A Look Ahead to the Offseason
Now that Brady Quinn is out for the season I decided to look at what the Browns offense needed to change this offseason. It started out a lot smaller but kind of took off on me. I will try and do a defense look in the next couple of days if everyone would like.
Here goes...
Quarterback
Quarterback; The Browns are very young at QB. Changes will be made at this position this offseason.
Derek Anderson (2008 Salary; 8 million) 25 Years Old; I think we all agree that Derek Anderson will be traded this offseason. If Matt Schuab and A.J Feely can get draft picks in return, Derek should be able to get the Browns at least a 3rd, maybe a low 2nd. We all should be pulling for the "Good D.A" to show up these last couple of games.
Brady Quinn (4.3 Million (Still getting bonus money)) 24 Years Old; The Browns have to let Brady Quinn take control of this team. His benching last week was one of the worst coaching moves I can remember. It served the future of the Cleveland Browns no help what so ever. If it makes anyone feel any better, I believe it was the final nail in Romeo's coffin. I fully expect Brady to be next years starter no questions asked.
Ken Dorsey (785 K) 27 Years Old; This is a steal. Ken Dorsey has been Brady's mentor since he has gotten here in Cleveland. A third QB is almost never called upon in a game. And if he is, your probably screwed anyways. I think it is a near lock that Dorsey will be back in Cleveland unless the new management drafts a young QB.
Free Agency help; Rex Grossman, Kyle Boller, or J.P Losman. These guys have some starting experience and would know from day one that they are back-ups. Would probably come on the cheap and would be a better insurance policy than say a Brad Johnson.
Draft help; Before anyone says why should we draft a young QB when we have a young QB ready to take over, this is what good teams do. Young QB's are always a wanted commodity in this league. Just because a team drafts and develops a young QB doesn't mean that team has to play him. We can call this the Matt Schuab effect. The Browns can look for a guy late with big upside. Curtis Painter, Dan LeFevour, and a wildcard Rhett Bomar. A kid that was the top HS QB but was kicked out of Oklahoma for accepting payments for a job he did not attend. He has all the tools and has put up good numbers at Sam Houston State. These guys would all be around in the 5-6 round range.
Prediction; The Browns will try and sign a veteran QB for low money and then draft a young QB and keep him as the "emergency QB". Ken Dorsey retires and starts his career as a QB coach.
Running Back
Running Backs; A position that needs to be looked at this offseason. You could even make an argument for a major overhaul.
Jamal Lewis; (6.5 Million) 29 YO I have already made my case for Jamal Lewis being benched. He has looked slow and uninterested and a major waste of money. If I were the GM I would cut Jamal Lewis this offseason. He doesn't even interest me as a goal line power back anymore. We all know what happens to a RB when they hit 30. And this one sucks now.
Jerome Harrison (449 K) 25 YO. I think the future is bright with this kid. He is explosive and is always making plays for this team when given the chance. He is still cheap and young. I think that he will have a much bigger role in the offense with a new coaching staff. A game changer.
Jason Wright (933 K) 26 YO. I would not be surprised to see Jason Wright in another uniform next year. He does nothing well and nothing poorly. A decent number three RB, nothing more. Is supposed to be the third down back on this team, yet has brought nothing to the table this year. 12 carries and 8 catches for the season.
Free Agency Help; There is not much help at this position this offseason. I like Fred Jackson from Buffalo but he is Restricted Free Agent so it remains to see how high the price would be. I assume that the Bills would place an offer to Jackson and I don’t think any team will be willing to give up a draft pick for Fred Jackson. Other than that Ricky Williams is listed as a FA, as is Maurice Morris. None of those guys seem like an upgrade over Jamal, so like I said not much help in the FA pool.
Draft Help; Here is where the Browns can get healthy. Look around the league this year and see how many rookie RB’s are making a difference. Steve Slaton, Ray Rice, Matt Forte, Felix Jones (before he got hurt), among others. By the way, out of those players, only Felix Jones was taken in the first round. The NFL has shown that productive runners can be found late in the draft. For as much as I love Chris "Beanie" Wells, I would pretty upset if the Browns take him in the top 10. The kid I love is LeSean McCoy from Pittsburgh. He doesn’t have the size of Wells (who does?) but has a huge upside. He is explosive and can catch the ball out of the backfield. Could possibly be there in the early second round. Others I like in the 2-3 round range; C.J Spiller, Clemson, has amazing open field moves and can also catch, although he is undersized. James Davis, Clemson, is the hammer back and has no problem running between the tackles yet has the speed to take it the distance. Other guys to keep an eye on, Keiland Williams and Charles Scott LSU, DeMarco Murray Oklahoma and Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern. I like Javon Ringer as much as everyone else, but Michigan State is running him ragged. I worry about his workload at such a young age. Could break down well before the magic 30 YO barrier.
Prediction; The Browns look to the draft for help at this position, but not in the first round. I think the draft is very strong at other positions and will push a very good RB down to the second round. The Browns will make a value pick that also makes a ton of sense in the second round. Could be the starter from day one like a Matt Forte if he is well rounded.
Full Back
Full Back; A position that is supposed to be a dying breed in the NFL, yet the Browns are stacked.
Lawrence Vickers (447 K) 25 YO. I love this kid. I think he is very under rated as a blocker and has decent hands. Should have gone to the Pro Bowl two years ago. Has been hurt some this year and the running game has not been as good as last year. He is also able to used as a hot read for the QB and can run over smaller defenders. Will be back.
Charles Ali (475 K) 24 YO. Was kind of a surprise addition to this roster at the start of the year and has proven to be a valuable addition to this team. Has filled in for Vickers when he has been hurt and is a very good blocker. Showed decent hands in the MNF win over the Bills catching a slant that made Braylon Edwards jealous. I expect the Browns to bring both back unless the new coaching staff decides to install a different offense.
Free Agency/Draft Help; The Browns will not be looking to add anything to FB.
Prediction; Vickers and Ali will both be back.
Wide Receiver
Wide Receiver; A position that the Browns thought would be a strength has been one of the most disappointing units in all of the NFL.
Braylon Edwards; (5.45 Mil) 25 YO. Where to start? The drops? The lack of concentration? He has been the most frustrating part of this team in my opinion. He has the tools to be the most dominant WR in the NFL. He can run, jump and RAC with the best of them. I think he does have rabbit ears though. The first sign of bad news or boos, he seems to try to make the amazing play often forgetting to catch the ball. That being said, I think that Braylon will have a big year next year. The QB position will be settled from day one, and he will have a clean slate. Maybe I am being naïve, but I think that BE will once again be a dangerous game changer in 2009.
Donte Stallworth; (5.15 Mil) 28 YO. A monumental waste of money. I am not being overly negative here either. In March of 2009, Stallworth is due a roster bonus of 4.875 Million dollars. In other words, last year Donte Stallworth signed a one year contract with the Browns with a t 4.875 Million dollar team option. I would be shocked if the Browns kept him at that price. He may re-do his deal to stay here in Cleveland, but I wouldn’t count on it. I am guess he is cut with a small cap penalty in the 200K range. Cutting Stallworth would free up close to 5 million dollars in cap room.
Joe Jurevicious; (FA) 33 YO. Joe will be a FA at the end of the season and has said he would love to come back for one final season. I think the Browns will bring him back at the vets minimum. Good guy to have around.
Josh Cribbs; (645 K) 25 YO. Has proven that he is a steal at that price and may want to re-do his deal this offseason. I think the Browns will keep him around. He did not have the breakout season I envisioned for him at the WR position. He has been hampered all year by the early high ankle sprain. He has not shown the same burst from last year. Still one of the best ST players in the world. Will be back.
Syndric Steptoe; (300 K) 23 YO. Was thrust into the starting lineup this year with the injuries suffered in the WR department, and he did nothing. Other than a long catch and run against the Jaguars, he did nothing. Don’t see him back.
Steve Sanders; (295 K) 25 YO. A practice squad player. He is cheap and young. Other than that I don’t have much.
Free Agency Help; Houshmandzadeh will be tagged and Colston will either be tagged with the highest tender possible or re-signed. Other than that the only two names I see that is of any interest would be Bobby Engram, yes the same Bobby Engram that is old and was hurt this year, and Lance Moore who is really playing well this year in New Orleans and would look nice next to BE.
Draft help; Michael Crabtree is not human. At 6-3 and 210 he is the same size as Braylon Edwards. I think he will go top 10 so the Browns may not have a chance to take him. Jeremy Maclin and Percy Harvin are both small, but very QUICK WR’s in the Steve Smith mold. Both are electric with the ball in their hands. Think of Ted Ginn with more experience catching the ball (Ginn was a CB in HS). Both would be risky picks but could pay off. Later on in the draft 2-5 rounds range are Brian Robiskie of tOSU, Pat White of WVU, a kid I love is Mike Jones at ASU pro style offense and has been very good, and Jaison Williams of Oregon is HUGE 6-5 240. Think Vincent Jackson.
Prediction; I think the Browns cut Stallworth and Sanders and look for a big-time replacement. Could it be a Chad Johnson, if he is cut? They won’t trade for him. There are always quality WRs on the market after teams make cuts, but the Browns do need to look forward and see if they can groom a young dynamic WR to play on the other side of BE. If not the first round, maybe they go after a FA, like a Lance Moore and take a flier on a Videl Hazelton from USC late in the draft. A kid with a ton of potential, who just couldn’t get on the field at USC. Look for a young WR and a veteran WR to be added to the roster next year.
Tight End
Tightends; Maybe the deepest position on the whole team.
Kellen Winslow; (5.6 Mil) 25 YO How is K2 still only 25 years old? I know there are some out there that say the Browns would be better without Kellen. I think those people are crazy. 100 catch TE’s that are walking mis-matches on defense are not just growing on trees. Is he a loudmouth at times? Yes. But he is also the most money player on the offense? Hell Yes. You build around players like K2 not ship them off. As long as he is not demanding a huge new contract, the Browns will be fine with him. If he is demanding a new deal, then the Browns can look at a deal. But they will not receive equal value for a player like Kellen.
Steve Heiden; (1.95 Mil) 32 YO How many teams in the NFL pay their top two TE’s a combined 7.5 million dollars? Heiden is a very good back-up TE. He does all the small things that this team asks of him and more. He doesn’t bitch and he always seems to get the first down. That said, he is older and has a hot-shot rookie on his heels. The saving grace may be that he and Rucker don’t play the same game.
Darnell Dinkins; (FA) 31 YO Simple a ST player and a blocker. Was kind of surprised he made the team this year and the same can be said for next year. Will be a FA at the end of the year.
Martin Rucker; (771 K) 23 YO I have never been so excited about a player taken in the third round before. If you watched this kid at Mizzou you know what I am talking about. He is a cheap version of Dustin Keller. Keller has more speed but I liked Ruckers hands better. He is a decent blocker but the passing game is where he makes his name. Once he gets going in this offense, you will be happy that you waited for him. I really think that he can make a huge impact on this offense next year.
Free Agency/Draft Help; None. The Browns will not be looking for TE
Offensive Tackle
Offensive Tackles; A Hall-of-Famer, a worthless back-up, one with a bad knee/hip/lower body, and one who forgets to block at times.
Joe Thomas; (8.8 Mil) 23 YO. Just a bad ass. I know he has not been a good as he was last year, but he has been missing his partner Eric Steinbach for a couple of games which doesn’t help. He will be back and at Honolulu next year.
Kevin Shaffer; (3.3 Mil) 28 YO. Has been unsteady to say the least. He is better run blocker than pass blocker. He seems to struggle with teams that employ two speed rushers, like he will see against Indy this weekend. He is affordable at 3.3 million, which may just end up saving his job.
Isaac Sowells; (451 K) 26 YO. This guy has been a waste of a roster space since he was drafted. I will crap myself if he is back with this team next year. Then again, I said the same thing last year.
Ryan Tucker (3.6 Mil) 33 YO. I love Tuck. He has been a rock for this franchise. He is a MONSTER at RG, but he has not been able to stay healthy. I think the Browns will have to cut Tucker this offseason, or bring him back at a much lower salary. I think Tucker would like to stay, he has said nothing but good things about the Browns franchise the past two years, and he may feel like he owes it to the franchise.
Free Agency Help; There are some nice names, Tra Thomas, Mark Tauscher, Jon Runyan and Marc Columbo for example. But those guys are all old and I am not sure that they are a step above Kevin Shaffer. I guy I would like to look at is George Foster. Was a starter in Denver then went into Shanahan’s dog house and was shipped to Detroit where he currently is and would be a nice cheap back-up that has starting experience. Something that Sowells doesn’t have.
Draft Help; The draft is very deep with young athletic tackles. Don’t be surprised to see three go in the top 8-10 picks. The Browns won’t be looking for one that early. But if one is around in say the third round, I think the Browns will jump at the chance. The guy I am looking at is Phil Loadholt from Oklahoma. He is gigantic. At 6-8 350 he would be maybe the biggest player in the NFL. I think he would be a great RT/RG and would be a man to run behind for the next 7 years. Also I like Eric VandenHeuval is a very good run blocker.
Prediction; The Browns bring back Tucker at a reduced salary, and cut Sowells. They then draft a young guy in the mid-rounds to groom to take over from Shaffer in a year or two. Tucker competes with Shaffer at RT and could see time at RG if he is healthy. They pass on everyone in Free Agency.
Offensive Guard
Offensive Guards; A bad-ass, an oft-inured journeyman, a mis-cast center and roster filler.
Eric Steinbech; (7.6 Mil) 28 YO. Outside of Joe Thomas this guy is the most important OL on the Browns. You could make an argument the Steinbach is more important because of the leadership and Thomas seems to lean on him for advice and blitz help. As long as he can stay healthy Steinbach has a long future ahead with the Browns.
Rex Hadnot; (3.95 Mil) 26 YO. I think Rex is a very good interior lineman. He can play Center or Guard. He has 65 career starts going into this weekend at the age of 26. That is real nice. I can see the Browns signing another guard this offseason and moving Hadnot to center or keeping him at guard. Either way, he needs to find a home at one of these spots and stay there because I think he has a real chance to grow and be a beast. Very strong.
Seth McKinney; (FA) 29 YO. I think that McKinney is nothing more than a back-up A nice back-up, but still a second string type of guy. He is a free agent this offseason. If he wants to come back for the same price I am sure the Browns would welcome it. Maybe he still fancies himself a starter. If he does, he won’t be back in Cleveland.
Scott Young (526 K) 27 YO/Lennie Friedman (773 K) 32 YO. I am putting these two guys together because I view them as the same player. Friedman was a nice blocker on ST, but other than that has done nothing of interest. Young hasn’t seen the field unless I am forgetting something. Both could be gone if younger, cheaper alternatives can be found.
Free Agency Help; The Browns will be looking for a back-up. The only name that looks remotely interesting is Richie Incognito and he will probably want to start. Look for the Browns to re-sign McKinney.
Draft Help; Once again, I doubt the Browns will be looking guard early, but should be looking mid-to-late rounds much like the tackles. Maybe steal a guy late and develop him to replace Hadnot when he moves to center in a year or so. Guys I like are Anthony Parker from Tennessee has been a bright spot for a bad team. I like Herman Johnson from LSU but he should be gone by the time the Browns will be looking at OG. Also Wisconsin has a nice duo at guard with Andy Kemp and Kraig Urbik. Both could be Browns late in the draft.
Prediction; The Browns will keep McKinney and draft a youngster to play ST and learn from Eric Steinbach. Unless a big name Guard is cut, I would look for the Browns to go into next year with Steinbach on the left and Tucker and Hadnot battling it out at RG.
Center
Center; A position that could use some change.
Hank Fraley; (1.6 Mil) 31 YO I think that Fraley is done as a good center. He is a captain so I know that the Browns front office an coaching staff see him as a leader. I am not so sure that the new coaching staff will think the same thing. He still has two years left on his four deal and is not that expensive. If the Browns don’t think they can find a better C on the market, they will keep him. The wildcard here is if the Browns believe like I do that Rex Hadnot is a better Center at this point in time than Fraley. They could then replace Fraley with a center or a guard. Possible, yes, but I believe Fraley will be back with the Browns for one more year.
Free Agency Help; None. Unless someone gets cut there isn’t a decent center on the market.
Draft Help; Centers are not usually known for going high in the draft, but Alex Mack from California could change that. He could go in the top 15-20 picks. I also like Antoine Caldwell. He is a little small but has a ton of experience and is a very smart player. Eric Wood from Louisville was All-BigEast last year and will repeat this year. Big strong kid that could drop to the 5-6th round.
Prediction; If the Browns find a young Guard and Tackle in the draft, I doubt the will also draft a Center. After all the young Guard could push Hadnot to Center. I am willing to bet the Browns add a young Guard and consider Hadnot the back-up center. Ryan Pontbriand is still listed a center, but is nothing more than the best long-snapper in the NFL.
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Wow, only got halfway through this. Will have to finish up later, nice job.
Question: Has Pat White announced, or is it a just a scouting foregone conclusion, that he’ll be a WR on Sundays? Watching him run a bit during this afternoon’s game, and I couldn’t help but thing that he could be a dangerous weapon as a WR, considering his size and speed, with the ability to throw the ball on some option plays.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
I’m pretty sure it is just a foregone conclusion.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 28, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
BTW, hope you don’t mind the extra bold headings I threw in there. I thought it might make it easier for people to distinguish each section.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 28, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think it looks good. Thanks for the addition.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 28, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
First, I would like to say that its great to see something like this.
Second, I don’t think we have cap problems. We can probably go after one big FA, have money to sign our picks, and still have some room to re-do some deals. Stallworth and Lewis should not be cut to make roster room or to get us further under the cap. We have cap room, and the even MORE useless guys beneath them on the depth chart can be cut.
QB: We shouldn’t draft one unless he is a late round guy and has big upside. He should “fall” to us if we pick one, and he should be the best player available. Dorsey/Cribbs are adequate 3rd guys, and if we pick up a FA to be the backup, I will be fine with not drafting a guy. Good teams don’t let the fact that they already have a good QB keep them from drafting one. That is much different than actively looking for new QBs. We must feel like we are getting a great deal if we draft a QB.
RB: Make no mistake about it, the current administration wants a big, bell cow back. I don’t think we will look at McCoy too hard. I think McCoy will be good, but I am not sure how good. He will go higher in the draft than he should if he has a good combine because he is a big name. You can find smaller guys who are fast in the later rounds. There are a bunch of RBs who COULD come out this year, but a lot of them would be early entries. The strength of the class will highly depend on who comes out and who stays. We could use someone though, bigtime. Wright is a waste of roster space.
WR: We might cut him, but I don’t know what we were thinking if we were relying on him to really be a force for us. We miss JJ BAD. WRs typically take a year or two to develop, and we should look to draft one who can catch.
OT: Shaffer always plays better next to Tucker. I think he would make a better RG or LG than OT, but he won’t play there. I am fine if he goes but would rather cut Sowells first. We should look for a monster who could be a good deal.
OG: With Tucker able to play here, we are awesome. Friedman/Young can go and drafting a big guy would be just fine with me.
OC: Centers who are going to be great go early, but there aren’t a lot of those prospects. Don’t be surprised if Mack slips to the 2nd round, despite his popular name (thanks to Nickelodeon). I would be OK if we drafted him with our 2nd rounder, but we can find a guy at C who can play in the 3rd round or later. Fraley is a good guy, but I don’t know if he is playing his best football right now.
The bulk of our needs are on D. Our offense just needs to remember how to play, and JJ needs to remember how to have a healthy knee.
I’m definitely partial to Sutton, and he could be a second day steal, but he can’t stay healthy, which totally breaks my heart.
There are lots of Big 10 RBs who coulbe coming out this year and who can be really good in the NFL. Why are you so partial to Sutton?
‘Cause he’s a wildcat. Also, he’s a total stud and can run wild on anybody and is a great receiving threat as well. Athletic, shifty, versatile… just can’t stay on the field.
he’s a full-grown stud, but w/ the injuries and the 5-9/205 listing in the program he just seems like too much of a risk to me.
by the way, don’t be surprised to see A TON of the underclassmen considering turning pro actually do so. this next draft is going to be the last one w/o a rookie salary scale.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 30, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Beanie Wells has already decided to go pro because of the salary scale issue.
As for Sutton, he is just too small and injury prone to be worth anything of value right now. I loved him coming out of high school, but he was not a Big Ten kind of guy. Much too physical for him.
Yeah, when you make a statement like that, you should preface it with “I think” or “I assume”. If you say he’s already decided something, that implies you either heard a quote from him or talked to him yourself.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 2, 2008 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Beanie Wells may be going pro, but I doubt it has much to do with the salary scale issue. I’m pretty sure he would be going pro no matter what was happening with rookie pay in the NFL. Juniors who are a lock to be top 10 picks in the draft turn pro, especially running backs who usually have a shorter shelf life in the NFL because they can only take so many hits.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 1, 2008 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Wells would have gone either way, but the rookie pay scale is going to be huge this year. There is going to be a record for underclassmen this year. Peter King mentioned it in his column today
Yes, I read that column and I don’t disagree. My point was that Wells was going anyways, as you said.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
When is the rookie scale coming in to play? I thought the CBA didn’t expire for another 2 years, and that there would be one uncapped year (2010, not next season but the season after)? Wouldn’t rookies in that year not be on any sort of scale?
Can you guys link this article?
Can Chris hire a salary-cap expert?
I think it goes something like this.
Next year is covered in the CBA. So the kids that are rookies next year (2009), will still be able to get the crazy bonus money that some receive now.
2010 on the other hand will not be under the CBA, the dreaded uncapped year. The rookies will not have a “set” pay scale like they do now. (I think it is something like 5% more than what the same pick received the year prior). The Owners and some players want a NBA style Rookie pay scale. Low pay for the first deal. Making the players perform and earn the second huge contract.
So this rookie class would be the last class able to get the huge money. So it will be filled with draft eligible sphmores (Micheal Crabtree, LeSean McCoy, etc…) and juniors wanting to get into the last hurrah of big bonuses. Don’t be suprised to see some questionable names thrown in there. Agents will be telling kids that this will be their chance.
Next years draft will probably be very weak because of this.
by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 1, 2008 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
NFL rookies do NOT have a set pay scale now. Their agents AIM to get x% more than the same pick of the previous year or x% more than the last player picked in a range of picks who plays the same position. Sometimes teams don’t want to pay that much, which is why you see holdouts: players want more money, teams don’t want to give it to unproven players, and there is NOT a set pay scale to just get everyone to sign a contract.
So people who come out in this draft will still be signed under the current conditions (no set scale, salary cap) for at least one year. After this draft’s rookies play one year of pro ball the CBA expires? What happens in 2010? I was under the impression that the 2010 season would still be played under the CBA just without a salary cap.
Then for the 2011 season, I thought the CBA runs out which means the NFL is not guaranteed to exist and there could be lockouts, a strike, etc.
…right?
This would mean that basically juniors this year would come out if they think they could get more in 2 years under a salary cap than one year without a salary cap (if this sort of thing factored in to their decision at all).
my impression (i’ll try to follow up on this) is that the current CBA will be VOIDED after this coming season, which would result in the dreaded “uncapped” year in 2010. however, the conventional wisdom is that a deal will get done before the uncapped year, bringing into play a new CBA, which is extremely likely to include a rookie cap.
so, you are right about the parameters as currently contemplated, but the likelihood of a new deal changes the game. again, as far as conventional wisdom is concerned, this is the final “uncapped” draft.
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2008 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Here is King’s quote:
You’ll want to clip and save this one for five months from now, when the NFL draft happens in late April. There likely will be a record number of underclassmen picked in the first round of the 2009 draft. It’s not only because the players are being warned by advisers about the possible imposition of a rookie wage scale in 2010, when the NFL could well have a new collective bargaining agreement in place (I’m very skeptical that there will be a new CBA by then), but also because the senior class stinks.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 2, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
The Browns have so many draft needs they can’t afford to waste a pick on a QB.
If Quinn is your young (and starting) QB, you go with him.
Experienced QBs are moving around all the time and having some success (e.g. Garcia, Pennington, Warner, Favre, Brees). None of the top 9 QBs in the NFL this year were drafted by the team they are currently playing for.
I would argue that the guys I would rank as the “top 9” QBs are not the statistical top 9, which I believe you are referencing.
I would take Brady and Peyton over a lot of those “top 9”, if not all of them. Brees is having a hell of a season. After ~5 years of GMing genius, San Diego remembered that they are supposed to be terrible, and kept Rivers over him. Eli Manning counts as having been drafted by the Giants in my book. Cutler is really good.
Who do you take above those guys if you were having an all-QB draft? I’ll probably take Favre, maybe Romo.
We don’t need to draft a QB, but I have more faith that Quinn will be good than I do in a FA Quarterback falling in our lap.
Practice squad
Do you see potential with Fry at center, and Quarterman with his bulk?

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