Totally agree about the value sheet. People rely way too much on that for making decisions, especially when it comes to getting “fair value” when trading down from a top-5 pick.

This is absolutely correct. Seattle would not pass on him, I don’t believe.

I think conceivably he meant like Dallas had two lower first round picks this year (ours and their own) that thye could trade both #1s to move up into the Top 5.

As far as I can tell, the only team that currently has two 1st rounders next year is Detroit, so obviously that scenario does not apply here.

And, if a team wanted to trade their number 1 this year, and their number 1 next year, I think we would have to listen to the offer.

Just as an FYi, it looks like the Giants have two 2nd rounders (Saints for Shockey), Dolphins (Redskins for Taylor), and Patriots (from SD).

If the Browns (a big IF) can deal either DA and/or Winslow, they could pick up other high draft picks as well,

A team will do it if they have 2 later picks in the 1st (or bet that they will be picking later in the 1st the next year while trading the next year’s 1st) because of the draft value chart. It places an obscene amount of value on the top pick, and then the values slide down exponentially after that.

It’s dumb, but it happens.

If I remember correctly (and I may not), the “match games” are against teams from the two intra-conference divisions you are not already facing. So, since we are facing the AFC West (and North, obviously) next year, our “match games” are the AFC East and AFC South (Jaguars and Bills for us).

This season, it was the AFC West and AFC East (Broncos and Bills for us, Chargers and Patriots for ya’ll).

I could be way off on this though.

what Displaced said ….

But an easier way of looking at it is we play each division rotating, with the “match games” against the same place (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th) of the other two divisions we don’t do a full schedule against.

So next year the AFC North plays the NFC North and the AFC West for full slates, while the Steelers will play Miami and Tennessee while we will play Buffalo and Jacksonville.

For future reference, the AFC North plays the following divisions for full slates like this:

NFC North: 2009, 2013, 2017, etc
NFC South: 2010, 2014, 2018, etc
NFC West: 2011, 2015, 2019, etc
NFC East: 2012, 2016, 2020, etc

AFC West: 2009, 2012, 2015, 2018, etc
AFC East: 2010, 2013, 2016, 2019, etc
AFC South: 2011, 20114, 2020, etc.

That’s why you we usually kept seeing San Diego vs. Indy and New England vs. Indy every year the past several years, despite the fact they were in different divisions — first place teams play the first place teams from every other division. Next year, the Patriots will also have the benefit of facing the AFC West and the NFC North, and your “match games” will be against Tennessee and Miami.

I always root for the Colts, they’re an easy team to like with Manning and Dungy. And I suppose I’ll root for the Panthers in the NFC, although I don’t care that much (anyone but the Giants). So I guess I’m with you, Chris.

The Panthers have the most Buckeyes of any NFL team on the roster. I believe Atlanta is second so I will be rooting for both of these teams.

I like Aaron Curry a lot.

Todd McShay slotting us for Aaron Maybin basically guarantees we will not draft him.

Very true, but they run a completely different scheme offensively than we do.

In the end, I’ll be suprised of someone offers us an acceptable deal for Edwards. I’d be willing to bet he plays here in 2009.

They also have 2 quality RBs, one of which set the record for the 40 at the combine.

Stallworth gets a big bonus if we keep him, my feeling is there is no reason to pay it for how little production we received.

I expect most of the following list to be gone: Stallworth, Jamal Lewis, DA, Shaffer, McGinest, A Davis, Shaun Smith

Sean Jones is also a free agent and may want a big contract, but I am hoping we can sign him to a reasonable deal

Stallworths VORP and salary cap numbers could spell his demise (could get a slightly less talented player for much cheaper). No team has been able to count on him to be healthy, but with zero NFL caliber guys behind him, you never know. We need youth there no matter what.

Javon Ringer is tiny. He pounds, but he is still small.

Best is from the high school class of 2007.

And the U is hurting for talent greatly. Cooper/James are average. They have three good backs coming in this class, and I would guess that James would be behind two of them (B.Brown and L. Miller) immediately.

All of Miami’s players are young which could lead to a good future if handled correctly. I know a talent scout from South Florida who works for a service. They provide info to colleges on high school players. Some of the stories he’s shared are pretty crazy. Larry Coker really messed that program up.

OSU LB=Sabino?

Spence is only a frosh, though, and he is still really small. I’ll wait to see if he can get up to at least 220-230 before I believe he can be that good in the NFL.

Their CB #1 is also really really good and a freshman.

Key in on Mauluga. He is such a punk. Count the number of times he takes a swing at an opponent after a play. I’m amazed he hasn’t been ejected yet.

I was not very impressed with Maybin while watching the game live. Every USC LB looked good, even the one who never gets talked about (#43) looked like he warranted a later pick.