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Indianapolis Colts at Cleveland Browns, Nov 30, 2008 1:00 PM EST


INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (7-4) WEEK 13 CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-7)
VS.
Date: November 30, 2008 Location: Cleveland, OH
Time: 1:00 p.m. ET
Stadium: Cleveland Browns Stadium
TV: CBS
Favorite: Colts by 4½
Radio: WMMS, 100.7 FM Over/Under: 43½
SBN Coverage: Stampede Blue Announcers
Dick Enberg & Randy Cross

The Cleveland Browns' chances for the playoffs are gone, but their opportunity for vengeance remains. Last year, the Indianapolis Colts failed to give an effort in Week 17 against the Tennessee Titans, thereby eliminating the Browns from playoff contention. Whether that means something to you or not, it plays a factor in the emotion of today's game. Maybe not for the players, but for some fans, it does.

Derek Anderson will get the start for the Cleveland Browns after Brady Quinn's season-ending injury last week. The fans at the stadium could boo with every misthrow, but I hope they don't unless it truly is a horrible effort by Anderson. We still need to try to provide a home-field advantage -- it happened against the Giants, so why not against the Colts?

FINAL PREDICTION: Indianapolis Colts 27, Cleveland Browns 20.
Without Bob Sanders, almost anybody can score against the Colts' defense. However, the Colts' offense is back in sync, and with that, Peyton Manning is brilliant at chewing up clock time. By keeping our offense off the field enough, the Colts will come away with the victory.

This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 13 as they take on the Indianapolis Colts. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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Woooo! Fumble recovery to start the game!

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For some reason, i wouldn’t be happy with “just a win” today.

i want them to completely bitchslap the Colts like they did to the Giants.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Run Run Run Run Run Run Run

 I love it :D

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Browns: DL Ahtyba Rubin, TE Darnell Dinkins, SS Hamza Abdullah, TE Jed Collins, LB Kris Griffin, OG Scott Young, DL Titus Brown, CB Travis Daniels.

Colts: FS Bob Sanders, CB Brandon Foster, LB Buster Davis, DL Curtis Johnson, DL Daniel Muir, TE Jamie Petrowski, C Jeff Saturday, WR Roy Hall

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep…good to see we’re including Jason Wright in the offense more o_O

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I bought a new HDTV this week. The Browns have never looked better to me. How did I ever live without it?

From this play-calling, I think its safe that Chud/Romeo don’t exactly have a lot of confidence in DA anymore?

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t think that at all. This is the same offensive approach that every single team takes towards the Colts early on when they are minus Bob Sanders.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I still meet people who say they don’t think watching sports in HD is a big deal.

Those people have never watched sports in HD, obviously.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What?? Are those people blind?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was one of them, until I bought an HDTV. The difference is absolutely stunning.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Liking the runs, not liking the lack of balance. We are best when we are balanced, and I think Peyton wants to score some points today.

How is Josh Cribbs a better tackler than Andra Davis?

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like the running, but you have to mix in a pass before third and long.

Also, why throw a 3 yard pass on third and 8? It seemed to me that was DA’s first option because he looked right to him after the snap, so it’s not like everyone else was covered and that was his only option. If that’s his first read then we have a problem.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it was a hot route b/c of the blitz.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the timing of that blitz there…nice throw by Manning.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, we… blitzed…

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Horrible tackling once again.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Our defense is terrible!

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice play by McDonald — saved a TD!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful pass by Peyton Manning, great breakup by McDonald. Tie game.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sweet play by McDonald - good to see him contributing

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Showing the Cowher signs.

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant hole by the O-line there.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lewis is running well so far today. Let’s keep it up!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We need to mix in some playaction passing though.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This might be Lewis’ best game all season

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lewis running better than I've seen him in weeks

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Quickest first quarter of the season?

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, 32 minutes!

by Estonianzulu on Nov 30, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

last week’s was pretty quick thanks to Houston’s opening drive.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Harrison sighting.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gotta say, offense is running very smoothly so far.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Definitely can be attributed to DA. ;)

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

doing really well in the red zone

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Nov 30, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, thanks for the spot Zebras.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol, very generous spot…wouldn’t be surprised if Dungy challenged.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Noticed some empty seats

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by Grockcubs on Nov 30, 2008 1:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love football in November/December. Snow, cold. Love it.

This is shitty weather. It’s a rain/snow/miserable mix. And with the way the team is playing, I’m not surprised if some people didn’t want to come out.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A shame, but a telling sign of fan frustration.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice play/tackle from mcdonald coming off a block

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not being facetious, because I agree he’s good in run support, but if only he could cover!

by exposition on Nov 30, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He can, he’s young give him time.

He would be an awesome 3rd CB.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, there you go! Nice play!!

by exposition on Nov 30, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, our defender on Dallas Clark ran into the referee.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there some fucking reason we're not capable of getting a man on Dallas Clark?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ll give you four reasons:
-Marvin Harrison
-Reggie Wayne
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Joseph Addai

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this game could be over by 3:30

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If the Colts only get three here, this will feel very similar to the last time these two teams met. That was in Browns stadium on opening day a few years ago — the year Kelly Holcomb was named the starter by Butch over Tim Couch. We lost 9-6 on a last-second field goal.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not to nitpick but the game you’re referring to was in 2003 I believe. We lost at Indianapolis in 2005 in Week 3 if memory serves… Northcutt had a punt return for TD called back in that one.

by cheech99 on Nov 30, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Surely the rain shouldn’t be keeping people out of the game thread? ;)

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are probably just noticing my absence. My inability to shut my mouth leads me to post a billion times/game.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The game’s somehow, improbably, on CBS here in California. so I’m away from the comp.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Justttttttttt barely a stop on third down there. I think the Colts will take the points here, believing that they can beat us in the second half.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My initial reaction was that he got the tip of the ball in. Great stop by the D.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DEFENSE!!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 2:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Now we’re still in danger zone here. I’d actually throw it deep for Edwards.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boy, we’ve certainly made the Colts the walking wounded today.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

maybe the should rest their starters.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks to all of those booth reviews in the final two minutes, the first half is lasting as long as usual.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

god romeo is an obese man

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Heh…this would be funny if we saw a free kick attempt for the second straight week in the NFL.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so if they believe the colts may call a fair catch and attempt a free kick, wouldn’t it make sense to try and angle this towards the sideline?

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

moot.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what is all this free kick talk? for a 63 yarder in cleveland in the rain?

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, this aint pretty so far, but I’ll take it. Go Browns

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

With Brackett and one of the Colts’ starting DTs out of the game, we should keep feeding the RBs the ball. Harrison could use a screen or two, or even just a swing pass to get him out in space.

Play-action deep to Braylon needs to happen sometime, too. He has 0 drops so far (never mind that he only has one or maybe two catches).

DA’s inability to make confident, quick decisions is a little frustrating. I have only seen him progress from one receiver to another once or twice. When he does get through his progression he only seems to be able to look one guy off—unable to get to a third or fourth option.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Time for some Heiden

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant pick by BMac there.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep, McDonald can’t cover at all.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, relax. You made your rebuttal upthread, and I responded.

by exposition on Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pick by McDonald.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

McDonald making plays today!!!!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PICK! MCDONALD

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fear the golden arches, Peyton

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

And DA misses a wide-open Stallworth. Same old Browns.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That was a really bad throw. If he puts that anywhere in bounds and in that 3rd of the field Stallworth has a shot.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We need a TD here. We haven’t taken advantage of turnovers this year.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it’s awesome that in a lost season for the reality Browns, they have to screw over my Peyton-led fantasy team today.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am sorry you drafted him. Any other year he would have been a great 1st rounder.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

didn’t draft him, traded LT for him.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not horrible. LT also under-preforming.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Steptoe completely misses the block.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Its been a pattern with him all year. This offense was set up with JJ in that role and JJ is an exceptional blocker. Since he’s gone out though, they haven’t modified it at all. Its poor coaching. There has to be an excellent blocking WR that was available at some point. Its not like Steptoe, Sanders, etc. have really been contributing anyhow.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck. Are probably gonna regret not having those 3 points

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can we get some better play calling?

Chud just doesn’t seem to have a lot of sense. He’s too predictable one moment, then too cute the next.

by NM Dawg on Nov 30, 2008 2:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

have i missed it, or is Rogers not really been much of a factor today?

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

there he was, kinda.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he is getting triple-teamed again.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, an LB makes a tackle behind the line!

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and we give it back with a stupid, careless penalty. Standard………

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 2:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it’s not “Class A” Dick, it’s “Division 1”…

WE ARE THE WILDCATS.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mel Tucker looked like Terry Schiavo in that brief cameratime.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man that wind must be evil

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know this is repetative, but Shaun Rogers is a BEAST.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Did Rodgers get a peice of that?

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice catch in traffic by Steptoe.

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Trying to make up for blowing that block

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He honestly might be the worst player in the NFL.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i could be wrong, but if i was calling the plays id just run, ram the ball down their throats with jerome and jamal

by RD74 on Nov 30, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cribbs downs it inside the 5.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

enberg loves him.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t we all? And we loved him first!

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude is awesome. Hes friggin everywhere today

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson put a nice hit on Addai there

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

time to kill some clok, ket the D catch their breath

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now THAT was some power running

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

shit shit shit

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok now i can go about the rest of my day.

by RD74 on Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

knew it would happen eventually. At least I can switch to the Tampa game now….

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OH MY GOD I HATE THIS TEAM!

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I miss Brady Quinn.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rucker was in the game on the dropped Heiden pass.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

4 points is basically Mount Everest for this team to overcome. Game over

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

look at the bright side, just think what a mindfuck it would have been if we would have won? at least now there’s no question that we’re done.

by RD74 on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah, good point

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Game isn’t over yet, fellas. One playaction 70 yard pass to Braylon and this is a different ballgame.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Only if he catches the damn thing

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many 2nd half leads have we blown? Seems like every game..

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

coaching coaching coaching

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Time for Romeo to do the right thing and resign.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

penalty………

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Penalty on the return. Fantastic.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know it’s not like we’ve been scoring touchdowns all game, but like rufio said, this one’s no where close to being over. Though, the nail in the coffin usually comes if you give the Colts the ball with a lead.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Have I mentioned that I miss Brady Quinn?

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shit I miss Jeff Garcia

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny how he’s been a world beater since leaving here.

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Detroit Lions object to that statement.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is a world beater in the west-coast offense, and only in the west coast offense. It suits him perfectly. TB has a great supporting cast for that O.

He had nothing and tried to make him a vertical passer. It was doomed from the start.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

stream anyone?

anyone have a web site that is streaming the game?

by ukcatfan on Nov 30, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

DA couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. I think when he’s on target it’s pure luck (deep ball to Braylon in the Ravens game).

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG RUCKER!

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bout time, wot?

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey, good for Rucker

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rucker!! Nice catch.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice catch by Rucker.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Rucker debuts. Maybe he can teach Braylon that whole "catching " thing

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rucker: “My first play and they target me!”

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was already in on the heiden drop before the DA fumble.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see Rucker finally get some action

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

man, Harrison would have busted EITHER of those wholes for 8-9

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“holes”

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it’s like Lewis was looking for a brown jersey to run into.

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by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Heiden = victory

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very bummed that Lewis is not able to turn it up in the second half with the touches he’s been asking for.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup. He’s been complaining for weeks but he hasn’t delievered when given the chance.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not really surprised, though. Jamal has had a few good first halves this year, if memory serves. Yet, he still hasn’t topped 100 yards. He’s best suited for the Jerome Bettis role when the Steelers got Willie Parker. He can play really well in that role. He just isn’t an every down back anymore though. I’d really like to see Harrison take the Parker role on this team for the rest of the season.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just can’t hit the broad side of a barn, honestly. bum.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that throw sums up the D.A. era

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m sick of seeing passes thrown at the feet of our recievers.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

even worse when it’s too a wide open receiver 4 yards in front of you.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

14/22 for 95 yards? Really? Blech.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jason Wright was in on that play. He waited a second and a half to block and then released. No reason that shouldn’t be Harrison instead.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep, I don’t understand the obsession with playing Wright so much today instead of Harrison.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course you don’t ;D

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the threat of Wright blocking, not his actual in-game blocking that the coaches like.

Then again, if they didn’t complain about how bad Harrison is at blocking and instead told the media he was awesome at it, they wouldn’t undermine the threat of Harrison blocking.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know that, but even this is highly conservative thinking. There is no way the difference b/w their blocking equals the difference in their playmaking.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The coaches like Wright, I don’t.

He should be cut, but not because of his assignments because he just sucks.

Harrison should have 8 more touches at this point in the game.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gentleman... I think we are boned.

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by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Horrible throw by Anderson there. We’ll be lucky to get the ball back now.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

When DA has to adjust to throw from a high release point, over a big clump of man right in front of him, to a checkdown receiver, he throws the ball right in to the ground.

Not only does this lead to guys NOT being able to get YAC, but they take big hits like Heiden did on that drive, and some throws don’t even get to the target like the one to Lewis.

A guy is WIDE OPEN don’t throw a rocket at his knees.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So much for increasing his trade value.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

was looking good after the first 7 of 7 completions.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Back when our runs were picking up 4 ypcarry, we could give him those throws. Now that our runs are only getting 2-3 yard gains….

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They should just let him throw deep. What is there to lose at this point?

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huge penalty. Gives them free 8 downs, practically. Tic toc.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“6 downs”

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I should have played the Colts D today. I thought we would look better than this.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Romeo, having no idea what to do.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not supposed to be a reply

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep…nothing funner than getting the clock run out on you.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wooo!!! The defense finishes their best performance of the season thus far.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damnitt, you beat me to it.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ok...never mind...

yeah, well, i don’t think i really want to watch the end of this game anyway…it is too painful…can we say goodbye to Romeo yet? Please???

by ukcatfan on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not till the offseason at least.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Our defense has allowed 3 points today, and they are making some big stops in big situations. Too bad the O didn’t come to play.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chances of DA driving for a game winning TD in two minutes with two timeouts?

10? 2?

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone take me up on 5-1?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does it count if Cribbs runs this back?

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I was talking percentages…

I think I’d do a hundred bucks on those odds (not going to, of course, but i "would").

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Anderson have his first game-winning touchdown drive in two years?

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Two timeouts, let’s go…

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this year, the browns have held the steelers to 10 points, the colts to 10 (currently), the redskins to 14, and the texans to 16… 3 of them at home, all 4 of them losses (as it stands right now).

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR 2008 CLEVELAND BROWNS!

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent insight.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cut Jason Wright tomorrow.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

pass to wright thrown below his waist, no chance for RAC.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the second was to Wright with double coverage short of a first down for 4 yards.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice way to burn 30 seconds for 5 yards on 2 plays to Jason Wright.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are we sure that Harrison isn’t injured? There is no reason for him not to be in for this…

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was banged up about 2 weeks ago.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Happy about a completion, but come on…another pass to Wright (I think).

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are correct.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Edwards? This is when he needs to step up.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is honestly the worst coaching staff I’ve ever seen. Davis sucked as a GM, but this coaching is just unreal.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

THROW THE BALL AWAY

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eh, he had no time there. Still, any non-statue could have easily side stepped that.

Can someone teach Wimbley to bullrush?

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that’s what I meant: move and throw it away.

Yes, someone could probably teach him. Why no one has? I have no idea.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s shut up Enberg and screw Dung-y.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the Ken Dorsey era?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take it.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here goes the ken Dorsey era :-O

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You've got to be kidding me.... My GRANDMA could have dodged that rush

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shaffer got DUSTED on that play.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 30, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dorsey looked very good in the preseason this year. Let’s see how he does against a first string defense now…

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s leverage and momentum right there.

F=m*v, right?

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

F=ma

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damn derivatives…

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bernie Kosar probably just perked up.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dorsey. Honestly, never thought I’d see this in July… sigh.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You know, I don’t even mind seeing Dorsey come in; he’ll have that “spark” Romeo always seems to be looking for.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As a Canes fan, I love Ken Dorsey. Just not in this situation.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Canes fan?!? Really??

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why? Aren’t you from Ohio?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m from Ohio. My mom is a huge Michigan fan. My dad is a huge Ohio State fan. I didn’t really care for either team. For some reason, Miami appealed to me.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I went to B-W, lived on “Tressel St.” Heck, Jim’s nephew lived in a dorm next to mine. He was such an incredible DB, I’ve never been able to root for them again.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you guys finally going to get good again and bring some respectability back to the ACC?

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully. They honestly exceeded my expectations for this season (although yesterday’s game hurt). Randy Shannon has had great recruiting classes and those kids have gotten a lot of playing time to get prepared. Marve and Harris each got some nice PT this year, although I’d really like to see them name a QB and stick with him. I think next year, with the recruiting class coming in, they should be a top 10-15 team and the year after should be a run at a title again.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Neither the ACC nor Big East should get a BCS invite this year. Or make them play Utah and Boise State for the right to get in.

by JulioBernazard on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty familiar with both conferences… and I don’t disagree.

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s better than every ball thrown by DA today.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We are just one play away from the spread-Cribbs-option offense.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s not interference?!?!

by JulioBernazard on Nov 30, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Would it really matter?

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they threw the interference flag on Winslow there.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha Ha, regardless of whether or not he was on the field officials are instructed to call him for it

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Four defenders, one receiver…the referees never call defensive interference in that type of mismatch.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Helluva defensive performance, though!

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Its not like the Colts are still “the Colts”, but 3 allowed points against a real NFL team? I’ll take that every week.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’d think after all these years, I’d learn not to get my hopes up with this team. Time to go get drunk…

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can’t even get mad anymore. Apathy has officially set in

Heads do need to roll on the coaching staff though.

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That set in for me a few weeks ago.

I agree that a new coaching staff is needed for next year, but what would firing Romeo really do right now? Is there anybody on the staff that you honestly see as a potential head coach and want to take a look at? I don’t see anybody. If there isn’t anybody truly better there, what purpose does it serve?

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

None really. I’m speaking more out of frustration than anything. Nothing can really be done till the end of the year.

by mgtbfb on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense looked good. Great game by McDonald.

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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 30, 2008 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jamal Lewis with 24 carries for 77 yards and just over 3.2ypc.

Jamal over 20 carries ≠ Browns win. There is a correlation there because when we can run the ball that much we usually are able to move it and score points. It is not causality.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Probably kind of picky, but a play I’ll remember on offense (besides Anderson’s misthrows) came on Cribbs’ attempted run from shotgun. He had a huge seam, but Steptoe completely whiffed on his block. If we convert that, who knows…

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Steptoe SUCKS. sucks. Sucks.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed…he had a nice camp and preseason, but there is no way you can convince me that it was a better decision to keep him over Travis Wilson.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilson or even Hubbard could have at least been big and gotten in the way there.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, not an NFL player. The worst 5th string CB on any team is a better football player than him. How he gets any snaps at all is an indictment of this staff.

by kwoog on Nov 30, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and how much we miss JJ.

They should just play Rucker, Vickers, Ali, etc. out of position instead of putting him out there though.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Little WRs and RBs who can kind of block sometimes (which it all it would have taken on that play) are all over the NFL. We need a few of those guys in the draft.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree entirely. Those guys are available in the 5th and 6th round. They become 4th WRs and ST players. More often than not, its worth it to pass over somebody with more talent to get those guys. Guys with 5th round talent don’t often amount anyhow, so why not take someone who can excel at one aspect of football instead?

by Fundamentals on Nov 30, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really, really pathetic.

by ploni on Nov 30, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good game

Unfortunately your “revenge” against the Colts and Dungy will have to wait.

by AussieColtsFan on Nov 30, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would much rather have a W over the steelers or ravens. Good luck this season.

by rufio on Nov 30, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“good game”?

you were obviously nowhere near a television.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Nov 30, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m guessing he just meant “good effort”, probably by our defense of course. I’m sure most people around the league thought we would’ve been killed by the Colts offense.

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by ChrisPokorny on Nov 30, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What I meant was

that it was that it was a good effort by your D to completely shutdown the Colt’s offense and force 3 turnover’s. I did watch the game and yes it was an ugly win and I think we we’re lucky to get it. It would have been interesting had Quinn played (who I am a big fan of). Do you guys think he would have much of difference?

by AussieColtsFan on Nov 30, 2008 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some, but not a whole lot. It might not have taken much in this game, but our offense has been out of sync lately no matter who is back at QB.

by rufio on Dec 1, 2008 11:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does Bartel move up from the practice squad to 2nd string QB or do we sign another QB to move ahead of hime?

Can we get Frye back from the Seahawks?

by palcal on Nov 30, 2008 6:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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