Cleveland Browns vs. Pittsburgh Steelers - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 11:43 AM EDT
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Can the Cleveland Browns defeat their hated rivals, the Pittsburgh Steelers, to restore some life to the 2009-2010 season?
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-4) | WEEK 6 | PITTSBURGH STEELERS (3-2) | |||
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| Date: | October 18, 2009 | Location: | Pittsburgh, PA |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Heinz Field |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Steelers by 14 |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 38 |
| SBN Coverage: | Behind the Steel Curtain | Announcers |
Kevin Harlan, Solomon Wilcots |
Is this what can define a head coach in the city of Cleveland? Butch Davis and Romeo Crennel were plagued by their inability to beat the Steelers; heck, even Chris Palmer had a better track record than them. Now, it's Eric Mangini's time. The Browns have already lost to the Ravens and the Bengals. A loss to the Steelers would complete the clean sweep, but in a negative way.
What would a win do? Believe it or not, it throws the Browns back into the contention mix slightly, even though I should probably be restricted from even talking about contention given our start to the season. A victory over the Steelers, coupled with a Ravens loss to the Vikings today, would put the Browns just one game back of second place in the division prior to the half-way point of the season.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics heading into Week 6...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Steelers |
| Points Scored | 11.0 (30th) | 22.6 (14th) |
| Passing | 142.2 (31st) | 275.4 (4th) |
| Rushing | 106.2 (16th) | 100.4 (21st) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 248.4 (31st) | 375.8 (7th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns |
Steelers |
| Points Scored | 24.2 (23rd) | 19.6 (15th) |
| Passing | 209.8 (10th) | 219.6 (14th) |
| Rushing | 170.4 (32nd) | 71.2 (2nd) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 380.2 (29th) | 290.8 (4th) |
| CLEVELAND BROWNS | Position | PITTSBURGH STEELERS | ||
| Derek Anderson has one career start at Heinz Field. On that day, he threw three touchdowns and no picks in defeat, thanks to good field position set up by Joshua Cribbs. |
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The Browns' defense struggles against quarterbacks with a high completion percentage. Ben Roethlisberger enters this game completing 73.8% of his passes. |
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| If the Browns think for a second they can rely on the same gameplan they did a week ago against Buffalo, then they are mistaken. The key at RB today should be finding Harrison on quick passes. |
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Forget fearing "fast Willie Parker". Rashard Mendenhall has had an impressive sophomore start for the Steelers. |
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| Last week, the Browns' receivers looked lost with the number of dropped passes on display. Hopefully the chemistry between Stuckey and Anderson has grown so the offense can add another threat this week. |
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The Steelers are very comfortable with their usual trio of Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, and Heath Miller. Newcomer Mike Wallace has added another deep threat to the Steelers' arsenal. Our corners will have to stay honest when Roethlisberger buys time. |
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| The Browns' rushing attack has improved immensely the past two weeks. This is where Alex Mack's practice against Shaun Rogers should come in use against Casey Hampton. |
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| The thing to watch this week? Can one of our big linemen actually bring Roethlisberger down. I'll be sick if victory is within reach for the Browns, and I have to see Roethlisberger escape another would-be sack for a game-changing play. |
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The loss of Aaron Smith adds to the "down" season the Steelers' defense is having. With that said, I don't think a struggling offense like the Browns' will be able to capitalize on that. |
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| I expect all of our linebackers to start, but D'Qwell Jackson and Kamerion Wimbley might not be at 100%. If the Steelers get in a rhythm on the ground, we might need to see Veikune. |
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James Harrison has six sacks this year, and the Browns will have to find a way to block him. If Joe Thomas is occupied, our tight ends are lacking with Royal's finger injury and Heiden being out. |
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| Roethlisberger buys a lot of time rolling around behind the line of scrimmage. That requires a good nickel back, and I don't see Hank Poteat being able to keep up with whoever Pittsburgh decides to line up against him. |
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DB | |
Welcome back, Troy Polamalu. If Polamalu even plays anywhere close to the level he did in Week 1 against the Titans before getting injured, then look out. He instantly improves all three defensive units on the Steelers. |
| It doesn't make much sense to trade Cribbs. Why trade a player who is already a critical piece to the puzzle and an exceptional team player? |
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ST | It's tough to kick in Pittsburgh, but between Billy Cundiff and Jeff Reed, you have to give the edge to Reed. |
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I rushed the preview above a little bit because my regular Internet has not been working; I'm throwing this up via my mobile phone. I'll try to comment during the game through the phone, but if I can't, you'll know why not. The Browns played good defensively last week, but it came against a Bills team with no threat at quarterback. I think our defense will get off to a slow start. Our offense will fight back like the Lions did last week, but Pittsburgh will be able to put it away late.
FINAL PREDICTION: Pittsburgh Steelers 28, Cleveland Browns 17.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 4-1
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 57-19
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 6 as they take on the hated Pittsburgh Steelers. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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BROWNS INACTIVES
OLB Kamerion Wimbley, K Phil Dawson, TE Steve Heiden, CB Coye Francies, CB Gerard Lawson, RB Chris Jennings, G/C Billy Yates, and third QB Brett Ratliff.
Thoughts: Losing Wimbley is big, but hopefully we’ll finally get a look at Alex Hall’s potential. With Heiden out, we’re really limited at the TE position.
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And no Heiden, which means more Robert Royal. Yuck. What’s with Francies being out — I didn’t hear he was hurt.
This isn’t looking good already.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping that because Francies was never one of the EIGHTEEN players on the injury report this week, that it is only something minor, like the flu.
He was inactive last week too.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Trusnik gets the start in Wimbley’s place.
by golanbatrac on Oct 18, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
GO BROWNIES!!!!!!!!! if DA can get into a rhythm like he did against cincy, then maybe they have a chance?
last minute fantasy questions:
-i am starting roddy white, donald driver, and santonio holmes. benching bernard berrian. good idea?
-i am starting lesean mccoy over jamal lewis. agree?
well the RBs i have are deangelo williams, ronnie brown, jamal, and mccoy. i would start brown, but he’s on a bye week. after this week, i’m probably going to try to make a trade for a decent RB. i hope my WRs and my boy aaron rodgers can cover for my running game this week.
Ah, yes, bye weeks can cripple. With Brown getting his bye out of the way now though, he may be able to carry your running came after this week. Plus having D. Williams, a trade might not be absolutely necessary. But yeah, McCoy might see some garbage time carries in the second half with the potential for a blowout vs. Oakland, and he’s good.
All right Mangini, this game is the biggest game of the year for you. If you win this, you will find fan support for the rest of the year.
by Roger Dorn on Oct 18, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
they call em the “stillers” here in shittsburgh
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
haha nice choice in points
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Surrounded by Steelers fan at the ol Crystal City Sports Pub. I would love to be able to taunt them all day. And no Wimbley makes me nervous.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 18, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
In the last 3 games against Pittsburgh, Cribbs has returned 2 kick/punt returns for a TD. 2 of 3 isnt bad, lets hope he can go for it today, and defense holds their own. Offense still needs to step it up! Anyone know where I can watch it live online? Stuck in Dayton area, which is considered Cincy market, and theyre showing the damn Bengals…Thanks.
I finally get to watch a game, living in pittsburgh sucks
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
Not any worse than Cincy. They sucked longer than we have, and then all of a sudden they rise up to a decent start. And they do when Cleveland is on a ‘terrible Bengals start’, so imagine how much crap I hear when I walk into a sports bar with a DA jersey on..?
yeah but you don’t have to deal with that “city of champions” crap, but yeah at least neither of us lives in baltimore.
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be worse, all I hear down here is how great 2005 was for Cincy, and this might be their year….
I hear that every year down here, how this is the "stillers’ " year
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Pluto said today that Davis was hit by Costanzo in an after practice drill. Some coaches were present, and neither player was wearing pads.
Something is seriously wrong with this whole story in general…3 sides, his, theirs and the truth. I think there is some alternative motive here for whomever the reported this to the NFL.Yeah he was already hurt before this incident, and why the hell were they going at it no pads? I think it was a players agent, trying to start something. It’s already been said by the NFLPA that agents are telling players that they’re not dealing with Cleveland.
Pluto indicated the Browns have been forthcoming and had the coaches who were present at the event speak with the league. He also mentioned that Davis is not going to file a grievance, that it was the player’s union trying to do it.
Anyone know where I can get the online audio of this game? I’m not running around and doing the live stream like last week…
Choppy, but working, once you navigate to the Browns-Steelers link.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Their key for the game was “Any points will do”.
by golanbatrac on Oct 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
see yall after the 1st quarter, the bigger tv is in the other room
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
have ether Maiava or Veikune played anytime at OLB
by The Brown Note on Oct 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
GAME TIME BABY!!!! LETS GO BROWNS!!!!!
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 18, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
With the way we beeen playing you could get a W in the fourth quarter alone
by steelerstyle on Oct 18, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Greetings from 2 a.m. in South Korea! Doubt I’ll make it to half time, but go Browns!
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Here is the audio broadcast. Set to open in a new window. using QuickTime on my Mac, may have to have that. Can’t guarantee how long, last week, I got the last quarters no problem. I believe it is legit.
At home games, we really should start doing the LeBron-esque “MVP, MVP” chant every time D-Zast punts the ball.
by DrewskiC on Oct 18, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hey guys, checking in from barcelona, spain. this thread is great, last week i was able to watch the game by checking the links on here (although choppy, cat and mouse for sure). Anybody have a link to the stream that’s (currently) working? simmsinns, the one you listed isn’t workin for me.
LETS GO BROWNS
You listening to the radio link from above?? I’m on commercial break still.
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Take a look at your player, and make sure that the position indicator is all the way near the end of the stream
Heh, how about that, a heads up pitch by Anderson.
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Oh come on Stuckey! That was a perfect catch and run!
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Love the wildcat but.
Damn.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 18, 2009 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Stuckey keeps resulting in some negative plays…
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Cribbs should not be passing the ball two downs in a row.
Take a look at Miami, Ronnie Brown will throw once every 4 or 5 games.
His throw before that was not very good. Dumb playcalling.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad they’re trying something new, but …. We also need some WRs who can catch. I put a lot of blame on DA last week, but this week it is plainly a WR problem.
I think Cribbs should be throwing the ball…even with the pick, I say we go back to him throwing more this game. The first throw would’ve been a big gainer.
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The receiver had enough time to adjust.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Cribbs being involved in the game so much this week makes me think there was no way we were trading him
Good luck
I hope you guys dominate the Steelers today. Right now the Texans are dominating us
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
wildcat vs. trying to get some consistency out of DA?
I mean, I enjoy seeing them utilizing Cribbs in a way that suits his skills, and being somewhat effective, but we are going to have to get DA involved EVENTUALLY in this game. right?
I think getting DA’s confidence up with some red zone plays is the MUCH better call.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
http://atdhe.net/8403/watch-cleveland-browns-vs-pittsburgh-steelers
However, mine stops after a couple seconds, saying they’ve “reached the maximum amount of feeds” for my country, then it asks if i want a pay account. Has anyone ever bought one of these?
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http://www.justin.tv/pittsburghsportsonline/popout
try it out, its working for me
“the receivers are actually catching the ball for ben”
yeah, we didn’t notice that shot at the cleveland WRs there…
It’s really not a shot at Cleveland when they’re stating a fact.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s all the national anouncers do is slam on Cleveland
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
Well, lets see, our offensive plan is not working, our defense just folded in 1 drive, and knowing how Mangini loves NOT changing the game plan to the game thats actually happening, it doesnt look promising….Need to play smarter than what they are, need to quick trying to develop Cribbs into a QB and have him do the job he is paid to do. Dont forget the $5M we paid DA as a bonus for being on the Roster in Mar’09
We sure did
We live on the edge.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 18, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though you want us to lose
I still want you to win.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Oct 18, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
ooh and our O crossed the 50 on thier own
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
i remember when i was in HS at Chagrin our red zone play was basically throw it up to robi, and he made some ridiculous catches.
by notthatnoise on Oct 18, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
His right foot was clearly out.
http://dawgscooper.blogspot.com/
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We may have four drops, but the announcer said it perfectly. “Better ball placement by the QB.”
