Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Phil Mickelson Outshines Tiger Woods

Browns Still Need Some Depth

"In a Blizzard!!!"

Considering the weather outside, I think it's appropriate enough to remember one of Dawson's many miraculous kicks this season, particularly in the latter part of the season.

Things have really quieted down in free agency after the signing of Stallworth (although the Browns did fork over quite a bit of money to Shaun Rogers). In the past several days, I've read numerous columns from people at ESPN, Sports Illustrated, and Yahoo Sports, most of which have stated that the Browns were not only big winners in free agency, but could now even be in the hunt for the Super Bowl.

Back things up a bit.

Before free agency, things looked very gloomy for us because all of the "big-time defensive linemen" were either being franchised or re-signed by their teams. Then, after a couple of surprising trades, we upgraded better than anyone could've imagined with Rogers and Corey Williams. We didn't upgrade to the point where we are going to be as dominant as the New York Giants' defensive line was, but we should be at the point now where Mel Tucker can actually look around and think, "I've got something to work with."

But still, something is missing on the defensive side of the ball: depth. For the past two-three seasons, I've claimed that the Browns' linebackers haven't been able to live up to their potential because the defensive line was extraordinarily weak. I think Kamerion Wimbley will take a step forward this season, but this could be the year in which we determine who our core middle linebackers will be. If Andra Davis continues to make tackles only five-seven yards down the field, you can't imagine him staying here much longer. If D'Qwell Jackson is nothing more than average, then we'll still be lacking something when teams try to attack the middle. Remember, Rogers will only be able to do so much. Whatever he can't do, our linebackers will need to do. Most of us were convinced last season that Willie McGinest was done, and Antwan Peek seemed to be nursing an injury every week. That potentially leaves two vulnerable middle linebackers and a gap at the outside linebacker position.
Injuries were the downfall Gary Baxter's career with the Browns.
In the secondary, we're trying to skate on thin ice again. Last year, Leigh Bodden was injured often again, Eric Wright had a little stretch with the injury bug, and our safeties were darn-near pitiful to start off the year. Luckily, Brandon McDonald turned out to be a gem during his limited action, and Sean Jones and Brodney Pool improved upon their play towards the end of the season.In the NFL, you have to expect injuries to happen. After seeing Gary Baxter's career go up in flames here in Cleveland because of it, and all of Bodden's struggles, I think it'd be a little overconfident to assume that we're "okay" in the secondary right now.Wright was solid last season. McDonald was solid in limited action last season. What if one of them goes down? Baxter isn't even under contract with us right now, and even if he was, he'd probably be placed at safety. Daven Holly is an "okay" nickel back.Last year, the offensive line was so successful not only because of the additions that were made, but because of our depth across the board. We felt guys like Ryan Tucker and Kelly Butler could've started for us -- and yet we cut Butler. When Seth McKinney went down, we didn't miss a beat when Tucker came in.If Corey Williams goes down, who is ready to fill his shoes? The same question can be asked at the linebacker position and in the secondary.As Dawgs By Nature reader Bernie19Kosar pointed out, the draft is deep enough at linebacker to where we can find some solutions at that position. However, you'd have to imagine that we'll be committed to the starters from last year all of this year.The remaining options on the free agent market are thinning. And, while I couldn't be more ecstatic about the 100% necessary moves we made on the defensive line, I can't jump the gun so quickly and assume that our defense will suddenly be as good as people are billing it to be. Maybe in its current state it has strong potential. But, with an injury or two, our secondary will be as vulnerable as our defensive line was last season. And that...that spells trouble on the horizon.

Comment 6 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Re: Browns Still Need Some Depth
You make some good points Chris, especially about getting ahead of ourselves. I've thought the same thing about our depth and have been a little suprised that we haven't locked some more depth up via free agency.  If we stay put, we are one or two injuries from being in really bad shape.

There are some guys that are FAs now that were on our squad last year that would probably help us with our depth issue. I think we need at least 1 more big man on the D line (kelly?), one versitile O line man (McKinney?), a Linebacker or two and at least 2 more Dbacks.  

by vegasbrown on Mar 8, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Re: Browns Still Need Some Depth
Leon Williams does as good of a job as Andre Davis, and has the potential to do better than both he and Jackson.  Even if one of those three gets injured, we have an average starting pair of MLBs.  

The thing I like about our D line now is their versatility.  Robaire Smith is pretty much set at his one DE spot, but Shaun Smith and Rogers can play anywhere on the line, and Williams can play either DE spot.  Don't count out Purcell, Pittman, or Leonard Louis in adding depth.  If Rogers is playing to his potential, anyone over 280 lbs with a pulse can play DE for us, and I don't think Savage would have acquired these guys without seeing a flash of some sort of potential.  I am not saying they will break out, but depth here isn't a major concern.  Romeo also said he wouldn't be against bringing back Roye if he could prove to be healthy.

CB scares me.  Sean Jones and Pool should be no worse than last year.  They should be smarter than they ever have been, and more prepared to lead the secondary after a year of experience in that area without Brian Russel.  BUT, if either Wright or McDonald goes down, we would be starting Holly, which scares the bejesus out of me.  He might be ok in limited action guarding the other team's #3 WR, but we just can not start him.  Daven Holly vs Wes Welker, Amani Toomer/Steve Smith (NYG, not Carolina), Santonio Holmes, Greg Jennings....none of these sound like favorable matchups.  If we want to get anywhere in the playoffs, or even to them, we need more depth at CB.

The good part about all of these defensive positions is that the draft is really deep with solid players at all 3.

Guys like Justin King, Orlando Scandrick, Tracy Porters, and Charles Godfrey might still be there when we pick in round 4.  

by rufio on Mar 8, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

As a Steeler fan
This very discussion shows how far the Browns have come.  Not long ago you folks were discussing how you could possibly tackle someone, let alone keep teams out of the end zone.  Now your discussion turns to "depth."  That's a huge step.

I cringed when Phil Savage won the power struggle against John Collins.  I felt safe as long as Collins was running the show.  Savage is light years ahead of Collins in knowing what the hell he is doing.  Not every draft pick will pan out nor every trade or free agent signing.  But this business is about batting average and Savage is amongst the league leaders.  

I liked it much better when you worried about who was going to play defense in the front seven.  You weren't the slightest bit concerned about depth.

Welcome back to the rivalry Cleveland.  Your emergence was clear in last year's second game at Heinz.

by maryrose on Mar 8, 2008 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Re: Browns Still Need Some Depth
I've been worried about this too, actually. While I like our moves, LB is still a weakness thats more or less unaddressed. Maybe with that 4th round pick....
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Mar 9, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Browns Still Need Some Depth
I agree with the Browns going after 3 of those guys you mentioned:

1) Matt Malele - Cal - This is a premier "plugger" and run-stopper. He was a mainstay on that Cal line for 3 years...best days are ahead of him for sure! He is sooo strong it
is scary.

  1. I would also like to see DeSean Jackson from Cal as a wide-out and kick returner.....he would be a perfect fit with Edwards, Winslow, etc
  2. Also......Ohio State's Kirk Barton for the OL.
* To me, Malele would be the MOST important guy
for our needs right now.
JD

by jdavis16 on Mar 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Browns Still Need Some Depth
DeSean Jackson is expected to go in Round 1, so I don't see the Browns picking him up.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 12, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Non-stop coverage of the team with the best fans in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns.

Community Guidelines
Send us a Scoop

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Funny-good-times-11_small
DBN Draft Talk Thread #2

Recent FanPosts

Ike_small
2014 Super Bowl Cleveland Browns vs. Detroit Lions.....
Audi_rs4_fullsize_small
A new, improved top 10 to shred.
Nfl_cleveland_browns_1_small
Pick Griffin at 4 or BPA or Trade down
01203_rosewoodcanvas_1680x1050_small
The Day After
01anderson_500_display_image_small
How much longer for our Browns to play in and win a Superbowl?
Small
Are you All In???
01203_rosewoodcanvas_1680x1050_small
If I Were Tom Heckert...
Small
The Manning Saga (Lets make a Deal!)
Audi_rs4_fullsize_small
My bottom five: '11 Browns starters.

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

You get 'em Betty. Hat tip to BELIEVELAND.
Browns Are the Best in NFL History!

Recent FanShots

What Would the End of Football Look Like?
Peyton Manning's face in every logo
The First Super Bowl
Jordan Norwood weighs in on the Browns Unis: @jordaNorwood from a...
Dan Wolf Latest Mock
Cleveland to host Super Bowl?
Top Ten Things Overheard In The New England Patriots Locker Room After The Super Bowl (cut from tonight's "Late Show")
I think that you guys will all enjoy this as much as I did.
@dmdxu: "@darrenrovell SB cookie cake being sold at Giant Eagle in Cleveland (via @fisherbw) twitpic.com/8g4zdz"

This is an awesome Browns related Super Bowl cake!
BROWNS IN SUPERBOWL?

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

Browns Links

Local Media Sources
Official Browns Site
Orange and Brown Report
Cleveland Plain Dealer
Akron Beacon Journal

Browns Communities/Blogs
The Watercooler
Waiting for Next Year
Dawg Scooper
Dawg Talkers
Dawg Bones
The Browns Board

free hit counter javascript


Executive Editor

Dbn_small Chris Pokorny

Minions

Funny-good-times-11_small Bernie19Kosar

Rufiohookgrin01_small rufio

Evilbrownsavatar1_small Jon @ DBN

Moderators

Jared_sullinger--300x450_small Buckeye Brad

Small notthatnoise