Cleveland Browns vs. Buffalo Bills - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
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The last time the Cleveland Browns won a football game was last season against the Buffalo Bills in Ralph Wilson Stadium. The Browns have a chance to add on to their current winning streak against the Bills using their momentum from last week's close contest against the Cincinnati Bengals.
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (0-4) | WEEK 5 | BUFFALO BILLS (1-3) | |||
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| Date: | October 11, 2009 | Location: | Buffalo, NY |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Ralph Wilson Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Bills by 6½ |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 41½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Buffalo Rumblings | Announcers |
Don Criqui, Randy Cross |
Last year, it was Brady Quinn who defeated the Bills. This year, it's Derek Anderson who will receive that opportunity. One thing remains the same in this situation though: the threat of running back Jerome Harrison, who made highlight reels with his 80-yard touchdown last year.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics heading into Week 5...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Bills |
| Points Scored | 12.2 (30th) | 18.5 (23rd) |
| Passing | 172.2 (26th) | 180.0 (25th) |
| Rushing | 90.0 (27th) | 110.8 (14th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 262.2 (29th) | 290.8 (26th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns |
Bills |
| Points Scored | 29.5 (31st) | 27.5 (28th) |
| Passing | 226.5 (22nd) | 226.5 (21st) |
| Rushing | 176.8 (31st) | 150.5 (27th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 403.2 (32nd) | 377.0 (27th) |
| CLEVELAND BROWNS | Position | BUFFALO BILLS | ||
| This isn't a case of me being overly confident due to Derek Anderson's one "average" game last week. I've never liked Trent Edwards, and I'd take Derek Anderson over him. |
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QB | Trent Edwards has the threats to go down the field in Terrell Owens and Lee Evans but has been unsuccessful in getting them the ball. His best throws are usually to the running backs. |
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| Jamal Lewis might be a game-time decision, but I hope Jerome Harrison still gets the bulk of the carries. He did very well last week and deserves the chance to start. |
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The combination of Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch can be real tough for a defense like the Browns. Both are threats to catch the ball, which I see being a match-up problem for us. |
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| The Browns are without Braylon Edwards now, which should give way to guys like Brian Robiskie and Chansi Stuckey to step up. It'll be interesting to see if Massaquoi gets double-teamed. |
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Edwards is having trouble getting them the ball, but Terrell Owens and Lee Evans, with the right quarterback, has the potential to be a very good receiving pair. |
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| The Browns' offensive line had its best game of the season last week, with the left side of the line continuing strong and Alex Mack having the best start of his rookie season. With Derek Anderson getting rid of the ball, the right side of the line didn't appear as a weakness. |
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OL | If the Browns are ever going to get aggressive on defense with exotic blitzes, it should be against the Bills. The Bills' offensive line has been patched together this season, as Edwards is being sacked four times a game. |
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| Shaun Rogers was great on special teams last week. I'm looking for someone else to step up between Robaire Smith and Kenyon Coleman. |
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Thomas' threat this week is Aaron Schobel. Schobel is good, but Thomas has proven he can stop anybody. |
| The Browns' leader on defense, D'Qwell Jackson, probably won't play today. If David Veikune starts in his place, this will be a position I'll have my eyes on all game long. |
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The Bills, like the Browns, have been torched in trying to stop the run. The Bills don't generate too much pass rushing pressure from their linebackers either. |
| Edwards is prone to some poor interceptions. Our secondary only has one pick this season, and I think that'll change today. |
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DB | Buffalo Rumblings made it seem like they won't miss Leodis McKelvin, but with him and starting safety Donte Whitner unavailable this week, this is a great week for our young receivers to find some holes in a makeshift secondary. |
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| I shouldn't have doubted Joshua Cribbs last week. Taking some of his duties on offense away seemed to benefit him on special teams. |
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ST | Rian Lindell has been consistent for the Bills, although he's had his struggles against the Browns. |
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I'm playing the momentum game here. The Bills have been blown out the past two weeks, while the Browns finally looked like a real football team under Derek Anderson. The last time the Browns won a game was last season at Ralph Wilson Stadium, and we also beat the Bills two seasons ago in the snow-bowl. Browns win a close game.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 20, Buffalo Bills 17.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 3-1
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 46-16
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 5 as they take on the Buffalo Bills. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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GAMEDAY INACTIVES
Browns: K Phil Dawson, CB Coye Francies, DB Gerard Lawson, RB Chris Jennings, OLB Alex Hall, G Rex Hadnot, TE Greg Estandia, QB Brett Ratliff (3rd QB)
Hadnot’s been out longer than originally projected. Francies and Hall are out.
Jamal Lewis is active and so is D’Qwell Jackson. I wonder if both will start, or if they’ll be reserves.
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Coye should be starting, not inactive.
I wonder what happened to hall.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 11, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
fantasy help
i have been thinking about this all week, but i still have no clue.
i have deangelo williams starting. should i go with ronnie brown or jerome harrison? jets defense is way better, but i feel like jamal will get the goal-line carries.
So, the Edward banging Cleveland has begun.
I was watching NFL Gameday and they showed their journymen movies, this week was Rhodes of the NY Jets. It showed Edwards moving in with his former friend. Nothing too much of Cleveland on that you know, but they said one line that just flipped me out.
It goes as follows…
Rhodes: “So we finally got you out of Cleveland.”
Edwards: “Thank you. I really appriciate it.”
It wasn’t much but it really pissed me off. I honestly think he’s going to be that kind of player; the one who will continually bash his former team to know end.
Thoughts?
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 11, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t look far to much into that statement at all. He is a douchebag, we all know that already. But, I think a lot of players would be happy to be out of Cleveland, or Tampa, or hell the Rams. Angry at: "Thank you. I really appriciate it." is a reach. It’s not like he took the Terrell Owens route, or worse: “F*** Cleveland, who wants valuable inside info?”
cant watch the game in columbus.
awesome.
f you CBS/NFL.
http://www.10tv.com/live/content/sports/2009_nfl.html
by wendigo on Oct 11, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The justin.tv link is live for you in C-bus stuck watching the Bungals.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in the office all day today. Am pissed about it. So, I’ll be following the game via DBN exclusively.
I’ll go out and predict the win today. 24-14 Brownies.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
No TV coverage
Hey I live in Dayton which is apparently a Cincy market. I dont mind watching the ravens kill the bungals, but I’d rather watch Cle get the first win. Can I watch the game anywhere on the internet? Anyone know? Thanks.
Jamal Lewis gets the first carry — I guess he’s starting.
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Check that — I think Harrison might be at RB with Lewis at FB? I need to check that again.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked like Harrison was open in the flat on that third down pass. I’d need to see another replay to see how catchable the ball looked for Royal.
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I need a game feed. Anyone, please and thank you!
by Ron Jeremy All-Stars on Oct 11, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
Just in case you didn’t catch my post above
http://www.justin.tv/rko_nwo_6
It asks for a password occasionally which is ‘nwcrules’
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re welcome. The link at atdhe.net that Simmsinns looks likes a winner as well.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like the wind will play a big advantage on punts going that way.
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We’re doing well on the ground just like the Dolphins did last week.
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Are we mixing up Harrison and JLew or just running Jamal?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
While I can get away with DBN at work, I certainly cannot justify a live stream if they question. But thanks :)
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Mixing it up.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t make much sense to line up in Shotgun on third-and-short after we’ve shown a threat of running on every down.
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Cribbs needs to be feared, for nothing more than the field position advantage he gives this team. Yes he can break the occasional one, but it has to be truly demoralizing for the opposing defense to be starting on the 35-45 yard line
Foow
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice tackle by Mike Adams on that third down play. This wind is REALLY killer. Funny to see the special teams coaches both yelling.
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We’re only trying to pass on third down situations, when it’s predictable what we’re trying to do.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
One Josh Cribbs return could determine this game.
Looks really windy.
Harrison needed to catch that ball.
Rob Ryan: “I told you guys he was no Carson Palmer!”
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Beautifully downed punt! We need someone to catch the football though…Anderson’s putting these passes right on some of our guys. We need a darn non-third down pass attempt already though…
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Is Quinn wearing a blue Edwards jersye?
by Simmsinns on Oct 11, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I just saw Quinn behind Mangini in his own #10 white Browns uniform, like he is one play away from getting in the game.
If this was a game of field position, I believe we’re winning it.
Let’s go Brownies.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
They still have plenty of time. DA, I have no idea. I started Harrison, whom a lot of “experts” thought would have a decent day as well.
Because you clearly don’t want to win your fantasy football league.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the 1st time I’ve watched a live streaming feed such as this. Is it always such a cat and mouse game?
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Took a minute for me, but it loaded and is working.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If Wright goes for the ball instead, he would’ve had a pick six probably.
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How many penaly yards have they racked up already
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Do you have a direct line to Mangini?
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Responded.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Evening Dawgs
Imagine that- zero passing yards in the first half.
If we go into HT levekl I’d say that’s impressive.
Anderson is 1/8, but I think at least four or five of those incompletions could’ve been caught pretty easily.
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MoMass had just as many dropping problems in college as Braylon. So for all the people thinking he will be the next BE, he most likely will in terms of dropping at least
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a pretty terrible game. hopefully an adjustment can be made.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
I didnt post an image, though. Thats very strange.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 11, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So guys with the eyes (I don’t have bandwidth here to stream) what’s the problem?
DA is hitting them on the numbers and they’re simply not making the catch? Nothing to do with the secondary being all over the reciever?
Fairly tight coverage, but several balls have gone in and out of our receivers’ hands.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 11, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not right on the numbers. But at least several very catchable balls for an NFL receiver have been dropped.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He has hit at least 3 players in the hands for drops. Harrison had one, Stuckey had one, both were right in their hands.
Protection is an issue, as Buffalo is selling out to stop the run and sending a lot of blitzers after DA and we’ve had some trouble picking them up.
We are also getting cute with the run game, sending fake reverses and running too many counters and pulling too many linemen, IMO. By the time our guys pull, Buffalo penetrates and blows up our plays in the backfield.
Did anyone hear the announcer sounding disgusted “Not another penalty”
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed again, minus that last play.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They still give up more plays than they should, but at least now they are attacking and getting after it. Last year it was wait,wait,wait,wait. I’d rather lose by being aggressive.
There’s nothing more frustrating than not getting any pressure on the QB.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Trent Edwards has the threats to go down the field in Terrell Owens and Lee Evans but has been unsuccessful in getting them the ball. His best throws are usually to the running backs.
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No announcer, Royal is not a very good receiver.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
could these announcers be bigger bills fans?
by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he leads the team in catches after MoMass
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yea its ridiculous when a team has more drops than catches
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I get a briefest of descriptions beyond “he sucks”?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Royal ran a long route down the left side of the field. He had his man beat, the safety was covering high. Edwards put it right in his hands and Royal dropped it. I don’t remember the exact yardage but it would have been a lot.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Gave me heart-burn just reading about it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what they buying is all about. It has asked me for a code today but it was just ‘nwcrules’
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I lost it too
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Didn’t they guys from Gang Green say that they are banged up and have a young OL
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
they have 2 rookies at the line and the rest aren’t very good
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t want wood over mack, I just didn’t want to give up a lot in order to get mack over wood. And neither have been anything to brag about
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They didnt have much of a choice. He said he was done playing for them.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 11, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston and LA has scored more than the browns and bills
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
Well, Robiskie is in. He tackled the guy that picked the ball.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions
It’s easy to say that when it doesn’t work. You’ve gotta get pressure on the QB from time to time though.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to revive the play where we put a WR (Cribbs) in motion towards our line and have him block down on the DE, while Joe Thomas and/or Steinbach pull out to the left to lead block.
This up the middle running game when everyone knows we are running up the middle is not going to work with our personnel.
They seem to run well to the left but don’t like to for some reason.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
DA had one bad pass way down field that got picked. This was in the 3rd quarter.
Other than that he has had quite a few passes on target that have gone in and out of receivers hands (MoMass, Harrison, Royal).
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened with that guy running backwards? I lost my stream.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 11, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
sigh…im so sick of thsi cat and mouse game of finding a stream.
i just want the baltimore/cincy game to be over so we can see the last 3 minutes of the browns..at least i hope thats how it works…
I’ve still got audio from the newworld stream. I agree though, I wish you could buy a Sunday ticket type package online somewhere.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Video just popped back up for me.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here. I’m holding out hope.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s silly you can’t watch for free anyway. It’s free over the air if you live in the local market. These companies need to realize we will watch online and throw some commercials up!
i’m extremely surprised no one has thought of that yet
by notthatnoise on Oct 11, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Never under estimate corporate greed. Sometimes total money isn’t even the issue, its the principal that we are getting anything for free that angers the CEOs.
gods I hate the loathesome greedy little hustlers. Go see Capitalism: A Love Story
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it would work much better for live events than serial shows, the likes of which Hulu shows. Most people aren’t going to record a live show and watch it later so it doesn’t much matter if it ends up online for the masses to download after its original air date.
I really think they would make money, not lose it from pirating if they put it online with ads.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bills punt. No return, downed at the 48.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, Zastudil with two punts downed at the one today.
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why is trusnik playing on defense?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
quinn went 6/8 with an int as was pulled.
DA has gone 2/13 with an int and was still in there.
and buff’s defense is way worse.
I don’t think the numbers tell the whole story there. I’m not Anderson apologist. I’ve watched both games referenced and Quinn looked impotent. The receiving corp. has let Anderson down sorely.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I was on it since draft day, as a sleeper, of course. I only played him as the flex option this week because Ricky Williams was playing the Jets, Buckhalter is out (and playing NE anyway), Roy Williams is out, Hester had a bye, and I didn’t think Breaston was healthy.
Calvin Johnson getting hurt didn’t help me, and neither did Eli actually suiting up.
Time for Joshua Cribbs to start channeling Bobby Mitchell
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
just popping in….is the weather bad? or is derek anderson totally sucking
by Wil Cantrell on Oct 11, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
got it, windy for anderson but not so much for edwards?
by Wil Cantrell on Oct 11, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Same wind. Edwards’ guys got the special bull semen on their gloves though. Less drops.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
why must the browns be so predictable? If you get 2 10 yard runs in a row don’t run the same play, go for the damn play action
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
Actually with the field position we’ve had all day this is embarrassing. Pinned them inside the 10 again.
they need to wrap tape around these WR’s gloves
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
remember that game against buffalo in 2007 – the one in, oh, about a FOOT of snow. DA threw for 137 yards then. yeah.
Look, I am all for protecting the QBs in the NFL, but that is an utterly bullshit call. He was hit while the ball was in his hand/throwing it/just out. It was part of the play. He cannot, under any reasonable explanation of phyics, stop himself from hitting Edwards there.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
personal foul, inability to manipulate physics, 15 yards, automatic first down
by wendigo on Oct 11, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Bills OL is trying to give this one away.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions
I’d have to check the stat line but I don’t think our OL has been penalized today.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam need to finish on that sack. And The browns make every opposing QB look like Mike Vick
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, this feed is a bit rough but I was surprised Edwards got away from him.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a zone blitz with a lineman dropping, designed to do exactly what it did. Someone else should have been in a short zone and got to Edwards first. Kam got one handful of a 235lb quarterback with a blocker nearby, its kinda hard to finish that sack. He pushed him up into the pocket and disrupted the play.
Thanks for the explanation. I couldn’t tell how much Wimbley had of him.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, now big run to the left!
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
man the bills must be browns fans
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
I cannot believe someone is trying this hard to keep us from watching this football game.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
Comment doesn’t make sense. There would have been a lot more time on the clock if Jamal didn’t covert that third down. Now we can run the clock down and kick a FG.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 11, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
just thinking if we took the lead with more than a minute left we’d surely lose it….26 seconds works for me. i think.
by Wil Cantrell on Oct 11, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This radio feed is late. They say the side judge has him marked 6 inches short.
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
Field goal good. 23 seconds left. Browns 6 – Bills 3
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 11, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t give up a huge return
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
there were no winners in this game. Just two losers and on team with a higher score
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, I’m just glad Paul Brown isn’t alive to see this. How the mighty have fallen.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
HA! take that all you bastards who said we’d be 0-16!
by North Coast Flea on Oct 11, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
There should really be another category other than “win” for what the Browns did today.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
gotta love it when your qb goes 2-17 with a pick and you still win
by North Coast Flea on Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
Parrish single handedly gift wrapped and sent this win first class mail.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, can you have (theoretically) a NEGATIVE quarterback rating?
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 11, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Worst game ever!!!!!!!!!!!! It was hard to watch.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
so how much says BQ starts in Pitt next week?
by North Coast Flea on Oct 11, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
Quinn wont start unless DA is hurt, Quinn hasnt developed enough, or not to where he should be now according to Mangini
I don’t think he’s where he should be either, but mangini is more “wishy-washy” than John Kerry.
by North Coast Flea on Oct 11, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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