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Houston Texans vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread

Houston Texans at Cleveland Browns, Nov 23, 2008 1:00 PM EST


HOUSTON TEXANS (3-7) WEEK 12 CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-6)
VS.
Date: November 23, 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH
Time: 1:00 p.m. ET
Stadium: Cleveland Browns Stadium
TV: CBS
Favorite: Browns by 3
Radio: WMMS, 100.7 FM Over/Under: 50
SBN Coverage: Battle Red Blog Announcers
Kevin Harlan & Rich Gannon

When a fellow SB Nation writer actually picks the Cleveland Browns to win, you know you're in good shape. Over at Battle Red Blog, our Houston Texans affiliate, Tim has picked the Browns to come away victorious, 30-24. The over/under is high for this game -- at 50 -- because both teams have major issues in the secondary. Besides hoping for a Browns win this week though, there are several other games we'll want to keep our eyes on in terms of playoff potential. Our division hopes are gone, but hope still remains for a wildcard, believe it or not. Without further adieu, here is a "best-case scenario" for Cleveland today:

  1. Philadelphia vs. Baltimore: The Ravens are coming off a big loss against the New York Giants. I projected them to be swept by the NFC East during the second half of the season, and I'll bank on that trend continuing today. The Eagles were embarrassed last week by finishing in a tie against the Bengals, but they still know how to get after the quarterback. Joe Flacco will be rattled at the right time to allow the Eagles' defense to capitalize.
  2. New England vs. Miami: We need...the Patriots to win this game. Why? Chances are, one of these two teams are going to take one of the wildcard spots. If Miami wins, I think the Patriots have enough experience to win the rest of the season, causing both wildcard spots to come out of the AFC East. But, if the Patriots take care of business today, I think Miami will fade off a little -- enough for the Browns to at least have a shot at catching them.
  3. Indianapolis vs. San Diego: This is a real important game. We've already picked up wins against wildcard hopefuls in Jacksonville and Buffalo. The Colts are in a whole different league compared to those teams, but if the Colts lose to San Diego and we defeat Houston, we would control our own destiny in terms of owning a tiebreaker over them. One thing to note is that the Chargers have been a very good home team the past couple of seasons. I'm picking the Colts to win, but it's clear we need to cheer for San Diego.

Now that we know what else we need to pay attention to around the league, let's see what the Browns need to do against the Texans, starting off this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...

OFFENSE

Category Texans Browns
Points Scored 23.6 (11th) 20.1 (25th)
Passing 255.8 (5th) 180.0 (27th)
Rushing 114.3 (15th) 107.0 (22nd)
Total Offense (yards) 370.1 (5th) 287.0 (27th)

DEFENSE

Category Texans Browns
Points Scored 28.7 (30th) 22.1 (15th)
Passing 210.8 (17th) 219.0 (19th)
Rushing 132.5 (24th) 149.3 (28th)
Total Defense (yards) 343.3 (22nd) 368.3 (26th)
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Quarterback

Sage Rosenfels can provide that spark when his team is behind, but as a starting quarterback, he is way too mistake prone. Rosenfels last played against the Browns in relief back in 2005 -- a game in which he was 5-of-10 for 14 yards and 2 interceptions. I'll pass on him and take Brady Quinn in a second. Quinn won his first career game last week against the Bills on the road, but he suffered a fracture on the tip of his index finger. The odds are suddenly higher for Derek Anderson to play in this week's game, but that shouldn't be a negative in terms of our chances of winning.

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Running Back

This game will be a great gauge of Lewis' progress since last year (or lack thereof). Last year, Lewis ran all over the Texans at home for 139 yards and a touchdown. With Jerome Harrison and Jason Wright banged up after Monday's game against the Bills, Lewis' workload might reach the 20-carry mark for the first time in several weeks. Houston fans have been very pleased with rookie running back Steve Slaton, who is currently averaging 5.1 yards per carry on the year. Veteran Ahman Green has also returned the past few weeks in limited action and ran the ball successfully. The Browns will need to bring the same type of closing defense they had against the Jaguars earlier this season to have any shot at stopping Houston's ground game.

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Receiver

Technically, both receiving groups should have field days today. On the Texans' side, Andre Johnson's production has dropped tremendously since Rosenfels took over for Matt Schaub. Johnson has only topped 66 yards in his past three games, with only one touchdown during that stretch. Last year, the Browns -- Brandon McDonald in particular -- held Johnson to 3 catches for 37 yards. The Texans aren't all about Johnson though, as receiver Kevin Walter and tight end Owen Daniels present much more of a threat than anybody the Bills had on their roster last week. Braylon Edwards, despite dropping a few passes last week, showed some solid chemistry with Brady Quinn and will be looking for redemption again this week. Kellen Winslow will play with a sprained shoulder.

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Offensive Line

Whether it was Brady Quinn's fault, the running backs' fault, or Hank Fraley's fault, something needs to change this week to ensure that Quinn doesn't see free blitzers right up the middle several times. He cannot risk another "hit" on his finger. What was impressive last week was the offensive line's ability to clear out for Jerome Harrison's touchdown run. The Texans' offensive line has come a long way since the horrific days of David Carr being the most-sacked quarterback in the league. Still, the Browns have the favorable advantage of having Shaun Rogers creating pressure in the face of an erratic quarterback.

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Defensive Line

It'll be another great matchup in Part II of Joe Thomas vs. Mario Williams. Williams is a better player this year than he was last year, but the part that will make him more dangerous is when the Texans line him up at other positions. The Texans will also see the return of second-year defensive lineman Amobi Okoye. Although he hasn't put up productive statistics, he helps the Texans' interior defense up front. The Browns will be without Shaun Smith this week, again limiting our depth. Maybe we'll get a further look at rookie Ahtyba Rubin, who had a decent game last week against Buffalo.

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Linebacker

We'll say hello again to former Browns linebacker Kevin Bentley today. I don't really know if I'd take him over any of the guys we have now, but I don't imagine him having any special impact on the outcome of today's game. That might be a different story of linebacker DeMeco Ryans, who has started playing up to par again after being hampered by an ankle injury earlier this season. Chaun Thompson, mostly a special teams player, also plays for the Texans. The past several weeks, I've been a little more impressed by the effort that veteran Willie McGinest has been giving (though he is still having a difficult time, like the rest of our defense, at "finishing" a play). One interesting thing about today's game: Beau Bell is ACTIVE. Does that mean anything? We shall see...

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Secondary

Texans fans have not been pleased with the performance of their secondary. For the Browns, Eric Wright has done a tremendous job most of the season -- he's not making as many "plays" over the past several weeks, but he has been keeping his man's receptions to a minimum.

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Special Teams

Andre Davis hasn't presented many problems for opposing teams on kick returns this year. With that said, the Browns will need to watch out for Texans punt returner Jacoby Jones. He has two punt returns for touchdowns this season. Texans kicker Kris Brown is also 14-of-14 on field goals this year, including 5-of-5 on kicks between 40-49 yards. Phil Dawson has been as automatic as you can get as of late, especially on deep kicks from beyond 50 yards. Both teams have high explosiveness on special teams -- it'll be an interesting to see how much of an impact that has on today's game

FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 34, Houston Texans 21.
We had the Ravens in position for this type of win at home. We had the Broncos in position for his type of win at home. This week, we'll have the Texans in position for this type of win, and hold on. Houston has been a horrible road team -- they haven't won on the road in over a year now.

This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 12 as they take on the Houston Texans. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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Gameday Inactive

Cleveland Browns: SS Hamza Abdullah, QB Ken Dorsey, LB Kris Griffin, TE Martin Rucker, OG Scott Young, DL Shaun Smith, WR Steve Sanders, CB Travis Daniels

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Houston Texans: FB Cecil Sapp, DL Frank Okam, OG Kasey Studdard, LB Kevis Coley, TE Mark Bruener, QB Matt Schaub, OL Rashad Butler, FS Will Demps

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Commets: No surprises for Houston, but Cleveland’s are noteworthy. Good news that Jerome Harrison and Jason Wright are both active — as are Shaun Rogers and Sean Jones. Here’s another huge one: Lawrence VICKERS is active, something that could help Jamal Lewis on the ground.

Finally, as mentioned in my preview, rookie linebacker Beau Bell is active. He’ll probably only be in on special teams, but we shall see…also, it’s worth noting that because Bell is active, Kris Griffin is not.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

No Travis Daniels? That has to be surprising, right?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really, since we heard during the week that McDonald would basically reclaim his spot. Funny, but not surprising to me.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured he’d be our nickelback then. Isn’t he better than Cousins?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

who is our no 3 QB?

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ken Dorsey

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought it says hes inactive

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Pok’y-mon, you are a TRUE fan, if you’re still concerned with playoff scenarios. I applaud you.

After last season’s final game, I can’t ever root for Indy.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Opps, I made a typo…I meant “we need to cheer for San Diego”. (will change now)

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

hey boyz – can anyone spare a poor soul a link to the broadcast?

by joeee on Nov 23, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

You spelled boys wrong.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, well done Brad. Now gimme a damn link.

by joeee on Nov 23, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I’ve got it on TV.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got Bears-Rams on tv. I have seen every single Bears game this year – it’s killing me.

by joeee on Nov 23, 2008 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you live in the Chicago area.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Correcto – it’s awesome for all things except for Browns games

by joeee on Nov 23, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m glad that the Bengals are so bad that they’ve stopped showing them when they conflict with Browns games here in Columbus .

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always wondered which team got more play in Columbus

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I’ve been told (I"ve only lived here a few years) it was always the Browns, but when the Bengals got better a few years ago they started playing them more.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet…time for some Beau Bell sightings.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Way too much running room for Slaton so far. Of course, that’s not surprising.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Early D is worrisome

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yep, trying not to give up the big plays (BBDB)

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Cant bend much farther

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Tyler Thigpen this year’s Derek Anderson?

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

more like this years AJ Feely

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

take him out of the spread

and he sucks. he was definitely third string for a reason

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn damn damn. NIce catch, though.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Perfect execution by the Texans.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

FUCK. We cant cover Kevin Walter?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think the coverage was that bad. He made a nice catch, and the throw was away from the DB.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only got radio, so Icant argue. But he had like three big catches on that drive

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, the first two were bad coverage. He was wide open on those.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well. They sure didn’t look like a 3-7 team on that drive.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

The 3-7 part comes in the fourth quarter, when Rosenfels leaps as high as he can in the air with the lead and the football in his hands.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sad thing is…you’re absolutely correct.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

“Bend but Dont Break” got bent over, all right

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

you the man

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously – Rufio for prez.

by joeee on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

NICE! I award you a cookie

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks — if only there were quality teams playing, we’d be set!

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

ZING! Hopefully we can look like a quality team later in the game.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The running chat on the right side is annoying, but I like the vid quality.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Jets 7, Titans 0.

Favre’s first drive: 7-of-7, 72 yards, 1 touchdown.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

So he threw for his age on that drive?

Impressive.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Ba-ZING

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

San Fransisco is inside Dallas’ 5 YL, tied 0-0.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Did it actually happen or was it phantom?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Five wide, 1st-and-20, dump off to Winslow which would’ve gotten 2-3 yards max? Boo that play.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Can anyone on this team make a grab?

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Did Braylon give Kellen the dropsies?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Dammit Jamal

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

dang it!

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

1. Shitty play call
2. Fumble

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Spot on.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If we are going to throw to a RB there, it HAS to be Harrison.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

no doubt

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

just what i was thinking.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

If we don’t ever look to throw the ball downfield, people are going to start calling for DA back.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

and those people

can just be stupid

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone have Phil Savage’s email address?

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

lol i just made that joke dangit

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If we have a LOLB who is good, that is a 2 yard loss.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

what, you dont like the Davis “Wait three yards to tackle him” Method?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If he and McGinest were playing going forward, Slaton would have only had one run for gain on this drive.

I don’t know if that is coaching, age, or lack of talent, but it needs to stop if we want to get the ball back at all in this game.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

soon

Bill Romanowski will be old enough for us to hire him

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

AND a 2-gapping 3-4 system like ours should be perfect for shutting down the zone blocking system. The LBs should be eating the running game for breakfast right now.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool…we’ve worked on tackling in exchange for larger cushions in pass coverage.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

How is Steve Slaton not hurt yet?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

lets go d!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

ah talk it over wusses

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

We’ve got another thriller in the Philly game this week.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

What is going on there?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

0-0 score end of first quarter with minimal offense, according to the box score.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he said "the unit"

tee hee

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

If I am mad because of 2 yard gains does that qualify me as “cranky” right now?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

wow we could be down 14-0 to the houston texans…kind of threw up in my mouth a bit there

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Insert cliche about “any given sunday” or “that’s why they play the game” or “parity” or “the Browns suck” here.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

49ers again driving inside the 5 yl on a huge deep pass to Vernon Davis up 3-0 on the ’boys

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

This is the first time this year fans living in Cleveland can’t see a Cowboys game (that isn’t on MNF). I don’t think many of us will complain. ;)

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I would really like to see them lose, especially to my (second love) 49ers.

Who do you guys have on TV?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

1:00, only Browns/Texans.
4:00, only Cardinals/Giants.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a good 4:00 game. I am only getting 1 game right now (and you guys only 1 at 4:00)…why is that? Our home team blackout only applies to the timeslot when the home team plays, right?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Its on here in SoCal. The affiliates here love the fucking cowgirls

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its Fox’s company policy.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice play by Williams.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

THAT is what a zone-run play should look like against our D.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

ok 10-0 this will be somewhat more tolerable

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

HOLY CRAP! two in a row?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Is C.H.U..D. calling the plays for HOU, too?

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Held the, to 3, coulda been worse

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

Detroit is up 17?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Side note: who else is pumped for 24: Redemption tonight?

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

LOST commercials already on…

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, I taped Grey’s Anatomy the other day (I never watch that show, and I did not watch it either) just to fast forward through it later on to find the LOST commercial. It wasn’t too different than the general ones they’ve been airing.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank God. I am…pumped.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Cribbs is slowing down when he gets in that hole.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Braylon Edwards looking good….

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

glad to see it to

i was hatin him for a while tehre

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

nice play there

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

go miami!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

A lot of motions in our offensive sets today.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

They did the empty backfield motion again but on a different play. I love that they have multiple plays and probably personnel sets for it. Bad playcalling though, as it was the 3 yd pass to KW on 2nd and 20.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Woo! Heiden +Harrison = victory

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

“We haven’t seen much of Jamal Lewis since that fumble.”

Umm…wasn’t that just three plays ago?

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

shhhhhh

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

nice run

real nice

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

look at this running game!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

That was the unbalanced line, BTW

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Harrison getting the load on this drive with Jamal in short yardage. interesting…

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Oh hi running game. Good to see you again.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

o hai! Pictures, Images and Photos

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Unbalanced yet again.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Good throwaway by Quinn.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

LOVE to see BQ using the snap count. I think it would have been the #1 thing I would have worked on with Brady if I were a coach. It can get rid of those A-gap blitzes.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Mario Williams is pretty damn good.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

dang

jerome is ballin hard today

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Wow with all of the offensive pass interference calls against Winslow….

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

shouldve been a flag

but that pass couldve been better too

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Totally shoulda been a flag

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

too much pressure on Quinn

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

Quinn didn’t use the snap count that time. He has to recognize when someone starts creeping up like that. You can’t snap the ball when someone has momentum coming at you through a gap. You have to make him stop and then start again on the snap. That1/2 second is the difference between the play we saw and a completion to K2. Hadnot can also redirect inside (because he should be blocking the inside-most guy on this play) if he has that split second to adjust.

Something for Brady to work on, for sure.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Free blitzing linebackers, but all the routes were set up a tad too long.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Points, I’ll take it.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

we can always say;

well at least we have Phil Money Dawson

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Better than a kick to the nuts.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

what if the kick to the nuts

is worth 4 points????

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll take one for the team.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

ive never been to cleveland

but am planning an MLB oriented road trip. even though im a browns fan, im an astros fan for baseball, but most of the trip is in the northeast

is the indian’s stadium worth visiting if its a little out of the way? is it in the middle of the ghetto? isnt it right next to the browns stadium?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

the Jake i sweet. Well worth a trip

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Er… The Prog. But yes, it’s a great facility, and right downtown.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Still the Jake to me.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s right downtown, next to the Cavs arena. Very nice stadium, you should definately check it out.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

One of the best places to watch baseball in the country. And I mean it. Really easy to get to, and a pretty beautiful stadium/view all things considered.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

wow alright thanks guys

sounds cool

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Warning: there are no hills in CF, or trains in the ballpark. But I think you’ll still dig it.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

lol minute made effin rocks

although honestly, ive never been to minute maid either, my teams seem to have no relation to my actual location except for the Magic in the NBA.

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

eli manning and his charity work

pshhh

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

so our cornerbacks are like, “yeah we could cover him, buuuut i have much better things to do”

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Andre Johnson is very good. We should pay a lot of attention to him.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

ANDRA DAVIS CAN"T GET OFF A BLOCK!

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Nice job Andra Davis…engage a blocker when there isn’t any help behind you.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

It might’ve worked if he just took the blocker and knocked him back in to the hole but he just sort of stood there and let himself get blocked.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

um….sooooo how far do you guys think the texans are gonna go in the playoffs because i think that if today’s game is any indication, they should win every game by 43839794201 points

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

They’re not that good, our defense just sucks.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah we’re making them look like the 70s era dolphins here

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

“Crowd noise not an issue right now.” Good job, Browns fans!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

Oh my god…one of Wimbley’s first good looking sacks this year.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

as opposed to

a bad looking sack?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Law of Averages

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just thinking this — bravo.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Wimbley has played well the last two weeks. Watching the Buffalo game, he was great for a LB in pass-coverage. I think he can still pan out.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

McDonald attacks running plays better than our LBs

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Damn, the got in to field goal range. BLOCKED!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Shaun Rogers is AWESOME!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah baby!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

hahahah Shaun Rogers FOR THE WIN!!

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Immediately after this game I am going to vote for Rogers for the pro bowl. I suggest you do the same.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

ROGERS!! BLOCK1

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously…Shaun Rogers 2012. Forget that other guy.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

shaun rogers will be the first

black president… with a mohawk!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess we’re being serious today.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, how bad would this team be without Shaun Rogers?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

eff you guys

root for houston

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

uh…unnecessary comment much?

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

uh....

miss the joke much?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

How many times are you going to use that joke?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

til the day that i die

i even use it on MMA boards

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I am setting the over-under at 2 more “f*** _, go root for ____” jokes today.

And taking the over.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i can promise you

thats a safe bet ;)

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAH!!!! GOING DEEP, BABY!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

BRAYLON!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

WOOO!!! Great catch by Edwards!

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Edwards getting confidence back.

Quinn going deep.

And pump faking.

Loving it.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

confidence back? you were saying?

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

alright now calm down

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Braylon is an enigma. guess Brady should keep tosing them up for circus catches

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Throw was behind Braylon, but he should have caught that.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

That’s his one for this game, now he is done dropping them. At least that’s what I am telling him if I am a teammate/coach.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Dawson is automatic

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Dawson for president…..of the world

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if Shaun Rogers can be Viceroy of the United States.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

sure and bernie kosar gets Europe

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheif Potentate Ambassador

to the Galaxy

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

im gonna get some pizza

anybody want some? what flavor?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

I eat Papa Johns anytime I’m watching here at home. Real bad, and old, habit.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

im a college student

papa johns is WAY too expensive

$5 hot n ready FTW

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Little Ceasars?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

heck yes dude

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No way man. That’s why I started buying it in college — $5 for a large. Student discount the local shop ran.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

PANAMAAAAAA

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

flag better be block in the back

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

What I am working on at halftime:

1. Gap control/attacking downhill on the run

2. Covering a man and not an empty area in zone coverage

3. Timing the snap count vs blitzes

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

If I am Romeo, of course

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you going to go out in the yard and do this? Because if so…I need you to record that for posterity (and to send to Romeo)

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Local park, but yes. I’ll see if my camera battery is charged.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

im feelin a pick 6

on a side note, i said in 05 or was it 06….

that the browns shouldve taken Demeco Ryans in the first round

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Wasn’t he available when we picked Jackson?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont remember

but i know Demeco was the first pick of the second round

im an alabama fan so i knew how good he was first hand

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

1:50 is FOREVER. Cover a man and not an area of grass, get the ball back and tie this game up.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Shaun Rogers does not break the rules. He makes them.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Shaun Rogers’ episode of VH1’s “Where are They Now?” was 10 seconds long and consisted of a black screen with white letters reading “RIGHT BEHIND YOU”

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I get nervous everytime we go to nickel and Cousin comes in

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

cousins looks like

an alien

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

um…why exactly is sage rosenfels joe montana? is it because our cornerbacks are essentially stephen hawking mobility wise

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

That’s insulting.

To Stephen Hawking.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i apologize to mr. hawking…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

man hawkins is tough

im sure hell just shrug it off

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

nah man

sage rosenels is effin DIESEL

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

They are plenty mobile, they just guard areas and not receivers, and have to run 2 steps for the offense’s 1.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

wow tampa bay is leading now

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

HA, leave it to the Lions.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They make me happy to be from Cleveland.

Actually I lied. It’s because I hate the Pistons with ever fiber of my being.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re having trouble with the no huddle.

Can’t believe we’re losing to a dude named ‘Sage’

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

I just wonder if he has siblings named Rosemary and Tyme

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

HEY Rosenfels’ second incompletion of the game

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Sean Jones, make a play.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Sean Jones is playing horrible football right now.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

wow we could be down 17-6 TO THE HOUSTON TEXANS…hahaha wow

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

ok 13-6 somewhat more tolerable but still embarassing

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The Texans have a bad record, but they’re not a horrible football team.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be worse — we could be down 13-6 to the Houston Oilers. That would really be something.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

we’d find a way to do it

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Warren Moon FTW

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I didnt see the kickoff

whos gonna get it out of the half?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

We get the ball first.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

so we'll get it?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

13-6. Jesus.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

youve got to be kdding me

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

How did our special teams go from “awesome” to “horrible” in so short a time?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Ted Dashier wants out too.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he just wants to give Rogers another shot at a block.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

seriously? SERIOUSLY? we can’t even handle a squib to end the half?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

poop on my brain

and call me chockenfroizen

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

phew

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

alright BRBz

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Joe Flacco, 3-of-11 for 18 yards.

Ravens up 10-0 at the half.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

That’ll happen if the other team has 3 TOs in the first half. Of course, except if you’re us, in which case even with 4 TOs…yeah, I don’t know.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Opps, check that, Eagles return the kickoff for a touchdown just before the half. 10-7 Ravens now.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we study what they did to him? Please? And then maybe try to actually do some of it next year?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Sheesh…a lot happening in the two-minute drill. Ravens now driving, in field goal range.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Leading goat candidates after 1st half: Andra Davis (gameplay), Jamal Lewis (fumble).

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Can you say Edwards was a bright spot because he only dropped one pass? He made some other plays…

Rogers definitely in gameball contention

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

“Rogers definitely in gameball contention” — You could say this every game. He makes me happy.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We had a big imbalance of pass/rush in the first half. I expect the Browns to come out running to start the second half here.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

Can Cribbs start hitting the hole like he used to please?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

wonder if he just doesn’t trust his blockers anymore

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Brady’s got to get rid of that ball.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

should of just run it there, brady

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Nice moves by Lewis, good blocking not to let anyone get near him while he was making moves.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Bad throw by Brady. He has to be more accurate.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

That’s in the general area of where you want to throw that ball, but you want to throw it to someone on the good end of a height mismatch. Winslow comes down with that. Braylon does too if he doesn’t feel like dropping it. Stallworth should not be running that route.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Right — Stallworth it supposed to be a crossing route guy or a deep burner. I’m not sure we’ve gone to him deep at all this year.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys know more about that than I do, but it looks like Brady’s been off quite a bit today.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a good Braylon pass, not a good Stallworth pass. Why is he even running a fade?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

damn, you see that hit by Mike Adams?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, Detroit blew a 17 point lead. They’re losing 21-17.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

The play calls have rarely included Kellen Winslow today.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

well, according to everyone he’ll be gone next year so mind as well get used to not using him…by the way no winslow=no playoffs no matter how many fluke wins we get without him this year

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Open question: When was the last time a Browns punter had their punt blocked? I know it didn’t happen during the Gardocki era, but has Big Z had one blocked? If not, when before then?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

If Rich Gannon mentions that the Browns are 19-1 when Lewis gets 20 carries again, I’m going to scream. Has he been watching Lewis this year? He’s NOT a 20-carry back any more.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

This is a joke. we ahve THE worst defense in the NFL and possibly in the history of the NFL.

Outside of Rodgers ( who has to be frustrated) do we have a single credible NFL player?

They are all BUMS and need to be cut. We are getting humiliated by a 3 – 7 team. Whats going to happen when we play the Colts and Titans!!!!!!!!!!!!!??? WE ARE GOING TOP LOSE BY 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A few weeks ago I posted that it bottom line is that these guys, especially the LBs have ZERO heart, period. They are gutless cowards and I don’t know how they ever managed to become linebackers in the first place as LBs are usually some of the toughest, meanest football players. I’ve never, ever seen a team as gutless as this. Never seen anyone just flat out refuse to try to tackle. We have to be on a record setting pace as every team we face seems to roll up 500 yards and 30 points.

Our horrible coaching staff just compounds our defensive issues by running what is probably the worst defensive scheme in the history of the league. Their scheme is called the stand in place scheme. It basically consists of rushing three linemen and dropping the other 8 players to the same place every play. Blitzes are never run. Stunts are never run.

Great job coaching staff! Lets run a bland scheme that is totally predictable even though we have subpar talent. No reason to get creative. Seems like total laziness which makes sense when you look at Romeo and how fat he is.

Bottom line is we are years away from even being decent. I want people fired. This whole season has been ruined by lack of effort and stupidity. Even with our injuries we should have 3 more wins. Unacceptable IMO. Heads need to roll.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

gameday thread, way too much to read.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry. I started bitching and couldn’t stop

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s only 13-6.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

“Years away from being decent.” Weren’t we more than decent last year? I think you’re overreacting.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, “gutless cowards” is quite a statement. Just because a players isn’t very talented doesn’t mean that he doesn’t play hard and doesn’t care. I hate when people make pronouncements like that, as if you know ANYTHING about that person.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We should be able to stop the opposing offense on 2nd and 13 every time barring a freak-play.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

BRODNEY!!!!!!!!!

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

WOOOO!!! Brodney Pool exposing Rosenfels’ second-half struggles!

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

Pool is clearly an above average player.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

In response to mgtbfb’s long statement, I’d say that besides Rogers, Pool and Wright are credible defensive players. Jones would be in there if healthy, as would Robaire Smith.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. they’re all “gutless cowards.”

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

he is above average

amazing? no. premier? no. above average? yeah, sure.

very inconsistent.

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

there are really only 2 guys in the NFL at safety who’s impact you feel on the majority of plays:
Polamalu
Sanders

Otherwise, its better NOT to hear a safety’s name. Usually.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Time to get some points of the TO

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

wow, lewis got blown up there.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. That Mario Williams guy.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Hadnot not having a great game so far, that was his fault.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, fucking fantastic

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Part of the growing pains.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

well it was bound to happen eventually…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

guess we re-gifted that pick

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

What a fucking joke

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

(D-A! D-A! D-A! D-A! D-A!)

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

THIG-PEN! THIG-PEN!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI, that pick was Derrick Andersons fault

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

clearly

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Cousin making a good tackle?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

A rare very good open-field tackle.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Can anyone doubt that we’ve tackled a lot better today?

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t. I would still like to see more flocking to the ball, but I always want more flocking to the ball.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

man.

lets go brownies!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

bending not breaking, now where is the offense?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Browns should have Cribbs running one way on the next kickoff, and then give it off to Harrison on an end-around :-O

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Your brain would explode. I vote No.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

imagine if Phil had the opportunity to draft fast guys at skill positions in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and didn’t have to use those picks to fill gaping holes in our roster and then get skill position guys in the 5th/undrafted guys.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

only semty nine

eighty nine ninetynine nine ninety nine!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

huh?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

like the commercial

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice run by Lewis. We need that.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Feed him the ball.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Now, playaction.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

To Winlsow.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Running the ball — this is what I wanted coming out of the half.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Who says Winslow can’t block?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I like the call with Cribbs. I think he should have went outside.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Vickers should have just blocked either one of those guys.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

47(Vickers?) blew his block on that one

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Whew, with that safety blitzing so much, I thought Lewis would’ve gotten more there.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Fraley’s strength is not getting to the 2nd level.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice catch by BE.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

When he is catching the slant, its almost an automatic run for 5 yards.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

edwards has had a few drops today

but he and quinn seem to be building a little more chemistry today

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Braylon “Only Catches the hard ones” Edwards

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

no

he missed those too last week

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets put this in the endzone.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

dammit to hell

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

yep saw that coming…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Oh. My. God

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Why was that even thrown?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

locked in on edwards

i do it on my flag team. our no1 WR went down and it was the only game i didnt throw an interception

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell kind of a route was that? 5 seconds after I say how good Braylon is at running the slant, he does that.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah brady shouldnt have thrown it

but fault is definitely on both parties in that one

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck this joke of a team

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

go root for Houston

f*** you

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

no FUCK YOU I’ve been sufferring with this team for 32 years and if they play like shit IM going to call thjem on it. If they play well I’m going to celebrate.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

lol 32 years

and your JUST NOW callin em outa s a joke?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

rec’d

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we should just skip straight to Dawson every time we make the 30 yard line

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

or just putt cribbs at QB

and run it every down with direct snaps to lewis and all that

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Might be a good idea

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

HOW IS SHANTEE ORR GUARDING ANDRE!?1

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

I know…ridiculous.

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

poorly

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Another turnover would be great right now.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

OMG Derek Anderson is warming up!

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah, THATS the answer. Quinn has to learn to deal with adversity and overcome his mistakes. leave him in

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s gotta be the finger.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is Quinn in their with a broken finger anyway?

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Here comes ANDERSON! Wooooo!

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Holy shit.

DA coming in.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

1st punt at the end of the 3rd = bad.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

10 bucks anderson does well and romeo sticks with him for the rest of the season…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

WHAT THE FRICK

derrick anderson?? REALLY???

i almost hope we lose now to spare us the drama

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Doom Anderson at Qb

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

DA orchestrates the come-back, Romeo feels justified with life, all of us die.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

i will kill someone

if that happens. preferrably DA

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If they don’t blame this on the finger, they are going to have a hard time in the locker room, let alone with the fans. Split locker room ≠ good.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

So what’s Tim Couch up to these days?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

got cut by the jags

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

how about Todd Philcox? Spurgeon Wynn?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Kosar doesn’t deserve to be saddled with this group

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet we could get Alex Smith from the 49ers.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

BRAY! DEE! BRAY! DEE!

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously, a deep comeback versus cover-3?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

oh yeah, DA set the world aflame with that drive. Romeo you fucking idiot.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

KELLY HOCOMB FTW

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

I think we should trade Derek Anderson to Kansas City

get Brodie Croyle and maybe a draft pick or something and develop Brady as the no 1 with brodie as the solid no 2.

but first we fire romeo

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Adams sighting

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

we all know

hes not really real

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie McGinest = too slow to even cover the fullback anymore.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Nice job by Rubin. He needs to get lower in his stance though, I can always tell its him and nor Rogers because he is so high in his stance.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

good defense on 3rd down today

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, was that our defense?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

BRADY???

please?? o hplease

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Wonder if Gruden is still willing to trade Jeff Garcia. I know his last stint here wasn’t great, but I cant handle the DA Era Part II

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

No trades after week 6.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn. forgot about that.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he’ll fuck Gruden’s wife and get cut

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Over Carmella DeCassre?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

thats a crazy family

i would believe a garcia/wife/grudens lady threesome if i saw it in the paper

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

no way dude

thats a same calibre problem in a different shape

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

so did romeo take quinn out because of finger issues or poor performance…if its the latter we could have a problem if the coach doesnt have confidence in his players

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

we could have a problem? Could?!?!

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He took DA out for poor performance. DA probably only earned as much PT as he did by winning 10 games last year

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

it took DA 85 crappy games and a blown season to get yanked

brady quinn only gets two bad passes with average protection

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

but quinn has not played for nearly as much as da and da has done worse longer

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Brady has also made 0 pro bowls.

I am not saying it is the right move, I am saying that it wouldn’t be the first time Romeo yanked a QB because of performance.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Harrison FTW

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Not only is he good at moving the ball, he gets a lot of flags from defensive players, too

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d imagine that it was the finger. Since when do we bench players for non performance?

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

McGinest and Wimbley are still in there

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

romeo is still there too

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Wimbley has a sack in this game and has played well the past 2 games at least.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

and the false starts abound with our beloved DA

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that’s completely his fault.

by Brad D on Nov 23, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

sarcasm noted and appreciated…he doesnt manage the game as well as quinn…bottom line

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats going to be holding.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

2nd and 20, here’s hoping DA goes deep to Braylon regardless of coverage

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

im telling you

trade DA to kansas city for a pick and snag Brodie Croyle cheap and commit to brady

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

I’m telling you, the NFL does not allow trades after week 6.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

thats why

we need to play quinn now cus people will learn even more that DA sucks.

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Its got to be the finger.

Plus people already know DA can be horrible. Selling him to another team will involve convincing them that this season was the fluke anyway, one more game won’t kill his value.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How many flags can we pile up on this drive.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

wow

we kinda suck

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Oh lord.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

“DATS WAT I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!! DATS WHAT I DO SON DATS WAT I DO!!!!!!!!”

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

You know, I can’t even get angry. That is just absolutely inexcusable in every way. Absolutely pathetic shit by Braylon.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Braylon needs stickum. or tar.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

He should practice in teflon gloves and then switch to spray adhesive for the games.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to stop drinking that five hour energy drink. Shaky hands.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i have no words…this has got to be one of the more pathetic performances ive ever seen.

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

wtf kind of pass was that

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

noted

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Browns offensive MVP: the Illegal Contact penalty

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

LOLL another flag

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

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im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Score a TD here, force a punt, and then leave it up to Cribbs.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

Or and E. Wright INT return.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

2/6

not bad, not bad

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

2/7*

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

2/8*

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

3/11*

woah-oh

amber is the color of your energy

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just stop throwing to Braylon. work some to Winslow or Stallworth or Heiden.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

or one of us for pete sakes

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well i guess edward’s ads will soon be cancelled

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

5 hr energy

FTL

really those ads are an epic fail, with osi being hurt

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s hopeless and his head is probably screwed up beyond repair now.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Hopeless enough to convert a 4th down

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

but not a bunch of 1, 2, 3 downs

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to imply that.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Great move, DA, throw it high to K2 to expose him with one guy right on his hip and the safety ready to blast him.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

anderson completion? edwards catch?

wait a minute… wtf is goin on here?

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

WOOo flash package

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

wow

wow. you gotta dump braylon

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

AAAAAAAAGH

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus they really are throwing it to Braylon only when he will have to do something ridiculous to catch is

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

WILL YOU STOP FUCKING THROWING TO HIM

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

eff mah life

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

man even Dawson can’t catch a break

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

DA and Braylon’s suckitude has infected him.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So hey guys, who you think we should take with our top 10 pick in the draft? lol

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

matt stafford!!!1one

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i was jkzoring

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll go with Malcolm Jenkins.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Jenkins or Maualuga, or trade down to about 15 to get Beanie

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No way Beanie goes that low. He’ll be the #1 RB.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you ever seen a more lifeless, mail it in performance in your life?

by kwoog on Nov 23, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

i dont think ive ever seen so many mistakes and crappy plays and dropped passes and fumbled and blocked field goals and crappy everything ever in my life

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

I think I have to turn this off. I’m in pain.

And it’s not even that bad. I just…can’t do this anymore.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve had dentists appointments that hurt less

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

dawson doesnt screw up

we mustve built this stadium on top of an indian burial ground or something

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

there all yelling cowher…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

great in-depth analysis from completely sober and rational people who aren’t being emotionally abused.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

hahah so true…but i would take him in a heartbeat

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren’t we all being emotionally abused?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey sean jones, nice

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

PICK

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

lol

an image of one of those lame obama posters popped into my head, but with romeo crennel instead of the baracklithsberger

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You won’t be surprised that I have one of those posters hanging beside my computer desk.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense showed up today

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by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

hey the Texans blogger said he would give us the game about now, right?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

If that is offensive PI I am going to kill someone

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

Rosenfelts trying to give us this game.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

no way these players are this bad…this is ALL COACHING nothing else…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

No one else in the NFL gets that called agains him

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

serously, another OPI on Winslow? where was that call when K2 was getting molested earlier?

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

BOOOOOOOO!

Goodbye, everyone.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 23, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

holy crap

unreal

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Dear Derek Anderson
cc: Romeo Crennel

Please die.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

cosigned

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, at least the Cavs are awesome this year.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

OMFG. I just had the exact same thing written out.

Mo Williams is money.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they’re going to be great. I’m excited. Delonte is playing great next to Mo.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Buckeyes have a shot at a bowl game they don’t back in to

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad the browns

are the only cleveland team i like

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we got 2 more years with LeBron for us to win a title until he leaves.

They at least look like the real deal.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hes not leaving, especially if we win one before 2010

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If we win one I think he stays but the NBA, Nike and the media are going to do whatever it takes to screw us. Don’t think for a minute that getting LeBron out of Cleveland isn’t David Stern’s #1 priority. That and taking the game global.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think LeBron playing in New York is going to make him more popular in China and Europe? You need to get out of this “everyone screws Cleveland” mode.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair, Cleveland does get screwed a lot.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Every city loses players. Especially small markets like Cleveland. That’s just a poor-me attitude.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He won’t leave as long as the Cavs are still competative.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Lebron isn’t going anywhere.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

GO MAGIC!!!

dwight howard is a beast

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Howard is sick.

Is he a FA in 2010 too? I would rather throw a max contract at him, but I will take Bosh if that’s who we need to keep Bron.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Either of those guys would be great, but I doubt the Cavs have the cap room to keep LeBron and sign one of those guys.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

We simply don’t have the cap room to keep LeBron and pick up someone like Bosh or Howard. Just not going to happen.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually thats exactly what they are setting up to do.

ESPN would have you believe that NYK are the only team with the cap room to do so, but everyone who is not a dumbass in the NBA is finnagling for enough room to offer 2 max contracts in that offseason.

Before the Mo Williams trade we were the only team to have room for 2 max guys that year.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

But the NYK have enough room w/recent trades to offer TWO max contract offers- !

Nick

by nick_willis on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are being silly, here. No?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

LeBron’s not leaving Cleveland as long as they can win. He wants to win championships. Going to New York isn’t going to make him more marketable, he’s already one of the most popular athletes in the world.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you're right . .

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_mannix/11/21/Knicks.future/index.html

i would LOVE for a guy like LeBron to stick around and even take less money, but teaming up with another superstar in NY will give him the ability to win more championships (than he could here)

Nick

by nick_willis on Nov 23, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Less money!?!

If we don’t offer Bron a max contract we are asking for him to leave.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, LeBron is going to get MORE money in Cleveland than for any other team. Of course they’re going to offer him a max contract!!!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, so will the Cavs. Big Zs contract expires that year, They will have the cap space to offer two max contracts. AND they can offer more money than the Knicks because of the Bird rule. They can pay Lebron about 10% more than any other team in the league and still have enough room left to pick up a big name power forward or center.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

good point (on the extra 10% detail).

Nick

by nick_willis on Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

“As noted in our LeBron opus earlier this month, no fewer than 15 teams — including the Cavaliers — awoke Friday morning with less than $40 million in committed salaries on their books for 2010-11, hoarding salary-cap space for a free-agent class so tantalizing that we scarcely talk about folks such as Amare Stoudemire, Dirk Nowitzki and Joe Johnson.”

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

So depending on moves we make, we could potentially have three of Bron, Nash, Stoudemire, Dirk, Dwane Wade, and Bosh…

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t want any part of Nash in two years.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

magic will do what they need to do

to keep dwight.

he’s a cool guy and the face of the team. he is to Orlando what Lebron is to Cleveland. except we dont have the likes of derek anderson to fall back on

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he signed a new 5 year deal in 2007.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

forgot about that

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to go ask someone to kick me in the nuts to take the pain away from this game. BRB.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 23, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

This team, this fan base doesnt deserve DA and Romeo. We’ve been here too long and suffered too much to subsidize this fucking bullshit.

Hear me Browns ownership: you’re not getting another fucking red cent of my money until Romeo Crennel is unemployed

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

i dont care if hes employed

so long as it isnt with cleveland

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at it this way we could be Detroit Lions fans.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They would kill us right now. Hell, we would lose to Notre Dame.

Thank God we don’t play them this year. I’d hate the embarrasment of being the Lions only win of the season.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You are an idiot. At least when you are this irrational.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhh, you’re kidding, right?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m joking. Even as bad as we are playing today I think we could at least beat Notre Dame.

I don’t know if we can beat another NFL team right now though…..

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont think wed lose

however i wouldnt put anything past the browns

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

at least then

you know you suck.

id almost rather prefer consistent crap than getting a little hope only for it to be dashed by raw stupidity

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

only 3 drops??

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

yay!

derek anderson kicks so much ass

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

im done with this crap….out…

by VABrownsFan on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Oh look, another pick.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Another shining monument to the glorious reign of Crennel.

Romeo, I hope you fucking choke on a turkey bone over thanksgiving.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

What an empty stadium.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Sit Quinn until he is completely healthy and hope he can play well in the last few games to give us SOME hope for next year. No sense in not letting the hand heal as the season is over.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve never been more ashamed to root for this team. I can handle rooting for a team that sucks, but a team that doesnt seem to be trying? I need to go vomit now.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 23, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

I need to watch a couple of repeats of yesterdays OSU game to cheer me up and wash the taste of this game out of my mouth

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Beau Bell and Rucker should get PT.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Damnit, my vacuum cleaner is stuck in between suck & blow.

by gentryholdem on Nov 23, 2008 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

The Bills are putting up 54 on KC, so I guess it could be worse.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah and you are raking in the points from their D.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

thigpen!!!

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Nov 23, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ve still got the lead right now.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Barber was going to drop 40+ on me.

If Cutler and Marshall play like turds all game long you still have a shot.

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Another master piece. Can you imagine 6 points on the Texans? The Browns truly suck, there is no explanation, they are a horrible football team.
 Yeah lets bring in another hot assistant coach to run this ship.
Browns blow.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Nov 23, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

rufio…care to make a “why I hate our offense so much” post this week?

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by Chris Pokorny on Nov 23, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

I'll see if I can find the film somewhere

Anyone with an internet link where I could painfully re-watch the game?

by rufio on Nov 23, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Save us Randy Lerner

by Roger Dorn on Nov 23, 2008 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Does Savage fire Crennel this week in an effort to save this job or does his e-mail indicate he is probably gone too?

by palcal on Nov 23, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Phil was very safe with his job. My guess is that the email at least brought a moment of doubt for our owner.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 23, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Goodell said Friday that the economic downturn has started to hit the NFL, but the real test will come in the spring when they try to renew their season ticket holders.

Even the Boston Red Sox had to hold the line on ticket prces for 2009. The weak sisters in weak economies like the Browns may have to reduce ticket prices.

It looks like Learner waited too long to sell the Browns.

by palcal on Nov 23, 2008 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

There’s no indication anywhere that Lerner intends to sell the team. Quit trolling.

by exposition on Nov 23, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

When Lerner hired Crennel and Savage, he said he would sell the team if they did not work out.

by palcal on Nov 23, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The team isn’t going to be sold, especially in this economy and with the way the team is playing. Lerner would lose his shirt if he sold now, not that I think he’;s even considering it.

by mgtbfb on Nov 23, 2008 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

But do you think he should sell it?

Look at what happened to the 49ers when Eddie DeBartolo turned them over to his sister.
OR look at Paul Brown and Mike Brown.
Just because your father or your brother owned a football team does not make you a good owner.

by palcal on Nov 23, 2008 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

WRONG AGAIN!

Flacco not even close to rattled, as he throws 2 tds and does not turn the ball over once. Bitter Bitter Bitter!

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 24, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

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