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What you might see from the Baltimore Ravens

This is in no way meant to be a trash-talking post.  I just thought you might like to know.

On Offense - Protecting and developing rookie QB Joe Flacco is almost as important as winning the game.  This wasn't a year the Ravens planned to contend, but Flacco is absolutely instrumental to our future.  This showed in the offensive gameplan against Cincinatti, where the Ravens ran 46 times.  That said, the Ravens offense should look eerily familiar, as Offensive Coordinator Cam Cameron was the former mentor of the Browns OC Rob Chudzinski, including the unbalanced offensive line.  With former Bengals T Willie Anderson scheduled to play Sunday, there is some speculation that the Ravens will have sets where a Tackle reports eligible.  Most people seem to think it will be RT Adam Terry reporting eligible, but I suspect it might be LT Jared Gaither, who at 6 foot 9, could be a surprising pass catcher, especially in the end zone.  In any case, our offensive line is young and athletic.  They absolutely dominated the Bengals converting a perfect 6 out of 6 3rd and 1 conversions.  While both both of our starting tackles are question marks in pass coverage, we probably have one of the best interior offensive lines in the NFL. I noticed people ripping on Rexx for claiming this, but Guards Ben Grubbs and Marshall Yanda are tough players that rarely make make mistakes, and Jason Brown was named as an all-pro by SI last year as a guard (Dr. Z referred to him as a human bowling ball.  To me, the Shaun Rogers verses Jason Brown matchup will be one of the most exciting when the Ravens have the ball (I like line grudgematches).  In the passing game, we've so far relied on short passes, quick drops, the shotgun formation, no-huddle, and screens.  Flacco's largest completion against the Bengals was for 15 yards, although he underthrew a deep pass that had TD written all over it.  The key for Cleveland (this is kind of obvious) will be to force Flacco to win the game.  If the Ravens can make their gains with runs and screens, they'll keep beating it in all night.  Cincinnati controlled the ball for less than 7 minutes in the second half two weeks ago.  Obviously our passing game, quarterback (and WRs) are our biggest weakness, but I honestly don't know how weak they are, as they haven't really had many opportunities.  TE Todd Heap was terrible against Cincy, but I expect that was just a little rust and a lot of statistical noise, he has had two whole weeks to stew over it.

On Defense:  Everyone knows what the Ravens defense is about.  And everyone knows who Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are, so I won't go into that.  Our Defense was 6th in the NFL in yards allowed last year, but still was a disappointment due to a severely injured secondary.  Neither Chris McCallister nor Samari Rolle played 8 games last season, but both will play Monday.  In addition, Ed Reed will play despite his injury, although he likely won't be doing much hitting, instead being held back to play center field (which was usually his job last year).  Fabian Washington, who the Ravens brought in for CB depth last year, will most likely not be ready to play, as he is still recovering from a neck injury.  I believe that Ravens nose tackle Kelly Gregg is one of the (if not THE) most underrated player in the NFL.  Although he never has made a pro-bowl, he regularly stops running plays dead cold, often making the tackle himself despite being double teamed.  However, he is ruled out on Sunday due to a knee problem.  His replacement, Justin Bannan, is not much of a break for Cleveland, as the kid is very strong.  Our weak point is definitely our corner backs, but Samari and Chris are quite good, and will play through pain.  If I were Cleveland I'd try to play out of 3WR 1TE 1RB sets to attempt to expose our nickel backs, as they are not very good players (Nickelback Fabian Washington is good, but he is doubtful for Sunday).  A good 3rd WR would severely expose our lack of depth at corner.  That being said, what do the Browns have behind Edwards and Steptoe if Stallworth and JJ don't play?  Kellen Winslow is definitely our biggest matchup problem, but SS Dawan Landry is really quite a good player, and the Ravens may employ a linebacker to hit Winslow at the line of scrimmage and then use Landy in coverage.  Defensive Coordinator Rex Ryan lives and dies by the blitz, and we may well need it verses Clevelands excellent O-line.  That being said, I'm a bit disappointed Eric Steinbach may not be playing (This is something I don't understand, why would a player be unable to practice for 3 straight days and then be listed as QST instead of DBT?).  I was looking forward to the Steinbach match-up verses Haloti Ngata.

I do believe this team is better than last years team was.  Trevor Pryce, Samari Rolle, Chris McCallister, and Todd Heap all being healthy works wonders for the teams performance.  In addition, Joe Flacco may be a rookie, but he simply can't perform worse than Steve McNair did the first half of last year.  I think this Ravens team has improved at least slightly at the QB, RB, OL, TE, DL, and CB positions due to players coming back from injuries or replacements coming in, or in the case of the Oline, a better coach and some added experience for rookie players.  This is not to say that the Ravens will return to 2006 form, but this is a much tougher game for the Browns than it was last year.

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I don’t dispute that Brown, Yanda and Gurbbs are talented young guys. I just don’t think that Petko and John Thornton are exaclty all-pro competition to compare with Rogers.

I would love to have Grubbs on the Browns, I just thought he would instantly step in and become Steve Huchinson, which hasn’t been the case. Perhaps that was unfair.

I think a much more fair comparison to make is the interior of your line vs the interior of the Cowboys’ line; if Rogers looks pretty good against a verified all-pro C and LG, I think it is a little irrational to believe your OL will completely neutralize him without using more blockers. Davis and Gurode also outweigh Brown and Grubbs by 36lbs, according to ESPN. I’m not predicting 3 sacks or anything, I’m just saying it won’t be complete Raven domination.

As for the other side of the ball, you are correct about Gregg being underrated. Although he might become the new guy who is so underrated he gets overrated. Regardless, he is a good run stopper and I am glad he won’t be playing. Ravens fans tend to flip out about Rolle sucking, but he is a decent #2, and I am glad you think so. Braylon shouldn’t have a problem getting open on either DB, but if he catches like he has the past two weeks you guys won’t have to bother. Landry is a good safety and was a great pick where you got him, but he is not a healthy Ed Reed, and he can not cover Kellen Winslow. I would be really really excited to see Harrison and Rucker play a decent amount this week, because you guys have matchup problems with both of them too if you blitz like you like to.

Does someone want to start calling for the Jerome Harrison screen now just to get the ball rolling?

by rufio on Sep 20, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, no question that Shaun Rogers is (at least right now) an elite player who causes major problems for opposing defenses. This is, of course, assuming that he keeps up the effort he’s been putting in this year and doesn’t resume taking games off like he had with the Lions. I’m not trying to argue that the Ravens O-line were going to be able to erase Shaun Rogers, but instead that they were a talented group of players who were going to keep it interesting. The Cowboys comparison goes both ways in my opinion. Certainly the Cowboys have an elite offensive line, and better than the Ravens. However, the Ravens will be playing at home, whereas the Cowboys played at Cleveland. That’s going to make calling protections and snap counts easier on the offense.

As for Rolle, I do like him and think he plays a very important part of our defense, even if he is declining.

Landry is clearly no Ed Reed, and, like I said, Winslow is our biggest matchup problem, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Winslow get double teamed by Landry for coverage and a linebacker at the LOS. That’s hard for anyone to get by. Ed Reed’s injury, btw, doesn’t mean he is not at full strength. He has a full range of motion and activity, but could reinjure easily if he’s put in heavy hitting situations. He’ll be fine in deep coverage.

Screen passes are certainly annoying for the 3-4, but Rex Ryan held back the blitzes against the Bengals, so if he’s expecting a lot of screen plays and such, he may hold the blitzes back again. Rucker, unfortunately, is out for Sunday. We’ll have to wait to see him play.

by math_geek on Sep 20, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

p.s. we have no wideouts after Braylon. If Stallworth doesn’t play, we have Edwards, Cribbs, and Steptoe (who is terrible). JJ is out, and there is some mystery surrounding his surguries so we don’t know if he will ever be back.

by rufio on Sep 21, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair argument, but...

…Shaun Rogers will need a lot of help and with the other defensive injuries the Browns have had, I don’t see where it will come from. Therefore, we can afford to double Rogers and make the others beat us. Braylon always has good games against us, but between his injuries and dropsies I’m hoping he doesn’t produce like he can. K2 will be a big test, but here’s predicting that the Ravens get to Anderson consistently to not afford him the time to find those guys with any regularity. At the same time, I’m also hoping for some turnovers and a short field to make it easier for the Ravens offense, which plans to force the ball down the Browns gullet through their new three-prong rushing attack, mixed in with short to mid-range Flacco passes. If Flacco stays out of trouble, I fully expect the Ravens come away with a well deserved victory on Sunday. Feel free to come to my site to rub it in if not.

Rexx

by Rexx on Sep 20, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kellen, Jamal Lewis, and one other person will need to step up and have a big game for us to win. I didn’t realize Braylon’s injury was actually something that will affect his play. Jerome Harrison could be the 3rd guy. Stallworth could be the 3rd guy. Maybe Braylon will fight through it (or just not be in pain) and be the 3rd guy. Old DA doesn’t need time to find Kellen, because Kellen is always open and old DA isn’t afraid to gun it in there. Hopefully Chudzinski will find his brain and come up with some things to slow down the pass rush. I can think of a few, and most of them involve Harrison.

Defensively, Rogers’ job is to get double teams. If you don’t double, he is supposed to make a play. If you do double, someone else is supposed to make an easy tackle. I think everyone that knows anything about the Ravens knows that they can run the ball, but aren’t that great at passing and have a rookie QB, and questionably talented WRs. If I am the Browns, you guys are seeing 8 man fronts all day (and not just because Mike Adams is terrible in coverage).

I am hoping for turnovers and short fields too. But there is no reason to think it’s going to happen for either of us more than the other. Good luck with hoping.

by rufio on Sep 21, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you hope enough, it will come true . . .

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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