Indianapolis Colts vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 12:53 PM EST
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| INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (7-4) | WEEK 13 | CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-7) | |||
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| Date: | November 30, 2008 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Cleveland Browns Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Colts by 4½ |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 43½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Stampede Blue | Announcers |
Dick Enberg & Randy Cross |
The Cleveland Browns' chances for the playoffs are gone, but their opportunity for vengeance remains. Last year, the Indianapolis Colts failed to give an effort in Week 17 against the Tennessee Titans, thereby eliminating the Browns from playoff contention. Whether that means something to you or not, it plays a factor in the emotion of today's game. Maybe not for the players, but for some fans, it does.
Derek Anderson will get the start for the Cleveland Browns after Brady Quinn's season-ending injury last week. The fans at the stadium could boo with every misthrow, but I hope they don't unless it truly is a horrible effort by Anderson. We still need to try to provide a home-field advantage -- it happened against the Giants, so why not against the Colts?
FINAL PREDICTION: Indianapolis Colts 27, Cleveland Browns 20.
Without Bob Sanders, almost anybody can score against the Colts' defense. However, the Colts' offense is back in sync, and with that, Peyton Manning is brilliant at chewing up clock time. By keeping our offense off the field enough, the Colts will come away with the victory.
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 13 as they take on the Indianapolis Colts. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Woooo! Fumble recovery to start the game!
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Browns: DL Ahtyba Rubin, TE Darnell Dinkins, SS Hamza Abdullah, TE Jed Collins, LB Kris Griffin, OG Scott Young, DL Titus Brown, CB Travis Daniels.
Colts: FS Bob Sanders, CB Brandon Foster, LB Buster Davis, DL Curtis Johnson, DL Daniel Muir, TE Jamie Petrowski, C Jeff Saturday, WR Roy Hall
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Yep…good to see we’re including Jason Wright in the offense more o_O
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I bought a new HDTV this week. The Browns have never looked better to me. How did I ever live without it?
From this play-calling, I think its safe that Chud/Romeo don’t exactly have a lot of confidence in DA anymore?
I wouldn’t think that at all. This is the same offensive approach that every single team takes towards the Colts early on when they are minus Bob Sanders.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I still meet people who say they don’t think watching sports in HD is a big deal.
Those people have never watched sports in HD, obviously.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
What?? Are those people blind?
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I was one of them, until I bought an HDTV. The difference is absolutely stunning.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like the running, but you have to mix in a pass before third and long.
Also, why throw a 3 yard pass on third and 8? It seemed to me that was DA’s first option because he looked right to him after the snap, so it’s not like everyone else was covered and that was his only option. If that’s his first read then we have a problem.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
I like the timing of that blitz there…nice throw by Manning.
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Beautiful pass by Peyton Manning, great breakup by McDonald. Tie game.
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Sweet play by McDonald - good to see him contributing
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Lewis is running well so far today. Let’s keep it up!
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We need to mix in some playaction passing though.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Lewis running better than I've seen him in weeks
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Gotta say, offense is running very smoothly so far.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Definitely can be attributed to DA. ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
lol, very generous spot…wouldn’t be surprised if Dungy challenged.
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I love football in November/December. Snow, cold. Love it.
This is shitty weather. It’s a rain/snow/miserable mix. And with the way the team is playing, I’m not surprised if some people didn’t want to come out.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
A shame, but a telling sign of fan frustration.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit, our defender on Dallas Clark ran into the referee.
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Is there some fucking reason we're not capable of getting a man on Dallas Clark?
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
I’ll give you four reasons:
-Marvin Harrison
-Reggie Wayne
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Joseph Addai
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
If the Colts only get three here, this will feel very similar to the last time these two teams met. That was in Browns stadium on opening day a few years ago — the year Kelly Holcomb was named the starter by Butch over Tim Couch. We lost 9-6 on a last-second field goal.
