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with the notable exception of the atrocious mismanagement of the quarterback position...

coach mangini has clearly taken a ton of heat from fans, local and national media, and everyone in between (except, maybe, randy lerner). however, i truly believe that you could strike every mention of "mike singletary" in the attached article, and replace it with "eric mangini".

singletary and mangini clearly share the EXACT same philosophy: team, discipline, execution, sacrifice, accountability, win-first. singletary, though, steps into a situation with more talent (and a much worse division) and is having SI articles written about him. mangini is being burned in effigy.

i don't think mangini's approach is wrong, but he clearly lacks the street cred that singletary has with the 49ers. i don't know how that changes, but, to me, our issue is not mangini's style...it's more the composition of our roster.

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It changes by winning

by Roger Dorn on Oct 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

true enough. something i would argue is impossible w/ this roster.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 1, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It changes by at least appearing to attempt to keep the opposition off balance. This is done by calling plays that are not expected. It changes by drafting players who are impact, rather than trading down and collecting marginal older players. I agree that there are elements of Mangini’s process that can be successful, but it doesn’t describe his full approach.

by elsandito on Oct 2, 2009 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning changes everything for the fans and much of the national media.

As far as local media is concerned, there’s a good chance that Mangini outlasts the Plain Dealer as a going concern.

by e.c. matter on Oct 1, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sad but true. I put the over/under at 3 years for both of them.

by drjeo on Oct 2, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mangini wont be here after this year.

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 2, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he will.

by gahnki on Oct 2, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately.

by Simmsinns on Oct 2, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if he wins less than 4 games

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 2, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a completely arbitrary number. Unless you are Mr. Lerner, of course. Which you aren’t.

by gahnki on Oct 3, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As if anyone knows that.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 3, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will be here. He signed a 4 year deal.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 5, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you make it sound like it’s a unique philosophy. As if these are the only two coaches who took this approach.

It could be said that Dick Jauron and Bill Walsh have the same basic approach to coaching. And it would be an equally misleading statement.

I hate the fact that it’s week 4 and I’ve already written off this coach… I will happily eat my words.

by Pruitt on Oct 3, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

isn’t this a fairly unique approach in today’s NFL? if dick jauron uses it, well, he hasn’t used it to the end of success on the football field, and bill walsh is really completely irrelevant to this discussion.

belichick obviously employs the tough guy approach, but away from that i can’t speak very intelligently on the topic of coaching philosophies across the NFL. i guess the point is that singletary is being written up by a major sports-news outlet for his philosophy, and the results he’s gotten with that philosophy. my intention in pointing this out is that singletary and mangini have essentially the same coaching style, but mangini is being crucified.

which is all a very long way of saying that there’s no reason you should have written mangini off so far.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they may have the same philosophy but their approach couldn’t be any more different. Singletary is very down to earth and relatable so he draws people in. Mangini is cold and distant, which isolates people. Manigini needs to develop his own persona rather than trying to imitate Belicheat/

by Rocland on Oct 9, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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