Braylon Edwards is awful, but I don’t hate him. How could I hate someone so pathetic? He thinks he’s the best ever. This year, he’s been historically bad.

Umm lets start with the idea of sitting Quinn after two INTs. After watching DA pelt the ground for 7 weeks now we get an itchy trigger finger? I know he was hurt going into the game, but lets see if he could play through it.

And Jamal Lewis needs to sit behing Jerome Harrison. Lets see what we got.

Donte Stallworth has been a gigantic waste of money. If I remember his contract is voidable after this year. Something we could look into.

Our tackling blows. Simple as that. That is coaching and toughness.

Our offense seems to have no ryhme or reason this year. It looks like my little brother’s play calling on Madden.

Anyone else starting to look at draft stuff?

Romeo Crennel, Mel Tucker, Andra Davis, Bralon Edwards, Jamal Lewis. These are the goats of the game.

How can we be so incompent???

This performance was so ugly, I watched an old movie with 8 minutes left in the game. Today’s team made last year’s team look like a championship squad. Mario Williams was schooling Thomas, Chud was calling Edwards’ number repeatedly to dare him to catch something, the secondary was as porous as any I’ve seen and KWII was fairly invisible. Maybe this happens against the Colts or Giants, but the Texans?

I don’t hate anyone, however I have had enough of this staff.
 So Quinn struggles and gets the pine, and DA gets 23 games to get his seat on the bench
 This football team for the most part is unprepared, uninspired to play football for the most part every week, excluding JAX and NYG.
 How can a defense get pushed around by Sage Rosenfuells or however you spell his name.
 Winslow has had about what 5 or 6 offensive pass interference calls against him this year.
 Braylon is unmotivated and really could give a crap.
You know the players will say all the correct sound bites " we played hard" just couldn’t punch it in when we got inside the 20" " I take full responsibility" ( and that is not from Braylon), " We need to come out more focused". The whole book of BS sound bites. Bottom line this team lacks direction and leadership. This begins at the top with Lerner. He needs to make his investment accountable, and he is failing.
 This team is a joke, embarassment is to soft of a word for this team.
So what Brown or management personnel says something stupid this week?

Romeo and Derek

Edwards now admits he is playing lousy.

I hate the read and (don’t) react vanilla no blitz, no pass rush defensive scheme we insist on running.

I hate that Crennel changes QBs several games too late yet yanks Quinn for one poor half. Is Anderson sucking Crennelephant off in the locker room?

I hate that I puked in my mouth a little bit while watching this game.

I hate that we make Lions and Chiefs fans feel lucky that they don’t live in Cleveland

People that have to go:
Romeo
Andra Davis
Fraley and Hadnot
STALLWORTH
Sean Jones if he thinks he should get paid top money, otherwise keep him
Anderson (we can’t have this potential QB controversy lingering)

Guys earning their salaries:
Phil Dawson
Cribbs
Joe Thomas
Eric Wright
Brodney Pool
Shaun ROGERS
Jerome Harrison

The QB switch is inexplicable to me after watching the Quinn press conference, what a dumb move

The defense was pitiful in the first half. Ok in the second.
The offense was ok in the first half. Pitiful in the second.

I’m real mad at Edwards, Lewis, Thomas (worst game as a Brown?), Mel Tucker (how many skinny posts did they hit from the slot? And Sage Rosenfels should never have as good a half as we gave him in the first).

But all this is secondary to Romeo. He has to go. If he is still the coach on Tuesday, I will be surprised and angered. He made a QB change to save his job today. It didn’t work. His leadership is gone. The offense, and particularly Edwards did not give 100% effort. I don’t hate Romeo Crennel. I think he has some strengths. He seems like a good guy. He is NOT a NFL caliber head coach. He must go.

Atlanta is 7-4 and Miami is 6-5 this year following horrible 2007 seasons.

Both of them replacement the management AND coaching staffs. There is no argument for retaining Romeo and Phil.

Quoting Savage, “This is the worst we’ve been.”

I’ll tell you what is upsetting and disappointing to me… This didn’t upset or disappoint me. I’ve grown numb to the team. I remember growing up, I was a huge Browns fan. I still watch all the games, and can probably name 50 of the 53 man roster without looking. But, as I was watching the game today, I found myself checking fantasy stats, I found myself looking at other scores, I found myself looking at my XM. The Browns have passed bad to me and have simply become boring. Don’t get me wrong, I’m rooting for them. But, at this point, it feels much more like an obligation than it ever should be…

Butch Davis vs. Romeo Crennel

Butch and the Browns parted ways after the 11th game of the ’04 season (with a cumulative regular season record 24-35, plus 0-1 in the post-season)

Romeo’s cumulative record is now 24-35 as well but he does not have a loss in the post-season to his credit.

Who took over the worse team, Butch or Romeo? The 2004 team had one more win than the 2000 team.

Robiskie finished the 2004 season with a 1-4 record, which is not a bad guess for the last 5 games of 2008, with or without Romeo. This would represent another 1-game improvement in the team turned over to a new coach, from 3-13 to 4-12 to 5-11.

how cleveland cant decide on a QB. I know Quinn was hurt but he should had never been the starter in the 1st place. D.Anderson wasent playing bad. The WR were just droping everything and he just stop thrwoing towards them. You guys better hope cleveland gets it together next season. also, to any of the people who said baltimore wont win more then 6 games this year(kwoog) 7-4 baby and we got cincy next so lets make it 8-4!

Sorry guys here check this out-http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php it is now draft season.

I hate Randy Lerner, boy needs to stop worrying about his stupid soccer team and put a qualitly product on the field HERE. The fans in Cleveland deserve better and I think that may require a new owner, a new GM, and a new coach. Until they look like a professional football team and play with some fight, I mean my god you’re getting beat at home, at least play angry.

I didn’t want to admit it before, but now I know Romeo needs to go. As much as I hate the word “rebuild” and as much as I think the early successes of Atlanta, Baltimore, etc. will “come back down to earth” soon, he clearly needs to go.

Andra Davis cannot play in this scheme and might be too average to play anywhere. He doesn’t tackle well, he doesn’t hit especially well, he doesn’t cover especially well, he doesn’t stop the run especially well…

I hate that Braylon doesn’t know now or at least didn’t know in the offseason that his success, his team’s success, and getting a ring will make him more of a viable commercial product and a richer man than dressing well and having one successful season ever can. He is broken. Can anyone fix him? I have no idea. The potential is there, but potential doesn’t mean crap.

Either DA or Quinn needs to go. No more switcheroo.

Every LB besides Hall, Jackson and Wimbley needs to go. Those three are decent, should be told they have to earn their starting spots/roster spots, and still have a chance to be good. It would be darn near impossible to get 3+ quality LBs in one offseason, though.

Cousin.

Mel Tucker. I have no idea if he is running Romeo’s scheme, calling the plays, etc. but what he is doing is not working as well as it should. We got in Trent Edwards’ head, looked decent at times on D on Monday, but still ended up allowing 27 points. 16 isn’t that bad in today’s loss, but you would love to see us dominate a guy like Rosenfels. We didn’t. We don’t get the ball back quick enough to the offense, especially at key times of the game. I wouldn’t trust our D to stop a 4th and 1 to win the game unless the other team ran the ball at Rogers. We don’t have the most talent in the league on D, but the schemes are making our players worse, not better. Great coordinators can get more production out of less talent. Tucker is not.

ur right about the tremendous wasting of talent by Bill Cowher in Pitt., though there is no doubt that RAC needs to go after yesterday’s inexplicably bad performance. Benching BQ is inexcusable as is the lack of basic defensible fundamentals that should come from a “defensive specialist.” From what I’ve heard on the radio, RAC is one hour late for his press conference and has never been late in four years.

The reason for the lateness of the press conference: “The meetings ran late.” I wonder what they were discussing: how bad the defense was or how dumb it was for him to bench quinn.

Quinn’s tendon is damaged, too. That’s bad.

Hopefully it doesn’t need surgery, and if it does hopefully he only needs like 4 weeks off. The more chemistry he can get with guys in the offseason, the better. No one on offense will be relaxing in Hawaii this year so they’ll have plenty of time to run routes in Berea.

Are there any free agent WRs out there?

I’m a bit confused. I saw several posts talking about how Lewis and Thomas stinking it up.

Granted, I’ve been pretty frustrated with Lewis’ tip-toe to the LOS this year, but in this last game he had 5.8 YPC. Yes, he fumbled, but I don’t recall that being a chronic problem with him. He’s probably better in that department than a lot of other RBs. His comments to the press are another matter, but I didn’t see that mentioned in the posts that ragged on him.

Thomas. Did he give up sacks on Quinn? No. Did he give up sacks on Anderson? No. Well, he did get that holding penalty. Is that an NFL 1st for a left tackle? No.

I guess my point is, there are a lot of truly horrible things about the 2008 Browns to hate, we should be able to stick to the truly hate-worthy things.

What do I hate? So many things have been covered already and I don’t want to repeat them, but one thing that doesn’t seem to have gotten its due is the offensive play calling. Every since Chud came out with his “Let’s throw long repeatedly in this really strong wind” game plan in Cincy last year I’ve been wondering if maybe he shouldn’t be subjected to some drug testing.

To be sure, for most of the season there’s only been one potentially pro-calibre WR on the field for most of the season, and he’s more likely to drop passes than a $2 hooker is to drop her knickers, but that doesn’t fully explain the reluctance to use some of the other weapons available.

I hate Chud.

I hate the same people I’ve hated for a long time:

Art Modell
The Baltimore Ravens
The Pittsburgh Steelers
John Elway
The Denver Broncos
Announcers who call an end-around a reverse and call a reverse a double reverse
Michigan
The New York Yankees
Onions
Mushrooms
People who drive while talking on the cell phone
People who don’t signal their intention to turn or change lanes

I don’t hate the Browns. I don’t hate Braylon Edwards, Crennel, etc. Am I disappointed? Yes, but I can’t hate my team and their players.

Just wanted to say that I appreciate all of the great contributions you guys have been making, even with another down season. I’ve had less time in my schedule to write weekly content the past several weeks, but all (well, most, lol) of your guys’ community discussions/bonding have made this site grow tremendously.

Thank you for the dedication — I know some of you have sent your thoughts to me in emails too. Even if I didn’t respond to your email, please know that I read it and considered everything suggested.