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Surely the rain shouldn’t be keeping people out of the game thread? ;)
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The game’s somehow, improbably, on CBS here in California. so I’m away from the comp.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Justttttttttt barely a stop on third down there. I think the Colts will take the points here, believing that they can beat us in the second half.
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My initial reaction was that he got the tip of the ball in. Great stop by the D.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Now we’re still in danger zone here. I’d actually throw it deep for Edwards.
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Boy, we’ve certainly made the Colts the walking wounded today.
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maybe the should rest their starters.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks to all of those booth reviews in the final two minutes, the first half is lasting as long as usual.
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Heh…this would be funny if we saw a free kick attempt for the second straight week in the NFL.
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so if they believe the colts may call a fair catch and attempt a free kick, wouldn’t it make sense to try and angle this towards the sideline?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
With Brackett and one of the Colts’ starting DTs out of the game, we should keep feeding the RBs the ball. Harrison could use a screen or two, or even just a swing pass to get him out in space.
Play-action deep to Braylon needs to happen sometime, too. He has 0 drops so far (never mind that he only has one or maybe two catches).
DA’s inability to make confident, quick decisions is a little frustrating. I have only seen him progress from one receiver to another once or twice. When he does get through his progression he only seems to be able to look one guy off—unable to get to a third or fourth option.
Fear the golden arches, Peyton
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And DA misses a wide-open Stallworth. Same old Browns.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
it’s awesome that in a lost season for the reality Browns, they have to screw over my Peyton-led fantasy team today.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
Its been a pattern with him all year. This offense was set up with JJ in that role and JJ is an exceptional blocker. Since he’s gone out though, they haven’t modified it at all. Its poor coaching. There has to be an excellent blocking WR that was available at some point. Its not like Steptoe, Sanders, etc. have really been contributing anyhow.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Can we get some better play calling?
Chud just doesn’t seem to have a lot of sense. He’s too predictable one moment, then too cute the next.
Trying to make up for blowing that block
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t we all? And we loved him first!
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Dude is awesome. Hes friggin everywhere today
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
now THAT was some power running
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
look at the bright side, just think what a mindfuck it would have been if we would have won? at least now there’s no question that we’re done.
Game isn’t over yet, fellas. One playaction 70 yard pass to Braylon and this is a different ballgame.
Only if he catches the damn thing
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Time for Romeo to do the right thing and resign.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I know it’s not like we’ve been scoring touchdowns all game, but like rufio said, this one’s no where close to being over. Though, the nail in the coffin usually comes if you give the Colts the ball with a lead.
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Shit I miss Jeff Garcia
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
The Detroit Lions object to that statement.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
stream anyone?
anyone have a web site that is streaming the game?
Bout time, wot?
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Very bummed that Lewis is not able to turn it up in the second half with the touches he’s been asking for.
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Yup. He’s been complaining for weeks but he hasn’t delievered when given the chance.
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not really surprised, though. Jamal has had a few good first halves this year, if memory serves. Yet, he still hasn’t topped 100 yards. He’s best suited for the Jerome Bettis role when the Steelers got Willie Parker. He can play really well in that role. He just isn’t an every down back anymore though. I’d really like to see Harrison take the Parker role on this team for the rest of the season.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sick of seeing passes thrown at the feet of our recievers.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
Jason Wright was in on that play. He waited a second and a half to block and then released. No reason that shouldn’t be Harrison instead.
Yep, I don’t understand the obsession with playing Wright so much today instead of Harrison.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the threat of Wright blocking, not his actual in-game blocking that the coaches like.
Then again, if they didn’t complain about how bad Harrison is at blocking and instead told the media he was awesome at it, they wouldn’t undermine the threat of Harrison blocking.
I know that, but even this is highly conservative thinking. There is no way the difference b/w their blocking equals the difference in their playmaking.
Gentleman... I think we are boned.
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Horrible throw by Anderson there. We’ll be lucky to get the ball back now.
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When DA has to adjust to throw from a high release point, over a big clump of man right in front of him, to a checkdown receiver, he throws the ball right in to the ground.
Not only does this lead to guys NOT being able to get YAC, but they take big hits like Heiden did on that drive, and some throws don’t even get to the target like the one to Lewis.
A guy is WIDE OPEN don’t throw a rocket at his knees.
So much for increasing his trade value.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yep…nothing funner than getting the clock run out on you.
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Wooo!!! The defense finishes their best performance of the season thus far.
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ok...never mind...
yeah, well, i don’t think i really want to watch the end of this game anyway…it is too painful…can we say goodbye to Romeo yet? Please???
Can Anderson have his first game-winning touchdown drive in two years?
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this year, the browns have held the steelers to 10 points, the colts to 10 (currently), the redskins to 14, and the texans to 16… 3 of them at home, all 4 of them losses (as it stands right now).
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR 2008 CLEVELAND BROWNS!
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
Nice way to burn 30 seconds for 5 yards on 2 plays to Jason Wright.
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Happy about a completion, but come on…another pass to Wright (I think).
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You've got to be kidding me.... My GRANDMA could have dodged that rush
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Dorsey looked very good in the preseason this year. Let’s see how he does against a first string defense now…
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F=ma
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Canes fan?!? Really??
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Why? Aren’t you from Ohio?
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m from Ohio. My mom is a huge Michigan fan. My dad is a huge Ohio State fan. I didn’t really care for either team. For some reason, Miami appealed to me.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully. They honestly exceeded my expectations for this season (although yesterday’s game hurt). Randy Shannon has had great recruiting classes and those kids have gotten a lot of playing time to get prepared. Marve and Harris each got some nice PT this year, although I’d really like to see them name a QB and stick with him. I think next year, with the recruiting class coming in, they should be a top 10-15 team and the year after should be a run at a title again.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Neither the ACC nor Big East should get a BCS invite this year. Or make them play Utah and Boise State for the right to get in.
by JulioBernazard on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m pretty familiar with both conferences… and I don’t disagree.
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Four defenders, one receiver…the referees never call defensive interference in that type of mismatch.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t even get mad anymore. Apathy has officially set in
Heads do need to roll on the coaching staff though.
That set in for me a few weeks ago.
I agree that a new coaching staff is needed for next year, but what would firing Romeo really do right now? Is there anybody on the staff that you honestly see as a potential head coach and want to take a look at? I don’t see anybody. If there isn’t anybody truly better there, what purpose does it serve?
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Probably kind of picky, but a play I’ll remember on offense (besides Anderson’s misthrows) came on Cribbs’ attempted run from shotgun. He had a huge seam, but Steptoe completely whiffed on his block. If we convert that, who knows…
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Indeed…he had a nice camp and preseason, but there is no way you can convince me that it was a better decision to keep him over Travis Wilson.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, not an NFL player. The worst 5th string CB on any team is a better football player than him. How he gets any snaps at all is an indictment of this staff.
Little WRs and RBs who can kind of block sometimes (which it all it would have taken on that play) are all over the NFL. We need a few of those guys in the draft.
I agree entirely. Those guys are available in the 5th and 6th round. They become 4th WRs and ST players. More often than not, its worth it to pass over somebody with more talent to get those guys. Guys with 5th round talent don’t often amount anyhow, so why not take someone who can excel at one aspect of football instead?
by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing he just meant “good effort”, probably by our defense of course. I’m sure most people around the league thought we would’ve been killed by the Colts offense.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 30, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
What I meant was
that it was that it was a good effort by your D to completely shutdown the Colt’s offense and force 3 turnover’s. I did watch the game and yes it was an ugly win and I think we we’re lucky to get it. It would have been interesting had Quinn played (who I am a big fan of). Do you guys think he would have much of difference?
by AussieColtsFan on Nov 30, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
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