Cincinnati Bengals vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns, Dec 21, 2008 1:00 PM EST
| CINCINNATI BENGALS (2-12) | WEEK 16 | CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-10) | |||
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| Date: | December 21, 2008 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Cleveland Browns Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Browns by 2½ |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 31 |
| SBN Coverage: | Cincy Jungle | Announcers |
Kevin Harlan & Rich Gannon |
CBS sure has a blockbuster this week, as Ryan Fitzpatrick and the 2-12 Cincinnati Bengals take on Ken Dorsey and the 4-10 Cleveland Browns in the Battle of Ohio. That's a fitting name for this game, because when you look at the NFL Distribution Maps this week, Ohio is just about the only state that'll painfully get to watch this game. Truth be told, I'm sure most football fans in Ohio would rather have our game blacked out so that we could see the Pittsburgh Steelers battle the Tennessee Titans for the No. 1 seed in the AFC.
At least Marvin Lewis has looked and sounded more like he cares about winning. Romeo Crennel is just playing the season out with little to no enthusiasm until he is fired. Against the Bengals though, perhaps our offense will look a little bit better and scrape out a victory.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics thus far...
OFFENSE
| Category | Bengals | Browns |
| Points Scored | 12.5 (32nd) | 16.5 (28th) |
| Passing | 159.0 (30th) | 165.6 (29th) |
| Rushing | 80.4 (29th) | 97.0 (26th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 239.4 (32nd) | 262.6 (30th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Bengals | Browns |
| Points Scored | 25.6 (27th) | 21.7 (17th) |
| Passing | 218.4 (18th) | 216.1 (17th) |
| Rushing | 124.9 (23rd) | 147.4 (28th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 343.3 (22nd) | 363.5 (27th) |
| CINCINNATI BENGALS | Position | CLEVELAND BROWNS | ||
| Fitzpatrick's first start this year was against Cleveland: 1 TD vs. 3 INTs. | QB | Unlike the past two weeks, Dorsey should have more time to stay in the pocket and deliver a throw. | ||
| Cedric Benson is averaging 3.1 yards a carry, and Chris Perry is averaging 2.6 yards a carry. Yikes! | RB | If Jamal Lewis wants to have a 100-yard game this season, this will be his last chance to do it. | ||
| Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, and Chris Henry outweigh our only threat in Edwards. | WR | With Winslow and Heiden sidelined, will Martin Rucker receive some snaps in the passing game? | ||
| The Bengals' pitiful rushing average and how often Fitzpatrick has been sacked (37) in 11 games is pitiful. | OL | They have seemed worn down against tougher competition, but should be able to maul the Bengals. | ||
| Antwan Odom, a player we were interested in during the offseason, has just two sacks this season. | DL | Shaun Smith is inactive, so Louis Leonard will start in his place. | ||
| The Bengals aren't strong at linebacker either, but they weren't a particular weakness against the Redskins last week. | LB | I've been more impressed with the efforts of Jackson, Wimbley, and even McGinest the past several weeks early in games. | ||
| If Edwards wants more "respect", he better be able to catch the ball with how often he'll get open this week. | DB | I'm sold on our secondary: get Daven Holly healthy next year, and I'm comfortable. | ||
| The Bengals' Kyle Larson is averaging just 39.8 yards a punt. In comparison, Zastudil averages 44.9 yards. | ST | Will Cribbs' Pro Bowl snub motivate him to have a big return game? | ||
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 24, Cincinnati Bengals 13.
I think today will be another bland offensive approach, with Jamal Lewis getting the ball quite often. Unlike other games though, the Browns' offensive line will open up the holes for Lewis to run through, en route to his biggest day of the season. With high winds up to 50 MPH, do we really think Dorsey's passing game would be any better than it has been the past two weeks?
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 15 as they take on the Cincinnati Bengals. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Gameday Inactives
Browns: WR Paul Hubbard, RB Allen Patrick, TE Kellen Winslow, TE John Madsen, CB Travis Daniels, S Hamza Abdullah, DE Shaun Smith, and LB Leon Williams
Nice to see Hubbard inactive…way to get him some work. At least Jerome Harrison is active again.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
The more I've been thinking about it . . .
. . . Savage also has to go.
Just caught up, Browns trying to get into field goal range before the end of the first half.
This is about as bad and boring as it can come for a football game.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
I sympathize with Gannon and Harlan for trying to announce this type of game.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 21, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Gannon sucks.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Dec 21, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh…sort of a tough catch, but why did it have to be Rucker that dropped that pass?
And, didn’t we have one timeout left after Dorsey got sacked? Dorsey doesn’t have the arm for a Hail Mary there, but throw in Gradkowski or Cribbs to launch it…
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
Please, when has Romeo ever tried something like that? I like the guy, but I’m done with this. When you have nothing left to lose, why not go for it?
by Estonianzulu on Dec 21, 2008 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Laughable…Dorsey throws into four defenders towards Edwards.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
If Romeo pulled Quinn earlier this season to provide a spark, he can’t do the same here with Dorsey?
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
What a shame, sham and waste of a football team. No heart no belly, I don’t care about injuries, don’t care about the coach, don’t care about spread sheets, diagrams of plays, don’t care about what this team did to us, or how to use players. ( if we have any)
When a team has no heart it doesn’t matter what you do. This season was over after week 3, just ask the players.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Dec 21, 2008 2:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
First halfway decent drive.
I’m about ready for the Gradkowski Era.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Dec 21, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Keep trying that Flash package
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
The stubbornness to throw a pass out of the formation is tiring.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 21, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
If the Bengals score again to go up by three possessions, let’s see if we then throw with Cribbs for the third week in a row.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
if Leon Hall was on of our WRs, Dorsey’d be having a great day
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Dec 21, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wow, the Patriots are beating up Arizona 44-0
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Dec 21, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions
oops, 47-0
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Dec 21, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions
Now we can build on our momentum this week against the Steelers next week!
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 21, 2008 3:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Been running errands/X mas shopping today as this game had about as much appeal as a strip off between Rosie O’Donnell and Hillary Clinton.
After checking the box score and seeing we managed 182 yards of “offense” I see I made the right decision skipping this game.
by mgtbfb on Dec 21, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
For what?
Not dominating with Ken Dorsey? Dorsey is awful. He has a noodle arm, poor timing, and little overall talent. He should never take the field for an NFL team.
I guess I’m just the kind of cat who likes offensive TDs. Haven’t seen one (or any imagination or adjustments from our O co-ord) in a long time.
by JulioBernazard on Dec 21, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was also doing a lot of Christmas-related errands this morning…and I am thankful I only checked my phone two or three times. I’m pretty sure I terrified a woman in front of me at Target with my torrent of expletives when I saw the score was 14-0 early in the first.
Can next season start soon enough?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Dec 21, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Spent the afternoon at a sports bar near my parents’ home in Port Charlotte so I could watch the Browns and my wife could watch the Steelers. The Browns were awful. So were the Steelers. It was the local Steelers’ bar and at least I got some satisfaction in watching the Steelers get humiliated. I can’t imagine how thoroughly pissed off the Steelers are going to be next week. We may need to go out and get a couple more quarterbacks off the street for after they knock out Dorsey, Gradkowski and Cribbs. Who’s our fourth string super-emergency quarterback?
by woodsmeister on Dec 21, 2008 5:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Darnell Dinkins was once the Giants No. 3 or No. 4 QB.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 21, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Browns - You Made Me A Good Daddy
Shovelled the driveway and the walkway… walked the dog and took the kids tobogganing.
Had no interest in watching this abortion of a team today.
At least I made my kids happy.
Fire them all.
by Pruitt on Dec 21, 2008 6:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Do we really need to use the word “abortion”? I know the team is bad, but that’s a terrible thing to reference. Completely unnecessary. This comment should be deleted.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 22, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I care, I love seeing the Steelers take a beating.
by woodsmeister on Dec 22, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t see any of this game because we had my family at the house for a Christmas gathering. Looks like I didn’t miss much. We were playing the Seinfeld “Scene It” game which I got from my dad and that was much more fun than watching the Browns lose again. (By the way, I took on my brothers, sister, and mom by myself and beat them — nobody know more Seinfeld than I do!!)
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
Hey, a challenge! If you’re ever in the Columbus area, let me know and we’ll have a competition. I would love to have a real challenger in Seinfeld trivia.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 22, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
The only question left for this season is whether the Browns end up with the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th pick of the draft. There’s no way they beat the Steelers, and I’m thinking that Cincy has a good Shot at beating KC. If Seattle and Oakland pull off upsets, the Browns would be looking at the #4 pick.
Sorry. I’m trying to think of something upbeat, but I’m just no feeling it.
Personally, I hope they don’t play Cribbs too much on offense this week. I’d hate to see him injured in a meaningless game at the end of a dismal season. It would be meaningful if I thought the Browns had a snowball’s chance of winning. The time to play him was early in the season. The time to preserve him for next year is now.

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