If I Were Running the NFL . . .
After reading the ESPN story about the 1958 NFL Championship game and watching the movie The Express recently, I started dreaming . . .
If I were running the NFL, I would:
1. Return the hash marks to the 1950's/1960's positions close to the sidelines. This will change multiple aspects of the game for the better such as kicking, run offense, run defense, and more.
2. Impose the strictest possible behavior and dress codes for players, coaches, agents, owners, fans, and broadcasters. "No tolerance" should be the rule.
3. Return the uniform styles to what they used to be: long pants, short socks, real sleeves, etc.
4. Eliminate two teams.
5. Hold the Super Bowl in the city of the team in the championship game having the best record.
6. Impose huge fines and team penalties for dancing, celebrating, jiving, or other demonstrations of arrogance.
7. Eliminate radio helmets on offense and defense.
8. Change the sudden death rule so that the team relinquishing the lead must kick off.
I not sure if I'm alone in this daydream and I don't know if this is just me, but the NFL as a product just doesn't capture my imagination like it used to.
Will they ever fix it?
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1. Hash mark would only allow for more creativity in the passing game these days. I’m not against it, but it would be a change for change’s sake at this point.
2. The NFL has a pretty tough behavior code as it is. You get in any trouble, you are getting a call from the commish, who will decide your fate, often a suspension. I don’t want it any stricter. I’m no hockey fan, but if a player on a team I cheered for ever was suspended multiple games for saying “sloppy seconds” I would be irate. Dress code: I think its stupid in the NBA. But really, when was the last time you saw a Browns player in non-team attire or non-dress clothes as it is? I don’t know what you mean about imposing a policy against fans. Am I not allowed to drink? Swear? boo my team?
3. Uniform: I’d like real sleeves, only because the new jersey’s look dumb with the striping only going half way around the arm.
4. Eliminate two teams? How? Who? Why?
5. Super Bowl city: I like this idea, because I hate the stale atmosphere of Super Bowls, but I"m torn. Home field is such a huge deal. I would make it rotate among all the NFL cities equally. If crappy Tampa Bay can have 3,000 super bowls, we can make one work in Cleveland. Also, domes suck. And football is all about weather.
6. This is already done over the top. You really want to make it more of the “No Fun League”. Tell me, who the hell got hurt by Atlanta’s Dirty Bird Dance a few years back? Are Chad Johnson and TO’s dances really that offensive? Cheerleading, cell phones, golf. I mean, we aren’t talking about obscene subjects here. If you score a TD, you should be able a few seconds of glory.
7. Agreed- hand signals work fine.
8. Don’t really understand this. Why is a score late in teh game worth more than in the first quarter. Overtime needs some work, but this is less fair and just as arbitrary as a coin flip.
by Ryan Kelsey on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
dude
there isn’t a single person who isn’t retarded who would rather be in Cleveland than Tampa for the Superbowl.
You guys might have some better sandwiches up there, that’s about it.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Dec 10, 2008 6:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point there is that Tampa is not worthy of hosting 2 superbowls, when a historic football town like Cleveland has not hosted one. The most common reasonings given for Cleveland not getting a super bowl is weather, which I think is stupid, and infrastructure. Well, if Tampa can find a way to hold one, I think Cleveland could.
by Ryan Kelsey on Dec 10, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What? How are you supposed to impose behavior and dress code rules on the fans? And really, why do the players need a dress code — they’re always in uniform? Even if they’re injured, nobody can pick them out standing on the sidelines and they’re always in team aparrel anyways. And agents and broadcasters??? I think you’re getting carried away here.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 9, 2008 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Might as throw out the playoffs and develop a convoluted voting/ranking system to determine the two Super Bowl teams while we’re at it.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Dec 9, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that there are a lot of things wrong with college football, but the overtime is not one of them. A professional sporting event ending in a tie is just incredibly pathetic.
by fwembt on Dec 10, 2008 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t start arguing on whether ties are pathetic or not. That’s more of a preference.
The fact that a coinflip “determines” who wins a game, as so many fans and analysts want you to believe, is ridiculous. Overtime begins the same way it does at the beginning of the game and after any score: a kickoff that puts the return unit and offense in a position where they need to string together a number of reasonably successful plays in order to have a chance to score. In college overtime, any team with a slightly above average kicker is given a good chance at putting up 3 points even if the offense fails to move the ball on 3 downs. It’s similar to the International Baseball Federation’s extra-innings rule:
From the top of the 11th inning on, each batting team will “re-start” its hitting order by beginning the inning with placement of base runners on first and second with no outs. These must be consecutive batters in the order, and it is up to the manager to decide who those runners will be.
That’s bastardized baseball, as is starting football OT on your opponent’s 25-yard line. Football’s a timed game of sixty minutes, and college’s OT rules turns it into a different format. It makes no sense to me. I find it amusing that college football’s OT rules are considered “fair”, when not much else of what determines the champion is.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sudden death is what kills the overtime, not the fact it has the same rules. You basically argue against yourself when you dismiss changing the format. Is that not what taking a timed period and turning it into sudden death is? Another 15 minute period would be great, making it so one team has a good chance to win without even having to play defense makes no sense. That’s bastardized football.
by fwembt on Dec 10, 2008 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. I think basketball OT is idea. You simply play the same game for one more period, but shorten it. For football, just play an entire 8 minute quarter. If its still tied, play another, or just call it a tie. Sudden death is not football. Anytime you have teams kicking 30 yard field goals on 2nd and 10 with 10 minutes left to win a game, well, thats just silly.
by Ryan Kelsey on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much agree with everything fwembt says here. The NFL overtime has fans hanging on to a prayer with the coin flip. Sudden death is no fun at all.
by gahnki on Dec 10, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its not so much the starting at the 25 yard line, its the sudden death and the ties.
I am not saying college OT is more or less fair, but I am saying it is a whole lot more exciting and more fun to watch, especially vs a tie.
You don’t have to agree with me.
by rufio on Dec 10, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
About My #8
Team that relinquishes the lead at the end of the game should be under the added pressure of knowing that if they do so, they’ll have to kick off at the beginning of sudden death.
by ploni on Dec 9, 2008 10:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
1. Return the hash marks to the 1950’s/1960’s positions close to the sidelines. This will change multiple aspects of the game for the better such as kicking, run offense, run defense, and more.
might make things more interesting. would make field goals more difficult, thus increasing the likelyhood of a coach going for it on 4th and short (unless it’s Romeo)
2. Impose the strictest possible behavior and dress codes for players, coaches, agents, owners, fans, and broadcasters. “No tolerance” should be the rule. Rules are fine as they are. You can’t even raise your voice at Cleveland Browns Stadium without harrassment from the ushers. I agree with a previous poster who said he’d be pissed if Goodell started banning players for saying things like “sloppy seconds”.
3. Return the uniform styles to what they used to be: long pants, short socks, real sleeves, etc. Uniforms are fine as they are IMO. I always thought Johnny U. looked silly with those long sleeves.
4. Eliminate two teams. Reconsider this, unless your willing to give up the Browns as we are one of the last two teams added…..
5. Hold the Super Bowl in the city of the team in the championship game having the best record. Agree. and lay off Tampa.
6. Impose huge fines and team penalties for dancing, celebrating, jiving, or other demonstrations of arrogance. STRONGLY AGREE. Spiking the ball is fine so is natural exuberance after a big play like a sack or big hit but the antics or T.O. and Chad Johnson are moronic as are the defensive players that do a dance after making a tackle 7 yards downfield. Cut out the hip hop me, me, me crap now before it invades everything like it did in the NBA.
7. Eliminate radio helmets on offense and defense. Agree.
8. Change the sudden death rule so that the team relinquishing the lead must kick off. STRONGLY AGREE with changing overtime. My change would be that each team gets a possession. The game shouldn’t come down to a coinflip.
by mgtbfb on Dec 10, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cut out the hip hop me, me, me crap now before it invades everything like it did in the NBA.
So in other words, quit acting like all those black players in the NBA. You’re right; the NFL (and the NBA) was much better when it was only good, well-behaved white guys.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of philosophers and social theorists would believe that this need for everything to be about enjoying oneself is hardly limited to sports.
by rufio on Dec 10, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. But a lot of the negativity about the NBA and the complaints about players showboating is because the players are young, black, wear tatoos, and listen to rap music. That’s why he wrote “hip hop crap.” Of course, that’s not limited to black kids, but the public perception of it is.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The self centered, me first, style over substance, break the law, demand respect, give none mindset of the hip hop culture is poison.
Ask Jim Brown what he thinks about it. Bet he agrees with me.
by mgtbfb on Dec 10, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute — there’s a big difference between being self-centered and celebrating after touchdowns and breaking the law. All self-centered athletes aren’t criminals; in fact, most are not. That’s just stereotyping of the worst form.
Many of these athletes also give money to charity and help out their hometowns. Listen, I don’t like all the celebrating after every play and showboating that goes on either. But you’re taking it way too far if you’re labeling them all as law-breakers. Just because you like bumping your chest doesn’t make you a bad person. And when you call it the “hip hop” culture, and label them all criminals, that sounds very racist. It doesn’t matter if Jim Brown agrees or not.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree.
The last (and only?) person on the Browns I can remember who got arrested was Leigh Bodden, and he was pretty much arrested because he was black, driving a big SUV, and wearing some bling.
The cops said he was “driving backwards on a one way street” when he was actually backing his car in to a parking spot.
Parallel parking isn’t exactly “poison”.
BTW, have you ever actually listened to some hip hop lyrics? Have you watched Dave Chappelle’s documentary? Some of it is really artistic, well done, and positive. Even megastars like Jay-Z whose popular songs are “Money, Cash, Hoes” have some songs with lyrics that really explain things (“if you grew up with holes in your zappatoes, you’d celebrate the minute you was havin’ those”). Whose “fault” is it when rappers just try to do what they can to make money and their publicists, producers, etc. are telling them that the things you describe will get people to watch their videos, buy their CDs, and glorify the things you don’t agree with? There is a REALLY big market for that sort of thing, and capitalizing on markets regardless of questionable ethics is nothing really all that shocking anymore.
This is really off of the topic of football, though.
To me, if a guy is going to put the team first on Sunday and practice and work as hard as he can—do the things he is supposed to do—then I don’t care if after the play he celebrates, especially in a way that isn’t horribly disrespectful to others. Braylon catching a TD and strumming an air guitar is a lot different than T.O. standing on the Dallas star the way he did, or Moss fake mooning fans. I really don’t think it is a big problem on the Browns, especially compared to what it could be. The more our guys intimidate the other team, the better they are going to do on the field, and when they celebrate, they probably will have already done something well on the field. I can see how a lot of it would be off-putting to some fans but compared to some other teams, the Browns are well under control.
by rufio on Dec 11, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know what Jim Brown would say, but i promise you he’d punch you in the mouth if you decried the “hip hop culture” to him. what does that even mean? to me, it’s bullsh*t, 21st century, thinly-veiled racism. i’m NOT calling you a racist…please understand that. nor am i trying to incite a racial argument here. simply making an observation.
celebration and self-aggrandizment has next to nothing to do with a “hip hop culture” and a lot more to do with the age-old plague of ego and self-importance of highly talented people who acquire great sums of money, regardless of culture. you think silicon valley billionaires buying $100mm yachts is any different, at its base level, than TO shaking pompoms after a TD?
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 10, 2008 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How did we get from celebrating to breaking the law? If you don’t like the way Chris Henry acts off the field, I have no quarrel with you. No one would. To equate that to Chad Johnson acting like an idiot after a touchdown is completely unfair.
Celebration is a part of our culture now. From HS to the NFL, people thump their chests and draw attention when they make a good play. They have earned the right, through hard work and dedication, to do that. You have earned the right, by owning a tv, to not watch it. It can be annoying at times, but just because some of the people don’t like it some of the time doesn’t mean it should be outlawed or even that it is wrong.
This respect stuff is garbage. It’s a competition. Frankly, it annoys me to see players helping opposing players up, smiling, and slapping them on the butt. The idea is to beat the person opposite you in any way in which you can. Respect just gets in the way of that. What do you want these guys to do? Shake hands after the game and go out for ice cream? The simple way to avoid being disrespected is to not allow yourself to be beaten by your opponent. If that happens, you run the risk of being humiliated.
Jim Brown is a relic of a past age. He is no more relevant to this conversation than Abe Lincoln is.
by fwembt on Dec 11, 2008 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, there is a fine line between genuine spontanious celebration and making yourself and your team look like an ass.
I also feel you need to respect your opponent as it’s a game, not a streetfight or a war. I wanted to inflict as much pain and suffering on the opposing team as humanly possible when I played. Every game I played the goal was to break the other team’s will and spirit. That being said, after the game I usually went out of my way to tell that player or players I butted heads with most often that they played a good game and good luck the rest of the season. To each his own, but to me it wasn’t personal, it’s a game, even if I wanted to rip the opposing DB’s head off with a stiff arm if I got to the secondary on a run or something instead of juking him.
Regarding my comments about the “Hip Hop” culture I may have been a little too general there but I feel it’s a problem. When I see guys like Plaxico, Matt Jones, Chris Henry or Pac Man just pissing away these incredible gifts it makes me sick. How can someone be so careless? They have the chance to do things you and I can only dream of and just make dumb mistake after mistake. Why they continue to do this is a topic for another forum I think, and I regret bringing up a social issue here. My mistake and I apoligize for it.
by mgtbfb on Dec 11, 2008 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a teacher and I have many students who are smart and have a chance to make something of their lives, and they throw it away being lazy and having no ambition. The just want to play video games all day and don’t care about their future. Or, worse, they get themselves mixed up in drugs and alcohol.
The point is that there are many gifted people who throw away their lives by making poor decisions. It’s not exclusive to athletes, or people of any race, or people who are part of the “hip hop” culture. You’re making generalizations here. Of course, nobody likes to see these guys screw up. But 95% of the players in the NFL don’t do things like this, so why don’t you focus on them? Besides, Goodell has acted as harsh as any commissioner ever has, so I don’t know what more you want him to do.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 11, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
#6. Why don’t we just bring the good game handshake line after the games too? Look, celebration is a part of the game from Peewee to the NFL. It’s here to stay, get used to it.
by fwembt on Dec 10, 2008 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Everybody thinks the game was better when they were young, and the players today should act like players used to. Except there really isn’t that much different, other than the media exposure.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are things about todays game that are positive. I think it’s cool that you can find out easily what’s going on in any game being played, not just your local game (if it wasn’t blacked out) and MAYBE one other game if you were lucky.
Remember back when you were a kid when the Browns would get blacked out occasionally and there would be no game on the other network. Nothing but something awful like ice skating on…. Uggg…. man that sucked.
by mgtbfb on Dec 10, 2008 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing wrong with celebration within reason. It’s the 30 second chicken dance after every tackle or especially when guys like T.O. rip off their helmet and scream “DATS WHAT IM ABOUT DATS ALL ME MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!” that I can do without.
Hell, one of the biggest dissapointments in my athletic career was not gettting to spike the ball after my 1st TD in a varsity FB game. You are thrown out of the game for that at the HS level.
by mgtbfb on Dec 10, 2008 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta tell you, if i were running the NFL i would do just about 0 differently. maybe make overtime one full-length period (or a full 8 minutes), so that the coinflip has less to do w/ the winner. also, i might tone down pass interference and illegal contact calls w/ the refs. that’s about it, though.
this is the most successful league in the history of American professional sports. there’s little about that that needs changing. oh…i guess i’d drop the dispute over the NFL Network. make sure everyone could watch thurs and sat games.
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 10, 2008 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Fixing overtime is really the only thing to be done. It’s all fine tuning after that.
by fwembt on Dec 11, 2008 3:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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