Dallas Cowboys vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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| Date: | September 7, 2008 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 4:15 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Browns Stadium |
| TV: | FOX |
Favorite: | Cowboys by 5½ |
| Radio: | WMMS, 100.7 FM | Over/Under: | 49 |
| SBN Coverage: | Blogging the Boys | Announcers |
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On opening day last season, the Cleveland Browns were blown out of their own stadium by the Pittsburgh Steelers. That blowout was somewhat of a blessing in disguise, because it accelerated the process of the Browns becoming the team that they are today: a powerhouse offense led by Derek Anderson. With a power offense established, Phil Savage went out and tried to improve the team's defensive line by acquiring Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams during the offseason. The offense is bound to succeed at home, where they were 6-0 under Anderson last season. However, the defense will have their hands full against the 2nd-highest scoring offense in all of football last season -- the Dallas Cowboys. Can Terrell Owens be stopped by our young secondary? Will Romo be sitting in the pocket all day long?
Let's get right to it in this Super Bowl preview (har har) between the Browns and the Cowboys...
For Week 1 only, the statistics below are for the 2007-2008 football season.
OFFENSE
| Category | Cowboys | Browns |
| Points Scored | 28.4 (2nd) | 25.1 (8th) |
| Passing | 256.6 (4th) | 232.9 (12th) |
| Rushing | 109.1 (17th) | 118.4 (10th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 365.7 (3rd) | 351.3 (8th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Cowboys | Browns |
| Points Scored | 20.3 (13th) | 23.9 (21st) |
| Passing | 213.1 (13th) | 230.1 (25th) |
| Rushing | 94.6 (6th) | 129.5 (27th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 307.6 (9th) | 359.6 (30th) |
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Quarterback I don't believe Derek Anderson will suffer from not playing in the final two preseason games. He participated in all of training camp, one good preseason game, and in practice this week, which is plenty of time to get prepared for the season opener. After throwing 29 touchdowns last season, now it's time for Anderson to prove he is not a one-year wonder. The Browns could've taken the easy way out and traded him in the offseason for a high draft pick, but Romeo Crennel and company are rightfully giving him another year at the position. For the Cowboys, Tony Romo returns after also having a great season last year. The regular season has not been a problem for him -- it's the postseason where he needs to start excelling. Romo has more experience on comparable scales, but at this point he and Anderson deserve an even ranking. |
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Running Back Having to split carries with Julius Jones the past two seasons, Marion Barber is finally the featured tailback in Dallas. He has really excelled in rather limited action the past two years, averaging 4.8 yards a carry and 14 touchdowns per season. Although he's a good receiver out of the backfield too, that role may shift a little more to rookie running back Felix Jones, who showed a lot of burst in the preseason. Things are somewhat unclear for the Browns: Jamal Lewis had a tremendous season last year, but he enters this season with a hamstring injury and a "game-time decision" label next to his name. If Lewis can't start, the Cowboys will receive the favorable matchup here with Jerome Harrison getting his first career start. Right now, I'm banking on Lewis starting the game and seeing how things go from there. |
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Receiver It's funny that the attention seems to be away from receiver Terrell Owens these days. Why not, when you have Chad Johnson on the Cincinnati Bengals saying the oddest crap in the world and going so far as to officially change his last name to a joke. Imagine Travis Hafner saying, "I'm now Travis Pronk". As elite as Owens is for the Cowboys, Braylon Edwards proved to be just as elite for the Browns last year. Owens has better open field abilities, but Edwards had the edge when it comes to going up and grabbing a ball out of the air. The Browns are also evenly matched at the tight end position -- there is no doubt that Jason Witten and Kellen Winslow are at the top of the tight end list in their respective conferences. With each team having those two weapons and a lack of depth after their No. 2 wide receivers, you have to wonder if a key to the game will be stopping either Patrick Crayton or Donte Stallworth. I'm hoping Stallworth shows a respectable amount of chemistry with Anderson. |
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Offensive Line The Cowboys are stacked at offensive line, featuring LT Flozell Adams, C Andre Gurode, RG Leonard Davis, and RT Marc Colombo. Having LG Kyle Kosier in the mix too would complete the group, but he is out with an injury and will be replaced by backup Cory Procter. Let's hope that Shaun Rogers has some encounters with him. The Browns have an equally good offensive line, but they'll have their hands full against the Cowboys' pass rush. Anderson was the least sacked quarterback in football last year, but if Lawrence Vickers, Jamal Lewis, Jason Wright, and Steve Heiden don't get their "chips" on the DeMarcus Ware's, Anderson will at the very least be on his back several times as he's throwing the football. |
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Linebacker I've been calling on Andra Davis to have a big year throughout the offseason, but I need to clarify that statement a little: he needs to have a big game against the serious contenders. That starts today against the Cowboys, where he could be relied on fill in the gap left by Kosier on the Cowboys' offensive line. The Cowboys earn the edge without question at linebacker for having two of the better edge-rushing outside linebackers in the NFC: DeMarcus Ware and Greg Ellis. Both men had double figure sacks last season, not to mention all of the hits they lay on opposing quarterbacks. Ware can line up on the inside too, meaning that just because Joe Thomas stops him, that doesn't mean he won't get to Anderson. |
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Secondary It's looking more and more like Cowboys cornerback Terence Newman will miss the game altogether, leaving former Brown Anthony Henry and Adam Jones as the team's starters. There is an underrated aspect about Jones, especially if he's matched up with Braylon Edwards. Jones did not play all of last season, and with a position as tough to play as cornerback, facing one of the best player's in the league is not exactly the ideal way to get your feet wet again. It'd be unfair to turn around and assume that Brandon McDonald and Eric Wright, along with our safeties (likely minus Brodney Pool), will be to prevent Terrell Owens from reaching the end zone or Jason Witten from having success. All we can hope to do it contain them enough to allow our offense to succeed just a little bit more. |
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Special Teams Kick returner Joshua Cribbs is listed as a "game-time decision". I hope that he's healthily able to give it a go, but if not, the Browns still have solid blocking in the return game and should allow Syndric Steptoe to have some favorable returns. I'd also give the slight edge to Phil Dawson over Nick Folk, but overall, there isn't a lot of separation between the two. There's a potential it may rain this afternoon, and temperatures will be only in the mid-70s for the game. Hopefully those tough-weather conditions benefit Dawson over Folk (see the Snow Bowl last season). |
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 27, Dallas Cowboys 24.
I can't say I'm overly confident with this prediction, but I am confident that we're going to see one heck of a football game. The real difference in the game will come in the fourth quarter of the game. In the past, if our defensive line had held up against an opposing team's running back, they would collapse in the second half. Shaun Rogers' endurance is still in question, but I'm projecting him to deliver in his debut game. With the Cowboys unable to run the ball and put us away, the Browns will have the ball last and throw the ball down the field to set up a game-winning field goal by Phil Dawson.
This is the official gameday topic for the Cleveland Browns in Week 1 as they square off against the Dallas Cowboys. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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I love the Browns, and yes I love the Chicago Cubs, and yes I love agony.
That being said, I am not so optomistic about this coming year, and I am not so positive about the opener.
Cowgirls 36 Browns 26.
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The countdown clock seems off by an hour. It says 4 hours and 50-some minutes from now… that’s not right, as the game is less than 4 hours away, right?
Or am I just mad with anticipation?
I think you’re just mad with anticipation. The game starts at 4:15 PM EST.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, and the countdown currently says 4 hours and 19 minutes. It’s 11:41 CST now (i’m in Chicago). Thus, four hours and 19 mins from now would be 4 o’clock, CST. Which is 5 EST.
Or am I Truly Mad? I’m expecting a game to start at 3 pm central time, and that’s 3 hours and 19 mins from now.
Strange — on my computer, it says 3 hours 6 minutes.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah… yeah, it says 3 hours 55 mins right now for me. Maybe it’s linked to a computer’s clock, which would eliminate the difference in time zone if it’s just aiming for 4:00…
Thanks for letting me know that…I’ll try to alert the creator of the countdown clock.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know of any online broadcasts?
Denver’s fox station lied to me all week saying it was playing the Browns game, but now it is telling me I get San Diego and Carolina.
Two Links
Moohead’s: http://www.mogulus.com/mooheadradio
BrownsBackers: http://www.brownsbacker.com/online.htm
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Boomer and Cowher just picked the Browns to win on the CBS pregame show.
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Tom Brady just left the Patriots game with after a D-lineman fell on his left leg. Matt Cassel is now in at QB. Everybody expected them to dominate the Chiefs, but if Brady is out then it’s a whole new ballgame. Cassel looked terrible in the preseason from everything I’ve heard.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
Yeah, that was a sick looking hit (though unintentional). I hope Brady is ok — it’d be a real shame to lose one of the league’s premiere quarterbacks.
Steelers up 14-0 early on here, with Willie Parker looking strong.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got no special gripes with Brady, but Dierdorf sounded like he was going to cry after that play…which was a bit much to take.
by APV on Sep 7, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Cassel with a quick touchdown.
A new Tom Brady emerges ;) Although Cassel looked bad this preseason, he’s been HEAVILY prepped for this the past several years in the preseason.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Steelers are about to beat the Texans worse than they did the Browns last season in Week 1.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget to predict the first offensive play of the season and win $25:
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2008/9/3/606712/the-browns-first-offensive
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speaking of fantasy… looks like ill be 1-0 after this week! too bad Brady didnt get me any points tho.
by kjc on Sep 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
naw i got frank gore left… willie parker was huge for me today even tho i hate him.
by kjc on Sep 7, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
smack talk aside
Parker was absolutely huge for you today. Do you think he is feeling threatened by Mendenhall?
Gameday Inactive Lists
Browns Inactives: DL Ahtyba Rubin, SS Brodney Pool, WR Josh Cribbs, QB Ken Dorsey, LB Kris Griffin, TE Martin Rucker, OG Rex Hadnot, OT Ryan Tucker are inactive for Week 1.
Cowboys Inactives: LB Anthony Spencer, CB Courtney Brown, OT Doug Free, OT Kyle Kosier, WR Miles Austin, OG Montrae Holland, WR Sam Hurd, CB Terence Newman are inactive for Week 1.
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So do the Cowboys actually have someone on the active roster as a 3rd WR?
and don’t say Jason Witten.
Yes
Isaiah Stanback is their No. 3 receiver. They added a fourth from the practice squad too.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Is anybody watching Bengals-Ravens? Joe Flacco just had a 48-yard TD run. Yes, 48 yards!!! He made some nice moves — especially for a QB. Ravens up 17-3 at the end of the third. Bengals offense looks terrible.
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
It was actually 38 yards, but still embarrassing nonetheless. That was worse than the Chiefs letting Derek Anderson run crazy a few years back.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So, in my one fantasy league, I needed a QB. I wasn’t sold on a lot of my options, but I dealt Michael Turner and Nate Burleson for DeAngelo Williams, Mark Bulger and Eddie Royal. Not feeling so good about that trade right now…
It doesn’t sound like the worst trade at the time, depends on how healthy you thought the Rams O-line was going to hold up. Remember, Michael Turner will not break 60+ yard TD runs every week… even though I hope he does, since I traded for him in the league I am in. In all honesty, I need to tell that to myself, too. In every good trade, you have to give up some value if you want to get value
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
I just noticed that rookie LB Beau Bell is NOT on the inactive list for this game. He’ll probably only be on special teams, but still…intriguing…
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All I know is that the original report was that Rucker would be out a little longer than Bell.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted to see Favre hold on.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
as much as I like Farve (lived in central WI for about 5 years in between living in houses 5 miles apart in Lake County – move 3 states over to end up moving 3 miles over, go figure), the Jets are going to be more dangerous than Miami, so Go Pennington!
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Really weird to have to wait until 4:15 for a game in Cleveland.
Even weirder to actually GET the game here in DC without going to a sports pub.
Let’s rock.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
I love this board
50 comments before the game even starts
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Steptoe on the return. Guess no Cribbs
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First play: Lewis for 3 yards (Checks the prediction topic)
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I’ll have to check the official stats after the game — if it sticks at 3 yards, you’re the winner it appears :D
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah :D
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, its almost weird to be able to actually SEE the game here in SoCal
had to use Gamecenter most of last year
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I have a huge man-crush on Aikman as a color-man.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
well, that could have gone better
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Disappointed to see the muffed snap on 3rd-and-1. At least our defense isn’t faced with bad field position.
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I wish we had lit up Pacman on the return. Want to see him carried off the field
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say it’s too hard to tell. The blame game could be placed on either of them from judgment.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...Romo had about a month to throw it
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I think Dallas’ O would quality as “highly vaunted”
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
Dallas isn’t going to test the middle of our line early.
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Now that's some run defense
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Picking up our blitz seemed pretty effort-less.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
CRAP.
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Barber did a nice job picking up the blitz there.
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Okay…Romo could have stood there all day on that.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
At least our run defense is looking ok early.
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Stuffing the run is less helpful when they can pass at will
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My early pick for understatement of the game.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw gee, you'll make me blush
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m all for blitzes, especially if we can sign another good shutdown DB, one out there?
"Come round the bend, you know it's the end ---
"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
First down Cowboys…I don’t care how improved we are, Dallas is gonna get in with four attempts here.
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Crap on a crap cracker
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OK, let’s try to out score them!
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Fine by me, as long as it’s not in every single post or something with unusual excessive use.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Do the Browns stay patient on offense, or go aerial now?
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hell with it, lets put on an air show. Do the Bengals game from last year all over again.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d really like us to stay patient. Freaking out after one drive, no matter how terrible our pass defense looked, doesn’t seem like a good enough reason to just scrap the game plan.
Now, if our game plan was to go aerial…go for it..
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My sentence-making ability is already gone. This may be a long game as my grammar and language devolves to that of Italian-mob film.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t like Steptoe’s return there. Didn’t he run away from our wedge and right towards two Cowboy defenders?
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Ugly
Really missing Cribs about now
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember, folks, we don’t need to be better than Dallas now – or in any other week execpt for week 19. We just need to be better than the rest of the division.
Any way we can get a cupcake on opening day every year like the league’s teacher’s pet… um, I mean Dan Rooney’s boys?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
or the Patriots
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Word on Stallworth: strained groin during pregame, unsure of return.
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Well, shit
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Fortunate penalty, hands to the face. Now, we need to take advantage of this right now.
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Not to echo the talking heads, but I was thinking when they said it, we need Harrison or Wright to step up and give that Mack / Byner threat
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
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by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
huh?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
DAMMIT. C'mon Braylon
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Oh come on…two catchable passes by Braylon Edwards are missed! ARG…
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K2 klutch as always
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What a bullet.
I was fortunate enough to be at the game when DA first came in (OT game against KC two seasons ago) and my first reaction to him was: “Whoa…where the hell did that come from.”
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
Klutch Winslow Jr
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I want to keep the run in the mix, but damn I just want pass after pass at the same time.
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if the air game is working, keep on rollin', I say
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Braylon with some redemption
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HEIDEN!!!
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LOVE that play. Absolutely in love with that on 3 and 1.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
I knew it was a good idea to wear my Heiden jersey today
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I’m going to say this now to preempt anything that may happen in this game:
Time for beer.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions
still, give me a Great Lakes Porter, or even better a GL Stoit. Victory Imperial Stout is good for the hopheads who want a big beer too… Haven’t had the Rocky River Brewing RIS, but I hear that is great, too. Have to get out to the west side to try it! Maybe on a Sunday — do they have NFL sunday ticket?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Weird thing: I wasn’t hungry or thirsty when the game started. But instinctively I grabbed a beer and some pretzels. I’ve trained myself too well…
Killian's Irish Red
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
could go worse, especially since we do not have access to Leinie’s Red… If you see it, try it. you will not be disappionted. from someone who used to live in Leinie’s back yard
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Sheesh…already a second thread over at Blogging the Boys. Am I going to have to do that here too? :p
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Wade seems upset
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Unnoticed:
No holding calls on us thus far.
Cue the holding penalty anytime now.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Gosh, why does one quarter have to fly by so quick? Let’s punch it in when we get back.
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That would help
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll be curious to see how many people run the fade with the new pushout rules. The jump ball is more likely, but not from this far away.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
not like they called the OLD pushout rule correctly.
not that I’m bitter
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Wright gets the carry for a first down…
Four downs to get the ball in now from short distance. I want pass.
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May have been called had the ball been lower.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that fade was a throwaway. Too much breakdown inside.
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Flag on Dickhead Jones
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I bet Pac is real happy to have his name called there, aye Troy?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
That’s right, Pacman. You can’t completely trip Edwards ;) Possibly part of his rustiness.
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Is anyone else getting choppy reception from FOX here and there?
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pretty clean for me
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The cameras that show the wide shots of the stadium seem very studder-y to me.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
TOUCHDOOOOOOOOOWN
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nice Play Action! TD!!!!
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Thank you Cowboys for the penalties. Nice long, long, long drive.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
The Cowboys have a solid run defense, so I’m glad we didn’t stay stubborn and try to bullrush it in every down.
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Time for the defense to step up now — the Cowboys did give us a few gifts with penalties on that last drive (though we also gave them a gift with Edwards’ deep drop).
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The key to that last drive? Steve Heiden.
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Ah, Mapleton. Our whipping boys ;)
I hated going to football games there. It was out in the middle of nowhere and always cold. (By the way, I didn’t play football. I was in the band!)
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
I played freshman year, then moved to the band. You guys always made us park up on the hill and come down through that freaking woods. We lost our QB one year when he tripped on a root on that hill and rolled his ankle. Not like we would have won anyhow (I think the final was like 47-6), but I blamed the loss on that anyhow.
At our place? There are no woods around the field, only houses and streets.
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Illegal formations don’t matter for Dallas if they can come right back and fire 20-yard strikes at ease.
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I think Pool only needs one more concussion for a free yogurt
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Whose No. 94? Horrible job on that run by Barber I think.
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Leon Williams.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he just tackle Barber by his dreds?
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Okay.
First person that even TOUCHES Romo in the backfield gets a free pizza.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
LG Cory Proctor with a hold filling in for Kyle Koshier. Already a little difference maker there for Dallas, though Shaun Rogers forced it.
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Dallas is REALLY helping us out with penalties.
But as Chris said — don’t matter much if they can make it up in huge chunks every play.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks, I forgot the Indians played already.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
MOTHERFUCKER
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We did nothing right on that play.
Nothing.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Celebrate… good times…. come on!
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
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kwoog, I know it is way too early for the verdict to be back, but BMac looked terrible on that play.
was it zone? Looked like TO was in the slot, right, and he was late getting on him w/ no over the top help b/c jackson’s blitz did nothing.
Not sure they even noticed the blitz
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
best hope is to outscore them. Time to put the pedal to the metal. Then we only need a couple of stops...
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Church. as the kids say
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, keep the time of possession high.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So what is next on Phil’s shopping list — LBs or DBs? One coverage sack would be nice
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
I’ll take a coverage incompletion.
I’m not asking for much.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
or just a regular incompletion
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Joshua Cribbs,
Get well soon.
-Browns Community
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P.S.
HELP!!!
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This commercial with Seinfield/Gates was ok the first time, but now it’s just too damn long…
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did he really say “El Conquistador?” If so, did he rip that one off from Tom Mabe, the telemarketer’s worst nightmare?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Jim Brown looks like he wants to go play Defense.
I say let him.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
could probably blitz better than Jackson
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Heck of an effort by Heiden…I’ve never seen him dive out like that.
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nice bulldozing by Lewis
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Props to Jim Brown. Bet he would only gain about 1000 yards in a season with the 16 game seasons they have now… but then again he IS pushing 70 years of age…..
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Little too much on that one, DA....
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true, true
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell…Zastudil is brilliant in the preseason but craps his second regular season attempt?
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most of us on the thread could have punted it that far
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
if he punts that way all day, then yeah, but realize that was only one punt. Any of us here would shank several, without a medical condition
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Apple?
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just try to trick them into running the ball every down, since their passing game is struggling.
Oh, wait.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this.
Glass half full.
It’s a shame the other half is backwash.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Whew, thankfully McDonald had that scouted somewhat.
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sweet.
but how are we supposed to get pressure when we rush 3 against 5? there are three probowlers on that OL
Hey, we forced a punt! Alright!
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Can't wait for the season finale, which should be 6 weeks later
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy, this is not Braylon Edwards’ day…time to shape up fast.
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Dear Braylon:
You catch. The ball. Catch it.
Thanks,
Us
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
4th drop. Not a quality throw, to be fair
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As they say over at LGT..
Bad time machine. Bad.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Much better, Dave
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Shantee Orr makes his impression on special teams.
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Was just going to write that (so I didn’t have to write anything about that turd of a series).
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We need more than 7 points in a half if we’re going to win ANY game.
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Witten with a drop…not really a positive for us.
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Nice route. Great throw.
Braylon must have looked at him.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Except for pitch plays, we’re stopping the run. That at least bodes well against teams with porous offensive lines…
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Saw those too. Ref's managed not to.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I ask it again, LB or DB to improve the team?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
LB
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, and we even got some pressure, and we STILL blew it
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props to the coverage, sometimes good players make good plays
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Was just typing this. As much as I hate TO…he’s a damn fine WR.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit we got a sack!
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Robair Smith! You win the pizza for touching Romo in the backfield first!
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Ugh…hands to the face :-/ Wipes out the sack…
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Bad call especially since their OL used hands to the face to knock Rogers’ helmet off.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, we see hat but not the holds on the Barber play? Assholes.
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What, Dallas get called for a hold? The best offensive line in the universe? Heaven forfend! Joe Buck would go into shock and have to be replaced by someone with talent.
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Forfend. there's a word I haven't heard since college.
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
garbage call, no matter what the heads say. stuff like that goes on with every play
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--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
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Aikman <3s the boys. Buck <3s Aikman. I’m not sure Oliver is even at the game.
by JulioBernazard on Sep 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather have the Cowboys get a quick score here (if they do score) so we at least have time to retaliate.
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Damn, that tip was our chance. Nice read by Davis.
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Derek Anderson really?
How could you people sit through a mess of a player like Anderson? Then again you live in Cleveland.
Although our DL has sucked, I really think Dallas is going to do this to a lot of teams.
Their OL may really be that good.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh. That strikethrough is really not supposed to be there.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
BALLS.
that was crap
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At this point, I would take a nice pine-tree.
At least it would get in the way of somebody.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe one of those wacky arm-waving inflatable tube men
might at least get a deflection
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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by BringBackKosar on Sep 7, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
New second half thread? This one’s getting kludgey.
Andy Marte is free at last! Now, if only he got to bat with men on base...
Coming up at half time, will do.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 7, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear FOX is collecting dontaions for Troy Aikman’s Blue and White cheerleader skirt…
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
Not that we don’t know crap when we see it. but WHY THE BOOS IN THE STADIUM FROM THE CAFE LATTE TYPES WHO WANT TO GET OFF THE BUS?
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"The Fireman screams while the engine just gleams!!"
--- Robert Hunter, "Casey Jones"
"There's a gleam, men... There's a gleam. Let's get the gleam!" -Marty
I really think the “cafe latte” group is incredibly small for us.
We’re just emotional. Real, real emotional.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Sep 7, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
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