Jets vs. Browns - Official Gameday Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
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| Date: | August 7, 2008 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 7:30 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | CBS |
| TV: | WKYC, Ch. 3 |
Favorite: | Browns by 4 |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 35 |
| Weather: |
76 Deg / Late Storm |
Injury Report: |
See Below |
| SBN Coverage: | (Jets Site Defunct) | My Prediction: |
Browns Win |
(The table layout above is credited to Pride of Detroit, our Lions' SB Nation affiliate. I'm using it until I have time to whip something up specifically for DBN.)
The Browns' first preseason game of the year will be a little overshadowed by the Jets' sudden addition of future Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre, who made the trip to Cleveland for a 6:00 PM press conference.
Nonetheless, our minds won't be focused on Favre, no matter how much it's talked about: we want to see what the 2008-2009 Cleveland Browns will bring to the table. We're not getting a full plate with players like Kellen Winslow and Lawrence Vickers scheduled to sit out, but the plate will still be more than satisfying.
Pre-Game Digest:
- If you overlooked my training camp battles article posted late last night (or early this morning, in reality), then check it out.
- A user over at the OBR posted a possible way to view the Browns / Jets game online if you are not a Cleveland resident. If you're going to try this, I suggest you try to install the software prior to the game starting.
- If you missed it, LB Beau Bell had his knee scraped and will miss at least two weeks. With that, David McMillan will probably get more of a shot at outside linebacker since Shantee Orr will be needed at both inside and outside linebacker after D'Qwell Jackson and Andra Davis leave the game.
- Remember, it'll shake out this way, roughly:
- 1st Quarter: Derek Anderson & First String
- 2nd Quarter: Brady Quinn & Second String
- 3rd Quarter: Brady Quinn & Second/Third String
- 4th Quarter: Ken Dorsey & Third String
- Last, but not least, let's hope for an injury-free game.
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns' first preseason game of the season, as they take on the New York Jets. All comments regarding the game as it goes on and immediately following the game should remain in this thread. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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On the poll earlier in the week, I said that I wasn’t that excited about the game tonight. However, all day today I’ve done nothing but think about this game and coming home to watch it. I cannot wait right now for football, no matter how little it really matters.
I wore my Browns hat and an orange shirt today…saw quite a few people downtown with some team gear on this morning too.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Another live feed, without downloading anything, that may work:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/elfietvs-show
Also, here’s an A+ edit of Brett Favre in a Packer uniform:
http://draftpick.deviantart.com/art/Brett-Favre-Jersey-Switch-94135426
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D-line with the road block, and Sean Jones the man coming in to hammer Clemons.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Dinkins isn't doing himself any favors
He just straight up stopped blocking on the 2nd running play.
DA looks good.
I hope we are just not blitzing at all because it is the preseason. The pass rush looks weak so far.
I have a full on erection right now.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
Well, I wouldn’t go that far now ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
When they drop that many guys back, I absolutely love it.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
In comparison, I’d have to imagine Charlie Frye wouldn’t have run the ball—and if he did, it would’ve been a chase-me-out-of-bounds rollout to the sidelines.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Our players just look like they are steaming with confidence—hell that felt like mid-season form (excluding the errant screen pass).
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We need more posters here.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
Regular season, they will come :D
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with football game threads is that non-local people can’t stay home and watch the game, so we have to head out to bars if we want to catch the Brownies
Text on mobile phones ;)
(I’m not sure if that’s possible, haven’t tried it)
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 8, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
SBN on mobile isn’t very friendly yet, but according to one of the SBN guys when the new formats were rolling out, they are working on a mobile platform for the site.
I have tried it on my blackberry and it is not good. Once it has a mobile version it will be much easier. Right now, ahhhh not so much.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 8, 2008 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s reportedly raining a little at the stadium. I’m on the West Side of Cleveland, but nothing here yet.
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Dammit…game delayed because of lightning :-/
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a bad thing in terms of a game sense. In the first preseason game, you want your starters to at least get a rhythm for a normal first quarter. Now, it’s like more of a scrimmage atmosphere of two half first quarters.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Side note: I liked both of Jason Reda’s kickoffs (one of my guys to watch).
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Are you serious? Its tough to say a lot, but on five runs, but the runs went for 3-2-4-1-0. If that pattern stays, I’ll take it.
They didn’t get any pass rush (but how much are they really blitzing in preseason?), but the run D looked good. The four yard rush was a FB handoff. The Jets didn’t get any push in the middle, got a little to the left side on one run.
I agree we didn’t get a pass rush, but I’ll wait to see a few more plays before making a negative assessment (not complaining about your tone; by negative I mean you saying you’re not happy with his performance).
I loved us bottling up the run plays—and Corey Williams actually got into the game on one play, didn’t he?
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Donovan said so, but I’m not 100% certain since the pre-game report said that he wouldn’t be playing. Of course, WKYC had Williams and Beau Bell in the starting lineup, so I’m doubting them a little bit.
Also, WKYC showed those defensive plays again against the run during this delay. Rogers was getting some really good push from what they showed. He was responsible for at least two of the tackles (even though he didn’t make the tackles) and was getting the center of the Jets line pushed back.
Are they not blitzing because its the preseason, or because its their philosophy? I think it might be the latter, for better or worse.
I hope you are wrong
but I think you are right. Hopefully we blitz a decent amount. Jones is a great blitzer from the safety position. Leon Williams can blitz too. I hope we send them.
Definitely not a student of the game at this point.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap, the field goal uprights have been bent. Has that ever happened?
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I loved his overly critical analysis of the Jets’ first offensive play of the game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Bright, sunnier skies on the horizon. Unsure whether or not the starters will return after the delay…
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Anderson is done for the night; Quinn coming in next offensive series. Some other starters are done; others, probably the corners and maybe some offensive linemen, will return for at least a series.
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Jets getting booed as they run back on the field. 10 minutes to warm up. 9:00 PM start time.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
“Now I see why they pushed so hard to get Favre”.
Love it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Good play for Terry Cousin…let’s see if he keeps it up.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And a fine catch at that. Check Plus thus far for Wilson ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Not yet…I need the 40 yard wheel route or the breaking-tackles screen play.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao…gotta love Joshua Cribbs. He suddenly inches closer to Wilson with that play ;)
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I’d have to check that another time, but on first look and first replay I’d blame Quinn for the interception rather than Steptoe. Out in front of him on a route I’m not really fond of…why run a slant right in the center of the defense? I agree with Bernie on those plays…
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Playing poker probably. Emulating Phil Hellmuth. The usual.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
A.J. Davis beat by Cotchery for an extremely easy touchdown, though it did look like Zack Sorenson bit for the playaction too much. Good execution from the Jets…and a taste of what we’ll have to look forward to if either Wright or McDonald go down.
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Sorry, Clowny caught it, not Cotchery.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I blew another name…meant “Nick”, not “Zack”...
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that it was Sorensen’s responsibility to play the middle third there. I am taping the game and can check later, but it looked like Davis tried to pass the WR off to someone, but no one was there.
Yeah, that’s what it looked like to me too. No way would Davis hug the sidelines and blatantly allow the receiver to have a wide open middle.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Steptoe showing that same burst he did at the fun night…
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Horrible camera angle for Quinn’s best play. Great catch for Wilson again (saw replay).
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Wright. Jason, Wright.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t stop laughing here…Kosar ripping Ratliff now and saying again how he sees why they got Favre.
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Lol, god he is brutal. So, you think Sorenson as a corner (where he wont bite on PA as often) would be better than at safety?
That’s kind of hit or miss right now; haven’t really seen enough of him to comment. White guys playing cornerback seems like a rarity though.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy doing Moo Radio is hilarious, or Bernie?
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I see. I considered doing some type of podcast some point after the game, but I haven’t tested out any software yet. Maybe next week or later this week…
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Bernie to deliver me a Georgio’s Pizza. Does their pizza taste good? Never had it…
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It tastes pretty cheap, if I remember correctly. I like Georgios, but I like all pizza. It wouldn’t be at the top of my list.
I’ve sorta boycotted pizza, as much as I love it, so that I can put the money towards other things. Looking for a cheaper alternative though ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. If anyone else has software suggestions, lemme know and I’ll look into them too…
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t tell…were the fans booing Nugent, or were they doing the classic “Nuge!”
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Holy smokes…is that 676 people in that ustream chat room? Must be a lot of out of towners…someone should give a dbn shoutout ;)
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I see the chat room, but not the video. Probably because I’m not logged in…
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
100 halftime comments? Not bad :D Though my own avatar DBN logo can be seen in about half of ‘em ;)
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Second half is underway. Crennel sounded pleased with the team’s first half efforts.
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USTREAM???
What is ustream? I am checking out the website now, but I can’t see anything Browns related. I live in Chicago and have no way to watch/listen to the game!!!! NFL ticket doesn’t even have pre-season
Nick
Thanks for the assist DaytonDogg. I had it listed in the fourth comment nick; you must’ve missed it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie sounds happy with the Ratliff’s play now. Getting giddy, lol.
At this point, I’m really not worried about us allowing big gainers…still trying to see if I get a peak at someone like Alex Hall though.
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i love you, man
Ha, yeah, I spent the first part of the game walking around Wrigleyville, Chicago hoping to find it on tv!! i was going nuts watching you guys on DBN and following it on NFL.com
I was going nuts!!!
Nick
Sheesh…Donovan’s right. Chase Pittman is huge now…
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I’ve noticed a few of your comments seem behind. What point of the game are you on?
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, what happened as you made that particular comment so I can compare.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a reference to the gaping hole that the Jets managed to run through on 2nd and 20 followed by a stupid penalty.
by Estonianzulu on Aug 7, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently far enough behind to miss whatever just happened. I just saw the offsides on McMillan
by Estonianzulu on Aug 7, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I just rewound my game and compared…you’re about 3-4 minutes behind.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
All right, Martin Rucker! Looked nifty enough and took a nice lick on his first catch…
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Bang…takes a helmet in the gut and it up-ended now.
Wilson and Rucker already growing on me.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if you compare the times in the posts on DBN, it’s about 3 minutes. Now sure why it’s off that much; usually a delay would be only about half a minute, right?
Though I really have no experience comparing live feeds and live over-the-air broadcasts…
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy, they are really working Charles Ali in this game, aren’t they? He’s been playing the whole game as far as I can tell…where’s Kolo Kapuini?
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On Quinn’s final pass of the drive (and possibly the game)—kind of a bad route having two receivers right on top of each other. That surely caused the defender to be in the right spot.
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It doesnt look like the receivers are helping him out much on the routes; seems like there is a lot of confusion in there.
HOWEVER! Good, efficient, price game for Quinn. I’m not terribly butt-hurt that this team has 2 quality qb’s on it’s roster.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 7, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have liked to see at least ONE long pass by Quinn. I don’t think I’ve seen him throw the ball more than 15 yards down field since he was at ND.
It seems like Chud gave him a few calls in the playbook too for that option, but each time he looked and looked before throwing underneath.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinn: 13-of-17 for 133 yards and a pick. Nice scramble for 11 yards. Not a great day because there were a lot of short routes, but efficient enough for a first preseason game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sheesh…Estonianzulu, nick, and DaytonDogg…you’re going to darn near have a heart attack when you see Jason Reda’s kick…
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He does continue to have impressive depth on his kickoffs though, and our kick coverage has been ace as usual.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
the video quality comes in and out and it was at a low point with the kick- bernie said it was very close though.
I keep watching on my clearer replay, and it still looks like it’s no good.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, but what happened to Dawson?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Aug 7, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No word, but he did both PATs. I just assumed we were seeing what the kid Reda could offer, especially in our stadium.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, it wasnt too bad. Im not really worried about our kicker.
by Estonianzulu on Aug 7, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I don’t know; that seemed pretty bad for a 26-yard make.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
rufio appears to be catching up throughout the thread ;)
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Bernie’s man-crush is in at QB now. He’s getting a little extra playing time as a result of the delay earlier.
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Wooo!!! Rucker lookin’ like a powerhouse. Good throw by Dorsey too, though a more savvy linebacker probably could’ve reached up and picked that one.
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Rucker looks really good. My expectations were quite low for him in this game because not much has been said about him in practice. He looks good, as does Wilson, and Louis Leonard. Pittman has shown flashes, but also has guessed and gotten pushed around a lot. We NEED an OLB to step up and get to the QB.
From my fun night assessment...
On the other end of the field, Reda was at work, and overall I was very impressed by the shots he was delivering through the uprights. His kicks from 40, 45, 50, and 55 yards were all perfect line drives through the uprights with room to spare. I didn’t get a great look at his kicks from when he moved to the right/left hashmarks, but I do think that he was not as strong as Dawson with respect to that skill.
Reda from 26 yards on the right hashmark: as bad of a make as you can get
Reda from 39 yards with the ball in the middle: drilled it perfectly
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Cargile was way late on Clowney’s second touchdown of the game…
I do think it’s one of the most puzzling things in football when I see the QB run a playaction fake while the running back is already blocking a blitzer basically…and then on top of it the defense bites for it.
None of the backup DBs have shown a thing today—Jereme Perry is not included in my statement (because he’ll make the team). It’s no wonder we haven’t heard about any sleepers…not when Clowney gets 163 yards on you.
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Has James been beaten at all?
He was in on the play you are referring to, but it was Cover 2 and you are right it was Cargile’s responsibility there.
It’s mostly seemed like Davis; haven’t heard James mentioned at all so either Ratliff wasn’t looking his way, or he’s been going a manageable job.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
2007 first preseason game: 17 comments
2007 season opener vs. Steelers: 117 comments
2008 first preseason game: 164 comments and counting…
Injury on the field for the Jets doesn’t look good. It’s like a funeral out there…
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Congrats Chris. I really like the SBN format and with some LGT contributors and your management, we have the potential to have a really strong site here.
It’s too bad a Tribe game wasn’t going on today; I would’ve been able to grab a larger bunch of chatters with a few link drops at LGT.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ted Dashier is not going to be a happy camper anymore, no matter how good the rest of our special teams plays were…
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Love Bernie talking about how Dorsey as a veteran really has a chance to methodically take apart this third string defense.
First play, he gets dumped for a sack again. Bad blocking though…
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How about the playcall too? Preseason game, 8 minutes on the clock, down by four only, deep in your own territory, 3rd-and-27, you usually don’t see teams go for the home run.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 7, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW! What a hell of a catch by Paul Hubbard…whew!
Not saying that’ll earn him a sudden roster spot, but that’s up there with Edwards’ one-hand snag from earlier.
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Looks like it’d make a pretty good wallpaper picture…or just to look at, at least:
http://photos.theobr.com/albums/2008/08/07-Jets/82208769_10.JPG
via the OBR…
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Meh, fun drive by Dorsey there; shame it ended with the pick. Let’s see if we can get our first defensive turnover of the game here…preferably a fumble or something.
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Alex Hall sighting…nice job flushing Ratliff the other way and allowing another defender to then make the stop. We’re getting the ball back if Lawson doesn’t muff the punt here.
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Steve Sanders and Efrem Hill making some really nice catches down the stretch here. Haven’t seen Lance Leggett report in yet, despite the praise he’s received in camp.
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The big gripe I take out of this game is the lack of execution on screen plays. Probably about four-five attempts during the game with none of them turning out very successful…
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Like Bernie said…how do you go from the 45-yard line to the 5-yard line when you’re 0-for-your-last-12 (Dorsey).
Fun game; would’ve liked to have seen Hubbard or Rucker pull in a catch at the end there though—they each had plays that would’ve quite frankly been gimmies to Edwards and Winslow.
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