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Thoughts on the Browns after twice rewatching...

The things that stand out the most to me:

McDonald appears to have lost all confidence in himself and it shows on the field. On numerous occasions he could be seen yelling in the direction of Sean Jones instead of eyeing his man down as the play started. I kept a count during my second rewatch. The number of times I saw McDonald not looking directly at the man he was covering when the ball was snapped: 10. The number of times I saw him clearly get beat: 7. The number of times he was badly beaten for a touchdown: 3. The third included the "no tackle" play earlier in the 4th. McDonald just stood there and watched him run by. He assumed a tackle was going to be made and quit the play. He also dropped 2 easy interceptions. I'll touch on this later, but I saw no adjustments to get him help. He played primarily one on one coverage.

Sean Jones is either rusty or not 100% back from his injury. He is slow to pickup his help reads and he is terrible in his lines for deep coverage. He spent the majority of the game helping to the left side of the field defensively despite McDonald's many troubles. There were multiple occasions where he may as well have been blitzing because I certainly didn't see him actually covering anything.

Our pass rush and blitz packages are predictable. If you rewatch the tape you'll see our line and blitzers simply being pushed to the sides, mostly to the right (backside). We don't run stunts for the most part. We bull rush in one direction. It's fairly easy to gameplan for if you have a QB who gets rid of the ball quickly. The 3-4 defense with the kind of players we currently have just doesn't make sense.

Sean Rogers is an animal. If only we had 2 more of him on the D-Line. What a beast.

Despite the urge to do so, I will not bash Kellen Winslow. Despite the fumble and the drop at the end he had a couple fantastic catches, two touchdowns, and over 110 yards on 10 catches. He's such a fantastic possession receiver/tight end and I really hope he plays out his career in Cleveland. Clearly he is better utilized with a short field quarterback like Quinn.

Quinn was solid in his first start. He's decisive. He gets rid of the ball quickly and most of his incompletions were either timing issues or just really tough throws. It is clear that Anderson's big arm couldn't overcome his own indecision and at times, fear and lack of confidence. The real question with Quinn is can he throw the ball deep. If he can't, then we may have some problems down the road.

Speaking of another player with a clear confidence issue, Edwards. The booing appears to have gotten to him. He was visibly upset in the first half when the fans boo'd him on a play that actually wasn't a drop. It was just an incredibly hard catch to make. He skied out with double coverage and just couldn't pull it down. The fans let him have it and you could see him rolling his eyes and shaking his head on the way back to the huddle. Not a good sign. He has to just keep playing his game.

 

 

Finally, the coaching staff. I am having trouble looking for something intangible that Romeo brings to the Browns as Head Coach. He's supposed to be a defensive guru but he doesn't adjust on defense. He's supposed to be a "player's coach" but he doesn't appear to have a lot of sway with them for now. He clearly sucks at handling his QBs. He is not a very good game manager including a major difficulty with clock management and ball control, particularly at the end of halves. With all that said, I do NOT think he should be fired. I am sick and tired of letting our coaches go after 3 or 4 years. It is my opinion that in order for an NFL coach to be successful they need five years to fully implement their system and plug in a full roster of players that fit their system. The problem with Cleveland is that we are so hungry for a winner (go watch the cavs, best Cavs team EVER this year) that we overreact to failure and don't give ourselves a chance to succeed over the longterm. With that said, if Bill C wants to stab the Steelers in the back and come coach the Browns, FIRE ROMEO! lol

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I really think McDonald was yelling because the Safeties were not lined up in the correct D, especially on the TD to Royal. I will watch the tape tonight. McDonald is a young player. He played a bad game and will rebound. He is not that bad. Also, CBs aren’t always taught to look at the WR they are covering. A lot of the time you can see them getting depth and looking at the QB. Eric Wright did this on at least one replay.

Winslow made a bunch of plays. Yes, he pointed to his tattoo, but I’ll take that celebration over a fake-mooning or a posing on the Dallas Star any day. Yes, he fumbled. Yes, he dropped the last pass. Those were horrible plays. But right now he is our only reliable receiving threat, and he’s damn good, too. 110 and 2TDs with one drop versus Braylon’s line looks pretty good. The pass interference call was complete BS.

Edwards needs an offseason on location wherever they shot Rockey IV. His trainers should be allowed to throw heavy, football sized objects at him whenever and wherever they like. He should be attempting to catch everything; pine cones, arrows, ninja stars, baseballs, Frisbees, pens, pencils and other various office supplies, babies, loaded handguns, televisions, car mufflers, DVD cases, digital cameras, and coffee machines. He will learn to catch or return to Cleveland with a substantially lower IQ and several concussions.

by rufio on Nov 7, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I laughed at the Rocky IV training thing. :-)

by gentryholdem on Nov 8, 2008 12:21 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec for that list of objects.

by danvail on Nov 10, 2008 10:27 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Firstly, I’ll say that your post is one of the few that focused first on defense, which is a plus. The offense has been putting enough points on the board to win games lately. So why continue on with concerns about the offense? And you made good points about our secondary. Finally, I got a chuckle about your observation that RC has clock mgmt issues particularly at the end of half and game. When else do you manage the clock but at the end of the half and game?

by elsandito on Nov 7, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, for example, you’re up by 13 in the second half. You don’t run the clock while your offense has the ball. There were 3 drives in the second half where they rushed the ball up and didn’t run clock like they should have. They just don’t manage the game well. It’s like they don’t even look at the clock until there is 3 minutes left.

by gentryholdem on Nov 8, 2008 12:23 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You re-watched the game twice? Impressive intestinal fortitude!

Oh The People You Meet When Your Out of Ammo.........

by Juannieboy on Nov 7, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I re-watched the first half

AND either the CBs do not understand the English language and are way worse than anyone thought, or they are taught to look at the QB when he snaps the ball.

Consistently, if they weren’t trying to play man-press coverage, they would look to the QB right off the snap. At times they would even fake the press, and then back off and look at the QB right after the snap.

They are also taught (my conclusion) to “open up” their hips to face the interior of the field. I personally do not like this, and it resulted in Eric Wright getting beat on a post-corner route to Eddie Royal down near the goal line (on TV Denver was going left to right) just prior to Denver’s first TD. Because Wright was shuffling with his hips facing the middle of the field, instead of backpedaling directly backward, he had a great jump on the post, but had to turn all the way around (180 degrees+) to get to the corner portion of the route.

The “opening up” would work well if when we sent LBs after the quarterback they actually made it every once in a while. Andra Davis got through the line with surprising consistency, but never got to Cutler because he had laughably bad closing speed. Cutler isn’t a chump, but as a ILB, you should finish that type of play. On the Royal catch, Wright did an ok job, and only had to cover for ~3 seconds thanks to pressure by Wimbley and Rogers. The ball barely got to Royal because Cutler was feeling heat, and if our front 7 is one step faster that ball never gets thrown or is incomplete. Royal is fast.

 Also, I have no idea what the safety on that side of the field was doing on the play. It looked like Cover-3 with both McDonald and Wright following their guys deep, and one Safety taking a receiver down the middle of the field in the endzone. McGinest was in good coverage on the FB, and both ILBs in coverage near the middle of the field. We sent 4 at the QB, so that leaves 1 safety and I have no idea where he went. It could have been a Cover-1, double X to double Marshall on the left of the formation, in which case, it was a well timed and well designed play by Denver.

by rufio on Nov 8, 2008 1:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defenses are like leaky pipes. When you seal up one part of the pipe, water leaks out another part at a greater rate.
Illustration: Last year the secondary didn’t look awful because opposing teams were content to run the ball at our defensive front, knowing we didn’t have the talent to stop them. So, we all thought the backfield wasn’t that horrible. Now that we have the manpower to stop teams from beating us with a simple handoff, they throw over the def. line consistently, thereby exposing the next weakest link, the backfield. Opposing off coordinators know what they’re doing. They go to work against the weakest part of your defense. We, as fans, tend to judge our team’s strengths and weaknesses based purely on results and stats, but there is a whole other game going on within the game.

by elsandito on Nov 8, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One Thing I Didn't Notice

One good surprise about the offense – I only remember one procedural penalty. I really thought that would be a bigger problem. Granted they were at home – though that’s never seemed to be an advantage in the past for the Browns – but I really expected a few growing pains with Quinn calling the snaps.

One thing I have noticed is that the DBs played better with Adams starting as compared to the last two games.

by JustBob on Nov 8, 2008 9:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no way Sean Jones is 100%.

Also, like you, I expected a botched snap or handoff or something catastrophic due to just having a new guy in at QB. That possibility remains for the next game, but I was glad to see an absence of that type of thing.

by rufio on Nov 9, 2008 5:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Montana, Young were 10-20 yard passers. Quinn showed a ton out there. Fire Romeo…I mean don’t fire Romeo.

by raven on Nov 9, 2008 12:33 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They still threw it downfield though. I can show you plenty NFL films videos of them heaving it up to Jerry Rice.

But yea, they did run teh West-Coast Offense. But you have to take shots downfield to keep the defenses honest.

Who's the best special teamer in NFL history? Josh Cribbs!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/signup.pl?ref=7249169

by kardiackids2007 on Nov 10, 2008 8:21 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its all about the threat that someone can and will go deep, not actually throwing and completing a lot of deep passes, I agree.

by rufio on Nov 10, 2008 1:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AND either the CBs do not understand the English language and are way worse than anyone thought, or they are taught to look at the QB when he snaps the ball.

Defensive backs are supposed to watch the QB when in zone coverage. While you are aware of the man infront of you, your focus should be in the backfield You are supposed to be able to make your drop into coverage (ie, ten yards from the line of scrimmage on the hash) while watching the QB. At least this is how I was taught……. This was probably THE hardest thing for me to learn as a defensive back during my unspectacular high school football career.

It’s the exact reverse when in man coverage. If they were in man and McDonald was peeking into the backfield then that’s a HUGE no no.

by mgtbfb on Nov 10, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the problem was Jones staring into the backfield while crowded up on the line and receivers spread out everywhere, but that was just my impression. I’ll leave it to someone with a DVR to go back and verify or disprove that.

by JustBob on Nov 10, 2008 4:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jones? Do you remember a quarter or specific play or whether DEN was driving left or right?

He would have to have walked up from his safety spot and been guarding someone like Stokley on a bad knee…that wouldn’t have been a good idea from Mel Tucker.

by rufio on Nov 11, 2008 2:38 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It also looked like they were looking at the QB in “bail” coverage (fake press transitioning to giving a cushion right before the snap) and man-off coverage. Both Wright and McDonald were doing it, and almost every time. Honestly, I couldn’t always tell if it was zone or man, the camera angles on TV usually focus on the ball, and after watching them do it about 10 or so times, I stopped counting and paying attention.

The only time I saw them look directly at the WR was in press coverage, though.

by rufio on Nov 11, 2008 2:41 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Four or Five Years for Crennel's program?

Let’s be serious. RAC has had his time. He came in and got his own staff. He picked Mo Carthon as OC and someone higher up had to tell RAC to fire the idiot. Grantham was gone because he was undermining RAC and now we have Tucker, who has taken a pretty bad defense and made it a passive, poor tackling, consistently under-schemed defense that can’t hold a lead no matter how many points they’re spotted. The blitz (when it is rarely called) is always blocked because it is always the same. Our zone coverage consists of guys standing around waiting for the opposing receiver to catch the ball and then the DB’s and LB’s try to tackle them. Can anyone really think that RAC is going to become a better HC if we give him another year? WE had a good year last year when there was no injuries and we played one of the weaker schedules in the league. Our defense (RAC’s supposed specialty) has been and is terrible, despite getting rid of one DC and hand picking another. I’m sorry—say it’s premature to get rid of RAC after four years—but his record, sad as it is, speaks for itself. He’s unsure of himself, he has lost control of at least some of the players, and he can’t motivate the players who need to be motivated. And worst of all, he won’t play the players who have the most to prove—Harrison, Bell, Hall among them. No, RAC must go while we still have some hope of getting a coach willing to take on a talented team and kick some butt!

by NCBigBrown on Nov 13, 2008 6:40 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i said in another blog that the Ravens and Browns have the brightest North futures and the Quinn/Flacco match up (in my prediction) will last more than a few years. it’s all bad coaching..you just need to match us by replcaing you coach as well. it’s refreshing and your teams young enough to accept a new coach. OUTSIDE of the Chin, who else would you consider? Billick could get you to .500 and you would be average good but who could give you 10 win seasons?

by raven on Nov 15, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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