Blame the WRs all you want, but it takes 2 to play pitch and catch too.
http://dawgscooper.blogspot.com/
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we have no penalties yet and the steelers are 3/20
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
they never will, especially once favre retires for real
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Zero penalties by the Browns so far. Very disciplined.
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Here’s something funny on NFL.com:
D. Stallworth Jersey – $29.99
B. Edwards Jersey – $44.99
K.Winslow Jersey – $119.99
Granted, the Winslow jersey is authentic and the other two are replica, a little high dont you think?
Winslow has looked REALLY good in Tampa.
by gentryholdem on Oct 18, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
we should have brought back Brian Russel
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Hines Ward like I hate John Elway.
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I hate dudes that celebrate before they score.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We need cribbs to bring this one back
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Oh hells yeah!
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
We need a stud running back and an all pro quarterback
Hope this works.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
We should
open some kind of pay pal account.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
I’ve never heard an announcer investigate a non-call with such gusto.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and the bastards at the stadium play “living on a prayer”
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
The announcers need to shut up about a holding no-call.
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couldn’t even find it when he want back in the re play
by The Brown Note on Oct 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Announcers: “Blah, blah, blah, we hate Cleveland, blah, blah, blah.”
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Jesus Christ Harlan, stop being obsessed about the hold you thought you saw…
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I’ve NEVER heard that before. Please replay all the big Super Bowl plays for PIT that were aided by bad calls…
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice tackling
Let’s go d
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
The safeties should be helping the LBs in covering the Pitt TEs more.
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That was a fumble
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
what’s this? a smart challenge by a cleveland coach?
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Crap his elbow hit
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
My god, now these announcers are pissing me off.
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Which is crazy, because that was supposed to be a tight game.
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Inconclusive evidence. Dammit.
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Pick time
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
I didn’t mind the announcer gushing over Big Ben or saying the Browns receivers can’t catch. But, when this happens:
-Mid-way through our return, Kevin Harlan shouts over and over “I saw a hold!”
-On the challenge, before even seeing it, the announcers both say “oh, he was clearly down, no question about it” and “if anything, it should’ve been a facemask” (laughs)
-“The Steelers are now wearing the Browns down”
Sheesh…I almost want to win to shove it to these announcers more than I want to beat the Steelers…
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And announcers are not supposed to show any bias. HA!
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Needed that pick
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Definetly
Stepping up a little bit
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Stopped him
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Big stop
No points
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
We want this game
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Fat Thor is pumped!!
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What the f?
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
yet another game where the officials cheat the browns
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
we should really be desensitized to it
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Looked short live. Was measured short. Did I miss something?
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
That is some messed up shit. It was on TV and the refs still f’ed that up.
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I'm am so pissed right now
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Better get another one of those ready
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
It was moving
But we will get screwed again.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
okay, in regard to the measurement thing, the ONLY thing i can think of, is that, for whatever reason, the last link-thing counts. or something.
Should be overturned since the refs f*cked us on the fourth down.
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i think i have the fourth down thing figured out, the tv angle wasn’t at 90 degrees, so from an angle it looked short, but they actually got it.
by notthatnoise on Oct 18, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
7th and 10
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
we gotta take advantage of those bad throws
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
I
do both
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Why? It takes more time to type and it’s harder to read?
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry i’ll stop
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
Going back to the first-down call everyone is talking about
I’m pretty sure that a first down is determined by the end of the CHAIN, not the stick. The ball was tied with the stick, which in that case, I believe a tie goes to the offense. It was the announcers that jumped the gun and quickly said “it’s short!”
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sorry, I meant tied with the “chain”
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy holding the stick even told the radio reporter that the TIP of the FUCKING ball was A GOD DAMN LINK SHORT. He WOULD KNOW, HE WAS RIGHT FUCKING THERE….GET OFF OF PITTS DICK AND STAY OFF THE ANNOUNCERS BALLS
Stop with that language. Chris is the moderator of this site, you know.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you even realize that I’m the person who blogs for the Browns here? And how am I on the announcers balls, I said they jumped the gun, just like they’ve been horrible all game.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing I can think of on the 4th down measurment is the the camera angle wasn’t straight on. Obviously the ref is standing right above the ball and has the bette view.
here’s the silver lining, the steelers have been outscored in the second half by a wide margin this year and the gap to beat isn’t huge
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Well they only got 3 points from it so if we lose by more then it won’t matter.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
There are also a lot of variables that make it impossible to know what would have happened had it been called correctly. Hell, we might of have had a wildcat play blow up for a TD, its unlikely but you never know.
We can be pretty certain that we wouldn’t have gone 80 yards for a TD in less than one minute considering we didn’t have that much total offense in the entire first half.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys, i know we’re all pissed (i was up thread swearing like everyone else. [sorry about that, chris!]) but maybe that BS call will give us some motivation? which they really need.
i texted about this to someone who is a steelers fan and she doesn’t believe me about the BS call. i wish i could somehow get a pic of that and send it to her. but my TV that has the rewind on it isn’t the one i’m watching :-/
If mac could’ve hald on to that pick they would have come away with 0. :-(
Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.
Cribbs is wearing socks on his forearms.
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THANK YOU MASSA!!!!!!
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WOW! DA had a little touch on that TD throw!
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Anyone have audio stream on?
’We came all the way from Mehico city to see the Steelers play the Browns."
It’s amazing that DA can be so bad at times, but then have a drive like that. Drives me crazy.
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Pitt TEs are killing us. Where’s the Safety support?
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Safeties are terrible today.
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These CBS anouncers are pissin’ me off.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
Brandon McDonald just got thrown aside. He just never impresses.
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REALLY?! I didn’t see his name on the list. Was he a last second addition before the game?
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I would rather see Francies get some playing time.
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brandon mcdonald needs to be replaced next year, he’s the laziest player on the field. he just gave up on that play
agreed
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
francies was good in pre-season
obviously it’s pre-season, i get that, but sometimes i don’t understand personnel decisions on this team
why is McDonald entrenched as #2 CB? what’s he done to deserve it?
I don’t know how good Francies grasp on the whole defense is, and none of the “veterans” can play man at all on these guys.
He’s done absolutely nothing.
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He would be lucky to be a dime CB on most other teams.
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I see our d line giving up too often and that gives the wr’s way too much time and they will easily get open in a zone
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Harrison blew his blitz protection on that play.
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I think the passes are that bad.
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its embarrassing we haven't already
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He signed a multiyear contract without a gun to his head. He’s got nobody to blame but himself and his agent.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody gave him undue coercion to sign his current contract.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
After today, Cribbs could get us a 1st rnd pick.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
Cribbs is worth two No. 1 picks.
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Furrey was a DB in the Arena League and a S in St. Louis.
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woooooooo Brodney
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Finally the defense were dropping as many picks as the Browns WRs were dropping passes.
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DA…………(add your comment here)………..
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best offseason pickup?
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea right Elam has been terrible at tackling and his coverage is worse
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you kidding me? I’m on an iPhone now so I’m not about to get deep but I shouldn’t
have too. Our safeties have been getting owned all day and missing tackles. This is ridiculous
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Keep getting the ball to Massa.
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our most underrated asset
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Royal down, I bet Mangini still wishes he had Rucker now.
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is Spurgeon Wynn still available?
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Selective memory on Spurgeon Wynn here, dude.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true. Did you watch the first three games?
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. I was replying to your “couldn’t be worse” comment.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF is going on……………this is crazy…….
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Seriously, you take it, no no I insist you take it, here I dont want it, take it!
by dmbshn41 on Oct 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So, when does this series of plays appear on NFL Football Follies? And what kind of sound effects does Chris Berman make when he does the highlights on NFL PrimeTime?
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
Hopefully a choking sound, followed by a thud as he hits the floor.
by golanbatrac on Oct 18, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
"whooop"
over and over. God hes annoying
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
CAN THE COACHING STAFF PLEASE SPEND AN ENTIRE PRACTICE ON HOW TO CATCH THE FOOTBALL.
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Maybe him, but it might also be the ball placement on DA’s passes.
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If we burn more picks on WRs, we will be terrible. We need to let the guys develop and take some defense and right side of line help.
I think we need to shop for DE’s and CB’s
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Taylor Mays is gonna be a beast
love to see him in orange and brown
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Massa should have caught that. He might have been hanging out with Braylon too much before he got traded because he has dropped a good share of passes in the last two weeks. (I believe he has dropped 6 passes in 2 weeks)
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he’s still our third best player so far this year behind cribbs and zastudil
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot Rogers.
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He had his hands on it.
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What secondary?
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the middle is twinkie soft
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
for the love of christ what happened to our pass defense?
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions
This is a passing clinic that the Steelers are having today.
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imo, robiskie and momass both need to be starting. robiskie was targeted once, right? he didn’t get his feet in but the catch itself was good. nice jump catch.
With Ward tearing up the secondary, how about putting Wright on him exclusively to shut him down?
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They’ve been doing it a lot – they just finally got called on it.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I posted the bad fourth down call on youtube if you want to watch it and get pissed off again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAxsgBYFPaw
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watching that again would drive me to drink
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be the smartest thing they could do
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ROBISKIE!!! Welcome!!!
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and that is why we should target robo more
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
Announcer: “The Browns have 11 draft picks in 2010, but have to work with what they have now.”
It will be more than 11 draft picks when April 2010 rolls around. Does anyone know if teams are given a draft pick limit?
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Nope, I’d guess we end up with at least 13 picks…. maybe as many as 15.
by gentryholdem on Oct 18, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll be in good shape on draft day if the Browns have as many picks as DA.
by golanbatrac on Oct 18, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
wow I never thought I’d be happy about a delay of game
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
FU DA. I hate you. I REALLY hate you.
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He’s not that good, at all. But think of the alternative. Dear lord this game would have been even uglier.
The starting QB in 2010 is not on the roster right now.
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zac robinson. a lot of you will probably disagree but i like what i see from him. spend the first 3 rounds on linemen, then get him in the 4th.
I agree, no QB in the first round, but maybe in the second or third round.
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yup
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
c’mon shaun rogers give us a safety and a prayer
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
DA must have graduated from “terrele prior’s school of passing.” i hear the only class is the game 500.
Pryor is terrible too. He should be improving as a sophomore, but he is regressing.
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He can run the ball through, but he will not be a NFL QB.
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He’s not a Div I college QB right now.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, he’s not a Division 2 QB right now.
by gentryholdem on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Posey and Carter (Cris Carters son) can continue to get better. Too bad they have a QB that can’t get them the ball.
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It’s time for tressel to go
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 4:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why? Because he lost to Purdue? Grow up.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 18, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys
My wife is a Cleveland girl and a HUGE Browns fan, but here in Montana we aren’t getting the feed (and can’t afford Sunday ticket). Anyone know where there might be an online feed to the game?
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
thx guys
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by broncosmontana on Oct 18, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That Polamalu interception at the start summed it up for me.
by Terrible Terry Tate on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
WHERE ARE THE SAFETIES?!?
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Doing great according to Roger dorn
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is a third down stop too much to ask for?
by North Coast Flea on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
I am pretty certain that if the Browns continue to play like this, then we will all be looking for an online feed because there will be local blackouts at the end of this season.
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Fans have been showing up for live games, right?
They put up a good fight today.
by JulioBernazard on Oct 18, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
amazing they fit Favre’s ego into a stadium with Ray’s
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by BringBackKosar on Oct 18, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d rather have Cincy win this division than either the Ravens or Steelers.
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OK, so I just got here . . . can someone sum up how we lost this week?
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Oct 18, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
More drops, more bad passes, lots of fumbles, blown oopurtunities, Cribbs return a kick for a TD, Beg Ben smoked our secondary, and the refs suck.
How’s that?
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Naw the steelers earned the win but we put up a good fight
by The Licensed Pessimist on Oct 18, 2009 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh no, that means Mangini will probably trade him now.
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Wonder if we could get a first rounder.
by gentryholdem on Oct 18, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Davis, Crennel, mangidiot...diffrent coaches, same result
lose to the fucking steelers
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That’s a really sad game to be in overtime…
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By my count there were approx. 7
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