Denver Broncos vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:45 AM EST
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| Date: | November 6, 2008 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 8:15 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Cleveland Browns Stadium |
| TV: | NFL Network (WUAB) |
Favorite: | Browns by 3 |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 46 |
| SBN Coverage: | Mile High Report | Announcers |
Bob Papa & Cris Collinsworth |
From Sunday's preview against the Ravens:
"He [Derek Anderson] was able to evade any Brady Quinn chants the last time he was at home against the New York Giants. Will the same hold true today?"
Apparently not. The fans chanted Brady, and in this case, "ask and you shall receive". A large percentage of the fans were done with this football team after the collapse against the Ravens. With the news on Monday of Quinn getting the start against Denver though, people are going to stick around now to see how things pan out.
Will Quinn start off his career on a high note with a victory? Let's get right into this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...
OFFENSE
| Category | Broncos | Browns |
| Points Scored | 23.75 (12th) | 17.75 (27th) |
| Passing | 268.8 (4th) | 173.1 (26th) |
| Rushing | 105.3 (18th) | 93.6 (27th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 374.0 (3rd) | 266.8 (28th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Broncos | Browns |
| Points Scored | 27.63 (28th) | 20.0 (11th) |
| Passing | 243.3 (27th) | 200.1 (13th) |
| Rushing | 144.6 (26th) | 148.0 (28th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 387.9 (29th) | 348.1 (25th) |
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Quarterback
Jay Cutler has been praised constantly as being one of the best up-and-coming young quarterbacks in the NFL. I definitely like his potential, but he hasn't shown the ability to cut down on the mistakes consistently. In his past 5 games, Cutler has thrown 7 touchdowns with 8 interceptions. During that stretch, the Broncos are a miserable 1-4. Don't get the wrong idea though -- Cutler is the least of Denver's concerns right now, and he is not the reason they are struggling. I can't possibly give the Browns a quarterback advantage here, because Quinn has yet to have a regular season start. |
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Running Back
The Broncos are searching for answers at the running back position. Ever since Clinton Portis left for Washington, the team has failed to acquire a true No. 1 running back. This year, for performance reasons and due to injuries, the team has had to shift through Michael Pittman, Selvin Young, Andre Hall, Peyton Hillis, and Ryan Torain. If you don't follow other teams closely, you may not have heard of any of them. Their true starter this season is Young though, and he is scheduled to return tonight from injury and split time with the rookie Torain. Against Denver's porous defense, Jamal Lewis should break the 100-yard barrier for the first time this season. |
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Receiver
I'm giving the Browns the "even" treatment under the pretense that Donte Stallworth will be active. Otherwise, the advantage would go to an underrated Denver group. While I don't agree just yet with those who think Brandon Marshall is the best receiver in the NFL, he is certainly a fine talent. Cutler also has confidence in rookie receiver Eddie Royal and veteran slot man Brandon Stokley. Tight end Tony Scheffler will catch you napping as well. All eyes will be on Braylon Edwards tonight. He dropped a lot of passes with Anderson at quarterback, but more than that, he seemed to be getting frustrated with Anderson (though that was more so true earlier on in the season). Will Quinn and Edwards be on the same page? I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Sanders, someone who Quinn may have worked with in practice more, gets some snaps if Stallworth is out. |
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Offensive Line
Starting left guard Eric Steinbach is expected to miss this week's game, leaving Seth McKinney to start in his place. That will hurt our pass protection and our running game a little bit, but not so much against Denver's defense. The Broncos keep Cutler protected well, as he has been sacked only five times in eight games. |
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Defensive Line This ranking is under the pretense that both Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams (though Rogers in particular) are healthy. The goal for the Browns today is to find a way to stop the bleeding every time Rogers needs to go to the sideline. Even when he's in the game, opposing teams are running draw plays from shotgun to take him out of the play. The Broncos rack up more sacks than the Browns do on the defensive line, but when Ebenezer Ekuban is starting and you had to try to patch up your mistake of taking former Browns defensive lineman, you're not going to be anything better than average. |
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Linebacker
This is an area the Browns really need to take advantage of against Denver. D.J. Williams, arguably the team's best linebacker, will be out for a month with a knee injury. Former starter Boss Bailey is already out for the season with a knee injury. Lewis has had few opportunities to break through the second unit, so that makes this even more of a golden opportunity for him. If our linebackers were any good, I would've given Cleveland the edge here. |
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Secondary
The Browns' secondary had their worst game since the season opener last week. Eric Wright played solid, but Sean Jones and Brandon McDonald have had their better days. With that said, the Broncos are hurting. They were already facing holes in the secondary before Champ Bailey went down with an injury that'll keep him out for awhile. While Bailey was healthy, teams picked on veteran Dre Bly. It wasn't a good sign for Denver when Bly didn't rise to the occasion. On top of that, starting safety Marlon McCree is also out for Denver. |
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Special Teams
Broncos kicker Matt Prater is one to watch for. Born in Mayfield Heights, Ohio, he has connected on 5-of-5 kicks from beyond 50 yards this season. The Broncos lack the same spark the Browns can provide in the return game with Joshua Cribbs though. Advantage, Cleveland. |
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 34, Denver Broncos 27.
Quinn faced second-stringers in the preseason, and he'll basically be doing the same in this game -- except for the important notion that he'll be working with the first-string offense. I'm expecting a high-scoring affair, with our defense actually looking better than they did in Baltimore. But, with Denver having a more potent offense, they'll come through with several well-executed drives.
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 10 as they square off against the Denver Broncos. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Just fell into a ticket in the west endzone. Beautiful weather and pulled pork in the W. 3rd/Port Authority lot made the choice over watching at home much easier for me.
GO BROWNS!
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
That’s one less commenter on DBN during the game. How dare you!
Have fun :-) I wonder if there will be BRADY BRADY BRADY chants as he comes out of the tunnel and such.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
It’ll be tough to get a lot of in game commenters with the game on NFL network. I have to go out to bars to watch Browns games unless its on national TV (not including NFLN)
The game should be broadcast free on NFL.com.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m in this boat.
Chris is right about the free live NFL.com broadcast though. So, I’m going to attempt to do that instead of going to a bar — I think it’ll be a “fun” game to watch with all you rabble-rousers.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
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I understand your reluctance to go with the Browns having any kind of edge in the QB area. However, I would call it “even”. For one, Cutler has promise but has yet to deliver. He may prove to be more like DA than DA.
Last year, I attended the exhibition game between the Browns and Broncos. The first teamers played into the 3rd quarter. Of the QB’s on the field, Cutler, Frye, Anderson and Quinn; Brady looked the best….by far. Even the Donkeys fans said so and they are usually not kind to the opposition QB. Afterwards, I was certain Brady would be the starter before the year ( 2007) ended. Given the upside for Brady IMO, I might rate this as “Advantage Browns”. I hope he can rise to the occasion.
Oh The People You Meet When Your Out of Ammo.........
I’m very excited about this game. Kinda like the excitement before a season opener, not quite like a meaningful game.
Any word on the injured guys, i.e. which are playing?
Go Browns. Like the prediction of 37pts for Quinn’s first start, no pressure it seems.
21-28 for 224yds, 2 TDs 1 Int… importantly no running around like a chicken with his head cutoff with <2mins, no taking his time with <1min and 0 timeouts… and getting a victory in his first chance as the starting QB by a Brown since the last great Browns QB… Bernie Kosar!
Thanks for the link to the NFL.com free broadcast.
Fact:
The 2008 Cleveland Browns are 1-4 when ChrisPo predicts we will win.
They are 2-0 when Chris predicts they will lose.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Inactives tonight are Eric Steinbach, Lawrence Vickers, Travis Daniels, Hamza Abdullah, Beau Bell, Steve Sanders and Martin Rucker. Ken Dorsey is the third QB.
In case anyone cares, here is Peter King’s prediction:
Denver Broncos (4-4) at Cleveland Browns (3-5)
In a battle of moptopped midwestern high school quarterbacks, Brady Quinn beats Jay Cutler, but not because he’s a better player. Quinn has a defense that gives him a chance.
Prediction: Cleveland Browns 24, Denver Broncos 23
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
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anyone got a peer to peer hookup?
Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder
Wow, an early break on the Prater short miss.
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Weird to hear the name Elam in reference to a Broncos field game. Although, I know I am a little behind on that one.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
….and field GOAL. I fail tonight, it looks.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
They’re doing an awful lot of talking and not a whole lot of showing the damn game.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Cutler certainly isn’t having any trouble with his reads.
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Wow…they’re not screwing around getting the ball downfield
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions
We haven’t shown much defense so far tonight. That isn’t a good sign.
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Setting up Quinn’s first 4th-quarter comeback?
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
My expectations defensively weren’t too high this week.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
the nfl.com feed is like 90% talking and 10% showing the game..i thought they would show the entire game…whats the deal? its like im watching sportcenter highlights
I’m also extremely pissed about this. They’re talking about what they want to see in the game…without actually showing it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Wooo…Cribbs always provides a thrill on special teams. Nice field position for Quinn.
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I wish Edwards had Cribbs’ mentality and passion
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 8:36 PM EST reply actions
SO which ones would you guys rather take Quinn looking like the future and Browns loosing or Quinn looking like a bust and browns winning?
I think we all need to be wary of over-reacting after this game. Can’t get too high or too low on BQ.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Quinn showing what Anderson lacked on that pass to Donte: touch.
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BQ to K2 for the TD — may it be the first of many!
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:41 PM EST reply actions
I love that he can deliver the ball accurately. That is desirable skill in a quarterback.
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 8:42 PM EST reply actions
NFL.COM SUCKS
The TD was awesome but i just dont feel good especially when theres sound delay, its just not the same
Must be your connection. Mine is up to speed…just too bad they’re not SHOWING the damn game
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
There goes Terry Cousin’s first meaningful play of the season.
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YES! Jerome Harrison gets in the game! Look at that quickness too.
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Heh…if he can move the pile for a first down like he did on that last run too, that’s good with me. Also, Seth McKinney had a nice block in the flat on Harrison’s screen.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not a huge Quinn fan, but I love how quickly the ball is coming out of his hand tonight. He’s throwing timing routes well and not waiting for something bigger, just taking what is there.
Harrison again! I love it…I’m almost in tears here.
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Well, it’s fun watching the Play by play at least. ChrisPo, keep it in your pants my man, I know you’re loving it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know if I can resist. Lewis is back in the game now, so maybe it’ll taper off.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think Chris’ idea of porn is looking at pics of Harrison running the ball.
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A screen pass to Jerome Harrison (aka, the Pokorny) is the money shot.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Hell, he doesn’t even need the ball…erm…never mind.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
My goodness, Denver’s defense is LIGHT YEARS worse than Baltimore’s.
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Let’s get Jamal and Jerome over 100 yards a piece and just make this easy on Brady.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Does Dawson have some type of knuckleball on his kickoffs this year? SO many returners have bobbled the ball already this season.
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Good stat of the game: No false start penalties for the offense.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:04 PM EST reply actions
My goodness, another dropped kickoff on a kick from Dawson! This is too often to be coincidences.
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That’s one way to slow him down, I suppose.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Is that funny or scary that D’Qwell Jackson didn’t know who Ryan Torain was yesterday?
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 9:16 PM EST reply actions
Manny works on the see the ball, hit the ball principle. Maybe D’Q works on the see the ball carrier, tackle the ball carrier principle, for which knowing the name of the ball carrier is pretty irrelevent.
Probably a good thing he ended up not getting the sack. He almost contacted Cutler’s helmet, which would’ve been a 15-yard penalty I believe.
Nonetheless, he failed to finish.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Kellen must feel like this is Christmas.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Quinn is looking good, but I’d like to see more completions to WRs in additon to TEs
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions
just looking ahead to adjustments the D will make
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Winslow showing why there’s no way we can trade him in the offseason.
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What IS he doing? it must not be intentional if it’s happening on FGs too
by cleveland teamer on Nov 6, 2008 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly what I was thinking. And I thought Crennel’s time management was bad…
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
In other news..
Ryan Leaf is STILL a huge failure: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3687055
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions
You see. That’s a solid play call on first down. More of that please.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 9:54 PM EST reply actions
Definitely. A first down play with a good end result in mind ahead of time.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty friggin’ awesome.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Cribbs with an electrifying run! Harrison, check. Cribbs, check.
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Brady seems to be a little more nimble and quick than I remembered. I like this.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions
The Broncos are crowding and playing tight inside, and he’s just not quick enough to get to the outside. It should be Harrison to stretch the defense, and then Lewis to give a hard pound when it’s, like, 2nd-and-1.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
NFL.com. http://www.nfl.com/live/landing?icampaign=DW_Live_ClevvsDen_1
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
NFL Network is really sucking this year. This is the most unprofessional game broadcast I’ve ever seen.
Do you not like the announcers too? Or, is it just the other variables? I think Bob Papa is doing a good job compared to some of these other dolts out there.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
You clearly haven’t watched their NFL.com/Live coverage. It’s terrible.
But if you are watching that, then I agree. But I think Cris C. is being less annoying than usual.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Is the game being played? My coverage is showing a long conversation between Wilcots and the guys in the studio
I’m convinced NONE of them are actually watching the game.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not disagreeing. It’s just funny that midway through the third, the No. 3 offense in the league only has 10 points.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit.
Please no. No no no no no no.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:12 PM EST reply actions
When Rogers is screaming bloody murder, something’s definitely wrong.
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Exactly. He was clearly in a lot of pain there.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Apart from rogers’ devastiaation, I haven’t seen a single snap. Does Brady look as good as his box says he is?
Bend-But-Don’t-Break
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Code-named for kept the points to a minimum :D
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
On that last snap, Sean Jones did a great job on the blitz getting the edge on the left tackle. He helped cause Cutler to throw that one up for grabs.
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Cribbs with another teaser.
So far, Harrison, Quinn, and Cribbs are on the <3 list.
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Is this a new category in your Game Reviews?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Jamal for 1-yard on first down has to be the worst broken record in the history of the world.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:20 PM EST reply actions
Rogers is coming back out…sweet, maybe he can get in again.
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It’s nice to have a quarterback with enough touch to successfully throw a screen pass. It’s been so long.
I smell a rare third-down rushing attempt coming up here.
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Haha, wow…I probably would’ve punted there, but it looks like Lewis just got the first down.
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Heyyyyyy. There’s the false start bug.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:25 PM EST reply actions
There’s your first penalty of the game against Cleveland.
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He got rid of it REAL quick there. I like that. Recognition of the blitz and got rid of it in a hurry to an open man.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
You have to admit…for some reason, Cris Collinsworth really has a hard on for the Browns today.
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Yeah he does, makes up for not having Bernie
by Estonianzulu on Nov 6, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Game coverages always seem to show Jim Brown and Bernie Kosar up in a press box/suite, but they always mention Brown only. Today, they finally talked about Bernie.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
oh for FUCKS sake. Third down play and Nfl.com Live don’t even show it. Just stupid.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Yeah…can’t really do that Winslow, lol. We need to eat this one now and get ready to punt. Call a screen to Harrison.
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Followed by a TD to Roya..
Defined: Cruel and Unusual punishment.
by Estonianzulu on Nov 6, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my god they just f’ing cursed us.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
The Broncos have ripped off ten straight points. Need to strike back NOW.
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We draft defensive players, we sign defensive free agents, we promote bright young DC’s.
Why can’t we have a Steelers/Ravens like defense?
Because Romeo Crennel is not Dick LeBeau?
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
This qualifies as the understatement of the game.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Cribbs again! Come on offense, LET’S GET GOING!
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Josh Cribbs should touch the ball every play. And then lateral it to Jerome Harrison.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions
Winslow has cost us on the past two drives. Unbelievable turn of events…UGH.
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Heh…nice reference back to that.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I blame Jerome from not picking up at least 20 yards on that second down play.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
You just know the Broncos are going to come out firing again — likely with success.
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man… my heart doesn’t need this stress
YEAH A SACK
Wimbley with a sack…only because they let him loose. I’ll take it.
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It’s at moments like this that I wonder why we cheer for a football team that literally takes years off our lives every time they play.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions
This is ridiculous…Cutler is throwing up prayers with success.
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17 unanswered. I can’t handle two of these in a stretch of five days…
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Only if Quinn goes 3 and out 3 and out 3 and out 3 and out, stupid interception.
by gentryholdem on Nov 6, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Can we teach DA to play defensive back? Or linebacker?
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
That play. THAT PLAY. Do it every time! Cribbs <3 again.
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I think the defense might catch on after a while, Chris.
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 6, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Okay. They’ve stopped it. We can run something else.
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
well they just did.
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
All right, nice calm throw by Quinn. Heiden with the nice pick, Steptoe helping block. Need that touchdown though.
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I don’t think anyone has doubted his game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is our run offense so terrible that we have to run two reverses in the span of four plays? Yikes.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Well, he was pulling on the run to the right. So we did run behind him.
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 6, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nice, Shanahan using a challenge here. That’ll burn a timeout.
Not that it matters — Cutler is heaving left and right pretty quick.
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34-27 was my pick, but it’d be manageably close.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Unless you were just referring to my prediction of a Win.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
WHY WOULD YOU BRING UP THAT YOU PREDICTED A WIN?!!?!?
We’re doomed.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
We know how to get interceptions, how about we pull down one of those
by Estonianzulu on Nov 6, 2008 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I refute this (See: McDonald, Brandon)
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Piece of cake.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Crap, I’m late. let’s see..WOOO Quinn! hey TD by Jamal! WOOOOO!
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
Let’s forget that you were late to the party and embrace the fact that you showed up at all.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
There, is Kamerion Wimbley. Getting pushed around by a fullback for several yards.
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at least he’s consistent
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Sick hit by McGinest. Another good play for him in this game.
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I think it was clean, to be honest.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Very true. Goddell will fine you if you look at your dinner plate wrong.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
That’s cause he’s the commish of the More Taste League.
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
It probably was clean. It will still probably cost him $20K.
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
4th and 1…what’s the call? I say spread them in Shotgun, and run with Cutler.
