How Did James Davis Get Injured?

" Two witnesses to the incident from within the Browns organization said Davis injured his shoulder in a post-practice drill in which he was not wearing pads and the linebacker that plowed into him was. Three other NFL sources corroborated the witnesses' account."

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Wow. More questions arise about Mangini if this is true...

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its been nothing but questions and controversy since Mangina stepped foot in cleveland

by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 11, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions

If this is true, then it definitely should be addressed. I have no idea why they would ever perform a drill like this.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 11, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions

Peter King (my favorite) mentioned he will be writing about the Browns and this incident in his Tuesday column. I am curious what he has to say.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions

Your favorite???

I saw him tease the story, too. I don’t care for his writing and opinions, but King has remarkable access to players and coaches. I don’t know what to expect from the story. It’s hard to find much fault with the trades.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Sarcasm. I have let my feelings be known of King on here before.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

He is not very football savvy – just a decent reporter who likes to write about anything and everything that comes to mind.

I have a feeling that a large part of Cleveland fans will be ticked off by what he has written.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 12, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Not a bad article after all. Not a lot to disagree with.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

should we fanshot it?

by talonk on Oct 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Wasn’t there a similar story a few years ago about Ted Johnson being forced to practice by Belichick even though he was still suffering from a concussion?

For a team that might have bent the rules for safe practices, the Browns seemed to get to this point in the season with very few major injuries… Just sayin’.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 12, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions

For what it’s worth, Mangini commented on the situation:

“If something like that happened, it would never be something sanctioned by the team. I talked to the league about it and the last thing we want to do is put somebody in position to get hurt. I feel good about our position."

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions

We have quite a few strange injuries in our history since 1999: penalty flag in an eye; stepping on a football on the first play in TC; running without shoes and getting stepped on with cleats. The list goes on.

So far, this seems like a non-story except for the fact that it is the Browns and Mangini. He has attracted a lot of “non-stories” in the media (painting the mural, the $1,700 bottle of water, and now this). The only story that really matters to me is that the team is 1-4 and looked rather pathetic in the first 3 games, but has performed well in the past two weeks. (Yes- I am in the camp that a win is a win no matter the score – and reflects some type of positive performance).

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 12, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Disagree. This is a story.

If James Davis got hurt doing a stupid ass stunt at the orders of a coach, then there is going to be huge implications to this story.

Disclaimer: I am not saying this is Mangini’s fault. We have a lot more to find out.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 12, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. My fear is the media takes this and runs with it not giving us the all the facts. Then, much like the water bottle story, we never learn the real truth.

by Roger Dorn on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Sure, right now the story is that Davis got injured doing a stupid ass stunt. That is newsworthy. However, I did not see anything in the article above or the articles yesterday that the stunt was “at a coach’s order” – that is what I am referring to as a non-story, just like the overblown story of the $1,700 waterbottle.

Pretty soon we are going to need a special link on Snopes to deal with all of Mangini’s urban legends, as they are turning out to be.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Oct 13, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions