Browns Sign GM Savage to 3-Year Extension

by Fundamentals on May 2, 2008 2:46 PM EDT

"I am extremely grateful to Randy Lerner and the Browns' organization for giving me an opportunity as a first time GM back in January 2005 and now to continue with this extension through the 2012 season," said Phil Savage. "We have worked very hard to turn the Browns around, on and off the field, and our team is looking forward to the 2008 season. From a personal standpoint, I want to also thank the many Browns' fans who have been so supportive during my time here."

ClevelandBrowns.com

Not upset at all with this signing. Nice to see Savage sticking around and, hopefully, finishing what he has started here.

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Would you be UPSET? He’s turned the Browns around in 3 years, this man should get the key to Cleveland.

by homerun21 on May 2, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Good to see that the Browns are focused on keeping the right kind of people around (Chud, Tucker, Romeo, Phil, etc…)

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Day by day, I’m starting to believe more and more that the Browns are ready to be considered the class of the AFC North for years to come (alas Colts in the AFC South, Patriots in the AFC East). Savage has panned out better than anyone could’ve hoped for (in realistic expectations).

Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.

by ChrisPokorny on May 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

This year will tell us for sure!!!! Which Qb be to pick should tell us??

by Bereadawg on May 4, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

this kind of discussion is really frustrating. can we please, as browns fans, stop, for good, DA/BQ talk? please?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 5, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

You’re on a Browns blog, and you don’t want to talk about which QB is the future of this franchise?

Not to be harsh, but I think you either need to stop visiting this site for the next year, or stop complaining. This is obviously going to be the main discussion for the next season.

by Nat on May 5, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Nat -

What progress are we making? Are we offering critical analysis or reasoning? Can we learn more about the Browns, our chances of winning, or anything else right now? Or is it just conjecture?

I’ve read – months ago – a handful of pieces that talked about the QB situation intelligently. The situation is not dynamic: we are not getting new information, which might inform a reevaluation. Unfortunately, we just have to wait until the season starts.

Or maybe this should be talked to death, forever.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 5, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Using your reasoning, nothing should ever be talked about on this blog. Everything on this blog is conjecture. Nothing we ever do on this blog is making progress or improves the chances of the Browns winning.

I enjoy the discussions and viewpoints that other people have about the Browns, and to say that any discussion on the QB debate has no chance of “critical analysis or reasoning” is a pretty broad statement. Someone might offer a little nugget that you might never have thought of, or potentially could pass on something that they read somewhere else. I’d like to hear that because I’m excited about this next season.

Regardless, it’s the offseason. We had no picks before the 4th round. What exactly should we talk about? I’d argue that it’s just as appropriate to talk about our 2 QBs as it is to talk about which undrafted free agent should make the practice squad.

I appreciate that you might have discussed this topic ad nauseam with your friends/colleagues, but I haven’t and am interested in other’s views about it. I apologize if I came off snarky and look forward to rooting on the Browns with you this season.

by Nat on May 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Let me clarify.

What progress are we making?

This does not mean that we are not helping the team progress. This means that our analysis has come to a halt. The point of being a fan is not to have power over the team, the point is to have power over how we view the team.

Everything on this blog is conjecture.

Also, not true. If this were the case, I would kindly stop coming. Pokorny does an excellent job of providing actual, concrete descriptions to his reasoning. “Guessing” isn’t wrong, provided you take the time to examine data and provide depth to your point.

Let’s look at context. Where we are, right now, is a dead-zone. Once minicamps, preseason and the regular season start, this debate will have some new input. We can examine the position with fresh intelligence. Until then, we have to mine data from BQ and DA’s college years, or in DA’s case, his limited starts in the pros, in order to come to any logical conclusion. And, frankly, I’m not seeing that done too often.

So when I hear people blithely reminding us of the mere existence of “debate” and “controversy,” yeah, I get a little tired of it.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 5, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Both these arguments have merit. Personally, I have to agree with joeee…I think we’ve reached the limit of intelligent conversation on this issue until some new data comes in.

Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on May 6, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Holy Cow…

Anyone else with me that the current banner has to go asap?

by kwoog on May 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

It could anger the football Gods, or be a stroke of genius. I think we need a little swagger.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 5, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Paper Champions of the World!!

Is what you need to post on your Banner

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 7, 2008 10:25 AM EDT reply reply 0 recs

How about “Open for lame jokes”

by Roger Dorn on May 7, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Im ok with that

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 7, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

favorite baseball team: new york yankees. favorite nfl team: steelers. favorite college team: ohio state buckeyes.

you pick such lovable losers!

irrelevant, i know. just sayin’.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 7, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

At least I do not pick just flat out losers like the browns. But if you knew anything about me you would understand why those teams are my Fav.whether you believe it or not i am not a bandwagon team.
Steeler fan: since i was born.
Yankees: since I was 7 years old, kind of hard to root for loser such as the pirates and Cleveland when you are 7, so I been a Yankee fan ever since through the good and bad.
Ohio State: Jim tressel, me being born and raise in Youngstown made me a huge fan of YSU and Jim Tressel, so when he became the head coach for OSU, thats the move I made.
Cavs: before Lebron i was not a NBA fan. Also doesnt hurt that we played st. vincet st mary when i was in high school when lebron was playing (we lost no doubt)

Any more questions feel free to ask? I always like a little browns poking fun at me. Makes my victory against the Browns a little sweeter.

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 7, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Yankees: since I was 7 years old, kind of hard to root for loser such as the pirates and Cleveland when you are 7, so I been a Yankee fan ever since through the good and bad.

You’re joking right?

:::Looks around at others::::

He just defined the bandwagon right?

Am I on crazy pills? fwembt you know i see you

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 7, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

That is pretty textbook…

by Bernie19Kosar on May 7, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Bandwagon

Is jumping from one team to another base on their success each year. So doing it at 7 years old does not go under bandwagon. Tired of wasting my breath here. see you sept. 14

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 8, 2008 7:25 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Dude, you came here. No one invited you. Don’t be lame.

by NickFantana on May 8, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

tiger woods is your favorite golfer? who the hell is he?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 8, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

i’m just going to kill this dead horse:

Cavs: before Lebron i was not a NBA fan.

Translation: Before the Cavs got the sport’s best player ever, I did not like them or the sport. Now I like the Cavs and the NBA.

whether you believe it or not i am not a bandwagon team.

Alright, Fine! You’re not a team! I’ll back off on that point, ok?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Adios douche

by Bernie19Kosar on May 8, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

It should be “proudly” in your signature. I know your Pittsburgh education may have missed that but I am from the government and I am here to help.

Proud supporter of the Cleveland.

by fwembt on May 7, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I love Steeler fans. Puffing their chest for beating an expansion team for a few years and acting like the Browns have never been good.

by Roger Dorn on May 9, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

more than a few years there sunny

Also, even when you were not an expansion team you guys sucked… Once again you guys have yet to win a superbowl. We got 5. Plus why you looking for excuses of why we beat you guys. If I was a browns fan i take it like a man and say this years going to be different forget about the past look towards the future. The browns got a good team, look forward to it no need to be bashing about the past.

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Please go away.

by NickFantana on May 10, 2008 11:23 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I thought you said you were leaving? Don’t you need to run out and buy some Red Wings gear anyways bandwagon?

by Bernie19Kosar on May 10, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

see ya on week 2…...be afraid be VERY afraid

by Bereadawg on May 10, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Listen pal. The Steelers have been good for a long time. We know it. And most of us hate it too.

And yes you got 5 Super Bowl titles (although I think the 5th was a bit giftwrapped, but that’s another argument for another day). Good for you. Congratulations. But while the Browns do not have any Super Bowl wins, they still own 4 NFL championships. Yes they were long ago, but they still count. So yes you have 5 to our 4. Feel better? The NFL didn’t start

Come back and talk to me when your squad has made 6 title games in a row.

Oh, and we had the best player in NFL history too.

by talonk on May 11, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

“The NFL didn’t start” in the year 1967.

by talonk on May 11, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Absolutely, I will give you Jim Brown who IMO and also yours was and is still the best player this game has ever seen. I am not trying to pick a fight at all, my only point I was trying to make was that I did not think that having 08-09 superbowl champs on your banner was necessary. Yes, this is your blog for the fans of the browns and I completely understand your guys hopes and dreams for this team this year. But the reality is every team has a chance at winning that Superbowl (even oakland). Believe me, I have some what new respect for the Browns because my g/f family are huge browns fans, and i enjoy their talks on not only their knowledge of the browns but the game as a whole.

With that being said you are correct Talonk you do have 4 NFL championships during the pre-superbowl era, and believe me the steelers were no good i know their history, they sucked and I stand by that. The only argument i can make is the simple, we have the most champion ships of the post 1967 era. pre 1967 is a different story which was pretty much the browns era.

Bereadawg, I like what you write over at BTSC and I enjoy your thoughts and comments. I can not say that I am afraid of the Browns this year but i can say that they can not be over looked anymore they have enough talent to beat any team at any given time, including the steelers.

I just want to make that clear, regardless if anyone wants to hear from me or not, because I do not go looking into peoples username to find something to pick on them about. Because, I do not feel that says anything about the Browns, Steelers and the rest of the NFL, which is what this site is all about, where opposing teams fans can come together and talk about football, not if someones a bandwagon person, or if i make silly and simple spelling errors because i am deaf. Believe it or not i come to this site just as often as I do at BTSC because I enjoy learning about a team that we play twice a year.

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on May 11, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Good. I really hate it getting into “p*ssing” matches with opposing fans. Light-hearted ribbing is fine, but way too often do the attacks get personal. I usually will stay out of those discussions (and they typically happen more on the ESPN type boards, not here).

Just a clarification on one of your comments, the Steelers are tied for the most super bowl wins with the Niners and Cowboys. (I’d give a slight nod to the Niners, since they haven’t lost one yet, but that’s neither here nor there).

by talonk on May 12, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply reply 0 recs