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Getting to Know the Enemy: Behind the Steel Curtain Talks About the Steelers' Defense and the Rivalry

I was pleased to be joined by Michael Bean, our Pittsburgh Steelers affiliate, who runs Behind the Steel Curtain, to preview Sunday's game. Enjoy!

Chris: "Please be as brutally honest with this question as possible. I know the past rivalry of the Browns/Steelers exists still, but heading into THIS week's game, do you really feel any more emotionally charged than you would against a more competitive team? (i.e. what is the intensity of the rivalry in 2009 as a Steelers fan)?"

Michael: "Interesting question. I'll say two things. Firstly, I'd imagine that many long time fans of the game - those who were around when the Steelers/Browns rivalry was one of the best in football - are always excited when Cleveland's next up on the schedule. I myself am not quite old enough to appreciate the true greatness and intensity of the rivalry, but my guess is that older fans don't allow current records and trends to diminish their interest in each and every game played between the two teams.  That's why their rivalries, not merely games with immediately relevant playoff implications.

Secondly, I'm personally extremely anxious for this one. It's a mix of excitement and optimism that the Steelers will continue to iron out some kinks while notching their third win in a row. But also mixed in there is the understanding that the writing could hit the wall this weekend if the Steelers struggle in the same way(s) that they have early this season - even in victory. 

This is the kind of game that the Steelers (and their fanbase) really need. Pittsburgh has struggled a bit out of the gates this year, but they're still 3-2 and have done plenty of nice things through five games. The most notable, of course, would be the improved play of the offensive line, the running game and the exponentially improved play of Ben Roethlisberger. A loss to Cleveland though - at Heinz Field no less - and it will be a lot harder to rationalize to ourselves that this team 'has it' this year. Bottom line is we're excited for this one."

Chris: "The Steelers' defense hasn't been as dominant this season. Surely this can't be due to losing just one player in Troy Polamalu, can it?"

Michael: "Well, that's the million dollar question around Steeler Nation. Football's so wonderfully fascinating in that way. It's the penultimate team sport. You lose a Kobe Bryant in basketball, you're screwed. You lose your top wide receiver, safety or running back in football and you're expected to not suffer too big a dropoff. I don't know. It's impossible to quantify just how much of a difference a super-human player like Polamalu makes. My gut tells me though that he makes all difference in the world for Dick LeBeau's defense.

If you watch and re-watch NFL games - especially in slow motion - you start to see just how much of a mental game it is. A game of cat and mouse between quarterbacks and opposing defenses. It's why quarterbacks typically don't hit their stride until later in their careers - after they've had awhile to accumulate knowledge and store it away in their memory bank. So much of what unfolds on an NFL field is decided in that 10-20 seconds in the qb's brain before and right after the ball is snapped.

When a quarterback sees Polamlu dancing around, Head & Shoulders conditioned hair glistening in the autumnal air (haha, couldn't resist), quarterbacks, even the best of them, have to process all that information in a different way than when they're staring down a guy like Tyrone Carter. Again, impossible to quantify, but I'd say that the absolute most important thing for a quarterback to have at the line of scrimmage is a clear, confident head."

Chris: "Over the past few weeks, we've seen Rashard Mendenhall take control of the running back position in Willie Parker's absence. Would you rather Mendenhall get all the carries going forward, or should Parker still see half the carries when he comes back?"

Michael: "I think it depends on who the Steelers are playing. Against physical, stout rush defenses like Baltimore or Minnesota, I'd rather Mendenhall get 15 carries to Parker's 10. But against less imposing defenses, I'd just assume the Steelers get some final value out of Parker before he most likely moves on at the end of this year. Mendenhall has shown promise the past two weeks. Enough to persuade even the most fervent doubters of our 2008 Draft Class that he can at least be serviceable in the future. I suppose then an ideal situation would be to keep getting him touches, experience, etc etc while not working him too hard.

Then again, the Steelers might be able to retain Parker by keeping his market value artificially low this year. They theoretically could do that I suppose by limiting his carries to around 5-8 touches per game. Teams might be less inclined to shell out decent money for him next spring when he becomes a free agent. Who knows, the Steelers might then be able to keep him for another couple of years for 50 cents on the dollar."

Chris: "The Browns have given up too many rushing yards to more non-mobile quarterbacks the past two weeks against Carson Palmer and Trent Edwards. Based on his stats, Ben Roethlisberger hasn't broken off many nice scrambles this season. Is this an effort by him to be more of a passing quarterback, or are defenses just doing a good job spying on him?"

Michael: "I'm running long here, but I'd answer quite simply here that Ben is maturing as a pocket passer in his 6th NFL season. That said, Ben's had some nice runs this year. They've come mostly in critical situations where the passing game has sufficiently convinced the defense that Ben is more of a threat as a pocket passer than he is scrambling. Check out some of the pictures from Pittsburgh's Week 2 loss and you'll realize that he's still more than willing to give up his body to make a play with his legs when his team is needing it most."

Chris: "I won't even ask you who you think will win this Sunday, because I know it'll be the Steelers. How close do you think the game will be?"

Michael: "I actually think the Browns have the right mental makeup heading in to this game to keep it close or win it if things break their way. To reiterate, they'll need some breaks - either multiple Big Ben interceptions, a huge play or two from Joshua Cribbs on special teams, a missed tackle in the secondary, etc etc. But as I wrote yesterday on BTSC, the Browns are 1-0 without Braylon Edwards, and they've played very tough closely contested and physical games the past two weeks.

They weren't rewarded with a win against the Bengals, and it certainly wasn't pretty last week against the Bills, but forget style points. We're talking about professional athletes chalk full of pride and ego. It's way too early in the year for guys like that to give up. And a win at Heinz puts them at 2-4 and theoretically back above water. This game's huge for Cleveland and it wouldn't surprise me if the mercurial Derek Anderson broke out of his funk and had a solid game on Sunday. It will take more than just a solid game from DA though because this one's at Heinz. I'd imagine the Browns will need to force 3 Steelers turnovers to steal a win.

Anyway, I like Cleveland's mental state heading in to this game. Not sure I love Mangini as a motivator or a game coach, but I think the players should mostly be able to get themselves up for this one after finally being rewarded last week with a W. All that said, if Pittsburgh executes and plays even their A- game, they'll win this game by 10 points."

Poll
Will the Browns prevail against the Steelers this Sunday?
Yes
173 votes
No
420 votes

593 votes | Poll has closed

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4-2 through 5 games? Someone’s either bad at math, bad at typing, or counting chickens prematurely.

Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.

by woodsmeister on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh, good catch. He must’ve been thinking ahead to next week ;) Fixed now.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, there's actually 62 people currently that think the Browns will win? hmmm

Can Quinn PLEASE start? Is he gonna get traded before ever facing the Steelers?

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

It really is amazing the transition from dominant defense to just OK that happened between last year and this year. And the only difference is the Polamalu has been out.

I really think that Steelers fans are overreacting. They are only a couple of 4th down defensive stops from being 5-0 or 4-1. I think Polamalu would have helped there.

by Cols714 on Oct 16, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

We lost Larry Foote and Darren McFadden

We thought Timmons would come in quickly and easily replace Foote, but the transition is taking longer than expected. However, Timmons is looking better vs. the run and not out of position each week.

McFadden is definitely the bigger loss. Behind Ike we had two good corners, great open field tacklers in McFadden and Gay. Now we only have one of them left, and no avid replacement yet.

Also, you losing Polamalu is not just losing some guy. He is the cornerstone of our defense. His wild, amazing talent allows LeBeau to do a lot more in his scheming. Carter is just no where as fast, athletic, or instinctive.

The big loss this week was Aaron Smith. Secretly, lots of Steelers fans are terrified not having him for the rest of the year.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by John Stephens on Oct 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You meant Bryant McFadden correct?

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 17, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry slip of my mind there

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by John Stephens on Oct 17, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i voted “yes” in the poll, even though i truly believe no.
but, why not hope? haha

by emily522 on Oct 16, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s to your optimism - even if it was a bit more optimistic before you admitted this!

I think our team could win this one….but I wouldn’t put money on it.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 16, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

fantasy football

ronnie brown’s on a bye week. do i start jamal lewis or reggie bush? both options sort of suck, since they both play great defenses. i had to get them off waivers so i had like no options. but i’m leaning toward jamal because i think he’ll give me more points. agree?

by emily522 on Oct 16, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

play Jamal because this way you are 100% in favor of him playing well.

by L Train on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamal does pretty well against the Steelers, and without Aaron Smith he should be a major player in the offense. Don’t expect a big day yard wise or with Touchdowns. The Steelers will commit heavily to run stopping and force DA to make plays.

I’d say go Jamal if 60 rushing yards and a few receptions with no touchdowns would be better than your other options.

by Phantaskippy on Oct 17, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

anybody else?

pitt did even better than balt vs the rush so far in 09. i own pierre thomas and am benching him. i would not own JL but if i did, i would get a waiver wire pick up in place of brown. lewis did well as a RAVEN vs pitt. not so well as a brown, i checked the stats. awful, really. got some tds, but nothing like he did. bush, thomas and bell are supposedly going to split carries now they are all healthy. but they said sims walker for jax was a good start last week too….

by MikeLe on Oct 17, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t bench Pierre Thomas. The Giants aren’t great against the run.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 17, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’m picking up lesean mccoy. he’ll split the carries with westbrook but… it is against the raiders.

by emily522 on Oct 17, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take in to consideration that it’s supposed to rain in Pitt tomorrow. So Jamal might get a lot of carries.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Oct 17, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn’t know that. thanks. i’m hoping he can just give me 8 points or so if he gets a ton of carries.

by emily522 on Oct 17, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Bradshaw available in your league? If so he might be worth a start.

by Simmsinns on Oct 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish he was, but no :-/

by emily522 on Oct 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell and Thomas

are healthy that kind of hurts Bush’s touches. Though i guess he could always break a screen pass for a big gain.

"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "

by Villeslgr on Oct 17, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That pic and where JLewis's 10,000 yard mostly came from...

fail, browns fans, to remember who had the single game rushing title BEFORE AP? JLew. Who did he do it against? The REPLACEMENT BROWNS. As an orig Brown aka Raven. This is the 10th Ann of the Browns returning to Cleveland. Wonder why the media (local and otherwise) ignore that? Maybe the 7 years of 10+ losses in that decade? The former browns won a Super Bowl 4 years removed from that god forsaken town. Another AFC title game last season. Record number of games in a row (due to Ike in Houston, week 2 which became ravens/texans’ bye weeks). rookie qb and coach. Still got the AFC Title Game. Vs Steelers. Last team to win 3 in a season to same team? US…as browns (to same Steelers). This expansion team version embarasses the memory and NAME, and ought to be shipped to LA. We beat them regular. We’re 5-1 in last 6 at home vs Steelers (last loss….last year’s home game). When the hell did the current Browns beat them last? I forget. This town pissed the Browns sipirt and team away and these replacements for them (and let’s face it, a POOR replacement. The 10 win season….all 10 wins were vs under .500 teams, including 2 over ravens. Look it up! Not going to win this game even if Pitt played the 5th stringers if such a thing existed.

by MikeLe on Oct 17, 2009 2:50 AM EDT reply actions  

oops

meant LOST 3 times in a season to a single team. And the qbs of Clev…a castaway of the ravens (DA 5th round pick of balt…) and QUINN! ND won it’s first bowl game in a DECADE this past winter. That means Quinn went 0-4 in bowl games. And he is a savior HAHAHA! Edwards also goit a TD..in his first game on a team that is no joke of the entire NFL.

by MikeLe on Oct 17, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

We would be completely lost without your in-depth understanding of the Browns. Can you please bless us weekly with your knowledge of Browns’ history and statistics?
We would really appreciate it…. douchebag.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Oct 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you do realize how sad it is that you spent time to troll a football blog. was the really an effective use of your time? are you proud you can make fun of a bad team? does it make you fell big and important?

by notthatnoise on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, if you want to have a discussion about football, that’s fine. But this post reks of trolling.

Please refrrain from doing that.

And in repsonse, most Browns fans want a win vs the Steelers of course, but are not expecting it. So get off your high horse. Yeah, you have a good team, we know this. It is even being run by a former Brown. Try not to screw up this good thing like your city did with the Colts.

by talonk on Oct 17, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s so weird!

by emily522 on Oct 17, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah. I’d love to see a step up like that!

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 17, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a Bengals fan...

I would love to see a Browns upset this week which, providing we beat the Texans tomorrow, would put us 2.5 games ahead of PIT.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you would.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Oct 17, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Browns-Steelers Rivalry?

I’ve been a Browns fan since the mid 60’s and as each successive loss to he Steelers occurs this rivalry becomes more and more diminished. We haven’t beaten them since 2003. Thats just plain pathetic!!! Does anyone really think it will be any different on Sunday? The Steeler fans I’ve talked to don’t consider Cleveland as their big games of the year anymore. we’ve been replaced by the Ravens in that regard. Older fans may get sentemental about this past rivalry, but I’m not one of them.

by RiverDoc56 on Oct 17, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Rivalries

In England Manchester City still think the Manchester derby with United is a major rivalry; United however see Liverpool as the derby match against the other regional (North-West) powerhouse.

Nothing in sports is cast in stone.

But then the NFL has far more balance in team strengths than soccer in England.

by LondonBrown on Oct 18, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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