Browns Lose Out on LB Colvin
The Browns can forget about signing Rosevelt Colvin. The former New England Patriots linebacker signed with the Houston Texans today after two weeks of negotiations.
The Texans are hoping that Colvin, 6-3, 250, can provide another pass rush off the edge that was missing since last season.
It's kind of ironic if you look at things this way: the Texans signed Colvin in search of a pass rushing threat they were missing last season.
Antwan Peek (2005): 6 sacks with Houston
Shantee Orr (2005): 7 sacks with Houston
Together, Peek and Orr were the team's best pass-rushing duo since returning to the league. They really only had some success in 2005, but now both men have been casted over to the Browns. On top of that, linebacker Chaun Thompson, who had five sacks with the Browns in -- you guessed it -- 2005, is on the Texans' roster.
Which duo will do better this year? Peek/Orr or Thompson/Colvin?
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Didn’t know where to put this, but Justin Hamilton didn’t last long with the Redskins, he is now a free agent again.
Thanks…that probably would’ve slipped past me for a few days if you hadn’t mentioned it.
He was let go after the team signed a draft pick who was a safety from UCLA.
I’m going to put it out there again—I’d like to see Hamilton get another crack at playing for the Browns. It’ll give us more flexibility to try out Adams and/or Pool in cornerback situations without worrying about hindering our safety depth in training camp.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s probably getting funny if you’re a reader—I’m sure that on at least five occasions, I’ve made the same exact statement about the thought of signing Hamilton and the role he would play.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 17, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta think that Orr/Peek are young players reaching their peak, and Colvin’s past his….so I would put my money on Orr/Peelk
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Possibly, but on the same note, Orr’s production was declining in Houston to the equivalent of what Thompson’s production became in Cleveland. They each ended up being special teams contributors eventually.
If they cancel each other out, with Peek vs. Colvin, I think the pros have to favor Colvin until Peek can prove himself to stay healthy. Potential-wise, as a whole and long term though, I’d favor the Browns slightly.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 16, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Orrpeakeous Roye
Was a great defensive end. I vote for him!
You mean the guy who the announcers on CBS would always refer to as “the former Pittsburgh Steeler”, even though he had already established himself with the Browns for quite awhile? :p
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 16, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Tougher than I thought.
Originally, I wanted to go with the Browns’ duo. Then I thought about going with the Texans’ duo because of the prior success of Colvin. In the end I am going to vote that its a wash because of the schemes.
Colvin is 6’3”, 250. That is decent-to-good size for a SLB, but Colvin is apparently playing DE for Houston? He really has only had success rushing the passer in the NFL. He is OK against the run, but the Texans already have DeMeco Ryans at MLB as a run stopper, and 3 1st round picks on the line who can all stop the run, including Mario Williams, former #1 overall. Colvin’s weakness is pass coverage. If the Texans put him at OLB, teams will throw the ball and if they put him at DE, teams will run right at him. I’ll take Joe Thomas and Steinbach versus Colvin and Okoye on a run to the left any day. Unless the Texans plan to go with a blitz-happy Giants/Eagles type scheme where Colvin will line up at LB and rush the passer most downs, I don’t see him fitting in their scheme.
Peek, when playing in a 3-4, is better than Colvin in a 4-3, IMHO. As everyone knows, he hasn’t stayed healthy, so his advantage is negated by the fact he probably won’t be on the field for 16 games.
I say Orr and Thompson are of equal value, and both fit better in the schemes they are in now.
I really think this is not a good move on Colvin’s part. The only way it makes sense is if he knows he is getting old and just wanted the most money out there. He fits way better in a Fairbanks-Bullough system, and could also play well in one of the other two 3-4 schemes or a Jim Johnson/Steve Spagnolo-type blitz D. Oh well.
wrong question
you said:
Which duo will do better this year? Peek/Orr or Thompson/Colvin?
Real Question Peek/Orr or Mario/Colvin.
I think I don’t even have to answer that one.
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If you get into that territory, you can start saying things like Wimbley/Williams, which changes the scenario a tad too much :)
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 18, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

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