Cincinnati Bengals vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread
Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns, Oct 4, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
Whether or not we agree with Eric Mangini's decision to pull Brady Quinn for Derek Anderson, I think the change has provided some more anticipation for today's contest against the Cincinnati Bengals. Based on how the Browns have played the past three weeks, the change shouldn't mean a thing. Stranger things have happened though -- two years ago, the Browns looked like one of the worst teams in football in Week 1 under Charlie Frye, and then looked like a completely different team under Anderson. Can history repeat itself?
| CINCINNATI BENGALS (2-1) | WEEK 4 | CLEVELAND BROWNS (0-3) | |||
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| Date: | October 4, 2009 | Location: | Cleveland, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Browns Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Bengals by 6½ |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 38 |
| SBN Coverage: | Cincy Jungle | Announcers |
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If the Cleveland Browns are able to pull off the upset tonight, then all eyes should be on tonight's Chargers vs. Steelers game. A Browns victory and a Steelers loss would mean that the Browns would be ahead of the Steelers in the standings (according to tiebreaker rules). It's not something to gloat about, but it'd be a small victory at this point.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics heading into Week 4...
OFFENSE
| Category | Bengals | Browns |
| Points Scored | 20.3 (15th) | 9.7 (31st) |
| Passing | 187.3 (22nd) | 146.7 (31st) |
| Rushing | 112.3 (14th) | 71.3 (29th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 299.7 (24th) | 218.0 (32nd) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Bengals |
Browns |
| Points Scored | 18.7 (13th) | 31.7 (32nd) |
| Passing | 240.0 (19th) | 228.3 (16th) |
| Rushing | 88.7 (11th) | 184.3 (30th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 328.7 (16th) | 412.7 (30th) |
| CINCINNATI BENGALS | Position | CLEVELAND BROWNS | ||
| Carson Palmer hasn't been great this season, as he has received a lot of help from his supporting cast. He showed impressive poise late last week against the Steelers though. |
QB | I don't think we'll be seeing Brady Quinn back in action for awhile. Derek Anderson has had big games before, and we're really in need of one right about now. |
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| Cedric Benson tore the Browns apart last year, and he's been one of the league's most consistent running backs through the first three weeks. |
RB | Jerome Harrison will likely get the start after Jason Davis was placed on the injured reserve. |
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| Chad Ochocinco's team attitude has improved this year. While the team missed T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Andre Caldwell has stepped in well as the No. 2. |
WR | Braylon Edwards will be targeted early and often this week with Anderson under center. I also expect Mohamed Massaquoi to finally get some looks. | ||
| The Bengals' offensive line was criticized before the season started but have exceeded expectations. The line has excelled in the running game, but still remains behind in pass protection. |
OL | Despite the fact that our offense has struggled, we've actually shown some potential on the ground against the Vikings and Ravens, two of the league's best run defenses. The "even" rank might be generous here. |
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| Joe Thomas will have his hands full with the red-hot Antwan Odom this week. Odom should line up against Thomas on first and second downs. | DL | Could there be some changes on the Browns' defensive line? The ABJ mentions the possibility of Shaun Rogers seeing action at DE. |
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| The Bengals have rookie linebacker Rey Maualuga and second-year man Keith Rivers. The Browns have Eric Barton and David Bowens. Why do other teams play their youth while the Browns always grab the "veterans?" |
LB | The unit has been a big disappointment thus far. After improved tackling in the preseason, we've started to miss tackles leading to too many big plays. Alex Hall should be receiving more playing time. |
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| The Bengals' experience exceeds that of the Browns at this point. Former Brown Chris Crocker is a starting safety for the Bengals. Leon Hall should be matched up against Edwards. |
DB | Brandon McDonald has been "benched". Will it be for a longer period of time than Crennel's benching last season? We shall see. Word is that Mike Adams will fill in for McDonald. |
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| Quan Cosby has had some energy on punt returns, and Shayne Graham is a reliable kicker. |
ST | Joshua Cribbs hasn't had a good return the past two weeks. He doesn't need to take it to the house every time, but he's barely getting past the thirty. |
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I'm optimistic this week with Derek Anderson under center that he can re-live the magic he brought in 2007 when he took over for Charlie Frye. However, the Browns have been so abysmal the past three weeks, while the Bengals have beaten a 2-1 Packers team, the Steelers, and barely lost to an 3-0 Broncos team. If I take the Browns, I'd be taking them on hope alone, which is something I cannot do. Bengals win 24-21 after a late Palmer touchdown again.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cincinnati Bengals 24, Cleveland Browns 21.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 2-1
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 33-15
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 4 for the Battle of Ohio against the Cincinnati Bengals. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Do we get to activate anyone new to replace Davis on the roster? Or does that just fall to someone off the practice squad?
Fooootball has been beary beary good to me.
Chris is giving the Browns 21 points?
Wow!
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I really hope the Browns can score 21 points, or even just a touchdown please…
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Since we have a little time to talk before the game starts I’ve been thinking about something. How much of the Jets doing well this year is a result of what Mangini did for them when he was their head coach?
CBS just showed Mangini walking on the field and he already looks pissed off…
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Game time! I hope Mangini punched Daboll in the face a couple of times due to his bad play calling.
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Thank you.
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It’s nice to see all the players that are showing their support by wearing pink today!
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by theW0LF on Oct 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OchoCinco said he’d be wearing enough to get a fine, then double the fine and donate it to a breast cancer charity.
I read that too! Good for him!
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No fumble. BOO!
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C’mon Adams…tighter coverage. You have a bulls-eye on you today.
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I just hope Adams can do better than McDonald.
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So if we trade Quinn will you stay or follow Quinn?
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wright should be locked onto Ochocinco all day…why was Adams covering him?
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I agree. Massaquoi and Robiskie both need to be playing today. I don’t care about the special teams crap that Mangini keeps talking about that is holding Robo back. Just play him.
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It sure looks like we did!
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Oct 4, 2009 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
McDonald looks like he is the nickelback. No Poteat please…
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Big Baby block!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pardon my french and spelling but how is a field goal a win for the Bengals? He meant the Browns right?
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
March?? He’s gonna drop it outta freaking orbit.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a joke. Will be following via the thread/nfl.com
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 4, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Massaquoi starting at WR on the first play.
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You my friend have no taste in long locked QBs.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you know Lil’ Wayne says that before he sings Lollipop?
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF offense?????
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Is McDonald back? Ian Eagle just said he was back on the field on first down there.
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So after one series, McDonald is back in at CB. What’s even the point at starting Adams then?
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Nice break up by Adams on Coles!
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Someone step in front of one of Palmers passes please.
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So I’m happy MoMass is in but I hate the fact that Cribs was pulled because of coaching ineffectivness. It’s not Cribb’s fault.
It’s a combination of both, Cribbs still has a lot to learn at WR still.
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Well, of course but I saw tremendous potential.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It will take some time, but I agree with his potential. Next year when Braylon goes away, the combo of Cribbs, Massaquoi, Furrey, and Robiskie is not too bad.
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I’m not in the slightest worried about Edwards anymore. I’d actually like to see him go.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s like every game so far…
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STOP THEM ON THIRD DOWN ALREADY
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Radio Feed
Anyone have a free feed to listen to the radio?
DA will throw enough INTs/incompletes to stop the clock
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ocho Stinko would have gotten killed in the Dawg Pound
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Doubt it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides some beer again, what could’ve happened?
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 4, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to say somebody brought a shank.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Joshua Cribbs hasn’t had a good return the past two weeks. He doesn’t need to take it to the house every time, but he’s barely getting past the thirty.
Welcome back!
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nope
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow a RB screen. Where have those been the last 3 weeks?
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Maybe Daboll finally dug out the preseason playbook.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or Mangini went Tom Cable on him. :)
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Maybe Rob is coordinating both O and D. Which I support.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant watch this game, so I dont know. but the Patriots are wearing pink gloves. pretty cool.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey the Longest Yard is on TBS! I think some Bengals players might have used to play for Mean Machine.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
I feel like the Red Raiders ARE the Mean Machine.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont like T-Tech, I just think that guy looks scary.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the cushion that the CB is giving whoever the WR is opposite of Braylon. I would make an adjustment and start throwing that way.
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We absolutely suck.
Doesn’t change the fact that they called a play dead earlier when the Browns recovered a fumble.
Benson’s forward progress was stopped before the fumble. If you didn’t see that then you’re just being biased.
The idea of giving a Ref the ability to call a play dead as Forward Progress is biased.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it does. Calling the play dead on Forward Progress is all about when the ref feels it necissary. It can be called bias.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This proves the paying off theory of mine.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saying that was a legitimate recovery.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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Get ready for some Anderson gun-slinging into triple coverage now.
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Which means it’s time to throw picks…ugh…
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If the picks start flying then I don’t doubt it.
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Good move.
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You start every single defense that plays the Browns. I’ve noticed this.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Win Win
That’s a win win situation- either your fantasy team rocks, or the Browns win (in which case a fantasy loss seems completely insubstantial). Or even better, Cribbs scores 4 KO/Punt TD’s, and the offense doesn’t even need to score for the Browns to win.
What are you gonna do now Mangini?
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“I feel Chris Jennings did some good things…”
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
HA
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He says that about everyone. “He did some good things. I like him”.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry but Harrison up the middle doesn’t work. Bring in Jennings for that.
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All right! Nice catch by the rookie MoMass.
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About f—-ing time!! Massaquoi!!
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by theW0LF on Oct 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I cant find one
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No one in Ohio is streaming. Damn rat bastards.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Now THAT’S when you run a QB sneak on third and one, not first and ten.
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Mike Furrey’s awareness on third downs hasn’t been as good as I had hoped.
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Robiskie as the slot WR might help, but oh yeah…Mangini doesn’t like him anymore. BS.
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DA hasn’t been much better so far…still no TDs…
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His confidence in the pocket has been oodles better than Quinn’s.
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Adjustments that need to be made are still not being made during games.
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By not throwing into tight coverage. I posted a comment earlier and if you watch the CB that is on the WR opposite of Braylon, they are giving up 7 yards right off the bat.
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Bring in Massaquoi and Robiskie then.
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Quinn: How yah doing Big Jam?
Lewis: Big Jam gonna take it to the house!
Q: …We’re on the sideline.
L: … I’m taking bout the crazy house! Big Jam gone CRAZY!
Q: Myoplex would help our receivers catch better…
Bernie would make this so much funnier but I’m working on what I have.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Rob Ryan is a fat pirate.
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For his age, he has amazing hair. Polamalu would be jealous.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
booo
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They just showed that fumble return on TV. Looked legit to me.
HOLD ON TO THE DAMN BALL JERRY HARRISON!
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
Alright, I’m predicting POINTS on this drive.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
Come on… be realistic. lol
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The Browns will get points if they keep throwing it to Massaquoi.
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What do you know…throw the ball to Massaquoi!
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That’s funny!
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Massaquoi can, and Robiskie might be able to catch too, but Mangini hates Robo.
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Because he doesn’t play him on an offense that needs all the help it can get no matter what.
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Maybe he’s just not that good. Manigni isn’t dumb enough to not play a good player because he “hates” them. Coaches will play whoever helps them win games.
When no one but Massaquoi can catch passes, then maybe it time to give Robo his shot.
He can’t be any worse than what’s happening on the offense right now.
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Royal should NOT be the starter. Where’s Heiden? And Rucker should have never been released. Dumb move Mangini.
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Ugh…another drop, this time from Royal.
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A Royal drop shouldn’t surprise anyone.
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HAHA C’mon. He’s not that bad. Big target with ‘hands’.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
stone hands
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I think that would’ve been a 57 yarder. And Cundiff is horrible beyond 40 yards.
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I think that would’ve been a 57 yarder. And Cundiff is horrible beyond 40 yards..
Fixed.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Weren’t we on the 40? 47 yrder.
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by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
NM Im drunk. 57 NM
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by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Pool can catch! Put him in on offense! Nice INT!
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Wow, talk about an unnecessary shot by Palmer. I thought he knew that driving it methodically against us was easy to do?
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Run up the middle on second and long…dumb.
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I would rather have Ratliff in the game right now. DA is 3/11 for 61 yards. Horrible.
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A shame the screen to Cribbs couldn’t connect; he had three blockers in front of him.
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In all reality, I’ve completely blocked that out of my mind.
That was not a happy time.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 4, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe our D should play on offense for a drive to see if they can score…
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That’s because they didn’t run him right up the middle.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by Brownie's Year on Oct 4, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So it’s third and two…I’m thinking Harrison up the middle……
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