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I do not feel good about this, in other words.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
We may have to pull a Texas Tech
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Na, a young guy who is 5/5 from beyond 50 yards.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
All I can hope for is a holding penalty on Denver.
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I swear Marshall was about to do a 15-yard celebration penalty, but his teammates quickly surrounded him and stopped it.
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Even with the election on Tuesday, this ruins my week. Ruins it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:17 PM EST reply actions
We’re facing a porous secondary…come on Quinn, you can do this!
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Nope, I take that back. It was right through Winslow’s hands.
by woodsmeister on Nov 6, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care, McDonald is absolutely horrible. Worst game I’ve ever seen from a DB and I watch a lot of football. Just utterly clueless all night long.
I’m so amazed at how horrible McDonald was, I’m going to reply to myself. Dropped TWO easy picks. Beaten horrible at least 7 times by my count. 93 yard TD. Fucking falls down on another. Stands and watches a receiver run RIGHT PAST HIM on another. Just pathetic.
by gentryholdem on Nov 6, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
This…
There are no words for this shit. How can this shit happen?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 6, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions
I don’t care how good a start he had, Winslow cost us today’s game as much as Edwards did last week. Defensively, McDonald…horrible.
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I’m sorry, but I’m not putting ANY blame on Winslow. McDonald was PATHETIC. He had no business being on the field tonight.
by gentryholdem on Nov 6, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
To not put any blame on Winslow would be to say that his three fourth quarter miscues weren’t a big deal. That can’t be the case — the first two could’ve led to touchdown drives for all we know.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve banned him — he’s had enough.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
BAN
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by Buckeye Brad on Nov 6, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think I need to go straight to bed. I can’t stomach this.
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Winslow – Pass Interference on a first-down, potential scoring drive. Punt, leads to Broncos 93-yard touchdown.
Winslow – Fumble with good field position. Leads to go-ahead Cutler touchdown.
Winslow – Drop on the final offensive play of the game.
I don’t care how many good plays he made before that. His JOB is to make good plays, not the bad ones.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 6, 2008 11:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’m going to harp on another issue — four carries early on to Harrison, and he had what, like 44 yards rushing on them?
Credit to the team for running with Cribbs late, but neglecting Harrison again moronic again.
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feel your pain guys..
that was a terrific game by quinn
too bad your secondary blew it big time….thought the brownies had them there for awhile.
This has to be laid at the feet of the defense. McDonald was awful, he was actually worse than awful. Somehow, Tucker left him on an island, 93 yards from the endzone. Incredible. Winslow played a great three quarters and than an awful one and we failed to score until we had fallen behind in the fourth.
Quinn managed a Couchian 6.83 ypa. However, he protected the ball and madest of the throws we needed him to make. I think he has the arm to go deep and I would be surprised if he didn’t air it out a bit more in Buffalo.
Chudzinski may need to go. His playcalling was creative and aggressive early (Cribbs and Harrison) but turned to nothing but short passes or runs over Thomas late in the game. Only the talent of Lewis and his ability to break tackles got us anything. Crennel needs to go just because I want to make a kneejerk reaction.
This is just sad.
Chudzinski may need to go.
Yes, Chudzinski needs to go because we only put up 30 points with a quarterback starting his first game. Nevermind the implosion of Kellen Winslow, blown coverages in the secondary, and the obvious youth of the quarterback.
Forget completely about last season, the players comfort with the offense, and any other positive.
Chudzinski needs to be fired.
That’s why I said may. You see, it’s a modifier that means the suggestion need not actually happen. If Chud cannot learn from the last two weeks and turn us into an offense that can sustain a meaningful late drive, we have a problem. The playcalling late was vanilla and predictable. Only because Jamal Lewis can break tackles did we score our last touchdown. That’s all I was saying. That’s why I said may. Don’t overreact because I think there is still some learning to be done. Our offense has been bad this year. It wasn’t all DA’s fault.
Well, I suppose I can add the qualifier “may” to anything and that will lend it credence.
I know you are upset and going through the knee-jerk reaction phase, but that does not mean that everyone should be fired after every loss.
Chud is a good coordinator that runs a strong offensive system. 30 points is nothing to laugh at ever…especially when you have a quarterback starting his first game.
Q Dawg targeted Kellen Winslow. A lot. This is something I have been begging for Anderson to do, yet I would only see Anderson throw to Winslow 2-3 times a game. Winslow presents an extremely difficult matchup for almost any defensive player in the league. Quinn’s YPA will suffer the more he does this, but he is also taking advantage of our best matchup. As he gains more confidence, they will start letting him take more shots downfield. The YPA is nothing to worry about at this point.
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