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Putting Faith in Derek Anderson

Take a look at these statistics:

Cleveland Browns: 0-3 Record


Passing
G Rating Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD INT
2008 - Derek Anderson 3 43.5 43 93 46.2 405 135.0 4.4 2 5

Indianapolis Colts: 1-2 Record


Passing
G Rating Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD INT
2008 - Peyton Manning 3 73.1 71 120 59.2 784 261.3 6.5 3 4

St. Louis Rams: 0-3 Record


Passing
G Rating Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD INT
2008 - Marc Bulger 3 73.2 52 89 58.4 519 173.0 5.8 2 2

Three teams, three sets of expectations, and three struggling quarterbacks. If you had to rank the expected chain of success of these three teams heading into the season, it would've gone in the following order: Colts > Browns > Rams.

When it comes to Manning struggling, there's simply no way he's going to be benched unless he takes himself out.

When it came to Bulger struggling, not only this year but for a good portion of last season, the Rams had enough. He has been benched, and backup QB Trent Green is set to take over this week.

Anderson1_mediumWhere does that leave the Browns then? We are giving Derek Anderson one more shot. He has not shown any sign of needing to be our quarterback of the future for the first three games of this season. Bringing up last season's struggles toward the end of the year do not affect that -- last year was Anderson's first year as a starting quarterback, and anyone surprised by a first-year starter struggling set their expectations too high.

What do I remember from Anderson all offseason? I remember writing training camp reports that he was looking exceptional in camp. He could throw deep touchdowns to Braylon Edwards with his eyes closed. He started accepting Donte Stallworth as a legitimate second option. Travis Wilson was looking like a decent third receiver. Then, in the first preseason game, Anderson looked good.

After that...things changed. Anderson suffered a concussion against the New York Giants. Edwards missed the rest of camp with a cut on his foot. Stallworth has missed the first three weeks with a hamstring injury. Wilson was cut. Where did that leave the offense?

  1. A quarterback trying to return from a concussion
  2. A top receiver who lost focus after being out of the loop for a few weeks
  3. A practice squad receiver in Syndric Steptoe as our second receiver. Remember, Anderson's reps with Steptoe were minimal throughout all of camp.

This week, Anderson is getting part of the puzzle back. Stallworth, while not 100%, has at least been practicing and is expected to make his long-awaited return. For the first time this season, we'll see how Anderson can run this offense a little closer to how it was intended to be run. I emphasize "a little closer" because with Eric Steinbach out 3-5 weeks, that adds a different variable. Heading into the season though, the offensive line was our deepest position -- wide receiver was pretty thin.

This piece is not meant to make amends for Anderson's discouraging efforts over the first three weeks of the season. However, we still have a big football game this week against the Cincinnati Bengals. It's a division game. I don't want to change quarterbacks during the game. I want the Rob Chudzinski offense from last year, and that can only come with continuity -- at least for this week.

From a control standpoint though, it's understandable why a change would be necessary following a Week 4 loss. I still have faith in Anderson to lead this team. The hidden variable though is that at some point, Romeo Crennel is going to have to start worrying about his job. It's do-or-die time for Anderson -- but I'll be cheering for him from the first snap to the final blow of the whistle this Sunday.

Poll
Are you willing to put faith in Derek Anderson heading into this game?
Yes -- Pull it together Anderson!
116 votes
No -- Anderson is DONE in my mind
142 votes

258 votes | Poll has closed

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Random Note: This is the first time I’ve attached a poll to a post in about a month. I have no idea why I’ve neglected polls during that stretch…I am certainly going to get back into the habit of having them.

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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 26, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately the browns have not neglected the poll, in fact they’ve taken the poll in each of the last 3 games

by Guage80 on Sep 26, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting article. Your point about the fate of the team being tied to the quarterback is well taken.

I think the only objection I would raise is about having faith in DA. Last year, I remember having a feeling that we had executed our offense against bad teams and I kept waiting to see it on the road, against a good team. Then the Arizona and Cincy games happened, not good teams to say the least. I remember, at that point, feeling like Anderson had been exposed and it was unlikely he’d be a long-term success. What happened in between then and this past August? Just like everyone else, I got crazy excited for the Browns season and threw rational thinking out the window.

 The truth is up until the moment they resigned him in February, I was all for trading him. I thought then his ship was sailing. But during the offseason and through training camp, you forget about all the bad and make a series of “if” statements that betray reality.

…if Derek Anderson can raise his completion % to 60-65%,

…if the offensive line can stay healthy for another full year,

…if Travis Wilson, I mean Josh Cribbs, I mean Donte Stallworth, I mean Syndric Steptoe, I mean Steve Sanders, can develop into a complimentary threat,

…if Braylon can improve on his catching,

…if the young cornerbacks can shock the world,

…if Sean Jones can have a breakout year,

…if we can get pressure on the QB,

then we’ll go 11-5 and win the division.

Three games in, we haven’t done any of the things listed. In fact, we haven’t really done anything well. Our offense has averaged 8.33 points per game. Savage, Crennel, Chud, DA, Braylon, K2, Donte, the OL, all deserve part of the blame for where the offense is.

Right now, this is a team that can’t produce offensively. It’s been true three weeks in a row, I have no reason to believe that it will change. I don’t have any faith in DA and I’m looking forward to Brady playing the second half on Sunday. I’m also hopeful Chud can draw up some better running plays and better utilize our tight ends and running backs in the passing game.

by NickFantana on Sep 26, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Performance-wise, all the offense had to do was stay the same. You almost knew we couldn’t be as fortunate as we were last year (when we were practically injury-free). Donte may deserve the most blame for the offense being where it is right now in a wacky way.

Looks like the crowd is about 50/50 faith in Anderson right now.

Thank god it’s not a home game this week.

And, if we lose against Cincy, there is absolutely no wayyyyyyyyyy Crennel can let Anderson play against the Giants with half the crowd booing.

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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 26, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Half the crowd booing? Half the owner’s box would be booing!

I don’t agree that the offense needed to stay the same. They showed some pretty glaring weaknesses down the stretch, especially in the red zone. This was specifically Anderson’s problem, but also had to do with questionable play-calling and unnecessary drops/penalties. I definitely felt all off-season that the offense needed to take a step up and become a consistently high-scoring, efficient offense. Last year, they were only that type of offense in a half dozen games.

by NickFantana on Sep 26, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

spot on

I agree whole heartadly with this assessment. I remember thinking that we should trade DA and that he’ll be exposed elsewhere, that the talent of Braylon and Kellen were hiding a lot of DA’s deficiences. I am happy we still have him though as he’ll make a viable backup soon enough.

by dvd1204 on Sep 26, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is better geared for a backup QB role on some team but i don’t see how for a 8mil roster spot that he is a viable a backup for the Browns. His trade value is worthless to the Browns unless they trade him before the end of the season for the same reason.

by Guage80 on Sep 26, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t say worthless, but “plummeting”, certainly.

by rufio on Sep 27, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must admit, I agree with all.

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by Grockcubs on Sep 27, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

while I appreciate the comparison, DA’s numbers don’t look in the same league as Manning’s and Bulger’s. If anything it shows that DA can aspire to be them which would still be terrible.

by dvd1204 on Sep 26, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The difference between all 3, of course, is that we have an accomplished history to rely on for Manning and to a lesser extent Bulger. If we had Manning, then I’d be sitting here like, well c’mon, its Peyton frickin Manning, he’s fine. Anderson’s peak was say 5-6 good games against the likes of the Bengals, Rams and Dolphins last year. There is a very strong case that Anderson had a hot hand for a few games against some bad opponents while throwing to talented targets. His performance has been unacceptable going back to late last season and his play against the Bengals last year when it mattered most, indicates that he might not be the guy we had hoped we had.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 26, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know, the only real fly in the ointment when ticking off the teams he’s beat is that game in Pittsburgh. And the one against Seattle. But I agree with your overall point about a lack of a track record. I think the book on Anderson is that from time to time he’ll get hot and have a good streak of games. But at this point there’s literally no reason to believe he can be a consistent above-average NFL starter.

by NickFantana on Sep 26, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His most impressive game was definitely Seattle. I’m not quite sure what you are referring to with Pittsburgh. The game we barely lost I think was a function of Cribbs giving us excellent field position the whole game and Edwards making a miraculous catch on one of Anderception’s passes.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 26, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll admit to not remembering the details of his passes from last year with that level of clarity. I was looking mostly at the three touchdowns. But, in my first draft, I had mentioned that he only threw for 128 yards and I DO remember him looking awful and dumping everything off in the second half.

by NickFantana on Sep 26, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris, love the new headline. Especially because the margin on the poll is so slight. In Anderson we Trust, until 2:25 PM EDT Sunday Sept. 28.

by NickFantana on Sep 26, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still have faith in Anderson. I never really had “faith” that he was as good as Peyton or Tom B. I do have faith that he is better than a 43.5 rating. I doubt he has the intelligence or the “it” to be in the HOF. He is certainly good enough to beat the Ravens and the Bengals and everyone up to about the Seattle-level of team. That would be enough to get us in the playoffs 3/4 years, and I am happy with that. I believe that with improvement he could win a ring and beat the “great” NFL teams about 50% of the time.

Regardless of how good Anderson is, though, we need to know which QB should be the one at the helm. Even if Anderson gets back up to playing at the level he did last year, we still have a very, very powerful thing in the back of everyone’s mind. That thing is the tension of the unknown. Quinn. No one knows how good he really is. No one will ever know unless we test him out. Maybe DA is bad, but BQ is WORSE. Maybe he is better. A lot better. No one will know until he gets some game time action. How do we handle this situation so what we get a look at BQ and resolve the tension of the unknown? You can’t know that X is better than Y without having a value for each of them. Right now we are judging if X is > or < 43.5.

I would have loved to see Quinn come in for that last series vs. Baltimore. Maybe it would have hurt DA’s confidence, (I am sure that throwing a pick on his first throw that drive didn’t do positive things for Anderson’s confidence.) but RAC could have at least justified it by saying he didn’t want the starter to get hurt in a blowout. He already has a track record for saying “die” (FG against Dallas), so why not again?

Regardless of the long-term future, I think everyone agrees that if we start 0-4, Quinn starts after the bye.

by rufio on Sep 26, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DA is a guy we signed off the waiver wire (by Phil Savage). BQ is a guy we drafted in the first round by Phil Savage. I’m putting all my chips behind Phil Savage and his ability to spot talent. Does this sound at all confusing? Not to me. As far as I’m concerned Phil already annointed BQ to be the Browns’ future.

by elsandito on Sep 26, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think even Savage would admit that SOMETIMES undrafted FAs work out better than guys we draft. Travis Wilson was a 1st day pick who isn’t on the team anymore and Josh Cribbs is an undrafted FA who is probably one of our best all around players. Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round too. Where you come in to the league probably correlates with how your career goes, but there is certainly no causality. It doesn’t sound confusing, it just isn’t necessarily right.

At the end of last year when we extended Anderson did you feel the same way? We could have let him walk, but signing him to a multiyear deal was an admission that there was at least a chance that he could be “the guy” even with a giant Quinn cloud looming. As much as some people think all our team’s ills will be cured the moment we put Quinn in, there seems to be no realization of the fact that we could actually get worse. Or maybe even worse than that, what happens if we put Quinn in, he plays well because there is no tape on him (just like DA), and then once teams figure him out we are back to where we are now? It is at least a possibility.

I think Quinn is probably our guy too. He clearly elevated a ND team to respectability that hasn’t been as good since he left. Weiss loved him. He works hard, and I think he would put the mental work in as well. Regardless of what he did in college, he is still a mostly unknown commodity in the pros. I don’t think I even need to list some QBs who were great in college but terrible in the NFL.

This is all just happening really really fast. I think there is a way to keep the door open for both guys until one of them is gone (at this point, yes, it really is looking like Anderson).

by rufio on Sep 27, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was really hoping to see Anderson keep it together a bit longer. I figured Quinn was going to need more time, especially with the coaches deciding to work on his grip. But I can’t say that I have confidence in Anderson overall. His reaction to pressure is to go from trying to force passes to REALLY trying to force passes. Now that he’s been told flat out that his job is on the line, I (sadly) expect him to do even worse, so I hope Quinn has his new mechanics worked out. And I hope Chud has finally realized that he has to call they plays that they can run, not the ones he wants to.

by JustBob on Sep 26, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris & Rufio,

Your assessments on all other aspects of this team seem have been insightful and objective, except for DA. I can only believe you both have a #3 Jersey with Anderson on the back. I understand since I have 4 Browns Jerseys and three no longer play for the team.

by Guage80 on Sep 26, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will have no problem if Brady Quinn plays. After the season Anderson had last year, even considering the “bad” games he had last year, there was reason to believe he could improve this season. He looked sharp throughout camp, and has only looked horrible after his concussion.

My main message is that the final decision was to start Anderson this week. Any way we put it, we still want the Browns to win, and that’s unlikely to happen if we’re switching quarterbacks during this game. Heading into the game, my mindset is to trust Derek Anderson and hope for the best.

I don’t own any Browns jerseys, BTW…though I should just go for the reliable Phil Dawson one ;)

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by ChrisPokorny on Sep 27, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could care less which qb give us the best chance of winning this week. I was never sold on DA due to his interception numbers. And every week that BQ sits, the rust grows thicker. BQ is an extraordinarily gifted and intelligent athlete with leadership skills. I don’t care that he can’t rifle a 50 yard strike between defenders. How many great qbs could do that? Great qbs are great decision makers who can give the players around them confidence, who can make the players around them perform better and who can run an offense without staring blankly at the sidelines.

by elsandito on Sep 28, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t own a jersey either. I am an art student so not only do I lack the funds to procure a jersey now, I also don’t have a lot of faith in my future being financially stable (preventing me from purchasing a jersey with a number equally unstable).

Regardless, my concern is not that we play the better QB now (because Ken Dorsey would probably be better than DA right now), it’s that we make the correct long term decision. First, you can’t honestly believe DA will consistently be this bad forever. Second, how can we do that WITHOUT seeing Quinn at some point? I just think that making Quinn the starter or, say, putting him in to the pitt game in the 3rd quarter is a lot different than putting him in against Baltimore in the 4th when we are getting blown out. I was screaming to put him in before we put DA in and he threw one pass to the other team and sat back down.

We need it to say “we are evaluating you both in order to make our decision” and not “we have made our decision without even looking at the 2nd guy”.

by rufio on Sep 27, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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