Flash Package: Joshua Cribbs the Browns' Key Against Pittsburgh
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 14, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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"Powerful offense, porous defense."
Though there have been improvements this season on the defensive line, at least until the chemistry builds up (if it does), we're going to have to rely on shootouts. Considering our offense can't score on every possession to match what our defense gives up, we need an X-factor. That X-factor is none other than Joshua Cribbs.
When we lost to the Steelers 31-28 last November, how many solid offensive drives did we have?
One. That's right -- just one. It came on our first offensive drive of the game, consisting of 16 plays for 71 yards, and lasting nearly ten minutes. After that, the offense was shut down and the defense really couldn't stop Ben Roethlisberger. We survived on the kick returns of Cribbs.
After our first touchdown, the Steelers kicked a field goal. On the ensuing kickoff, Cribbs returned the ball 90 yards, setting up an easy touchdown pass to Lawrence Vickers. We later scored another touchdown after great field position following a Brodney Pool interception.
In the second half, the Steelers scored two touchdowns to take the lead. That lead didn't last too long though, as Cribbs had his ever-so-memorable 100-yard tiptoe kick return for a touchdown, putting us back on top at the time. Without Cribbs' ability, we very well could've lost 35-14. After missing last week's game against the Dallas Cowboys, fans have an even greater appreciation. Syndric Steptoe and Gerard Lawson were frustrating to watch on returns, because you could visualize Cribbs taking the same kicks an extra 20 yards at least every time. The big question, then, is this: is he ready?
"I'm ready," Cribbs vowed. "I feel I can be a difference in the game."
In order for the Browns to beat the Steelers, we're going to need more contributions from Cribbs than just kick and punt returns. We're going to need him on offense too.
With Donte Stallworth doubtful and unlikely to play for the second week in a row, we're in need of an extra weapon for Anderson. That has to involve Rob Chudzinski's "Flash" package that was on display throughout all of training camp. Although Cribbs has not had a lot of practice time lately, this is arguably the biggest game of the season for the Browns, and you need to bring everything you have to the table. I'm not saying every play needs to be a reverse to Cribbs or an option pass down the field to Braylon Edwards, but something needs to be in place to keep the Steelers' secondary off-guard. Head coach Romeo Crennel has already stated that Cribbs may not play the gunner position on kick return in hopes that he can be used in some of the offensive sets.
In the national spotlight, there's no better player than Cribbs to alleviate the pressure facing the rest of the team. Hopefully it's enough to finally defeat the Steelers, and regain our side of pride in this heated rivalry.
"Powerful offense, porous defense...and a great special teams."
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As always
Great post. Lets get this game going!
by OscarDog on Sep 14, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Donte Stallworth is really looking like the offense’s Antwan Peek. How do you pull a quad/groin enough to have to sit for 2 weeks?
Lets hope Cribbs is healthy. I feel like his injury (ankle sprain) shouldn’t hurt his north/south hit-the-hole-as-hard-as-I-can style as much as it would for a Donte Hall style runner. With all the WRs out with injuries, do you think we will line him up wide more than usual, Chris?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we’d have to. Steptoe and Sanders have literally no experience in regular season games at the receiver position, and in prime time and a rivalry game, we need someone who is not timid to take charge. Granted, Cribbs’ reps at receiver are limited too, but he is a playmaker.
I’d still like to see Sanders start, and work off of Cribbs in rotation or in the slot.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 14, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do I have this nagging feeling?
that Pittsburgh will play like USC and the Browns like Ohip State? Gosh I hope I am wrong but I got a bad feeling if the Browns dont take the game to the Steelers.
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because you are a Browns fan and you are resetting to your default feelings about games.
Nothing unusual.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets say yes, for the time being.
by Fundamentals on Sep 14, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cribbs is back. And the peasants rejoice
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor start by the offense. I have this recurring nightmare where the Anderson of the final four games last year is the real Anderson…
by Fundamentals on Sep 14, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the sunday night football extra online is pretty cool with the different cameras
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 14, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was pretty good coverage by Wright if thats what you are talking about. Great throw by ben though.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SACK!
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Williams, Sorensen and D’Qwell met together at the QB. Nice work, defense.
by Fundamentals on Sep 14, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DA is looking like he is TOO ready to take the easy, underneath throw again. He needs to look to attack, and then dump down AFTER the deep/main receiver isn’t open. D is looking great.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the aggressiveness there. Looks REALLY windy.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s have a talk about how much we absolutely must stay out of third and long tonight.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would have been fine if he would have just caught the ball.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see us rush more than 3.
And I think I just heard Madden woof.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The dropsies continue
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in golf terms
Braylon’s got the yips
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ol' Ben doesnt look too sharp. thankfully
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit Ben hard! Let him feel that shoulder!
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If theres on thing I know, its sore shoulders
trust me, that wind and rain will make him fell that shoulder plenty.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can keep stopping the run we have a chance because of Ben’s shoulder and the weather.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another drive, another third and long.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
P.S. Jerome Harrison has been in on a few tackles on special teams…
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
need to get kellen the damn ball. he’ll catch it.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hope Chud has a clue
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny how they’ve essentially, and rather discretely, swapped the roles of Harrison and Wright. Just a month ago Wright was the backup and Harrison was the third down back – and now it appears it’s been flipped.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harrison showed a bit more in preseason, I thought
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree and am completely happy with the move. I just think is interesting that they made the change late and after never really making it seem that the roles were up for competition.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why no screens?....slow down the rush Get some plus yards
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And… my cable just went out. I hate this wind…
by Fundamentals on Sep 14, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whew.
thought they had that. Good to have you back, Mr. Pool
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zastudil 3 punts in less than 8 minutes, averaging 52 yards
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aren’t they saying that it’s in to the wind too?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEVER RUSH THREE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL RUSH ZERO
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We could at least do all three from one side of the line or something.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see Pool is leading with his head after the concussion.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
following the Eric Lindros School of Concussion Recovery
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great! How often does Ward drop anything>
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he dropped at least two in the super bowl
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could have gone upfield there, Vickers? Or uhm, oh – nevermind.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should have lowered his head and picked it up. Maybe he saw the flag, otherwise that’s poor effort.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit chants have begun
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least the rain gives them an excuse this week.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible play call
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they are just playing field position right now. The D is playing well, now if we can flip the field on them we can score in the 1st half.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously, i agree. the pats (w/ brady) wouldn’t be afraid to just throw the ball up to moss 30 yards downfield there. do the same damn thing w/ edwards. their corners suck.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very disappointing drive
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers
cult classic horror flick
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for your quick response — nice work!
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did our Dline just get pushed back there or was that a zone blitz I saw?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michaels love to hear himself talk ............even when it makes no sense
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Madden, which somewhat explains the terrible logic.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see that Broncos game?
Stupid call. Just stupid. But it paid off.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes.
if only we had a secondary to match
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why, because that run would have gone for 40+ last year? Or because of the stop on 3rd and short against the steelers? Or are you being sarcastic?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i just mean in general. when 5 yards is a good run for the other team, i’m happy.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
could be all three
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought our run D was pretty good last week overall as well until late in the game.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m putting the line at .5 for first downs this drive. Over/Under?
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You should have put a line on number of plays for that drive.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean – we were probably going to punt anyway, so it wasn’t all that bad.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
braylon is going through the motions. every damn play.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stoptherunstoptherunstoptherun it’s all they have tonight. If we can get some of those long balls to go the other way (to us) we can win this game.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
qb-ing is the difference in this game so far…
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice tackle by Wright, terrible job by McGinest. He should know better, his only asset at this point is his mind.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
D is much less infuriating than last week
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they send in backups just to try to fight the other team just to get key players kicked out in this game. I would try to fight Ben or Holmes or Ward in this game.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How was that not also grounding? He wasn’t outside the pocket.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES
wow, you said it earlier, rufio, mcginest is supposed to be a heady player, and he should have fucked us there.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s been doing this for so long, and he has so little of his speed and explosiveness left…he’s got to use his brain. Got to. Savage has got to draft another OLB soon.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trickery and deceit will get you everywhere in football (on the field.)
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See: belichick, bill
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW.
I just went ballistic. Thank you to whomever called that TO.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steelers bullshit bit them in the ass their
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uh there
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah don't call any of that holding, zebras.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Always good to see an acquisition that works out
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i think i might go for thomas, now that you mention it.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
catching a football in the wind has got to be like hitting a knuckleball. It always looks like the receiver is aiming 2 feet away from where the ball ends up coming.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering that , too. At least the second.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking team is gonna give me a heart attack
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought he would win the “dirtiest player” award over Harrison
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when does ESPN do the "Biggest Dickhead" award? cause he's a shoo-in
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have never agreed with a comment so much in my entire life.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 15, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we seriously have a spy there!?!? Why!?!
