Browns Lose Out on LB Colvin

by ChrisPokorny on Jun 16, 2008 10:16 AM EDT in General News Comment 14 comments

The Browns can forget about signing Rosevelt Colvin. The former New England Patriots linebacker signed with the Houston Texans today after two weeks of negotiations.

The Texans are hoping that Colvin, 6-3, 250, can provide another pass rush off the edge that was missing since last season.

It's kind of ironic if you look at things this way: the Texans signed Colvin in search of a pass rushing threat they were missing last season.

Antwan Peek (2005): 6 sacks with Houston
Shantee Orr (2005): 7 sacks with Houston

Together, Peek and Orr were the team's best pass-rushing duo since returning to the league. They really only had some success in 2005, but now both men have been casted over to the Browns. On top of that, linebacker Chaun Thompson, who had five sacks with the Browns in -- you guessed it -- 2005, is on the Texans' roster.

Which duo will do better this year? Peek/Orr or Thompson/Colvin?

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Didn’t know where to put this, but Justin Hamilton didn’t last long with the Redskins, he is now a free agent again.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 16, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks…that probably would’ve slipped past me for a few days if you hadn’t mentioned it.

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He was let go after the team signed a draft pick who was a safety from UCLA.

I’m going to put it out there again—I’d like to see Hamilton get another crack at playing for the Browns. It’ll give us more flexibility to try out Adams and/or Pool in cornerback situations without worrying about hindering our safety depth in training camp.

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by ChrisPokorny on Jun 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes.

Give Hamilton a shot.

by rufio on Jun 17, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s probably getting funny if you’re a reader—I’m sure that on at least five occasions, I’ve made the same exact statement about the thought of signing Hamilton and the role he would play.

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by ChrisPokorny on Jun 17, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That, and playing Harrison more.

But they are both things the Browns really should do.

by rufio on Jun 17, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotta think that Orr/Peek are young players reaching their peak, and Colvin’s past his….so I would put my money on Orr/Peelk

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by BringBackKosar on Jun 16, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Possibly, but on the same note, Orr’s production was declining in Houston to the equivalent of what Thompson’s production became in Cleveland. They each ended up being special teams contributors eventually.

If they cancel each other out, with Peek vs. Colvin, I think the pros have to favor Colvin until Peek can prove himself to stay healthy. Potential-wise, as a whole and long term though, I’d favor the Browns slightly.

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by ChrisPokorny on Jun 16, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will take Orr and Peek just because Thompson is garbage

by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 16, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thompson/Colvin is probably a better, Orr/Peek has a better upside. Remember, we haven’t seen Orr/Peek behind a 3-4 D-line like ours.

by Estonianzulu on Jun 16, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Orrpeakeous Roye

Was a great defensive end. I vote for him!

by vincefitz on Jun 16, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You mean the guy who the announcers on CBS would always refer to as “the former Pittsburgh Steeler”, even though he had already established himself with the Browns for quite awhile? :p

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by ChrisPokorny on Jun 16, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tougher than I thought.

Originally, I wanted to go with the Browns’ duo. Then I thought about going with the Texans’ duo because of the prior success of Colvin. In the end I am going to vote that its a wash because of the schemes.

Colvin is 6’3”, 250. That is decent-to-good size for a SLB, but Colvin is apparently playing DE for Houston? He really has only had success rushing the passer in the NFL. He is OK against the run, but the Texans already have DeMeco Ryans at MLB as a run stopper, and 3 1st round picks on the line who can all stop the run, including Mario Williams, former #1 overall. Colvin’s weakness is pass coverage. If the Texans put him at OLB, teams will throw the ball and if they put him at DE, teams will run right at him. I’ll take Joe Thomas and Steinbach versus Colvin and Okoye on a run to the left any day. Unless the Texans plan to go with a blitz-happy Giants/Eagles type scheme where Colvin will line up at LB and rush the passer most downs, I don’t see him fitting in their scheme.

Peek, when playing in a 3-4, is better than Colvin in a 4-3, IMHO. As everyone knows, he hasn’t stayed healthy, so his advantage is negated by the fact he probably won’t be on the field for 16 games.

I say Orr and Thompson are of equal value, and both fit better in the schemes they are in now.

I really think this is not a good move on Colvin’s part. The only way it makes sense is if he knows he is getting old and just wanted the most money out there. He fits way better in a Fairbanks-Bullough system, and could also play well in one of the other two 3-4 schemes or a Jim Johnson/Steve Spagnolo-type blitz D. Oh well.

by rufio on Jun 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs