Green Bay Packers vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
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Green Bay Packers at Cleveland Browns, Oct 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
A little over two months ago, the Cleveland Browns kicked off their preseason with a game against the Green Bay Packers. When QB Aaron Rodgers tore the Browns' defense apart, we could attribute it at the time to an "off day", and our offensive struggles could be blamed on "not wanting to show too much." At 1-5, I don't think either of those statements were true as we head into this week's contest against the Packers.
| GREEN BAY PACKERS (3-2) | WEEK 7 | CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-5) | |||
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| Date: | October 25, 2009 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Browns Stadium |
| TV: | FOX |
Favorite: | Packers by 6½ |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 43½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Acme Packing Company |
Announcers |
Ron Pitts, John Lynch |
Considering the Browns were facing a more popular team in the Green Bay Packers, I expected FOX to provide our game with a better announcing crew. I guess I shouldn't have expected that when we're up against the Vikings/Steelers game at the same time on FOX, so for the second week in a row, we get a "Z" crew for the announcing duties.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics heading into Week 7...
OFFENSE
| Category | Packers |
Browns |
| Points Scored | 26.0 (8th) | 11.5 (30th) = Push |
| Passing | 258.4 (10th) | 136.2 (31st) = Push |
| Rushing | 101.2 (19th) | 103.7 (18th) = -2 |
| Total Offense (yards) | 359.6 (10th) | 239.8 (31st) = Push |
DEFENSE
| Category | Packers |
Browns |
| Points Scored | 18.6 (9th) | 24.7 (26th) = -3 |
| Passing | 192.6 (10th) | 242.0 (23rd) = -13 |
| Rushing | 105.4 (16th) | 165.3 (30th) = +2 |
| Total Defense (yards) | 298.0 (8th) | 407.3 (32nd) = -3 |
| GREEN BAY PACKERS | Position | CLEVELAND BROWNS | ||
| Rodgers will pick us apart, perhaps more than Roethlisberger did last week, if we cannot get pressure on him early and often. |
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QB | As an outsider, it must seem absurd that Anderson's starting job seems "safe" when you look at his stats from the past two weeks. |
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| I've been surprised at the lack of carries for the backup running backs. After Ryan Grant, the next highest RB rusher has six carries. |
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RB | |
With the Browns' season-long struggles in the passing game, Jamal Lewis will likely get quite a bit of carries with better production than last week. |
| Is it somewhat of a surprise that Greg Jennings has not had a more productive season than Donald Driver at this point? |
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WR | It's Brian Robiskie's time, hopefully. When everyone else drops the ball, what excuse is there for not playing him? |
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| Left tackle Chad Clifton won't play this week, meaning rookie fourth-rounder T.J. Lang will get his first start. Starting center Jason Spitz will also miss his second straight game. |
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OL | |
Rex Hadnot returned in limited action last week, which provides the Browns with the ability to rotate more on the offensive line. |
| The Packers aren't a serious threat at getting pressure; it's hard to believe that Cullen Jenkins will beat Joe Thomas. |
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DL | Corey Williams returns to face his former team. Has he been saving his finest performance for his former team? (Doubt it) |
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| LB Clay Matthews hasn't been starting, but he had a big game last week: 5 tackles, 2 sacks, and a pass deflected. |
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LB | I'm disappointed that D'Qwell Jackson is the player we have to lose at this unit. Hopefully Kaluka Maiava or David Veikune see playing time instead of Jason Trusnik. |
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| Al Harris and Charles Woodsen might not be in their prime any more, but they are still a solid combination and will pick off Anderson often if he continues to make errant throws. | |
DB | Assuming Mangini still won't play Coye Francies, we really can't afford to bench Brandon McDonald with nobody else worthy on the roster to replace him. (Again, why'd we cut Hood?) |
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| The team's longest kick return of the season is 46 yards. Mason Crosby is 11-of-13 on kicks this season. |
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Kicker Phil Dawson probably won't play again. *sigh* At least Joshua Cribbs is always there for a highlight. |
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The Packers, statistically, are much better than the Browns are. Their defense has been suspect at times though, giving up 31 points to the Bengals and 30 points to the Vikings, both of which were losses. Green Bay was prepared for the Lions after their bye week though, destroying them 26-0 a week ago. Anderson and the offense will play one of the team's most exciting games of the season this week at home, but fall on the losing end of a shootout. Don't make fun of me for the amount of points I'm giving the Browns; it merely falls in line with the shootout prediction!
The weather today is supposed to be very pleasant though at about 59 degrees!
FINAL PREDICTION: Green Bay Packers 34, Cleveland Browns 28.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 5-1
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 67-23
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 7 as they take on the Green Bay Packers. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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I probably would have given the edge to the Packers at RB and the edge to the Browns on OL.
by Roger Dorn on Oct 25, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phil Dawson and Steve Heiden are ruled out, so they will be two of our inactives.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cleveland Browns taking on The Cleveland Browns?
Epic.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Eye…does that mean we can’t lose?
by Uriah33 on Oct 25, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re our own worst enemy?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much ignored all of the grumbling early in the off season about Mangini bringing in so many Jets players, but if we see more of Stuckey and Trusnick than Robiski and Maiava/Veikune I’m going to scream. There is no reason with the season so squarely in the toilet already to withhold playing time for our rookies. And on those grounds I would say get Francies on the field as well.
by JustBob on Oct 25, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been thinking for a while that there’s a certain schizophrenia on Magini’s part over whether to field the best team available and look for wins or at least competitiveness, or to give the whole season over to player development. Even at 1-5 I think this dissonance is there. The BQ benching might be one case of this, but there are many more examples around….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, where can one find a list of gameday active/inactive players?
by JustBob on Oct 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Browns declared TE Steve Heiden, K Phil Dawson, TE Robert Royal, CB Coye Francies, RB Chris Jennings, third QB Brett Ratliff, OL Billy Yates, and CB Gerard Lawson inactive for Week 7
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Chris. Is there a link to that info available somewhere on a regular basis?
by JustBob on Oct 25, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually check out KFFL for the latest:
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NM. I just found it on the Browns site under the News link.
by JustBob on Oct 25, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or that. KFFL usually searches all the team websites and then aggregates them together on their page.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Francies
What’s Francies’ story? Why can’t he even get activated?
by Monsters of the Midway on Oct 25, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad to see that Corey Williams is good to go. He’s been pretty good this year.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Francies again?!
Great, more Brandon McDonald…
by Bernie19Kosar on Oct 25, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more question on this. How soon before the game do the teams have to list their inactives?
by JustBob on Oct 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Green Bay Packers have declared RB Ahman Green, OT Chad Clifton, OG Evan Dietrich-Smith, DL Jarius Wynn, WR Jordy Nelson, FB Korey Hall, OT Mark Tauscher, SS Matt Giordano inactive for Week 7.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have rodgers and driver on my fantasy team, so i want them to do well. but at the same time, i obviously want the browns to win. so if rodgers could throw a few TDs and driver could make some good catches, while the browns still win… that would be nice :)
i hope we see more of robo today.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if the defense can play well and the receivers can drop less passes, they may have a chance.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
game coverage
I am in Indiana and stupid Fox is showing the Vikings game instead to the Browns game, is there anyway I can watch the game online somewhere?
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping to listen on www.wtam.com . You might try that.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will likely be blocked during the game.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazingly enough, it appears to be working so far.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awsome! thanks for the link.
Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.
by doggrad87 on Oct 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many thanks for this link, NMD. Worked for me right to the (bitter) end. Hoping to hear the postagame next, to lick some wounds.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll never turn down help through the incompetence of the opposition. But really, is this that bad? It’s probably the same field position as a Cribbs return.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he falls, cj spiller in the early 2nd round. he’s about 60% of clemson’s offense. can run and catch.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want an all Clemson backfield w/Davis and Spiller?
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m a clemson fan, so i watch a ton of games. they called the spiller-davis combination “thunder and lightening”. it was awesome. but most likely, spiller will go in the late 2nd round.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to talk so specifically about the draft before the season is over. Too much can happen between now and then, it is ridiculous. I know you love to, but don’t expect me to respond.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, sorry. i’m just thinking out loud, i guess.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
2nd and 17, Lewis runs up the middle for no gain, gotta love the call.
by Browns town on Oct 25, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NM Dawg...
Where in NM are you? I’m down in Las Cruces. Go Browns!
by Browns town on Oct 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always nice to see a fellow Browns fan so far from Ohio.
by Browns town on Oct 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Robaire Smith…a free agent brought in from Tennessee this year.”
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s pretty awful. But I’m listening to the radio feed, and one of the WTAM announcers seems drunk. Reminds me of the guys in “Major League”
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wouuld be Doug Dieken. I really like him. I miss listening to him.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha… I don’t understand how some tv guys can seem so unprepared for the games they are doing.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Too early to see we have crappy announcing yet again?
by Browns town on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safetys are really late to get into run support.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is furrey a safety or CB when he’s on defense?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone catch who is starting at ILB for DQ?
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he does seem drunk. . .JUUSSTTT a bit outside. . .lol
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just a tip- try the reply button.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(and the referee signals first down)
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/sarc
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIRST DOWN BROWNS!
worried about a challenge.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
must be different refs this week cuz that looked like a first to me
by The Brown Note on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta respect this D. If only the offense would match in their level of effort.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is there a lot of wind? crosby’s pretty reliable from 40+ yards. i’m surprised they didn’t try a FG.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They had moved the ball with ease on every play. That was there first negative play, so I wasn’t surprised they went for it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Browns got lucky, considering how that drive was going.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Estandia
Where did this guy come from????
Looks like he has nice size- 6’8" on a TE can only be a good thing.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought we picked him up when we cut Rucker.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any good? Or was Rucker so bad/ too Crennel-Savaged?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know, he may have gotten it. very close, though.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh wow i didn’t even realize they were challenging it…
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there is a good waste of a time-out lol
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Find a good livestream, but it’s about 2-3 minutes behind the live game. So my comments will be sparse. Don’t want to ruin it for myself.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that one of those where you have to have streamtorrent?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what that means. But I use TVU or Sopcast for UFC fights. So that might be an option if you can find the channel.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I can’t do that b/c I am on a Mac. Right? I feel like I tried to do that last year but couldn’t.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I think someone at the OBR watercooler posted a link to some sort of streamtorrent/sopcast site for Browns games. Maybe.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, Macs. Another thing I don’t know about.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Challenging the spot of the ball is one of the hardest things to win.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to see Gaines (TE) in there.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t see where the ball was. INCONCLUSIVE!!
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again, jamal isn’t going to do crap. is harrison out today?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Harrison had a catch on the first possesion.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok thanks. i have to do homework while i watch the game so i can’t pay a ton of attention haha.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’ll be real good in a couple years
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are our WRs actually getting open, or can DA just throw accurately today?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WIDE OPEN… and they are catching the ball, which is nice.
DA is 5/5, but only cause his one incompletion was called back for offensive PI
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are moving the ball? We are moving the ball!!!!
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Derek Anderson has taken a little bit off his throws and its paying off thus far.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eligible linemen….finally doing something creative.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goes much faster with so few incomplete passes
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the home team QB needs to cover his ears to hear the playcall, the fans should learn to shut up.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking that is what lead to the timeout.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were probably drunk and excited that we are actually moving the ball.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
none of our WRs have a TD catch this year.
prediction: DA to MoMass for a TD.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwards and MoMass both had TDs taken from them on replays.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, just sayin- they have been close before.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, just sayin- they have been close before.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i get what you mean. sadly, it’s not going to happen on this drive.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh thank god they got it back. how did he get that back?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was DA’s fault, the ball was in his hands.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I just bought access to all of the Browns’ game film from 08 and 09 at NFL.com. Maybe now I can help figure out what we aren’t doing right.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to you spending your time on this.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to you spending your time on this.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to not doing schoolwork. DBN: making procrastination easy.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree. i’m supposed to be doing ap government homework now ;)
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You show it a lot less than BQIB. No offense, BQIB.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Donnovan said it was a zone blitz with a lineman dropping in to coverage. Sounds like something DA wouldn’t see.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furey, but Harrison was wide open in the flat.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B/c I remember hearing about him struggling against Raji at the senior bowl.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t noticed… which is probably a good thing for Mack. DA’s had time and most of the runs have been off guard- usually to the side where Fraley is lined up as TE.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, wow. when it hit the side i was like… are you kidding me?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody got a radio link? JustinTV says the max for “my country” has been reached…
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“WTAM is unable to broadcast Cleveland Browns football online due to NFL restrictions.”
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering if I was the only one getting that.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s 2:40 am, I should probably go to sleep anyway…
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only thing I can figure is that if you have the livestream going before 1:00 pm, they haven’t learned how to turn it off for those people?
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or “haven’t learned how to turn it off” ;) ;)
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this is, is a statement that they can’t broadcast the video feed online.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just throwing it out there but… GO VIKINGS!
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I left GB’s defense on the bench this week in fantasy. Hoping the Browns prove it to be a good decision.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have GB defense/ST and the Browns Def/ST, I accidentally decided to play the Browns Def/ST this week, and I need a big game from them also…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
South Korea
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gam-sa-hap-nee-da
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey you win the most remote award then.
Displaced- good point.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey LondonBrown, I’m up at Cambridge right now… glad to see another fan in Britain.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Jennings isn’t sneaking up on anyone this year, meaning most targets go to Driver.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that a bomb or a break & run?
Where were our safeties/
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was Rogers scrambling and the coverage breaking down.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
break and run. Roll out, everyone was covered initially, but a TE slipped out from blocking and wsa open.
I think Pool was caught on the play action and Elam was blocked down the sideline.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit. Btw, New Mexico friends, I went to St. John’s in Santa Fe. Miss me some green chili.
Okay, enough of all that…
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by kwoog on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theyre getting old….the money stack…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
notice, not a single pass to Royal yet today…
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs to stay that way, Estandia seems to have decent hands
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Estandia dropped one last week that we could have used.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it as bad as Royal’s in the Buffalo game?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last drive he drove the length of the field… cut him some slack. He doesn’t need to score every drive.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He played a little last week, I think.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only good thing about that TD was my fantasy team needed it.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like we’re still on the ‘pound the rock on 1st and 2nd every time…’
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, that’s it. Lewis needs to retire immediately. Just come off the field and quit. There was a huge running lane off tackle, great lead block and Lewis took about 20 minutes to get to the line of scrimmage. Seroiusly, I saw that and thought 5-10 yard gain at least… 1 yard loss?!?!
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you in Dayton and watching the game? Im in Centerville and FOX is showing Pitt/Min…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A FB w/a false start? And Jamal Lewis is worthless.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anderson’s deep balls are way over or underthrown today.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remind my geriatric old brain- is RB Davis on IR?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has a shoulder injury. Some people think he got hurt during a drill where a padded linebacker was told to tackle him at full speed. There was some controversy about it.
He hurt the same shoulder in the game against Minnesota, I believe.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither player was wearing pads. The Browns were cleared of any wrongdoing.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 15? You’re behind, And you run it? Give me a break…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those idiot draw are driving me insane!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the Belichek offense all over again.
3rd and 15? Hand the ball to Metcalf.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buggeration. I was saying earlier on another thread how i quite like our 3 RB Trifecta.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could live with our Special Teams being slightly less than what they are, if it meant our offense could scored points. For this year at least…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they need to use the wildcat more on their next possession. lewis isn’t doing crap.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lewis & Harrison would be better if interchanged more- they’re supposed to be complementary backs.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they keep running like this, our D will be hurting in the 4th Quarter
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to get into the backfield. Where’s Corey?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
um…. that was a fail.
this only helps my fantasy team, though. but i still hate it.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rodgers did the same thing to them in preseason
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching, what’s the deal with this blown coverage? Twice!
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The radio announcers said we sent a blitz that time and we obviously didn’t get to the QB. That would do it.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the QB?? We didn’t the saftey blitz was so late, he was still 5 yards from the line of scrimmage when Rogers threw it right over his head.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean the blitz was so late Elam wasn’t near the line of scrimmage by the time the ball was in the air.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah 2 big TDs to the TEs….. is this salt in the wounds or what?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, confused myself, must have been so disgusted with the 19yd pass to TE Lee the play before!
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least I have Driver starting for my fantasy team. Sighs.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time to bench DA. Seriously.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes. a thousand times yes. put quinn in. like i’ve said, with a 2nd shot i think he’ll be less conservative. i bet he’ll start vs. the lions after the bye week.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are penalties the only way that we can get first downs? This is so ugly!
by Browns town on Oct 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you not find an open receiver when 7 guys are blitzing?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, i don’t have the game- how is anderson doing??
by irish1083 on Oct 25, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not today. They haven’t had a chance in the 2nd quarter.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
missing deep throws, hitting some underneath routes early.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 questions. why does jamal lewis continue to get carries? why is derek anderson playing qb and not playin craps behind a motel 6 for a living?
by VABrownsFan on Oct 25, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have no one better, and we have no one better.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly, quinn is worse than this?
by VABrownsFan on Oct 25, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say he was worse, he just hasn’t looked better this year.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m sick of anderson. who the heck was that throw to?!
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DA could easily have 3 INTs now. Yuk.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We should trade him to the Redskins for Sean Taylor.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they’re gonna score, at least throw it to Driver!
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Def should let them score right away so we get the ball back, and then all we have to do is score two TD’s and a FG and we’ll have the lead. < -Mangini Game Plan from Baltimore game, no joke….
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don’t kill me for this but uh….. put in quinn? i think he’d be less conservative on his 2nd shot.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i mean he played against 3 of the best ds in the league so…yea.
by VABrownsFan on Oct 25, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised. But I don’t think its happening. Yet.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they should put him in the 2nd half.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking after the bye. But if this game goes totally DA, it might be next week.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
starting him vs. the lions would be a good idea
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then they might have to pay him more money.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we are past that threshold already, definitely put him in.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of agree. Doesn’t make sense to just sit him there.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn can’t throw any better to receivers that can’t catch, he can’t help OL block, he can’t run the ball for the RBs, unfortunately the team is not good right now…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DA has had all day to throw, and there hasn’t been a single drop today.
DA is awful.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have video of game, but given GB defense and Capers, I can’t see our OL getting that much better in a week. The team in general is bad
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me, he’s had all day to throw the ball.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the OL is actually not bad generally and playing pretty good today. DA’s been knocked down once or twice, but is making bad reads and bad throws.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“No matter if it’s Brady or DA, and the fans are chanting ‘Brady,Brady’…2 young wide receivers getting baptized by older defensive guys…” Radio…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are they really chanting for brady? i don’t blame them, because i sure as hell am.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m two possesions away from chanting for Spurgeon Wynn.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was that bad, wasn’t it?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse. Anderson’s QB rating is now officially lower than Wynn’s was in 2000.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that if I were Doug Dieken, I would be drunk right now. I can’t imagine watching this game sober.
by tmptplayer on Oct 25, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Class penalty. Automatic first down. How to make 3 & Goal even worse.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they stick with DA, within a few weeks, I think we’ll see a big difference in the offense. Kozar has been hinting at this…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernie Kosar has been officially hired by the Cleveland Browns as a consultant. He’s worried about offense cause he says how they practice and prepare, but theyre getting no results.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know he was hired as a consultant, but am still confused as to what you are saying. He likes how they prepare or doesn’t like?
Its pretty clear we aren’t getting results.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playcalling to suit DA?
Surely Kosar resembles Quinn more.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily suiting DA, but an offense that can at least score. Word is Mangini and Daboll have made the offense playbook so confusing that it is seriously messing up everyone on offense, rookie or veteran. Tho Bernie has stated that he is NOT there to replace Daboll or anyone.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DA’s thrown 2 TDs and 7 INTs now. what’s his passer rating now? we all know quinn wasn’t that good but this is just starting to irritate me.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay scored on New England…. finally the Pats give up points. Wish we had the Pats schedule.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the last two weeks, NE has scored 80-7
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
down by 18. put in quinn. i’m sorry, but i have very little confidence that they will come back from 18 down. just put him in. i really think he will do better with his 2nd shot. not as much pressure.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t they at least look at the replay. That’s two weeks in a row under two minutes in teh half that they didn’t look at a very questionable call.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im callin it. quinn in after half time. nuttin to lose a lot to gain.
by VABrownsFan on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish this would happen, but mangini is stubborn.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t imagine why you would think this. He made the QB switch before, he will do it again. He has played young guys consistently.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just feel like he wouldn’t want to start quinn, start DA, then go back to quinn again. he’s already screwed up the QB situation enough. but, it’s just my opinion.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you expect him to be stubborn.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much Mangini’s decision is based on what’s going on off the field, and less on performance.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way guys. At least we’ll probably win 2 or 3 games this year. And we have 47 draft picks next year, NEW TEAM!
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i feel if quinn was playing like DA has been ever since he took over, he’d be benched. why does DA continue to get the chances?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They both suck.
But, one is capable of moving the ball, the other is less than capable.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn is a ND QB. ND qb’s are notarious for not being big throwers, and Quinn is just not where he should be. I hate hearing these games as much as anyone, but I couldn’t see Quinn doing anything positive. He can’t move the offense. DA isn’t doing much better, but it’s moving. All Quinn is doing is wearing the defense out when he goes 3 and out all day…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This pair is simply not interchangeable. They work different systems.
Choose your system first, then the QB (neither are great) follows.
Do you want run & vertical game or west coast short?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A college the QB has very little to do with how they play in the NFL. We’ve discussed this at length either. It is especially irrelevant now that Quinn is 3 years out of school.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And has how many games since? He’s just not that good as everyone thinks he is….
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody thinks he’s good.
The only thing anyone can say about him is that we haven’t seen enough of him to be sure.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But from what we have seen, would you seriously consider starting him on an NFL football team? What about 2nd half when your down by 18? Remember Baltimore? DA came out down by 20, had to try some things to at least have a chance, threw some INT, and everyone grilled him. Now, imagine Quinn trying to throw a deep ball, or over the middle, in fact the only ones he ever threw deep or over the middle I believe were all picked off. The team in general is not good. And I wouldn’t even attempt to try and bring Quinn back into the field in a game like this…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had my choice neither DA or Quinn would come close to starting for the Browns this season. Unfortunately, that’s all we have. And since this year is shot, we need to use the games for evaluation and development.
Quinn has sucked real bad and doesn’t look ready.
DA is absolutely a terrible QB. He will NEVER be a good QB in this league.
I’d be interested if Quinn gets some PT this week or next week, but I really don’t care.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing anyone can say about him is that we haven’t seen enough of him to be sure.
We’ll have to agree to disagree.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying that. I’m saying that is what his supporters can logically argue. Nobody is arguing that he is good.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m simply saying, that in my honest opinion, I think we’ve seen enough to determine that he’s not a very good NFL quarterback.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll also add that the same is true for Anderson, he’s not very good either. He’s just more capable of moving the ball than Quinn.
Both still suck.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I think there is a small chance he improves to be viable as a starter with good weapons around him. But right now (or at least the last time we saw him), he is really far from that.
But to those who think we need to see more to evaluate him fairly—- I think that’s a valid position.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A small chance is better than none. Sadly I think DA is officially hopeless at this point. Even though they got it back, that fumble at the goal line early today just was the last straw for me.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Oct 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And because of Quinn’s lack of abilities, the offense is completely different than with DA. nd liked stated, with DA, the ball moves
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep. look at him throw downfield. impressive
by VABrownsFan on Oct 25, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i cringed when i saw that total yards stat.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the only competitive game right now is Minnesota-Pittsburgh.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pit exposed a big secret last week to our offense and that is we are seriously prone to blitzing, and that’s what GB saw and they’re continuing to do. Blitz, pressure DA to throw, and put the money on a young receiver who continually drops the ball.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think momass has a drop today. i don’t think any of them do.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it was a secret that we can’t pass protect on the right side. Dumervil got 4 sacks against St Clair.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The right side of the line has been solid all day.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, if you are going to send a blitz against our line, which side are you choosing?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that was all I was trying to say.
How is St. Clair so inconsistent as to have given up that many sacks and opportunities in the first couple of weeks and yet played solid today?
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s really played solid for a few weeks now. He’s been overmatched every now and then, but nowhere near like weeks one and two.
Maybe it just took him a couple of weeks to adjust? I don’t really know…
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not how we’re losing this week. They’ve put next to no pressure on DA. No one has dropped the ball. Not once.
DA couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, let alone hit a receiver in stride.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GB is blitzing about every other down, sending up to 7 at one time, and when the ball was thrown to an open receiver, he bobbled it…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you might be getting wrong information about today’s game. Drops aren’t a problem today. At all. AND the receivers have got open, the blitzes are picked up. It is 100% on DA.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I’m getting something completely different from radio broadcast…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard the radio broadcasters talk about several balls thrown completely off target by DA.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a team game, but it doesn’t sound like he is doing his part.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he has 8 incompletions, I’d say at least 4 were not within 5 yards of any WR. Another 3 were broken up by coverage/INT’d. Maybe 1 drop.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t look to be. The flags are blowing, but not all that much.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t tell.
Though maybe it is effecting throws more when the team is going right to left on TV. GB didn’t throw much in the 1st quarter and DA didn’t look horrific until the 2nd quarter.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right. Rogers has been less accurate on this drive.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re definitely right. There’s a wicked cross wind at that end of the stadium. That missed FG hooked thirty yards left of the upright.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s the end that has a little opening in the stadium on the lake corner.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dawson has talked about this at length before- much harder side to kick field goals.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red zone
I’m fed up with the inability to capitalise on red zone possessions. We take a TD instead of 3 in this game and the momentum is different. Same at Pittsburgh, an early red zone opportunity that went the other way. Man up and score already.
by Terrible Terry Tate on Oct 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if the NFL could really have a London franchise.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could only hope. Then there could possibly be another team out there with as bad as luck as we have had…Then again, we’re not TEN…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Fraley been playing any guard today? We seemed to run the ball better with him in there.
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s gone in at WR/TE a few times like last week…Not sure about guard….
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounded like Hadnot was back in there at RG, at least for a little bit.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hadnot has played some, but has also been on the bench. they are rotating, which i don’t mind.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least we have an elite special teams. (minus Cundiff)
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Referee was muffled on radio broadcast, couldn’t hear
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try this:
What if we get off the QB fight, and we consider a new OFF Coordinator? We’ve had good luck with this same core group of OFF players, minus some here and there, and adding a few but there mostly veterans….Or maybe shift the playcalling to Mangini possibly? I’ve not really been impressed at all with Daboll. Rob Ryan however is worth keeping…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Daboll is terrible.
Our success game largely because of K2, Braylon, Joe J, and a younger Jamal Lewis, all of whom are gone, though.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and when you think about it, K2, Edwards, and Joe J all got screwed by a team that they bought into…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they all figured there would be changes when the new regime came in. Joe J is really the only one I feel bad about.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. He’s one guy we really could have done with.
Did hew sign for anyone and how is he doing?
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s done. The Cleveland Clinic destroyed his knee.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shame. Shame. Shame.
For what the guy gave to us.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a damn good Anderson. But much like the others, he’s long gone too. Brutally murdered by Shitty Anderson.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About got screwed on yards again like the refs did last week. Mis-spotting the ball after a penalty. how hard can it be, one ref says how many yards, another re-spots the ball. They even put little tick marks on the field so you can count them off..
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We can’t afford to have penalties. We’ll have no chance at winning any game unless we play clean football.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t afford the refs giving up add’t yardage either on penalties…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of the Browns’ control. Penalties are very much under the Browns’ control.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t called but def seen by the Browns sideline, think he might have been pulled for it.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Shaun Rodgers throws a punch? Can’t be having that at all.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a comical note
Anderson and Rodgers have the same number of completions thus far in this game.
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bringing 7 guys and not getting enough pressure.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we didn’t call timeout with the confusion.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i started brent celek over owen daniels again. i’m starting to think it wasn’t a good idea. daniels has 16 points.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
idk, but i shouldn’t be. a lot of the times celek is projected to get more points. it’s always a close call.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely starting him next week vs. buffalo though
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could start a HS roster against Buffalo…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy Lesson #7.55
Projections suck. Never start / bench players purely based on projections.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought washington’s defense was worse than 49ers defense. guess i was wrong. i’m up by 6 but d. williams, r. brown, r. white, celek, saints d, and r. gould still need to play for me. the guy i’m playing only has matt ryan, lee evans, and eagles d left.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mangini says: “We need two TDs with two 2 Point Conv, an Onsides kick and a FG and we’re in it….”
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre is playing catch on the Steelers right now, and I’m likin it…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is some bad football i dont know if i can watch anymore
by The Brown Note on Oct 25, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on yahoo, our top performer is harrison: 2 rush, 6 yards. i think this summarizes up everything.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d laugh if I weren’t busy puking.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That one must have been DA’s fault, right…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually- DA was way late with that throw and it was low so Cribbs had to go to the ground to catch it.
But the fumble was all on cribbs.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, well according to the announcing, yes. Yes it is.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought maybe he threw it to an open guy, but shouldn’t have…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, just about 2 seconds late. He hits Cribbs in stride and Cribbs may still be running.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cribbs doesn’t fumble if Anderson hits him in stride. He lost the ball coming up off of his knees.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“eric mangini isn’t happy”
neither are we.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they keep pointing out how ryan grant needs to do better. i’d take him over jamal in a millisecond.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah. That’s not a question. They are talking about the difference between the Packers and a super bowl team, not the Packers and the Browns.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is kind of a sloppy brodcast
Is this what you guys deal with all the time?
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, then yeah. Like dmbsnhn said, we get some really bad broadcasters. Though these fox ones are worse than the CBS ones, I think.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, then yeah. Like dmbsnhn said, we get some really bad broadcasters. Though these fox ones are worse than the CBS ones, I think.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate CBS's football broadcasts, especially Simms
but this has just been unprofessional
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Generally the TV guys dont send out the A-Team for our games unless the game is of great importance. We usually get the rookies or has been broadcasters….Rich Gannon, has he done a game since the Browns/Bengals and he bumbled the OT rules in front of a national audience?
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought their O-line was weak. Where are the sacks?
by NM Dawg on Oct 25, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’ve abandoned the blitz (after two long TD’s) in favor of bend but don’t break.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t even want to see our offensive leaders….
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
like i said above… harrison 2 rush, 6 yards
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad our D is still playing. If we had any semblance of an offense, we could be alright.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now all we have to do is get 3 TD’s, one of those we’ll add on a 2 Point Conv and this game is ours…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We get them after they beat up on the Bengals. Hopefully, they forget what time the game starts and we get a forfeit.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm, fantasy question this week: Brandon Jacobs or Pierre Thomas?
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs vs. Arizona
Thomas @ Miami
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Saints won’t have a lot of time of possession and when they do, they’ll be passing.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DA is 1/1 in 2nd half. Must have been some pep talk in the locker room…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another bad throw by DA… first time I’ve heard loud boo’s after a pass.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just threw one into double coverage. Looks like he hurt his hand.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not broken, but hurt enough so that quinn can get in
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s thrown the ball 3 times since. I think he is fine.
Though still missing receivers.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I was excited for a couple of minutes there.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many is that this year, 3 or 4 by him?
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but first in the last 3 or 4 weeks.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh geez, we still have another quarter to endure?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was overthrown. a bit ahead of him.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think both are correct. He underthrew one and then overthrew 2.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was an underthrown ball followed by an overthrown ball. The underthrown ball was underthrown by 15 yards.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radio call says it needed more air under it…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn’t mean that it was underthrown.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the occasional GB flag just prolongs the agony…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Might get a TD on this drive if GB keeps these flags flying…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And you all gave up on him 50+ threads up…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I gave up on him a year ago.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I gave up on him a year ago.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All we need to do is get DA a crop of huge pass catching TEs.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t, there is already another team like that, we played them last week.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wildcat was great when Miami ran it, now that everyone is doing it, not as effective. If we did it, everyone would play us like Pit, then the whole league would do it.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, are you saying Pitt has a team full of pass catching TEs? Or that teams would play us like the Steelers played us last week?
I’m confused. Nevermind.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when was their last rushing TD? since buffalo last year, right?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DA had one. but by a RB? You are right, I think.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Gaines, TE, we signed him last Tuesday cause Heiden’s knee is bothering again, Royal had Flu
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it’s 4th down, they better go for it and not kick a FG.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Indians just hired Manny Acta. I thought it would be him ever since I read an interview where he said he reads BP and picks his roster by VORP.
by gahnki on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don’t know anything about him, so i can’t make any judgments. it’s harder for me to follow the indians b/c i don’t get any games unfortunately.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
luckily the cavs are on TNT all the time
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get behind this decision. I wanted Bobby V., but it didn’t seem likely after the interview.
I’m just happy it is someone from outside the organization. And I like that he will be able to relate to Latin players.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the youth angle. Dude’s only 40. Team’s going to be quite young next year and it’s nicer to hane someone they can relate to instead of 60 year old Bobby V.
by gahnki on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A freakin’ DRAW?!? You gotta be kidding me…
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
four chances. FOUR CHANCES. starting at the ONE YARD LINE.
this is pathetic.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have radio on? …“Eric Mangini bring pride back to Cleveland footbal…”
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so I take it on 4th and one we failed. . .?
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Mass was tripped up by GB Def, but no flag
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if we can get the safety….. we just need another 9 more…. and we’re right in it.
This could be a new dawn in offensive tactics.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really surprised we didn’t shore that up yet.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the guy i’m playing has ryan grant on his team. he’s winning now.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s this, 95 yards in four plays?
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, whos worse? Our Def or Off…Can we just leave our Special teams on the field for all 4 quarters?
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d say D. Though they may have had their worst day of the season today. Not one turnover or forced punt. Wow.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh never mind after that TD.
put in quinn.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s almost worth putting in Quinn just to prove a point. But is it worth making our already terrible offense even worse?
Probably not.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone else want to throw up? that drive was 99 yards… i think we have a little over 99 yards passing.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish we had aaron rodgers. not going to lie, he’s one of my favorite qbs in the league now.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The offense is legitimately painful. Receivers can’t get off press, runningbacks are either slow or small, quarterback is generally horrible, and the line looks like they have quit.
by gahnki on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree with that. The D looks like they are a 2nd CB (where is Francies?) & an impact LOLB (easier said than done- though Clay Jnr would be nice) off being useful.
The O doesn’t know what it’s doing. Which is a disaster when you have limited talent. The Thomas/ Steinbach/ Mack axis must be wondering what they’re doing there.
by LondonBrown on Oct 25, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
want to know something sad?
we have 143 total yards. rodgers has 243 yards alone.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are we going to see matt flynn next series?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we put Quinn in now he can easily get 4 TD’s in less than 10 game minutes, and that’ll put us in the lead. It’s bad dealing with a bad team, but when fans can’t get over Quinn, really? Putting Quinn in will do nothing. And yes, nothing is just as bad as leaving DA in. If you leave DA in, then he has to play with the guys, he has to look at them, he can continue working on what to do right, and he shoulders what he did wrong. Pulling him out just shields him from the embarassment.
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not about winning this game, its about evaluating and developing Quinn.
And nothing shields DA from embarrassment of this performance.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting in Quinn will give us a better picture as to what we should do at Qb for the future. The playoffs are out of reach. Moral victories and building for the future are all we really have left.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lynch keeps harping on you guys for trying to go after Harris
And he’s right. But you’re not going to get much against Woodson or Tramon either. And your top two tight ends are out. And you shouldn’t throw screen passes down big. What’s he expect? Massaquoi is the best reciever on the Browns, they’re pretty much forced to force it to him
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the Packers going to punt today
There’s always a chance!
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about the “No punt” stat, when there is a turnover on downs?
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
but who cares about a turnover on downs when you lose 31-3?
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just saying, the “no punt” stat is not at all impressive to the fact that they had a turnover on downs.
The loss has nothing to do with the original thing you brought up.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having only one punt/turnover is almost as impressive a stat as having none
Still, no punts would have been somewhat novel
by Donald Driver on Oct 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus DA was flattened as he released
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding?? that was hardly catchable.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus H. Christ! More about the goddamned waterbottle! Where do they find these announcers?
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you don’t think quinn can do better than DA, but you think ratliff can? not trying to sound rude, but has ratliff ever even taken a snap in an actual game?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO, I don’t think Quinn can do any better. If he could have, he would have started the game. There is a reason Quinn is riding the pine….Give Ratliff the nod coach!
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just don’t see why you think ratliff will do better than either of them. and if ratliff could do better, wouldn’t he have started the game?
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is matt flynn in? with almost 9 minutes left? god, this is embarrassing.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
am I the only one who feels ashamed to call myself a fan of this current team. . .MY GOD! what happened to us. . .
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
our offense is just as bad as when we had dorsey under center.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not ashamed. I am proud to be a Browns fan.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im proud to be a browns fan. . .but idk if I would call these players browns. . .they don’t even play like they want to win
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
proud to be a fan, ashamed of this team’s performance
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been a fan for too long to be discouraged by the current mess.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Percy Harvin just returned a TD against Pit, and I sat him this week thinking it wouldnt work…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitt’s coverage units are just bad.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huge, I’m glad I started him. I figured it was a good matchup.
by rufio on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, It’s really hard not to be absolutely furious about this…I mean, no one really expected a win but just…lifeless. Head hanging, meandering around…going through the motions. I feel bad for the fans down there. So much money spent just to go down there. and for that.
No matter how many games they win, the Ravens will always be that town's second, lamer girlfriend. They used to have Art Donovan, and Johnny U, and Jim Parker. Now, they get Ray Ray. They'll always pine for their first love, until the generation that grew up on the Colts finally dies off, and all that remains are camo-clad, retarded Maryland rednecks you see outside M&T Bank Stadium today. Ravens fans today consist solely of dudes who sold you your Christmas tree.
by johnnyphoenix on Oct 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DA is awful.
Quinn is awful.
Our offense is awful.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, yeah. Put Quinn in and our offense will have a miraculous recovery. You should go watch the first 2 and half games.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put Quinn in and find out what we have.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should go watch the first 2 and half games.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s time to realize that we have nothing with either of them.
by gahnki on Oct 25, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m no Quinn supporter, but anyone who says that we have any idea what Quinn can do is being dishonest.
A first round pick should at least get more than, what, five starts to put it together.
by golanbatrac on Oct 25, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we don’t have a full idea, but we definitely have an idea, and its not a good one.
by notthatnoise on Oct 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. Look what happened with Alex Smith
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I thought perhaps you were referring to 06-07, my mistake.
by Simmsinns on Oct 25, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Reed with the worst tackling attempt in the history of the NFL. Clearly he needs to stop drinking before the game.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha, just saw it. That was atrocious.
by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 25, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the bright side Cleveland fans, the team showed up today, ON TIME!
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good thing?
No matter how many games they win, the Ravens will always be that town's second, lamer girlfriend. They used to have Art Donovan, and Johnny U, and Jim Parker. Now, they get Ray Ray. They'll always pine for their first love, until the generation that grew up on the Colts finally dies off, and all that remains are camo-clad, retarded Maryland rednecks you see outside M&T Bank Stadium today. Ravens fans today consist solely of dudes who sold you your Christmas tree.
by johnnyphoenix on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mangini is starting with the little things and improving off of those
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…I would like, every so often, for the commentators to talk about the browns a bit…like the last interception DA threw on what looked like a slant route that was waay behind. Break that down a bit…instead of just admiring the packers DB’s I know it’s nfc fox but c’mon.
No matter how many games they win, the Ravens will always be that town's second, lamer girlfriend. They used to have Art Donovan, and Johnny U, and Jim Parker. Now, they get Ray Ray. They'll always pine for their first love, until the generation that grew up on the Colts finally dies off, and all that remains are camo-clad, retarded Maryland rednecks you see outside M&T Bank Stadium today. Ravens fans today consist solely of dudes who sold you your Christmas tree.
by johnnyphoenix on Oct 25, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a part of me is glad I can’t watch this game
by Jonathan W on Oct 25, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m kinda glad it will be over sooner than the Pit/Min game and they won’t change to it…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota with the ball now, down 3 with 3:20 left.
by gentryholdem on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ratliff, Ratliff, Ratliff, Ratliff, Ratliff…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 min to go, Favre and the Min offense taking the field, down by 3, we’ve seen this before, and we all know how it ends…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everytime I see a Favre pump fake, even I look in that direction. So good he can pump fake the viewers…
by dmbshn41 on Oct 25, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now we can see what a nfl team looks like.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good, the pain is over. i can’t take away one positive from this game. it was atrocious.
by emily522 on Oct 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs