Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals - Official Game Thread
Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals, Sep 28, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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| Date: | September 28, 2008 | Location: | Cincinnati, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Paul Brown Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Bengals by 3½ |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 44½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Cincy Jungle | Announcers |
Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon |
The Battle of "O-Win-No" seems a little more appropriate, as the Cleveland Browns and the Cincinnati Bengals each enter this game with an 0-3 record. The Browns need to build some momentum heading into the bye week. This game literally means everything in the world to the futures of both Derek Anderson and Romeo Crennel. With a win, and I mean a good win, they will both last beyond the bye week. With a loss, we will be looking ahead to next season. The Bengals' problem is their defense -- if you can't stop anybody and your offense can't compete in a shootout anymore, then what chance do you have?
Can the Browns finally get their first victory of the season? Let's kick off the preview with the overall team statistics thus far...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Bengals |
| Points Scored | 8.6 (32nd) | 13.3 (29th) |
| Passing | 122.7 (31st) | 152.0 (26th) |
| Rushing | 71.3 (30th) | 86.7 (25th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 194.0 (32nd) | 238.7 (30th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns | Bengals |
| Points Scored | 22.0 (18th) | 22.3 (20th) |
| Passing | 202.0 (18th) | 178.7 (12th) |
| Rushing | 145.0 (25th) | 174.3 (28th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 347.0 (23rd) | 353.0 (24th) |
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Quarterback
I was originally going to give the Bengals the edge here, but when I heard that Carson Palmer was ruled out due to injury, the edge goes back to Derek Anderson. Though he has not performed well over the first three weeks of the season, he has a lot more starting experience than Ryan Fitzpatrick does. Anderson's season is on the line here -- if he starts off the game with a hot hand, then he will live to see another day as a starter. If he throws interceptions or leads several three-and-outs in a row, then Brady Quinn will receive serious consideration from Romeo Crennel. |
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Running Back
Neither the Browns nor the Bengals have gotten their ground games going -- each team is averaging less than 100 yards per game. In Lewis' case though, it seems to have more to do with the Browns falling behind and abandoning the run than it does Lewis having a sub par season. Reports have indicated that the Browns are committed to focusing their entire gameplan around Lewis this week, especially after his outcry for more touches following last week's game. Crennel also stated for the second consecutive week that they will try to give Jerome Harrison a few more touches. Let's see if he's actually true to his word this week. |
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Receiver
Right now, Braylon Edwards is struggling more than any receiver in football besides Chad Johnson. When you cancel both of those players out of the equation, it boils down to T.J. Houshmandzadeh against Syndric Steptoe. I think I'd take Houshmandzadeh any day of the week in that contest. The Browns still have Kellen Winslow at their disposal, but Anderson's chemistry with him hasn't been very high. The Bengals have had more support from Antonio Chatman on their depth chart to give them the slight edge heading into the game. Overall, the Browns still have the better talent. |
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Offensive Line
Eric Steinbach, after originally being reported as having an injury that would keep him out 3-5 weeks, is ACTIVE for today's game against the Bengals. That means the Browns' line should be completely healthy, and thank goodness -- Seth McKinney was horrible last week and also affected the play of Joe Thomas. The Bengals haven't had a dominant offensive line the past several years, something that has corresponded to the struggles of Carson Palmer. |
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Defensive Line With the Bengals struggling to get their running game going and an inexperience quarterback under center, this is a perfect opportunity for Shaun Rogers to put the heat on. Remember, we originally thought that the Cincinnati Bengals had acquired Rogers in the offseason, but then the deal was void and we ended up getting him instead. The Bengals only have one sack through three games, so trying to win the battle in the trenches shouldn't be much of a threat. |
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Linebacker
The Browns don't have playmakers at linebacker. On the other side of the field though, the Bengals don't even have guys that can tackle. Just take a look at their Week 1 matchup against the Baltimore Ravens, when they allowed Joe Flacco to run down the field for a 33 yard touchdown. Lewis could be in for a big day -- recall last season that he ran for over 200 yards against them in Week 2. |
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Secondary
Though the defensive backs were a big concern heading into the season, Brandon McDonald and Eric Wright have definitely held their own. The Bengals have yet to record a single interception this season and are not known as having a shutdown secondary. |
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Special Teams
Could this be the week that Joshua Cribbs makes the impact we've been looking for? If it's a high-scoring affair, then he'll get a lot of looks. Phil Dawson has been perfect this season, but he has not had any meaningful attempts yet. Hopefully he'll be able to make more of an impact on the game this week. |
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 24, Cincinnati Bengals 9.
If Carson Palmer was playing, I was thinking of picking the Bengals to defeat the Browns. With Ryan Fitzpatrick under center, things aren't going to be good for the Bengals. They struggled to move the ball the first two weeks due to awful schemes and playcalling -- only Palmer's abilities were able to bail him out of that. Unless Anderson single-handedly loses this game again, we shouldn't have any problems taking care of the Bengals. Tough to say when you're 0-3 though, eh?
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 4 as they face off against the Cincinnati Bengals. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Is Ian Eagle doing this game? I hope so.
Him and Solomon Wilcots are my favourite broadcast team.
Aw, it’s not. :-(
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Say it with me now. No third and longs
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 28, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
LOL
The announcer seems dead set on telling us how much both of the teams suck.
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Nice Jamal. Andre (K?)nott said we would be looking for “balance” this week on O. I took that to mean we would run the whole game.
whatever works
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Wright sighting
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OMG
Stop with the running plays! What’s wrong with a short pass?
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AH, settling for the 3. How Romeo.
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I think he uses the time to sneak cookies
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought a PA was called for there on second down.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 28, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
radio
Listening on Sirius, it’s amazing how many commercials/sponsors they make Donovan interject into every single thing that happens.
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by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 28, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I like about this NFL.com radio thing, no commercials
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why we have the Heinz Red Zone and the Safe Auto Minimum Coverage and the Time Warner Official’s Call and so on during the game.
I’m hoping for the “1000 Flushes Crappy Play of the Day”
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
“hey, and that’s a Papajohns.com first down!”
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
3
2nd & 3rd down, followed by a 1st down run
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Back now…liked the movement we got on the ball with Lewis on drive one. Next drive, it’s time to test what Anderson can bring to the table today.
The Bengals do not look good on offense right now. Way too tentative.
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New QB can cause that kind of thing
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Bengals were tentative the first two weeks of the season with Palmer.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha, penalty keeps our first down.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami’s direct snaps work.
Jacksonville’s direct snaps work.
Browns’ direct snap fails.
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I don’t know how anyone’s work. I wouldn’t believe that anyone other than maybe LT was actually going to throw the ball.
And Randle El.
Steptoe with a tight catch? Still, against the Bengals’ defense, how in the world can the coverage be that tight? Get open!
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“Steptoe caught it”. Hmm, odd phrase
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Bang! At least Crennel has been a little more true to Harrison this week.
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and then Cribbs taketh away
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
sounded like a sweet block by good ol’ Vickers
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Can we get a change of announcers? Harlan and Gannon are way too monotone for football action…
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Seriously, we need to take a shot deep to Braylon. None of these guys could cover him last year, so at worst, he will drop it.
he should try Old Spice Double Action. its two things
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
On the pass to Winslow, it could’ve been a little more to the outside. But, I think Winslow could’ve done a better job shielding his body to an undersized, young cornerback in Leon Hall.
The next pass…looked ugly, but the CBS crew do a bad job of truly showing what the “confusion” from Steve Sanders was. I certainly wouldn’t bench Anderson just yet.
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Two screen plays, including the one Harrison missed where DA’s fault as was the Winslow pass throughing it short. If your bar is DA not throwing INTs then he will never be benched. Luckily for you that’s Romeo’s bar too…
Your bar was not to play Anderson at all.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you give any quarterback that open of a middle to run on any down?
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if he tries that again I hope we can hit him a little harder
by cleveland teamer on Sep 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…bad move on his part, especially with a lack of depth already at QB.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez….credit to the QB on those two plays, I guess.
by cleveland teamer on Sep 28, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
I know we want to “crowd” the line of scrimmage, but we have been offsides way too much the past 2 weeks.
lack of discipline, which is caused by…shitty coaching
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Two offsides so early against a quarterback like Fitzpatrick? Stop doing the guy favors…
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Ridiculously poor containment on third downs by the Browns. Keep a defensive lineman plugging the middle.
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The only reason the Bengals are moving the ball is Fitzpatricks running.
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Which we can't seem to stop
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
and I thought I was negative. Funny though
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
two words I'm dying to hear
pick…six
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There we go — bring some pressure up the middle on third down.
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I expect a true playaction deep pass about 3-4 plays into this next drive.
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I pray for one
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that’d fall on Chud.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
We get it…you’re hoping Quinn gets in. It still doesn’t excuse some of the playcalling.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The Bengals are packing the line — have to make them respect the pass now.
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Jason Wright should’ve picked Ndukwe up as opposed to helping out the center/left guard area.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Wriight blew the assignment
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re also making Fitzpatrick look good
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The first blitzer was picked up by Steinbach.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe we should make him a WR
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Adams shows up for work
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Maybe he was just baiting QBs through the first 2 games to throw his way, and now he is capitalizing.
For a backup, I thought he has filled in better-than-expected overall.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Pick by Adams! Not great field position though after an illegal block in the back :-/
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better than a kick in the nuts
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Harlan: “…but the defense fights through.”
Really? Harrison had a pretty big gain there.
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REVERSE
with Harrison, no less. It worked and everything
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3 TE set! could be interestin
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Anderson’s pass to Lewis — one of his best plays this season.
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I like his accuracy on the 4-foot pass. Would like to see that on a 15-yarder.
by cleveland teamer on Sep 28, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
GO FOR IT
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Fitzpatrick has been so bad today…it will be a crime if we lose this game.
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Interception City.
And then the fumble. What a comedy of errors this game is.
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This is ridiculous…heck of a pick by Eric Wright, but then he loses it…
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo!
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Sep 28, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Hell, at this point they could come out with Todd Philcox and I’d live with it
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Quinn in the second half now. I still have my share of faith for Anderson, but we can’t go much further without doing something to jump start things.
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I’m still not sure why you have the faith coming into this game, but how can you have watched this half and still think he is a NFL starter????
Because I still remember the potential Derek Anderson showed when he was at his best, and I refuse to believe he’s fully at his best right now.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy, I thought our game’s score was a boring first half…then you look around at the rest of the scores and see much of the same.
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Eric Wright
Anyone who saw it, was that fumble as flukey as it sounded? Or did Wright screw up?
Alex Hall continues to be a bright spot
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Phil Savage is the worst GM ever. He can’t ever find talent in the late rounds! We should fire him with Romeo. The Browns suck and have sucked forever and will suck forever meeehhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I assumed.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF is wrong with Romeo? stopped them on 3rd down, two timeouts, why didn’t we throw a timeout to get the ball back with well over 50 seconds left…
Trying to get into halftime so he can get a snack.
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he still thinks those first half TOs rollover
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Check in the game preview at the top.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Against a real team, maybe. Against us, it worked just fine.
by Estonianzulu on Sep 28, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’ll go with saying they give Anderson the reigns since we get the ball first. If he can’t produce a score, he’s out.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I knew this team wouldn’t be as good this year as last. I was prepared for a step back. But this complete regression is insane.
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Run defense is a vast improvement.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Uggg, once again the only think i feel like I have to look forward to is next years draft. Of course, we’ll pass on Beanie and he’ll become the next Jim Brown.
Not to take anything off Anderson, but Harrison’s failed first down (leading to Anderson’s bad throw to Heiden on fourth down) was a big play.
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I was one of the biggest Anderson backers going into this year, but the simple fact is there just isn’t any spark there. He just doesn’t look right to me. Something is wrong and for the most part he hasn’t looked right since losing to Cincinnati last year.
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Upon my slow motion review, it looks like a clear catch by Steptoe. Unless there is a hidden juggle — then all bets are off.
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If it’s Anderson’s direct fault, probably. But if someone drops a pass or something wacky, probably not.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
…yay?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinn
Nothing they’ve done or said seems to indicate they’d change QBs in the middle of a game barring an injury. I think Romeo’s just too stubborn.
Well, there’s the play where Anderson was at fault. Let’s see if Quinn starts warming up.
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And now Fitzpatrick is driving on our defense, we are making him look like friggin Tom Brady. With the first overall pick in the NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select…
Come on, now…it wasn’t that bad. We’ve forced a punt now.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Derek Anderson is coming back out.
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Yep…let’s see what he can do from the 2-yard line.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A safety didn’t cross your mind?
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I'm thinking safety
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ARGGGG….. starting to be happy I didn’t get Direct TV this year. How does Quinn not get playing time?
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What does he have to do for Crennel to lose confidence in him….This is like Eric Wedge having a man crush on Casey Blake and forgetting that Andy Marte was building card castles on the bench
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year, this is where Anderson REALLY blew it against the Bengals, basically throwing two picks for touchdowns.
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Even the announcer knew that that route was about to be jumped.
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Well, Lewis is having a good game.
And so is our defense. Other than that, we suck.
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot, when the Bengals crowd the line and you can’t take advantage of the huge holes in their pass defense.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
if this offense was a horse, they’d have shot it by now
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I think the run to Jason Wright signaled that Anderson was done, possibly. “Cut our losses on this drive and start over next drive.”
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Edwards and DA fighting on the sideline, and Lewis apparently breaks it up. It doesn’t look as if Quinn is warming up or anything.
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Most emotion this team has shown this year….Our coach could watch a murder happen and still not show emotion
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But he wears a sweatshirt…making him sweet
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bang, NICE READ by D’Qwell Jackson. Come on everyone, if our offense can’t get fired up then let’s do it for them. COME ON BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Done.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Done.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
ask and ye shall recieve
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t understand this, do they have such a bad view of Quinn that they think he can do worse?
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson is killin my fansy team. Im a ravens fan but i wish the offense would pick it up
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
unless you’re in a 25-team league, should you really be starting DA?
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Testaverde’s always available
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell Spurgen Wynn looks like Peyton Manning right now
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a soldier we dress up in uniform….it’s kind of like olympians and home depot
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaffer out? Please don’t tell me Sowells is coming in. Dear god…
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This is just a laughable football game all-around.
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They may ban pro football in OH after this one.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd & 7 on Cleveland 40 according to my yahoo tracker…
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How can we not have ANY frickin plays be hit in stride this year. It’s all sitting down in coverage.
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what was the name of that lady doctor on that TV show in the 90s?
oh, yeah. Quinn.
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WOOOO!!! Nice run by Anderson. Come on, let’s go! Build some confidence here.
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probably
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
OH MY GOD A COMPLETION IN STRIDE! WE’RE BACK! ;)
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we can wait if you need to change your shorts
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Back in business.
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C.H.U.D. and Crennel may weigh in, too.
Thanks goodness for the break at the end of the quarter.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go, Brownies, here we go…if Anderson scores a touchdown on this drive, he has saved his job for another week/two perhaps…
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Because of 1 TD against a terrible defense?
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Trying to think through Crennel’s mind.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As demented as it is….Distorted view of reality
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice job, Anderson. That’s the throw we wanted earlier to Heiden.
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Haha, the Bengals just used their final timeout. Touchdown is even more valuable here now.
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Lewis adhering to the Romeo Crennel School of Clock Management
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
To much time in the film room….Romeo rubbed off on the Bungles
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Vickers continues to be old faithful
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He was an unsung hero last season, he’s back to his old tricks
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate that stupid new rule…defenders can push anyone out.
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That deserved the subject line.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s get PUMPED.
For the first time this season, the defense will be put to the test where it matters most: a small lead in the fourth quarter after holding them all game.
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Crazy game in New York:
Jets up 34-0 at halftime.
Score now 34-21 with time left in quarter three.
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His first half wouldn’t make you think that.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He sucked hard initially, but he’s really stepped up these last two weeks
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s the hot throw to Winslow. COME ON OFFENSE! MAKE US PROUD AGAIN!
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did someone give DA a shot of something during the half?
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First touchdown for Edwards.
First touchdown for Lewis.
Fourth quarter against the Bengals — the day our offense came back to life.
We can only hope.
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Every season needs a turning point
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pondering how different this game would be with Palmer in
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s safe to say we would’ve been down at this point.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
+2. Over at LGT we have rules against this kind of thing,
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Sep 28, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or has the PLAYCALLING also seemed to finally change? A lot more calls DOWN THE FIELD or TOWARDS THE END ZONE as opposed to sitting in zone on a comebacker.
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That’s what I said earlier….DA’s arm is built to go down field, something we haven’t done this year…
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I did….but since Romeo doesn’t have confidence in DA to go downfield he might as well put someone in who he is confident in
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Waited long enough. Also helped to remember Winslow was on the field
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe someone got in C.H.U.D.’s face, too?
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets not overreact here. This is the single worst team (outside of maybe Houston) that we play this year. And it took us 4 quarters to move on them.
and they didn’t have their starting QB in
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh…don’t crash the only optimism we’ve had on offense all season.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
radio says Vickers got hit in the eye by a beer bottle thrown by a scumbag, probably unemployed Bengals fan
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We have no room to talk on this particular subject.
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Inexperience, both on Mel Tucker’s part and some of the defenders.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re begging for a good zone play by a middle linebacker.
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great. To Ocho-Shitto, too
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Ocho-Shitto….i don’t know whether to laugh or raise my eyebrow and ask you if you could have come up with something better
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ocho-Stinko seemed too tame
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
this penaty brought to you by Time Warner. seems appropriate
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I would be in Cover 3 zone or Cover 1 man, rushing 4 or 5 every time. Maybe a blitz rusing 6 in the right situation
Blitzing would be advisible
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re just out to get me today aren’t you
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy!!!!!!!!!
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Alex Hall is awesome
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and I didnt start Kevin Walter. dammit.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I didnt start Shaub in facor of Aaron Rogers and Rogers got hurt in the 4th quarter. Cost me 30 pts. I still might win though.
by gentryholdem on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
OK Debbie Downer, lets try to enjoy the present
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
man, i’ve been following all game online, just assumed that this game wasn’t on tv… what the hell is two 0-3 ohio teams doing being on free tv in Chicago?
oh, and whatever happens this season, savage is still awesom. go hall.
Than last year, yes. Today? EHhhhh I think against Pitt they played better. Mike Adams sounds like a real NFL player today, though. The whole secondary sounds like it’s played well. I am excited for Jones and Pool to be on the field at the same time.
again, they’re going against a backup
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno…..DA may have saved his job in Romeo’s mind
by Tribe_Hippie on Sep 28, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A W is a W, signs of life from the offense/playcalling, I will take it.
Still hoping we can get a look at Quinn sometime to see what he can do.
Short of running off 5 straight and getting back in this thing (Wash, Jax, Balt, Den, Buf, Hou), I think the best possible senario for this season is something like 7-9, 8-8, and DA doing enough to show he’s a Starting caliber QB, not Pro Bowl maybe, but not awful (85 rating at 25 years old or something).
That way maybe we can get a 2nd for him and the Quinn era starts after a loaded draft next spring.
Woooo!!!!
That was possibly one of the most boring games ever. It reminded me of the SEC.
But it’s a win!!!!
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Hell yes.
I still think Anderson sucks really bad. But right now, I’m just pumped up for our first win. Losing sucks and losing to the bungles is even worse. GO BROWNS.
Now, lets have a productive bye week, maybe make a QB change and head back towards respectability.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
15 torn ACLs
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 28, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think I could root for Pittsburgh if they were 2-13 and we need them to knock off another team to get into the playoffs.
Interesting question, as I discussed the same thing with some of my relatives yesterday.
I would much rather see Baltimore win, because I think eventually they’ll collapse due to their offensive ineptness. Meanwhile, the Steelers have too much experience to be a basement team. So, it’d be better for them to soak in a loss right now so that they don’t jump too far ahead of us in the standings. This goes along with the presumption that the Ravens will go on to finish a 6-10 or 7-9 team.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The way Baltimore D is playing, their may not be a collapse due to our offensive ineptness. All our offense has to do is not mess up and put a least 2 tds on the board. if we are able to get a small lead going into the 4th, our D will hold it or may even make it larger. You guys know all about that.(not starting any troble).
FEAR THE NEVERMORE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree, it is very dangerous to just casually say “sure, let’s give the Ravens three division wins and expect them to just roll over and die!”
It doesn’t look like any of the AFC North teams are good enough to beat any of the NFC East teams though. Taking that into consideration, it’ll probably come down to how each of the AFC North teams do against each other the second time around.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 28, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the bye week will help the offense get healthy and the Browns to be show up. glad to have a victory, this team would have fallen apart with a L b/c of lack of leadership. Nothing to be excited about though except for a bye
Returns of JJ, Stallworth, Rucker, possibly seeing Beau Bell, Ryan Tucker (did he play today?), possibly but doubtfully Sean Jones, getting Steinbach to 100%…those all seem to be things to be excited about to me.
The training staff and Stallworth have two weeks to get him healed and on the field.
Joe J has to stay out for six games, right?
by JulioBernazard on Sep 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was six weeks, and then he has to practice within a week or something or be put on IR. Regardless, it is something to be excited about later on in the season.
I believe it’s something like this: they are eligible to return after Week 6. If they can’t return by Week 9 (or 10, not sure), then they get IR’ed.
Rucker could be back for the Giants game if he stayed on schedule.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 29, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Here are the rules, pulled from this article about LeCharles Bentley (SOB)
During the first six weeks of the regular season, players on Reserve/PUP are allowed to attend meetings and continue rehabilitation at the club facility, but are not eligible to practice with the club.
After the sixth week, the club has a three-week window (Weeks 7-9) to allow a player on Reserve/PUP to begin practicing with the club. Once the player begins practice, he can practice for three weeks before the club must make a decision as to his roster status.
At any point following the sixth week of the regular season through the expiration of the player’s three week practice window, the club can add the player to the 53-man roster or place the player on Reserve-Injured. Additionally, at the expiration of the practice window, the club can allow the player to remain on Reserve/PUP for the remainder of the season.
Meant to add, having Rucker and Stallworth could be potentially huge. I would be really happy if that were the case and even happier if Rucker saw some playing time in contravention to Crennel’s not usually playing rookies strategy.
Stallworth would be huge. He would completely change the way defenses are playing us. It would open Winslow up big time.
We clearly need offensive weapons right now, so I hope the fact the Rucker is a rookie won’t affect things his PT much, but it probably will. I am disappointed to hear we have to wait until after week 6.
Love Rucker’s versatility, and with him, Vickers, Harrison, Winslow, we have a good handful of offensive guys who are versatile. I would love to see them shift a lot to create mismatches and false reads.

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