because it makes our words easier to read.

How do I know what other’s think? I don’t, at all. But if you read up in this thread, there are two posters other than myself who commented on your post “ball-busting.”

Can we move on?

by joeee on Nov 21, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

OK, everyone was complaining about that guy. Why are you singling me out? And what people (besides you) do I make go round and round — you’re the only one doing this to me. I’m sorry if I don’t like being called out on things that I don’t think are true.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is why I didn’t want to get too far into this. Obviously, no one likes getting called out, not me, you, or anybody else. Let’s talk Browns now.

by joeee on Nov 21, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I shouldn’t of started this in the first place.

by dawginphilly on Nov 21, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

OK, good for me.

Thanks for having my back here, by the way.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

For the record, I liked the Craze monster, and I hope he posts again.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 21, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

YOU ARE A JERK, BRAD, A F@#%* JERK.

(that’s a joke, just to clarify. now go jump in Mirror Lake.)

by rufio on Nov 20, 2008 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The local news supposedly has an independent source confirming this.

I don’t like it at all if I’m the Browns. 8-9 mil a year for Cowher? Who do they think he is?

by gahnki on Nov 20, 2008 6:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

what the heck could they be confirming? I mean, Randy Lerner would have to make this decision, and do you think he is even considering a move so drastic yet? I mean, I was all for the speculation, and I think its deserved and exciting speculation, but I am weary of the “source”.

by DaytonDogg on Nov 20, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously, wouldn’t you have to at least confirm the firing of Romeo before you confirm the hiring of another guy?

by rufio on Nov 20, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Confirming the act of making contact with Cowher.

by gahnki on Nov 21, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish this would hurry up and be confirmed

Because there is a coalition of functionally retarded Houston fans who think we’re going to hire him.

www.HoustonDiehards.com

by HoustonDiehards on Nov 20, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

what is “functionally retarded”

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Nov 21, 2008 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

People who want Bill Cowher.

by fwembt on Nov 22, 2008 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Are you implying you don’t think Cowher is a good coach, or do you think he costs too much

by Roger Dorn on Nov 23, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seconded. Fwembt, you seem to be the board’s contrarian. It seems like you see the Browns as a team with little talent and fewer prospects and I’d be interested to hear more.

by NickFantana on Nov 24, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wish people would stop linking to a website I refuse to visit anymore.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 20, 2008 7:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What is the problem with the site? I use it often and it gives great insight to what’s going on well before reported. They have a very high rep as well.

by dawginphilly on Nov 20, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Great insight?

High rep?

It’s mostly rumors that when proven true, Florio cheerleads about being the first major outlet to report it (and won’t let you forget about it for years). When he’s wrong, and it does happen, you either don’t hear about it again or it gets laughed off. He has obvious biases that I don’t care for.

I used to frequent the site until I realized what it was. Now, I visit once per year… the day that free agency begins. That’s the only day I see any worth in looking it up.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 20, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This pretty much sums up PFT.

by gahnki on Nov 21, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

PFT did nothing wrong!

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 21, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So really what I’ve gotten from this is that Brad is a prick for pointing out something truthful.

Prick.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 21, 2008 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Really, Our team is a mess, The GM telling people to F- – - off, A tight end who is pissed at everyone, players calling other players quiters, QB issues, and a head coach who is a fine individual, but a horrid head coach.
Guy brings up Cowher from a ANOTHER source and gets crapped on. Got to love it.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Nov 21, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

how about this. rather than go on and on about people being pricks and people reposting old news, let’s all offer a simple opinion response:
1. do we want cowher in cleveland?
2. is 9 million too much?
3. do we think he would take the team to the next level?

my answers are yes, no, and yes. if people already responded in the previous post, maybe they’ll just forgo responding here.

by Dawg Nuts on Nov 21, 2008 9:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

because all regular posters already commented on there thoughts on these issues, the only thing to comment on is the “new” source and the state of the rumor itself.

DawgNuts- if you are looking for our thoughts on that, simply go to http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2008/11/10/657892/official-cowher-to-clevela

and read them.

by DaytonDogg on Nov 21, 2008 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

1. Maybe; I am ok with it but am not the one who should make the decision.
2. No amount is too much for the coach. The Browns should find the guy they want, and do what it takes to bring him in.
3. A legit LOLB/MLB, a WR as good as Joe J or Stallworth who isn’t injured, and an off-season for Braylon to clear his head is all we need to take this team to the next level. A legit 3rd CB could help, too. I could coach the team to the playoffs if we got those things.

by rufio on Nov 21, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Geez, rufio, you said you wanted to get in to coaching — jumping right in to the NFL as a head coach is a big leap!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

3. A legit LOLB/MLB, a WR as good as Joe J or Stallworth who isn’t injured, and an off-season for Braylon to clear his head is all we need to take this team to the next level. A legit 3rd CB could help, too. I could coach the team to the playoffs if we got those things.

Very much agree here. Our linebackers can’t run. They aren’t very athletic (as a unit) and they get torn apart when teams spread and shred. It was painful to see against Dallas, and just as painful against Denver.

by gahnki on Nov 21, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No
No
No

by fwembt on Nov 22, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would pay a head coach a kings ransom, complete with a palace and a harem, to come clean up the mess this team is in.

What we really need is the harvey keitel character from “Pulp Fiction”

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Nov 21, 2008 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

If Cowher = Winston Wolf, then Lerner is obviously Marcellus Wallace, and BQ’s got to be Jimmy.

But would Winslow or Edwards be Jules? And who on the team is cool enough to be Vincent?

Probably the most pressing question is who would be Marvin (i.e. the “corpse in a car, minus a head”), Savage or Romeo?

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 21, 2008 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

To me, the interesting development is the timing of this rumor. Savage just stuck his foot in his mouth and cost the team some PR. Now, perhaps Lerner is thinking that handing control over to Cowher may be a good idea even if it does piss off Savage. So, that lends credibility to this rumor. Or should I have posted this on the former discussion?

by elsandito on Nov 21, 2008 10:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree. Up to now, I have tended to think of all this Cowher to Cleveland talk as wild speculation. But maybe Randy is paying attention to Opie’s immaturity and sees what a fuckin mess this organization has become. When a national news organization picks up on a story, it just might have legs. I am so ready for this if its true. Go ahead Randy….pull the trigger!

Oh The People You Meet When Your Out of Ammo.........

by Juannieboy on Nov 21, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Guys I just noticed there’s already a thread about this. Didn’t see anyone else mention it so I thought I would.

Hi Brad!

by NickFantana on Nov 21, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for dropping by, Nick.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

anybody notice what word “Nick” rhymes with?

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 21, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Easy.

by NickFantana on Nov 22, 2008 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just sayin’

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 22, 2008 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is circulating throughout the net. Does any one else thing it’s interesting that there is no denial of this by the organization?

Bill Cowher = victory

by ouched on Nov 21, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

No, denial by the organization lends it credibility.

by gahnki on Nov 21, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And a dead silence does nothing?

Bill Cowher = victory

by ouched on Nov 21, 2008 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If the organization spent their time commenting on every rumor out there then they wouldn’t have time to do their jobs.

by gahnki on Nov 21, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If Phil responded to every rumor on the internet, he wouldn’t have time to write emails to fans.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

That’s true, he just apologized for that one. I really really hope Cowher doesn’t go to the Browns.

by Cols714 on Nov 21, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well you’re a Steelers fan. Get outta here.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 22, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Even rumors being circulated by larger “news” outlets like MSNBC? I don’t think coach will be sleeping well tonight.

Bill Cowher = victory

by ouched on Nov 21, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

RAC seems to know that with a 24hr news cycle people will always be circulating rumors, and barring 16-0 records with Super Bowls every year the seat will always be at least “warm” in Cleveland.

by rufio on Nov 22, 2008 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs