I hate Bud Shaw

by rufio on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 AM EDT

The internet is the place for random ranting and complaining, right?

I am thankful to have great reporters at the PD like Terry Pluto, and reporters decent enough not to suck 100% of the time like Toni Grossi. But let's be honest; Bud Shaw is terrible.

His jokes are catered to a snooty, upper class-type crowd, and aren't even all that funny. Meanwhile, you get the impression he thinks he is hilarious. You can see that graying mustache and those thick glasses giggling like a schoolgirl as he mocks pretty much every athlete in Cleveland. He likes to talk a lot of shit about athletes because they make so much money, thinking it will somehow endear him to a working class town like Cleveland. Then he makes beer jokes at the Dawg Pound's expense. He is worse than an elitist; he is an elitist posing as a working class dude.

I just can't help thinking that this guy is singlehandedly chasing LeBron to Brooklyn.

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Is Terry Pluto better at being a good reporter, or is Bud Shaw better at being a terrible reporter?

Bud Shaw is more terrible than Pluto is good

29 votes

Terry Pluto is more awesome than Shaw is terrible

36 votes

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great poll

i’d rank them
(1) doerschuk
(2) pluto
(3) finnan

the rest are all barely readable

get well windhorst.

by MJ32 on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions

How about Patrick McManamon of the ABJ? I do like Doerschuck’s work too—it’s just I forget to check out the Repository as much as I should.

Didn he used to write for ClevelandBrowns.com too? I swear I remember his name on the official site news postings several years back…

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions

I’ve never heard of Doerschuck—who is he and where can I find his articles? I would love to find a good cleveland sports writer.

Also, Windhorst is fantastic. Luckily, I know many websites with great baseball analysis. Football stuff is much harder to find (mostly because it doesn’t lend itself to statistical analysis the way baseball does).

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by Buckeye Brad on Jul 31, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions

A post from today by Steve: http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=17&subCategoryID=26

The blog he has that MJ32 just taught me about: http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?cat=14

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

speaking of Windy, is there an update on his condition? I respect his and his family’s privacy, but I’d just like to know more about how he’s doing.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions

i should clarify

ranking above is of browns beat writers. pluto is obviously a better sportswriter than doerschuk. but doerschuk crowbars in browns stories 3 times a week even in the offseason.

by MJ32 on Jul 31, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions

I don’t hate him [Shaw], but I never really read his articles anymore, even if I know they are related to a topic that may be of interest to me. Some writers just don’t fulfill my taste as well, so I guess his style has chased me away a little.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 AM EDT reply actions

I stopped reading Shaw and Livingston a long time ago. Pluto is the only reason I even go to cleveland.com any more (other than to read the comments section whenever I need a good laugh).

The Shin-Soo Choo of LGT.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I get angry when I read the comments section. I don’t understand where these people come from…they seem so much stupider on the internet than in person.

by gahnki on Jul 31, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually don’t laugh much…..it really makes me sad. I’m worried about the state of our country with so many supid people living in it. I guess they’ve always been out there, it’s just that the internet gives them the ability to show everyone how dumb they are.

The Shin-Soo Choo of LGT.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 31, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually, I suspect that you would probably find them pretty stupid in person as well, should you meet them.

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by woodsmeister on Aug 1, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

mcmanamon

is ok, but he seems to rarely hit on unique points, which pluto does constantly.

doerschuk just started a blog on cantonrep called Fresh Brownies. hes kind of a goof, and he can stick to the party line too long. but he strikes me as one of us.

for best overall sportswriter in cleveland, i’d go with abj’s brian windhorst. he can be harsh to the cavaliers players and organization, but dude is incredible in every category when it comes to nba beats.. writing style, game analysis, deep sources, objectivity, knowledge of the league, humor. if it wasnt for james, i think he’d be writing full time for espn already.

by MJ32 on Jul 31, 2008 1:51 AM EDT reply actions

Agree 100%

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions

Me too.

by kwoog on Jul 31, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions

Pluto is the king

Pluto is an excellent writer, irregardless of the subject. I’m just glad we’ve got him

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by BringBackKosar on Jul 31, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions

2 more good small paper writers

jeff schudel
http://morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19882197&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6

bob finnan
http://morningjournal.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=19868615&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=566374&rfi=8

by MJ32 on Aug 1, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions

Shaw and Livingston would write something smug and depressing about the Browns after a Super Bowl victory. They love playing on the fears of the Cleveland fan. Apparently they think making Cleveland fans miserable is the main part of their job description.

by Erie's Scribe on Aug 1, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions