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Getting to Know the Enemy: Cincy Jungle Talks About the Improved Bengals

I was pleased to be joined by Josh Kirkendall, our Cincinnati Bengals affiliate, who run Cincy Jungle, to preview Sunday's game. Enjoy!

Chris: "I'm confused. I thought the better option for the Bengals was to get rid of Chad "Ochocinco" and keep T.J. Houshmandzadeh. Instead, they only have Ochocinco and are looking like a real good football team. Has Ochocinco's attitude improved so far this season?"

Josh: "Keeping Houshmandzadeh and letting Chad Ochocinco go was the conventional wisdom. Chad had just recorded his worst season, suffered numerous injuries and with his rambling about being traded in the offseason, we had all simply thought he was done. Chad’s attitude this past offseason was a complete, and shocking, turnaround.

He came into Training Camp in the best shape of his career. He regained his spirit and set a goal for himself to erase 2008. While the numbers don’t show it yet, his reversal includes a team-oriented mindset. When asked what his touchdown celebration could be against the Browns, he simply said, "I really haven't thought about it. Right now, my focus is just making sure we get the 'W' this week. As we continue to win, the fun will continue to creep back in." In truth, this is the best we’ve seen Chad since he’s been here."

Chris: "Cedric Benson has been a pleasant surprise in the Bengals running game. Is this something that can be attributed to him, or has the offensive line improved to provide him his opportunities?"

Josh: "You could probably say it’s a combination of both. In terms of Benson, he’s hitting the point of attack much quicker. His vision is better and he’s finishing off runs with good strength and a low center of gravity. He’s also a little deceptive. While strong on the inside, he has shown that he can burn a defense on the edges. The offensive line is improved. Four of the five starting linemen either didn’t start last year, or started at another position. They are much stronger as a rushing unit than in pass protection. Everything about this team’s rushing offense has improved after last year’s 29th ranked rushing offense."

Chris: "After year's of the Bengals defense widely being considered a joke with a lot of "busts", what has changed that the defensive unit is now playing at the top of its game?"

Josh: "Last year we said that our best offseason pickup was Mike Zimmer, the Bengals’ defensive coordinator. He came in with an iron fist and the defensive players responded favorably. Plus, we’ve acquired decent talent in the past two years, ranging from Keith Rivers, Rey Maualuga, Brandon Johnson, Chris Crocker, Roy Williams, Pat Sims, Antwan Odom and so on. This year, Zimmer wanted to focus on rushing the passer. Through three games, the Bengals lead the league with 10 quarterback sacks."

Chris: "Do you fear Derek Anderson more than Brady Quinn?"

Josh: "Oh, absolutely. We still remember 2007. After an impressive win to start the season against the Baltimore Ravens on Monday Night Football, the Bengals got caught up in the famous shootout against the Browns. Anderson threw for 328 yards passing and five touchdowns."

Chris: "Have a prediction for this Sunday?"

Josh: "I want the Bengals to dominate -- is that surprising? But the Bengals are known for falling into trap games against struggling teams. I normally would call this game close each time we play because of the instate rivalry implications. But as the years go by, I see less and less of that. As much I think we look better on paper, I’m more worried that the Bengals could struggle after coming off an emotional victory against the Pittsburgh Steelers last week.

I call it a Bengals win, but close."

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marvin lewis’s clock management during the last drive in pitt was alarming. 46 seconds left 2 timeouts and the ball on the 30+. clocks burns for a good 16 seconds after last play before he spikes it on 1st. leaving only 3 downs and 30 seconds on the clock.

it was chaos but you won. you down right limas sweed won. bens pick helped a little too. that’s 14 points. i think cleveland wins this game because the bengals are riding a false sense of security. do you think you outplayed the steelers?

by raven on Oct 3, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

of course we didnt outplay the Steelers

The Bengals had -10 yards on offense in the 1st QTR. But the Steelers couldnt get the ball in the endzone, and couldnt capitalize on their chances to put away the game. The best team dosnt always win, the team that plays the best when the game is on the line wins. So the Bengals won last week, Denver shouldnt have won the first week. It evens out. Im sure Bmore would take a win over Pitt the same way

"Ghiaciuc's play was a distraction"

by firstPick on Oct 3, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tooo funny. the bengals=the browns so much i didn’t even realize i was on the browns site. LOL. orange is orange..add the Orioles is orange.

by raven on Oct 3, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our orange is better.

If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.

by Brownie's Year on Oct 3, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no rational reason to think this, but I’m calling a Browns win this week.

by fwembt on Oct 3, 2009 2:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put this under I hope I am wrong:

31-3 Bengals

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 3, 2009 3:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gladly to accommodate you!!!

by Nuts4359 on Oct 3, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

26-13 Bengals.

by Grockcubs on Oct 3, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

28-16 BROWNS

by Nuts4359 on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I salute your courage.

by elsandito on Oct 3, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brave prediction

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 3, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You think we can score 4 touchdowns on the Bengals when Pittsburgh couldn’t?

"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx

by woodsmeister on Oct 3, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think we’ll score four touchdowns on anyone all season.

by Chemo on Oct 3, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think we’ll score four touchdowns on anyone all season.

Fixed.

by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 3, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sad, but probable.

by Simmsinns on Oct 4, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOUR TOUCHDOWNS!!

This is the week the Browns offense click with D.Anderson at the helm. Then hopefully J.Harrison gets 20-plus carries. Also by spreading the pass plays around to Mass, Cribs,and Furrey, maybe it’ll free up B.Edwards. GO BROWNS!

by Nuts4359 on Oct 4, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does anyone think that with DA in, it will provide the spark that we need to meet some of the above predictions? I look at things and say that I sure hope so, but I can’t help but feel we’re going to see much of the same tomorrow: ineptitude and poor offensive performance, only with more turnovers.

I second the idea that maybe the bengals come in high and mighty after two wins over two good teams and look lethargic against us. not to be a downer but I think that we are gonna need the bengals team to play poorly, cause I can’t see DA solving our offensive problems by himself.

by Browns town on Oct 3, 2009 10:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I agree DA is not the answer, but I’m sure they will open up the playbook for him and give him the chance they never gave Quinn.

Joey_D

by Joey_D on Oct 3, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say D.A. throws so poorly that Quinn is in before the end of the 2nd Qtr.
Not that Brady will due much better.

We will win this one on special teams and turn overs.

17-10 Browns

Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.

by doggrad87 on Oct 3, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only qb were the answer. Our defense has given up a boat load of yds and pts against offenses that are basically buttoned up and under wraps. Opposing teams haven’t had to do anything risky to score on us yet. They know we won’t score, so they play super safe. Try to imagine how far they’d run up the score on us if they took risk?

by elsandito on Oct 3, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think our defense would be more consistent if we could actually score some touchdowns on offense. Let’s face it the defense is getting worn down from our constant lack of offensive output. They both should feed off each others positives, but until our playbook evolves from backyard football we are dead in the water!

Joey_D

by Joey_D on Oct 3, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There might be potential for DA to provide a spark,
but that would call for some long passes, which would call for more time to throw,
which would call for our banged up O-line to hold up against a D that has ten sacks so far.

I’m hoping for a Browns win, but I’m not holding my breath.

by JustBob on Oct 4, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The majority of those sacks have come from Antwan Odom. They’ll have to move him around if they want sacks today — Joe Thomas isn’t going to allow one sack, let alone five.

by e.c. matter on Oct 4, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best I can do for optimism this week is to predict that the Browns will give us more positives to discuss next week than they did after the last game.

Of course, I’m hoping that DA throws for 5 TDs…..

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 3, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bench'em

I think B.McDonald shouldn’t be the only one benched on defense. D.Bowens and E.Barton should be benched too; and replaced by A.Hall and D.Veikune. Also H.Poteat need to sit. The difference between Cinn and Clev is they play their youth; clev don’t. For example, Kieth Rivers and Rey Maualuga

by Nuts4359 on Oct 3, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rivers and Maualuga being a first round pick and a high second round pick.

Veikune, though a second rounder, is transitioning from DE to Linebacker. No surprise that he’s not cracked the lineup just yet. Hall was a seventh rounder.

by e.c. matter on Oct 3, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When we’re only getting sacks off safety blitzes, I think it’s safe to maybe give youthful exuberance a shot over experienced lethargy.

I don’t think B-Mac needs a benching. He needs a safety that doesn’t bite on every play action fake giving him support.

by Michael Jay on Oct 3, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall should start, Veikune needs more PT

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 3, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McDonald didn’t get benched because he got beat. He got benched because he quit.

by e.c. matter on Oct 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

^That was supposed to be a reply to Michael Jay.

by e.c. matter on Oct 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think, actually, he got benched because he sucks.

by fwembt on Oct 3, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

30-10, Bengals.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 3, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL cincy fan, you havent had a real coach since Whacy Wyche!!

Loading snowball….aiming….oh wait too early for snow…

Browns 11-10

by Red-Right-88 on Oct 4, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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