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMMIT TO HELL
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did we just put a pick on our own player?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do the Browns have an answer or is it 10 straight?
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
take that meaningless commentary back to LGT
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No excessive celebration for Hines?
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK So if DA cant move it ..get BQ some reps...
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just no. We’re not there yet.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. cut that out right now. If its is like the Cowboys game last week with 5 mins to go in the 4th, then maybe. But down only 7-0, you stick with your guy. Unless they are going to Charlie Frye Anderson and go with Quinn. Was that confusing?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i said it back in june, but this line is wildly overrated when it comes to run blocking
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it looked like Polamalu was coming across to the FS’ side just to match up with him. It’s hard with Polamalu on him.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cribbs for the 1st
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, c’mon man… i’m 4 deep on leiny’s red right now… and pain killers for an operation two weeks ago…
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see…
Third and short. This is better.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice run by Lewis there
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steptoe absolutely cannot block at all… wow.
by Fundamentals on Sep 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vickers old=skools it for a 1st
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now this drive could be promising
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring in Quinn!!! He would have scored already.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit, suit up Jim Brown, he can probably still do short-yardage work
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s probably more rational than calling for Quinn because the steelers scored ONCE.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to point out that I suggested this last week and I stand by it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Polamalu looked pretty hilarious though.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
these seinfeld/MS commercials our unbelievably bad… what are you thinking, jerry?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's thinking, "ooo, what a big check!"
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s thinking “why the hell did I cancel my show?”
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s in the area of offensive holding and adding the fact that DA switched directions and had to break from the original plan…thats holding 90% of the time.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, no, I agree. I was sure it was holding too.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I just didn’t say it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ma needs to be smacked with a rolled up newspaper
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is there a more contemptable human being, in all aspects, than al michaels?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn you, Romeo
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, for the love of CHRIST
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
have to go to braylon in that situation
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, see below. want to apply for the coaching positions with me, RD?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering I am a bundle of nerves sitting at home, I’ll let you take the honors
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two hydrocodones and 5 Lienenkugel Reds does wonders for your nerves.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they dont sell Liney red here. Just Summer wheat
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SoCal
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys aren't nearly unimaginative or unorganized enough to be Romeo's coaches
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just terrible.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really? This is the team I waited all summer to watch? Christ.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear sir, please do shut up.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only play is to edwards there. the ONLY play
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this is going to be a trend, I would suggest ending it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we gona stick with DA while the season goes down the shitter?
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now, this team has MANY other problems besides him
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry the QB is the man in charge and he is showing his ass 2 INTs!!!
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think QBing is clearly the difference in this game so far. but this D is really showing me something, to be honest.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah!
I hate this team and this coach and Michael Phelps and the wind and especially ESPECIALLY the goddamn Steelers, every one of them.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Hines Ward and Troy Polamullet and Ben Backwardscap and all the rest of those fucking yinzers can eat me.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, its clear DA is costing us this one thus far. Our defense has shut this offense down given how mediocre it is.
by Estonianzulu on Sep 14, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so we continue down the path with DA?
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man, I think your records broken. Might want to fix it.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well come back with your answer mother fucker
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If our answer hasn’t been clear enough, here it is:
No.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhm, it’s the second game and we are only down 7-0. At the half. To the Steelers.
ARE YOU INSANE?
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so do the steelers have the wind in the third, with the ball?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
They deferred, so they get the ball and we get the wind in the fourth.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
game could come down to wind advantage. crazy.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose
But it seems more likely that the game will come down to the ability of Jamal Lewis to gain more than 1.66 yds/carry, our intermediate passing game to gel, and our D to continue to play well.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See above
for a total meltdown on my part
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.66? ouch.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, take out his 6 yard long and it’s 9 carries for 9 yards!
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well at least he's umm.....consistent?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't feel bad, Kellen
I was screaming you were open, too
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is a man-beast
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uh oh...Robaire is down
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I know what we really need: more injuries on the defensive side.
Yeah, that. Let’s have that.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh. Wonder where ol’ Pokorny is.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is why
Romeo Crennel should not be a head coach and Der"wreck" Anderson is a backup QB. How many times are the Browns going to look confused, not call timeouts, stupid ass pentalties and bad real bad INT’s
enough already, same old song and dance
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Sep 14, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well aren't you a ray of sunshine
Though Romeo IS on my last freakin’ nerve
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its called 43 years of this nonsence. It is old hat
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Sep 14, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
back breaker there. run the damn route far enough. shut up, madden.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another Punt. Romeo, you pussy
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, we got that!
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awww crap.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love another replay, and as many replays as possible in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Romeo wastes a timeout on this, I will flip
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*prepares for Dorn Flip*
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit. 47 yards.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Adams late coming over as the deep help, awesome job Adams.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
D’Quell Jackson knew where that play was going and he didn’t do shit.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d be all for putting Brady Quinn in…
On Defense.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
R.Smith is gone, C. Williams got injured too…why not?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is he at zone coverage?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you let a ball go through your hands?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That pic of Jeff Reed
is pretty funny, I must admit
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am quite certain he was either high or drunk during that photo session.
Or both.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering his reputation...
Google him and you’ll see how true that is.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone please step up and not shrink in the spotlight
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrible block by Steptoe, could have had another 5 yards
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is the kind of place where we miss Joe J or Rucker.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds of DA taking them down for a TD here....20 to 1
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Odds of you stopping talking about the QBs, worse than that.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA, yeah I am posting from Scappoose. No, I am just logical. You don’t change QBs in the middle of your best drive in the middle of your rivalry game when you are still in it.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odds of BQ taking them down for a TD here…Zero
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not pretty, but its working
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. 10 yard gain with the penalty
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
20, even
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WE LOOK LIKE A FOOTBALL TEAM.
AND I LIKE IT.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Braylon seems to have woken up. A little.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spoke too soon.
You know in Madden, whenever Braylon goes over the middle Collinsworth won’t shut up about how tough and awesome Edwards is and how he isn’t afraid to take hits…I wonder what he would say now.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just loft it in the air to Braylon with his 99 hops and 100 spec catch
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was gonna say he’s holding on to it now, but then he dropped another one
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
I think on the balance, Savage has done well. And you can’t plan for things like losing both Jurevicius and Stallworth to injury. But it seems like we have absolutely no depth, and when starters are hurt or just suck, we have no plan.
Oh, and Madden needs to stop fellating Polamalu. I can’t believe they replayed that highlight of him diving over the line of scrimmage to TACKLE NOTHING BUT AIR!!
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would really help to have any of these players on offense:
Jurevicious
Tucker
Rucker
a Travis Wilson who actually panned out
an Issac Sowells who actually panned out
a Paul Hubbard who pans out
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure do miss TD Joe
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF!
TAUNTING PENALTY.
Thank you Zebras.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they really should call several of those EARLY to set the tone in this game. They know all sorts of dirty shit is going to do down in this game, and if they want to control it they should set the tone early.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from their huddle. awesome.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kellen dropped the ball there, at least Steptoe was weak-side
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually meanton the play before to lewis for 5 yards
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Jamal Lewis broken a tackle in the last two years? Seriously, you don’t even have to wrap him up. Just run into him and he goes down!
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would line Winslow out wide here with Braylon in the slot, Braylon running a fade crossing kellen on a post.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy God.
I take back what I said about looking like a football team. Now we just look like the Rams on a good day.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stupid penalties will be the death of us
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF call was that, go for the end zone Romeo
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate the lack of guts our coaching staff has shown so far this season
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe one of the worst calls/executions in that senario possible.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, that was terrible
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey at least we got points. One huge Josh Cribbs return and this thing is tied up.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d enjoy an interception on this next drive.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d enjoy just getting the ball back with the score at 10-3.
But, I think I am clearly asking for too much.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gutless, Tressel-like playcalling
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that could have been huge. I’ll take them at their own 3 though.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets go for the safety
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How horrible has the Steeler’s return game been today??
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
back breaker. god i hate this fucking team
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he had ALL FUCKING DAY. And Mike Adams on the coverage AGAIN.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what in god’s name was eric wright doing there? covering 30 yards w/ no steeler anywhere in sight?
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wright was in his zone, that was Adams fault, turning and running with his back to Roethlis
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but the end zone cam showed no one was in front of him “in his zone.” head on a swivel, dammit.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Adams still has to cover better than that. And we still can’t give benny 8 seconds in the pocket.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so done with this
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And to that asshole Ward. I can hear my blood pressure rising
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adams just got stiff-armed by a WR.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lining up in the neutral zone should be a fine everytime.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex Hall looking pretty good on that play
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, I wasn’t able to watch a single snap last year because of work.
I’m beginning to think it was much, much better for my health.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We look a LOT better this week. Yes, I am serious.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know. I watched last week.
I simply meant that not watching the games last year seemed to work out. I blame myself here.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silver linings
Our run defense is much better this week.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know our secondary is thin when Sorensen is making plays.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, lucky. Cousin wasn’t even looking
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, really surprised Rodgers didn’t get called there.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god. Cribbs just got hammered.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh, that looked like a concussion type hit
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure you want BQ to come in for Cribbs since he hasn’t returned a kick tonight.
Am I right?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU FOR ACTIVATING JEROME HARRISON.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone pour out some of your 40 for Chris.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needed to throw that after 3 steps and he knew it. Where is the audible?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear God are we converting these third downs or WHAT.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we could start converting on 2nd down it would be awesome for my heart rate.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and for my beer supply
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice toss to Braylon
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too m any runs, how many times do i have to say it
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’re eating up so much of the clock….
I mean, this is the game right here. Honestly.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and for my beer supply
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are we running.
The clock is now a huge issue, btw.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So now what, Romeo?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know..but if he'd ball'd up and gone for it, wouldn't have blamed him
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey at least he threw to the outside slant as Kosar talked about all preseason.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kinda wish we'd go for the 6 here
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not, and never will, understand that second down call. Ever.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if Heiden doesn’t get thrown right in to Lewis, it sets up 3rd and 1 or 2 tops. Then we have the edge.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shit, I thought we had 7 not 3 points. Yes, we needed to throw on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. My bad.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t begin to describe how terrible I think that call was on second down and 10 to run
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Braylon doesn’t look like he’s thrilled with it either
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many trips to the Red Zone? How many TDs? Gosh why are the FANS booing?
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um…because they wanted them to go for it on 4th down??
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am intrigued by your comments, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for the Simpsons reference
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, NO ONE HERE AGREES WITH YOU. If you want to think they should play Quinn right now, go ahead and think it. If you are looking for people to agree with you, you are obviously barking up the wrong tree.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, I really don’t know what purpose that served.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bets on if Romeo knows how to use his timeouts at this point in the game?
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well great, I have to go to work now. Thank you Browns for sending me off in such a good mood
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
offense has scored 6 points in 54 minutes. story of the game.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LIKE I SAID…
Too cute by half.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, ROmeo’s stupid formation cost us 5 yards as well
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh will not be afraid to throw, we need to be ready for it
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how do the coaches not know the rules?!?!
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate sequels
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that’s exactly what happened.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do we replace him with?
Lynch?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ty Law? Bryant? Anyone who can cover? Quinn?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think the goat regardless of the outcome is Romeo/Chud
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, what happened to Chud? Romeo has always been criticizable, but Chud?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am trying to remember when we threw it more than 15 yards downfield.
Did we? Despite the weather….
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAs pick was further than 15 yards. We have had some “bad DA”, where is the ridiculously good DA? They usually switch places every other play.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, that’s once vs. how many countless times last year in each game we won (games in snow not withstanding)
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Sean Jones,
You should have had surgery as soon as you got hurt.
Love, Rufio
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Romeo botched the timeouts. Bettors collect your money, you were all correct
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
romeo treats time outs like they are chocolate chip cookies
by mpstable on Sep 14, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
He should be stripped of all time-management responsibilities.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
open field tackling drills for Pool on Monday
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, this is the kind of coaching that warrants being fired
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The D has played MUCH better this game, the O has been as terrible and timid as the 1st game.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Wow. Look, I’ve been around here (and LGT) for a long long time, although I just reregistered under a new name. Believe me when I say I’ve always been the last guy to advocate blaming the coach or manager. But Romeo has been truly awful, AWFUL, managing the game.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me pop in for my first comment in the thread to say “Ditto.”
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
by zempf on Sep 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a buddy at the collider doing tests. It has not destroyed the world yet.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will get trashed in the press for this (and looking at his face right now, he knows it). There is nothing more easily criticized than time mismanagement issues – it’s just so blatant.
by DrewskiC on Sep 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andra Davis, 5 yards past the line of scrimmage again, same ol
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GO AFTER THE BALL. WHY ARE WE NOT GOING AFTER THE BALL?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
forget Quinn, can we get Flutie or Robert Horry in at QB?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahahahaaha. Robert Horry.
Hahahahahahaahaha. He just makes me laugh.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lay this one on the offense boys. going for it on 4th and 7 seems more and more sensible.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I totally thought we had 7 and not 3 points for some reason. We should have thrown every singe play.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mike Adams
Sit down and shut up.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
26 seconds. We need a miracle.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
by zempf on Sep 14, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go ahead Mike Adams, celebrate. Because you have been beat every which way all night long. You, Mike, suck.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let him enjoy his last good play in the NFL
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
by zempf on Sep 14, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHA
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was.. poor.
http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com -- just in case.
by zempf on Sep 14, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. what an appropriate end to an overall shitty game experience
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They don’t know how to win big games yet. That is pretty evident.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Browns lay a big fat egg on national TV. At least I didn’t have to go to a sports bar to watch it.
Who had the worse night, Lehman or Crennel?
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that sucked. See you guys week 3.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
by BringBackKosar on Sep 14, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I shall leave you losers to discuss all the problems the Browns have except
their sorry assed QB. Wake up .! There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, now would be the appropriate time to think about changing QBs. That being BETWEEN GAMES.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you would never replace a starter for non performance in game ?
by Juannieboy on Sep 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the Quarterback (who is by far the most important and fragile) DURING the game. We have 2, and one of them obviously needs to go at some point. But we were in this thing till Ben rolled out and hit someone Mike Adams was supposed to cover. You don’t replace a QB when you are anywhere close to the other team in score.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Browns seem to have the same problems regardless of the coordinators; could the head coach be the problem?
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you insane, seriously? we gave up 10 points. if you think that’s the “same problems,” you’re even dumber than your comments suggest.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mel Tucker had his guys ready to play today.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 14, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we did score a ton more points last year. The D held them. The O couldn’t do a thing.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The D actually looked decent. I mean if you aren’t winning every game, you seem to have the same problems. That is to say if you can do certain things, you will win. Rush/protect the passer, catch things that hit you in the hands, win the short yardage situations, win the TO battle, and make tackles.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben averaged almost 10 yards per pass attempt; DA was at about 5 and threw 2 picks.
Which defense was better?
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was the rain!
Look at the stats. The defense was not so effective.
by ploni on Sep 14, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and i’m waiting for some arcane schedule stastic that gratuitously predicts a bad outcome for the browns.
come on, you know you have one, just like you have 30 ever ready for the tribe at LGT.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. revert to last year’s offense
2. get rid of staph in all our facilities
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my solution is to score more than 6 points from a team that averaged 20+ against them last year.
the fact is you wouldn’t have commented once in this game if we had won by 10. you’re a gratuitous debbie downer, you didn’t post once on LGT between sept and oct last year. your schtick is tired and annoying.
by kwoog on Sep 14, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My ability to comment depends on my travels. You’ll be glad to know I won’t be watching the game next week. I do hope the Browns catch the rested Ravens off-guard.
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
travel or not, your game is transparent.
by kwoog on Sep 15, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’ve posted close to 500 times on LGT, and 60 on here. we all know how many times it was positive and/or even neutral.
honestly, that’s the problem with having all your comments on record. go whine somewhere else.
by kwoog on Sep 15, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put Romeo on the horse trailer
Romeo and a picture of a clock.
by exposition on Sep 14, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does Tomlin have the guts to give RAC a gameball
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to give credit to the D minus Mike Adams for playing a hard-nosed game
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There were a lot of ways for the first two games to go this year, but I’m going to say…
This is just about the worst they could have. I really don’t think we’re a bad football team and I’m not done with this team this season, but man. Those two games were disheartening to watch.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 14, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game could have gone much, much worse.
We could still go 9-7, which would be just fine for me. We just need to upset somebody now.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along those lines, we lost to the NFC favorite, and what appears to be the AFC favorite. 0-2 sucks, yes. Maybe it took this to shake everyone out of feeling like they had a right to the playoffs and like they didn’t have to earn it. Maybe they can finally wake up and take the chances at the big plays like they did last year.
Chud, now would be a good time to step the f@$k up.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Condolences
Hey, I am a Steelers fans, but I went to Case Western, in East Cleveland. I feel for you guys, your coach cost you ANOTHER game. Your loss is our gain, good luck til game 16.
by vin2k on Sep 14, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just lose enough to make week 16 interesting and give us a shot at the division, cool?
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On his post-game show, Jerry Rice calls the game BOR-ING.
by palcal on Sep 14, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope Randy Lerner learned his lesson extending a coach after 1 good season
by Roger Dorn on Sep 14, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, we can fire him at any time with no penalty to the Browns the football team. Learner might end up paying millions, but it doesn’t hurt the actual team financially to fire him.
I hope that if RAC does get the axe (I don’t think he does unless he goes 0-5) that Savage gets to stay around.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible football weekend.
See you guys next week.
by rufio on Sep 14, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
get use to these weekends, The Romeo dog show continues into Baltimore,
Ravens 16 Browns 12, 4 Dawson field goals
Go get em Romeo and De"wreck"
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Sep 14, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought the biggest play was not falling on the loose ball on the kickoff. that would have been huge.
by Gradyforpresident on Sep 15, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
predictions
Week 2 vs. Steelers Prediction Face it…we suck! The supposed prolific Offense last year was against mediocre teams at best. Tonight the Steelers will dominate us. We are their little bitch and have been for what feels like forever!
How about a 35-6 shellacking? Kind of like Ohio State got raped by USC last night. Standby…Browns will get raped by the Steelers.
What would make you think we could beat them? Crennel is 0-6 against them and what I saw last week, hahahahahahahahahaha!!! I have awoke from my dreamworld fantasyland where the Browns make the playoffs and it won’t be this year.
Prediction…Browns go 5-11 and Crennel (Mr. Motivator Extraordinaire) gets fired this year!!!
We have the talent just not the right motivator…look for Cowher to be the 2009 Browns Head Coach!
I guess I wasn’t to far off!
by BROWNS GREATEST SEASONS 1996 1997 1998 on Sep 14, 2008 1:25 AM EDT reply 0 recs
by BROWNS GREATEST SEASONS 1996 1997 1998 on Sep 15, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyone: Sorry for not getting an official game thread up. I’d been in the process of composing it around 5 PM EST, when my power zapped out. It is still out this morning, and I had to watch the game at a friend’s house.
Dawgs By Nature - Find out why Pittsburgh still sucks.
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 15, 2008 7:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This morning's headlines
I was hoping to read this morning that Crennel was fired.
by ploni on Sep 15, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just read through the whole game thread, was out at a bar for the game.
Got to give big props to my man Roger Dorn for having a good thread. Made a lot of salient points. I’m thinking that this is a team that has made very little progress against good teams since RAC has been head coach. They may have improved against poor teams but they still look clueless against the class of the league.
The offense doesn’t seem to be aware that if they don’t perform at a high level, we’ll go 4-12. We need them to outscore people and be aggressive. I lay a lot of the blame at the feet of whomever drew up the gameplan for this contest.
- The Steelers were minus their number 1 corner and we didn’t exploit that.
- The best way to neutralize Polamalu is to look for him matched up against Winslow and wear him down in pass coverage.
- In my opinion, they ran the ball too much in 1st and 2nd and long situations. This caused a lot of unmanageable 3rd and longs in which the Steelers brought pressure and Anderson was forced to make a quick decision.
- Through two games against top-15 defenses, I would argue Derek Anderson is not an NFL-caliber starting quarterback. It might be that he’s a good backup who can toast a lousy secondary (Cincy, St Louis) and that’s it.
- As I mentioned before, Dorn already pointed out that Crennel cannot manage the game. It seems to me that he waits until after the play is blown dead to decide to use a timeout. This usually ends up costing the Browns 6-8 seconds. Because of these game management issues, I’m going to try and go back and look at the game on tape later this week and diagnose some of the mistakes.
- There’s a small part of me that wants them to start 0-4 and fire Crennel during the bye week. I have doubts about his ability to manage an offense and no confidence in his ability to manage a close game. Another benefit of 0-4 is that we might see Quinn, which would interest me, given Anderson’s early season struggles.
Bottom line, I think the Browns have a LOT more question marks on the offensive side of the ball (and in the coaching staff) now than they did two weeks ago.
by NickFantana on Sep 15, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks man, I echo your sentiments here. I don’t see Crennel being fired midseason, but I also don’t see us starting 0-4. I honestly believe we win the next 2 and go into the bye 2-2, which is where we started last year.
by Roger Dorn on Sep 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just said this in the new FanShot about Robaire but I’m thinking this game in Baltimore is going to be an all-out war. The Ravens would improve to 2-0 and be in pretty good shape divisionally. We’re only getting more banged up as the games go on.
Currently, Vegas has us as three-point dogs. I think that line will move up to 4 or 5 as the injuries are listed.
Like I said in the above comment, I want to go back and watch the game again, hopefully try and quantify all of the bitching about clock management into a cohesive narrative.
by NickFantana on Sep 15, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we can get to the bye week at 2-2 we will be fine. Hell, even 1-3 is recoverable. San Diego is 0-2. Indy looks lost (4th quarter aside). New England is done (Not buying the ESPN Matt Cassel is actually good crap). Jax is 0-2. This season is just started.
Oh and by the way, there is no way Big Ben lasts the season with that blocking. He took an absolute beating last night. That shoulder is not healthy and it is only week two. I put the over/under at week 7 for a prolonged Byron Leftwich sighting. We just gotta keep the Steelers in sight.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 15, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on Cassel. Randy Moss looked frustrated already, Cassel is very content dumping off to an RB or short pass to Welker every time if possible. That won’t cut it against some teams.
by Roger Dorn on Sep 16, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“- There’s a small part of me that wants them to start 0-4 and fire Crennel during the bye week.”
Please tell me it is a very small part of you. Like every Cleveland fan, I believe our sports teams “rebuild” too much (I’d prefer "winning"). I would much rather have us rally to go 2-2. After that, the following teams are definitely beatable:
Washington
Buffalo
Tennessee
Baltimore
Cincy
Houston
which would put us at 8 wins. To make the playoffs, we might only have to upset one or two of the following:
Indy
Jax
Den
Pit
NYG
Philly
And after watching the Colts and some of Jacksonville’s performances this season…it’s doable. Plus, you never know when one Josh Cribbs return, or one terrible kick in Cleveland in December can change a game.
You (and Dorn?) make a good point that we are not beating the best teams, the types of teams we would need to beat to get to the Super Bowl. We always seem to have a shot at the steelers, even when they are one of those elite teams but aside from them we really haven’t been there with an elite team.
But it has been a LONG time since the Browns have even been in the playoffs. We need to make that step first, and then think about how to beat those elite teams. Most years, that just means taking care of business against the crappy teams. If we do that last year, we make the playoffs even though the best team we beat was the Seahawks. I would love to be in that elite tier and be competing with the best in the NFL, but I can’t see why anyone would expect a jump from “team that has only made the playoffs 1 out of 10 years” to “Super Bowl contender”.
I agree that we need to get a look at Quinn, and that becomes problematic when we are competing.
by rufio on Sep 15, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your post. However, I would clarify that if they were to fire Crennel or start Quinn, it wouldn’t signal a rebuilding but a refocusing. I think it’s very possible they could hire a veteran coach during the bye week, Schottenheimer comes to mind immediately, who would be an immediate upgrade over Crennel in clock and game management.
Keep in mind, I’m only advocating this if the offense continues to be awful and get no support from the head coach, vis a vis fourth down situations and clock management. If we only manage 16 more points in the next two games and fall to 0-4, then the scenario I painted above seems at least plausible and at least a little appealing, no?
by NickFantana on Sep 16, 2008 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After an 0-4 start, absolutely. I think that’s probably the cutoff for me. 1-3 losing to the two current Super Bowl favorites, I am still hopeful we can right the ship. We get to at least see Quinn and get a feel for who we should keep and probably a better grasp on what sort of draft picks/players we can trade for under your scenario. But that’s the silver lining, it’s still a big, crappy cloud.
If we do fire Crennel and bring in the RIGHT guy, things could transition smoothly and playoff hopes could be high next year (a "refocusing"). Mike Tomlin stepped in with out much of an adjustment period. He was also alright with the best coordinator on the team (LeBeau) doing his thing. Would Marty come in and want to give our team an old Woody Hayes look? I think you would agree that we are not built for 3 yards and a cloud of dust. There might be someone out there, and I am not going to pretend like I know.
I have no problem with getting a look at Quinn pretty much any time other than during a steelers game when we are still in it. If this game would have looked like game 1 last year, I would have been calling for Brady bigtime. If we choose to get rid of RAC, we need to be more careful about how we do it and who we bring in. His clock management in the game was inexcusable, and Al Michaels would have done a better job but there are still some negatives involved in firing him.
by rufio on Sep 16, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
p.s. thanks for being a rational person.
by rufio on Sep 16, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
p.p.s. Sorry about the triple-comment, but I thought this needed to be said after rereading everything. We might just need to bite the bullet and do both of these things sooner rather than later. If we get to the point where we are in the playoffs every year but can’t win IN the playoffs, and Crennel or DA need to go, it might set us back further. There are several anecdotal cases of the opposite of this happening (Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, but both juries still out in my mind) but it’s worth considering.
by rufio on Sep 16, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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