Cleveland Browns vs. Baltimore Ravens - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
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| Date: | September 21, 2008 | Location: | Baltimore, MD |
| Time: | 4:15 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Browns Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Ravens by 2½ |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 38½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Baltimore Beatdown | Announcers |
Bill Macatee, Steve Beuerlein |
The last time the Browns visited Baltimore, they came away with a victory. However, the game was far from a typical win. Phil Dawson attempted a long field goal as time expired in regulation, hoping to tie the game. After bouncing off the top goalpost and then hitting the crossbar and coming out, the referees signaled "no good". We clearly saw on the replay though that the kick was indeed good, and after review, the correct call was made. The Browns ended up winning the game in overtime. This year, the Browns are a disappointing 0-2 to start off the season. We have not been able to defeat the contenders, so now it's even more critical that we do what we did all of last season -- win against the teams that are not contenders. The Ravens have had an awkward start to the season themselves, having defeated a bad Bengals team in Week 1 with a rookie quarterback, and then having their game last week postponed due to stadium damage in Houston.
Will the Browns be able to overcome their injuries to get their first win of the season? Let's kick off the preview with the overall team statistics thus far...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Ravens |
| Points Scored | 8.0 (31st) | 17.0 (22nd) |
| Passing | 134.5 (28th) | 129.0 (30th) |
| Rushing | 72.0 (27th) | 229.0 (1st) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 206.5 (30th) | 358.0 (8th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns | Ravens |
| Points Scored | 19.0 (12th) | 10.0 (2nd) |
| Passing | 242.0 (26th) | 84.0 (1st) |
| Rushing | 142.0 (24th) | 70.0 (4th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 384.0 (28th) | 154.0 (1st) |
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Quarterback Based on his performance this season, Derek Anderson doesn't really deserve to be favored over anyone. Saying that, I think the city of Baltimore is a little too excited/confident in the abilities of rookie quarterback Joe Flacco. He picked up a win in his first NFL start, but he only completed 50% of his passes and failed to throw a touchdown against one of the worst defenses in all of football. If the Browns are able to bring the same amount of pressure that they brought against Ben Roethlisberger last week, Flacco's lack of experience will show, resulting in a big day for our defensive backs. For Anderson, it's all about getting back in sync. With a good performance by Derek Anderson too, the chances of seeing Brady Quinn traded to Kansas City can only improve. |
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Running Back Jamal Lewis isn't having a down season to this point. Last year, most of his big games came against the below-average teams. He struggled against the Steelers, and against the Cowboys we simply fell behind too early. Still, he is the right match-up to pound against the Ravens' defensive front, and the Browns are also looking to get Jerome Harrison more involved in the offense. The Ravens have a good rotation at their disposal in Willis McGahee, Ray Rice, and Le'Ron McClain. In Week 1, McClain was more explosive than Rice was, but both of them should receive equal amount of touches to keep the other fresh against our bulky defensive line. |
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Receiver After the first two weeks, the Browns have not been explosive at the receiver position. Kellen Winslow has had a couple of good first halves, but then we go away from him. Braylon Edwards has dropped more footballs in two weeks than even Travis Wilson did during the preseason. Donte Stallworth, our go-to-guy to replace Joe Jurevicius, is still out with an injury. For the third week in a row, we're starting the tiny, non-blocking receiver in Syndric Steptoe. The Ravens have experienced receiver Derrick Mason and Mark Clayton as their starting receivers, and Todd Heap at tight end. With Heap appearing to be on the downside of his career, the Browns are still favored simply due to the fact that once Edwards is "back", this comparison won't even be a contest. |
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Offensive Line Eric Steinbach has been ruled out for the Browns, so it looks like Seth McKinney is going to start in his place at left guard. Against a tough Ravens defense, that is certainly a downgrade that will have adverse effects on the amount of time Anderson has to throw, or the team's willingness to have a formation where two tackles line up on the same side of the field. The Ravens kept Flacco clean in his first start with the help of impressive youngsters Ben Grubbs and Marshall Yanda at the guard positions. How they handle Shaun Rogers will be an interesting matchup though -- Ravens fans seem to believe he'll be more contained than he was last week against the Steelers. Had Steinbach been healthy, the Browns would be favored here. |
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Defensive Line Last week, the Browns' defensive line looked as good as its ever looked. Shaun Rogers was nearly unblockable, and Corey Williams made at least somewhat of an impression. The season-ending injury to Robaire Smith is a tough one to swallow -- he was the team's best defensive lineman last season. However, Shaun Smith should not be a dropoff in production. What does happen is that our rotation is not as strong now, which means Rogers won't be as strong in the fourth quarter. The Ravens would normally be favored here, but even after a two-week break, starting nose tackle Kelly Gregg is ruled out. Haloti Ngata and Trevor Pryce, while solid, do not overcome the Browns having the better player at nose tackle. |
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Linebacker We like to rib on the fact that Ray Lewis is getting older or getting slower, but without question he's still a force to be reckoned with. He gets the rest of the team's defense fired up on any given play and rarely misses a tackle. He had his best game of the season last year against Cleveland, where he recorded 16 tackles and also returned an Anderson interception for a touchdown. Meanwhile, I'm still looking for a leader from the Browns' group. Between Kamerion Wimbley, Andra Davis, D'Qwell Jackson, and Willie McGinest, you'd expect one of them to stand out a little more than the rest. Leon Williams will reportedly receive a little more playing time over Davis so that Davis can focus on special teams. |
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Secondary With the Ravens missing Gregg, I look for the Browns to try and disrupt Flacco by bringing up a safety to blitz through the middle often, assuming Rogers is able to eat up two linemen. Baltimore is a little banged up at defensive back, but the veteran experience of Chris McAllister and Samari Rolle still remains a decent combination. The critical thing for Anderson will be to stay away from Ed Reed. Reed will not fall for a deep pass over the middle if we're trying to force a play to Edwards -- it has to be a connection that's formed purely due to chemistry. |
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Special Teams I'm going to go ahead and not really count Joshua Cribbs' effort last week as his return game. With all of the winds, coupled with a low-scoring affair, Cribbs only had one crack at a kick return. This week, hopefully he receivers more opportunities to provide a boost for our offense. Phil Dawson is more than prepared to kick in Baltimore, as evidenced by his crazy field goal last season as well as a game-winner in overtime. On the same note, Matt Stover always has some of his better games against the Browns, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets four or five attempts today. |
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 27, Baltimore Ravens 12.
Keeping the Ravens out of the end zone is the goal this week after a solid showing by the Browns' defense against Pittsburgh last week. Offensively, we're just looking for something. It's hard to imagine that we're only averaging eight points a game through the first two weeks. A lot of our points this week won't come as a result of well-executed, time-consuming drives, but instead capitalizing on turnovers by the Ravens' offense. And, if Cleveland fails to come away with a victory this week, I promise that the optimism will begin to shrink heavily.
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 3 as they face off against the Baltimore Ravens. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Injury Updates
IN: Braylon Edwards, Jamal Lewis
OUT: Donte Stallworth, Ryan Tucker, Eric Steinbach, Willie McGinest
Alex Hall will start for McGinest and Syndric Steptoe will start for Stallworth.
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Official Gameday Inactives
Browns Inactives: QB Ken Dorsey (3rd), WR Donte Stallworth, SS Sean Jones, LB Willie McGinest, G Eric Steinbach, LB Kris Griffin, G Ryan Tucker, TE Martin Rucker.
Ravens inactives: QB Troy Smith (3rd), WR Yamon Figurs, DB Evan Oglesby, DB Fabian Washington, LB Nick Greisen, T Oniel Cousins, T David Hale, NT Kelly Gregg.
No real surprises on either team, except perhaps Hall over McGinest.
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Bad teams have their solid efforts still.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I want this Bengals-Giants game to end so I can see the Browns!!
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I want this Bengals-Giants game to end so I no longer have to watch the Bengals.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re looking good today.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love having the Z-announcers this week.
Too much cushion on the first play…
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Le’Ron McClain is down with an injury…looks like Ray Rice is going to be inserted a lot more.
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Hmm, Andra Davis misses a tackle, and Alex Hall shoves McGahee in the wrong direction.
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Where is the early pressure? We’re not rushing anybody against a rookie quarterback.
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Our defensive linemen need to stop it already with not knowing how to put a damn helmet on.
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Haha, boy, Ed Hoculi already having to announce a weird situation with the substitutions. Good to see us get the stop on third down; field goal coming as I predicted.
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YEAH! The kick is NO GOOD! Great starting field position to start now…
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Woo-hoo! Thanks for the updates Chris. We should be getting the Browns any minute now . . .
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG Joshua Cribbs with a reception! Boy, how refreshing is it to see that? Third down conversion is good…
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Steptoe with a second-down drop. Get Cribbs in there more…
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Flag called on play for illegal formation; still second down.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, they say Baltimore declines the penalty.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Game on — just in time to see a bad throw by DA.
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That really sucked; he had plenty of time.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone can’t see it, try
http://www.brownsbacker.com/online.htm
Haven’t tested; just basing off others at OBR.
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I just read that Moo said he ceased operations due to legal things.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I am driving through Maryland and luckily picked up the game on radio. Go Browns.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 21, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
We could have a tie game final in the Tampa/Chicago game.
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Lastly, the Bucs are really lucky to get out of there with a W. The refs screwed the Bears over pretty well. The Bucs were at their own 5 and had a player cheap-shot a Bears defender. The Bears retaliated, and the refs called a personal foul on them. It gave Tampa the win, sadly.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice play by Pool coming up to the line of scrimmage. Need a third down stop now…
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Haven’t really seen anything too noticeable yet.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Except they got the first down on a QB sneak.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, Jackson.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOO!!! Interception by D’Qwell Jackson over the middle!
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On the replay, not a blitz.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want the Browns to do nothing but pass until we get a lead. Then incorporate the run.
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And as I say that, Jamal Lewis with a gain of about 17.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys know that Derek Anderson has a size 15 shoe?
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Did you also know that he is from Scapoose?
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but maybe if you hum a few bars, I can fake it.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ba-dum ching!
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
BANG! Look at that toughness by Lawrence VICKERS. Decent touch by Anderson on the throw too…
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BANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Let’s just say, it’s a good thing a video camera wasn’t on me to see my reaction.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Romeo Crennel has finally learned.
Jerome Harrison? Money.
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Love the call — the Ravens blitzed and there was nobody near Harrison until he got near the goal line. How long has it taken for the Browns to learn this?
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You outlined it perfectly…way too long.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Plays like this keep the defense off guard. We can’t just keep dropping DA back and chucking it down the field.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what…I actually sort of like having the Z announcers now. They are trying to analyze the game at least as opposed to having their personality take over the game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That is definately true. The big-time announcers (Madden and such) are too much about using their catch-phrases and talking about themselves than analyzing the game. Plus, on big games the network spends too much time trying to promote their shows. Low-level announcers haven’t been “dumbed-down” by the networks yet.
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by Buckeye Brad on Sep 21, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job by McDonald to grab Mason there; saved a touchdown. A good penalty, and only 5 yards.
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As soon as McGahee took the pitch, I said “no way this is a run play”. He didn’t sell it well enough at all, and by the time the throw got back to Flacco, four-five defenders were on their only receiver.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOO!!! Mike Adams with the intcerception on the pass-back fleaflicker attempt by Flacco! Way to stay home by the Browns.
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me too.
at least I’ve moved up from watching stats scroll by on Gamecenter. Got that NFL.com field pass thing, so I can hear our radio broadcast
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
9.95 a month or 39.95 a year
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How can the trio of Marc Bulger, Steven Jackson, and Torry Holt be so…inept?
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no O-line
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, certainly not a good drive for our defense. I don’t like the fact that we’re not bringing more people on a blitz, whether it gets picked up or not.
Bummer that Cribbs didn’t light it up on his first kick return.
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First catchable pass to Edwards is caught. 1 for 1.
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Sheesh…so Braylon tries to dick with us by bobbling it about 5 times with defenders surrounding him as he’s running. Then, he hauls it in.
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Braylon with two in a row!
someone got him some stickum
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Horse collar is only called if the collar is the FIRST thing the defender grabs. If you grab his waist and then his collar, you’re fine.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
How was that not a horsecollar tackle?
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Radio guys are saying horse-collar tackle on Lewis. Did it look like one?
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Yes.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Read my take above.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that we’re using Vickers more
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We are going to have to keep being creative if we never get another healthy WR. Steptoe should not be a 2nd WR.
The solution? more Steve Heiden
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
A Winslow sighting off a tipped pass! Good for a first down, as we head towards the two-minute warning.
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Okay, I realize the receivers aren’t what they should be right now, but does anyone else think that DA hasn’t been taking advantage of the times when he has a TON of time to throw?
Yes, though without CBS giving us camera angles of the defense, it’s hard to say if he’s at fault for not finding someone.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
K2 with the 1st down
sounded nice
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Ben Roethlisberger has been sacked 5 times in the first half by the Eagles.
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nice
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, now Yahoo has downed it to 4 sacks.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll have to settle for that field goal.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Unblocked blitzer, coming from the area of left guard.
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10-7
not bad.
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Dawson field goal is good! We’ve now matched our season-high in points.
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I understand that they now consider Harrison the no. 2 back (which is great – as I am all for him getting more time), but I wish they would still use him on 3rd downs. He is just…so perfect for it
Yeah think about a screen or a “slip out” to him there. If they sent 6 at DA and we could only block 5, that means we had 5 Ravens on 5 eligible receivers, meaning either it was a cover ZERO, or Harrison would have been wide open on a “slip out” or hot route or something.
Screens must be against Romeo's religious beliefs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s not allow a quick drive to end the half like we so often do now.
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Under ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If we get the Ravens in the right situation, I better not see Crennel sit there and NOT take a time out. We can give Cribbs a shot at a return.
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Sweet
always like beating arrogant Europeans
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Whew, they heard my wishes. Timeout, BROWNS! Funny how I’m celebrating a simple coaching move now…
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Dude needs some tweezers
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet!
punt return opportunity
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If we’re smart now, we try another screen to Harrison.
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Some twitching on the upper body, but he hasn’t moved from lying face down since the hit.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hope fully he's just concussed
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like he is seizing. Obviously this could be really horrible, but my buddy elbowed a guy in the head while going for a pass once, who seized, and then was perfectly fine 20 mins later. It could be ok. Are his legs moving yet?
He’s on the back board, so its really difficult to tell.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to take precautions regardless. The fact that they didn’t take the helmet off, but only the facemask is probably a bad sign.
He’s conscious and talking. I think there might have been some movement in his arms.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
thats good to hear
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn’t moved at all it seems.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, sounds like it could be serious
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this will turn into an injury timeout for the Ravens.
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Doesn’t look good for Landry. I hope he ends up being okay. Don’t take offense to this, but offering a quick impact possibility here…
This could create some holes for Winslow in the second half, with the Ravens already thin in the secondary in terms of depth.
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I don’t think the Ravens themselves would even be offended. You hope the best for the kid, you don’t try to hurt anyone like that, but the game goes on.
Still, hope h's ok
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked like Landry was trying to say something as he was taken off the field.
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Sheesh…15-yard penalty on the Ravens? Hello…get a good play here and we’re in field goal range.
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I thought we had two more.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The Ravens are doing a good job at getting their defenders in his normal passing lanes.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
All-in-all, it’s good to have a halftime lead, knowing we also get the ball back to start the second half.
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Well, we're winning at the half.
best news all season
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Brad, Displaced, and any other Buckeye fans:
How did Pryor look? I saw highlights and it looks like he can just flick the ball 40 yards without even trying.
i was at the game yesterday….pryor made it look effortless. he made some mistakes, normal for a true-frosh, but made up for it
“Effortless” has been a good way to describe what I have seen from him so far. He looked like he just glided past some USC LBs. At USC, I was disappointed that he didn’t throw more. Did he try to throw more against Troy?
he did throw more. although there were a few times where he suffered massive loss of yards by not letting go of the football. he’s such a threat at the run that i can’t say i hate it when he tucks the ball…
He'll improve the holding on to the ball thing with experience.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that he could play today if he needed, but Tressel won’t let him because he wants him 100% for games that matter. I believe the logic is “why play him against Troy when we should win with no problems anyway, while risking re-injury”
fan-fucking-tastic
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
TV just said Landry is ok
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Just reflecting…our only two notable offensive plays of the season through three games? Two screen passes to Jerome Harrison.
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Nice…Cribbs showed a sign of breaking away there. Dammit, now a holding penalty called…now that one on first glimpse looked like a possible collar call.
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Not sure.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, thought we might've had it
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Cribbs lost his shoe during that kick return — another non-good field position.
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He’s doing more shifting than I’m used to as opposed to hitting the hole quick. That could be a result of not-as-well blocking.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to sounds picky – but this half is going to be HUGE in determining how I feel about Derek Anderson.
it'll shake its ass for a buck?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You have got to be fucking kidding me
Pick 6. at least we didn’t lose much clock time
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Don’t say his name. It summons him.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not defending Anderson here, but these routes look horrible. Honestly, how was that supposed to work?
Hell, we had one explosive play to Harrison, and then we go ahead and don’t even put the guy in again.
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Edwards I believe.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That route was fine, after watching the replay. Just a poor read by DA.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
God, a near nightmare to see Dinkins be the up-back on short kickoffs.
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The QB situation OSU and the Brown are sicking… Why can’t the QB who wants to play be allowed before our season is hurt even further
Looks like Todd Boeckman… I mean Derick Anderson is coming back out
Oh, I’ve been out of the country much of the last few weeks—- what is this blurb you had about Quinn to KC??? Is that an actual rumor?
Jay Glazer reported it this morning on FOX. He said the Chiefs called the Browns, but we basically didn’t respond favorably at this point.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why doesn’t this year’s Browns team seem to show any sense of urgency on offense?
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I am getting depressed. Now a 15-yard penalty on Mike Adams for unnecessary roughness.
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Can this team go more than 2 plays in a row without making a sophomoric, brain dead mistake?
Platooning with Jamey Carroll is not freedom. Free Andy Marte!
evidently not
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll take a sick day.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
why write about a team that doesn’t seem to have any heart?
by Guage80 on Sep 21, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Romeo told the radio sideline guy that he’s tired of the stupid penalties. Sorry, Romeo, but stupid penalties are signs of poor discipline, which is indicative of….shitty coaching. so its on you, Romey, ol’ buddy
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m not saying don’t send in Brady. But putting him in won’t fix the shit play-calling
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If we don’t go no huddle, hurry up this next drive…
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That’s what I’m envisioning.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry. He will be here to gloat. People like him always do.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody is just walking, and walking, and walking slowly….no urgency despite the fact we’re down 18.
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Are you agreeing with me, i.e. saying “I agree — it looks like we believe we can score 18 points on this one drive.”?
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, is there a reason we don’t seem to go into shotgun anymore?
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You’re assuming that there is rational thought behind anything this team does.
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by woodsmeister on Sep 21, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, not to sound like THAT GUY (a BQ fanatic) because I’m not, at all, but when does DA’s seat start getting a little warmer?
should be red hot now
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty warm. I say if we don’t get a TD on this drive we give Quinn a shot.
A little tough now on 3rd and 18.
If we were not losing 28-10, I would probably be laughing hysterically at the image of BQ polishing a dried piece of crap and then saying “now I’m done” in his best tough guy voice.
I don’t know… It gave me a chuckle anyway.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, you think there isn’t going to be maximum controversy after this pile of crap? The most surety we could have is Quinn playing- then we would know who the QB is against Cincy- and it wouldn’t be DA.
I’m not trying to take a hard stance here or anything – I’m really on the fence about what should be done. Pulling DA mid-game in third game of the season just seems a little drastic to me. That is all.
Nah
Frye could scramble
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
at some point chudzinski has got to start getting some heat, too. he’s the 2nd highest paid offensive coordinator in the league.
Nice, let’s waste 30 seconds on a five-yard dumpoff.
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Real nice effort by Cribbs on that play there…a shame Anderson’s throw was just a tad high. I think we had to go for it though on fourth down.
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how many draft picks did we trade again?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The 7th went for Travis Daniels during camp.
by Fundamentals on Sep 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
More production than Wimbley, at least.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
game ball
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
this game is like a shot in the...gut
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My recommendation on Romeo Crennell?
Get out there this week and sell! sell!
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by portland, oregon on Sep 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT reply actions
His trade value gets pretty low
when everyone knows he’s gonna blow
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we can hug the Jaguars — we’re not the only contending team dramatically underachieving.
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hugging a Jaguar sounds dangerous
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Tamed Jaguars.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Joe Thomas performing much worse than last year, or is the rest of the line just not at his level?
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by portland, oregon on Sep 21, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
During the Dallas game, he was completely neutralizing Ware. He was doing the same to whoever was on that side against pitt. Are they beating him today? All I heard was Suggs was beating Shaffer.
Thomas hasn’t had a very good game. It could have something to do with his security blanket in Eric Steinbach not being there.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaguars have marched down into field goal range now, set to attempt a game-winner.
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Jaguars kick the apparent game-winner with four seconds remaining.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally back at home in NoVa. I had to turn the game off the radio so that I wouldn’t go into an uncontrollable road-rampage, running over grandma and the children as they crossed the street.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 21, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
HA!
+1 for the Airplane reference
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Pittsburgh is going to lose. Also, Ben R. just left the field with 2:30 left.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
Detroit
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If only they were on the schedule.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say Houston, but I'm not sure of that anymore
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
which resulted in 14 points
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
scratch that
3 picks
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
While, you’re there, pick up some more glue.
by elsandito on Sep 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
14 for 36 for 125 yards . . . that is nothing.
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by portland, oregon on Sep 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone mentioned that the Tribe went a game above .500 today? Maybe Crennel should talk to Eric Wedge
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by portland, oregon on Sep 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
If you would’ve told me Anderson to Edwards resulted in 0 touchdowns through the first three weeks, I would’ve called you nuts.
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Be nice if Mr. Stallworth would drop by for one of these games
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That was ugly. Let’s not do that again.
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I had the (mis)fortune of missing today’s game.
I don’t want to go through this whole depressing thread.
Has any posted the list of 0-3 teams that have made the post-season?
What are the chances of the Browns making it?
I found the following information on cleveland.com:
For the record, only two teams since 1993 have started a season 0-3 and made the playoffs. Of the 78 previous 0-3 teams, 68 ended with a losing record.
The Browns have been 0-3 on only four other occasions since 1950 and proceeded to lose 11 games (twice), 12 and 14 in those seasons.
I wonder who those 2 teams are.
Three teams have done it since the Super Bowl Era.
1998 Buffalo Bills (0-3)
1995 Detroit Lions (0-3)
1992 San Diego Chargers (0-4)
So even if we lose next week, there is still a chance.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 22, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately this is and will be a long year. Romeo needs to leave, but who at this point will do better. I mean to throw in a new head coach is tough at this time of the season
Team looks like it is playing on eggshells. I just don’t get it. DA looks lost, I know the Browns have some injuries, but goodness this team looks horrible.
With the rest of the schedule staring at them I see 4-12 maybe.
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It’s Monday morning and I just ran thru the entire list of posts here. It shows a lot of optimism then dejection and makes for great reading. You guys are great fans and I applaud your blind loyalty to your team. Thank god my Ravens won, or you all would probably be extremely difficult to live with. Hang in there. We had a similar season last year.
Peace.
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