Cleveland Browns vs. Chicago Bears - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 10:45 AM EST
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Cleveland Browns at Chicago Bears, Nov 1, 2009 1:00 PM EST
The anticipation for a Browns game is close to reaching a new point. Even with the underdog teams of the past, you at least had a feeling that the Browns could pull off an "upset special." With the Bears coming off a 45-10 loss to the Bengals though, an "upset" isn't even crossing my mind. Why? We can't even score a touchdown if it doesn't involve special teams.
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-6) | WEEK 8 | CHICAGO BEARS (3-3) | |||
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| Date: | November 1, 2009 | Location: | Chicago, IL |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Soldier Field |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Bears by 13½ |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 40½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Windy City Gridiron |
Announcers |
Kevin Harlan, Solomon Wilcots |
After this week, the Browns will head into their bye week before returning November 16 on Monday Night Football against the Baltimore Ravens. Assuming Anderson struggles again this week, I hope we get to see Brady Quinn the rest of the season.
Let's start off this week's preview with the overall team statistics heading into Week 8...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns |
Bears |
| Points Scored | 10.3 (30th) = Push | 21.5 (20th) |
| Passing | 128.3 (31st) = Push | 231.5 (16th) |
| Rushing | 97.1 (24th) = -6 | 80.7 (29th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 225.4 (31st) = Push | 312.2 (21st) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns |
Bears |
| Points Scored | 25.6 (27th) = -1 | 24.0 (22nd) |
| Passing | 244.3 (24th) = -1 | 220.3 (16th) |
| Rushing | 170.6 (31st) = -1 | 109.5 (18th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 414.9 (32nd) = Push | 329.8 (16th) |
| CLEVELAND BROWNS | Position | CHICAGO BEARS | ||
| To make light of a situation, I would still take Derek Anderson over Trent Edwards as a starting quarterback. Har har. |
QB |  |
Jay Cutler might not have been able to pull the Bears above mediocrity, but he's far and above better than the Browns' quarterbacks. |
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| Now the new regime is saying Jerome Harrison needs to work on his blocking. Just let him run the ball instead then? |
RB | |
The ground game is struggling, but they have their running back of the future in second-year man Matt Forte. |
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| Rookie Brian Robiskie was drafted in the second round and has 1 catch for 23 yards and 0 touchdowns. |
WR | |
Rookie Johnny Knox was drafted in the fifth round and has 21 catches for 266 yards and 3 touchdowns. |
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| If Anderson was struggling because he had only two seconds to throw every play, we could make excuses for him. He's having plenty of time. |
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OL | The Bears' offensive line has been a disappointment this season, although Cutler has gotten rid of the ball before taking would-be sacks. |
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| For all of that bulk and experience we have on the defensive line, the unit isn't getting the job done. |
DL | |
DT Tommie Harris, missing last week when Carson Palmer had a field day, returns this week to the starting lineup. |
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| I'll have most of my attention focused on Kaluka Maiava this week to see how he improves over last week. More of David Veikune and Alex Hall still, please. |
LB | |
It's pretty bad for our linebacker unit when the Bears lose both of their top inside linebackers, including Brian Urlacher, and are still ranked higher here. |
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| I'm still confident in Eric Wright, but the rest of the secondary hasn't had a chance to shine due to other areas of the defense falling apart again. |
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DB | |
Charles Tillman was burned last week by Chad Ochocinco. We don't have a receiver right now who can burn anybody. |
| The return of Phil Dawson could come this week, which means we can finally attempt some longer field goals. |
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ST | The Bears have dangerous return men and a solid kicking game; this one could really be close to "even." |
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Creativity on offense. That's the only way I see the Browns having any chance of pulling off an upset. If the coaching staff says they should be using Cribbs more, then use him. I don't have faith in Brian Daboll to pour creativity into this game if he hasn't done it all season. Cutler will find the Browns' defense much easier to pick apart than the Bengals last week.
FINAL PREDICTION: Chicago Bears 27, Cleveland Browns 10.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 6-1
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 77-26
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 8 as they take on the Chicago Bears. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Has Veikune played ONCE on defense?
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And just think Shady McCoy went after all of our second round picks. I was yelling at the TV to take the guy. Veikune was taken at 52, McCoy at 53. Just crazy.
by Grockcubs on Nov 1, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a third round corner taken by the Jaguars that has looked like a future pro-bowler. I wish we could draft well
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we coulddraftdo anthing well
Fixed.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Let’s give up on our picks after 7 games.
Stop complaining just for the sake of complaining.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not giving up on them, but its not good when you havent played on snap on an awful team
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goodness gracious Brad, is there anything that is not off limits for you. I wanted the Browns to draft McCoy who plays and is doing decent. Veikune can’t even get on the field so you think just maybe McCoy could help our team.
Not complaining, just stating my opinion and I am sure I am not far off on the assessment. But of course how could I ever go against the so called grain here and ever offer my take on the draft because it is obvious I don’t know shit.
Just please tell me that Veikune will produce soon like McCoy is.
by Grockcubs on Nov 1, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
14 point dog on the road, a must win for the Bears. 31-6.
After the bye week Quinn will finish the season, bonus averted.
by Grockcubs on Nov 1, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
After the bye week Quinn will finish the season, bonus averted.
we can only hope!
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hallucinogenic drugs 1 – golanbatrac 0
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Man, I’ll probably lose consciousness from shock if I see our team score 31 points today.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 1, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris – i see you were much more conservative on our point total this week. way to learn from your mistakes!
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Favorite: Packers by 13½
That sounds about right.
Is this the whale section?
by sarcasmdave on Nov 1, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I fixed it now. Trying to pull up all the team stats and then odds numbers in different browser windows, I’m bound to forget to change something in the template!
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think our defense has a chance to shine in this game. Other then the Bills game this is the most winnable game on our schedule so far. I like the Browns to win 20-13
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be suprised if,the Browns come within 3 points of winning this game.
by bears rock on Nov 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
31-28 Bears but it could go the other way.The reason I’m so confident is because we are playing at home and the Bears are pretty good at home.
by bears rock on Nov 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol, 31-28 Bears doesn’t really warrant a “the reason I’m so confident” deceleration ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Chris’ prediction in this one. I’d go 23-6, Bears.
by Western Reserve on Nov 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“CHRIS’ OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 77-26”
when i saw that, i thought it was the prediction for the game’s score for a second. i was like… whoa, i know this team is bad but giving up 11 TDs?! lol.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i go 31-6 bears. DA throws at least 2 INTs.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll predict 34-10 Bears. DA has a good day, 1 TD / 1 INT / 1 fumble, 12 completions.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 1, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You rock. I, OTOH, failed to properly think the worst of DA.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 1, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fantasy question… should i pick up shonn greene or chris wells? and should i drop felix jones, or keep him in case he bounces back?
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Greene. Rookie QB. Quality Line. Injured Leon Washington. He won’t get a lot of carries, but he’s likely to get a lot of the touches on the goal line.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GAMEDAY INACTIVES
Browns declared RB Jerome Harrison, K Billy Cundiff, RB Chris Jennings, DB Anthony Madison, TE Greg Estandia, TE Robert Royal, DB Gerard Lawson, and OL Billy Yates inactive for Sunday’s tilt against the Bears.
Lots of surprises with today’s inactive list.
Harrison inactive? Jennings also inactive? I think we might actually be in for a dose of Cribbs at RB today, since J. Lewis is the only “pure” RB position player active.
Interesting that Brett Ratliff is NOT on the inactive list. Could that mean we play on using him before the fourth quarter?
Cundiff is inactive, so Dawson is back and will kick the whole game.
Royal and Estandia are out, but Steve Heiden is back.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that’s weird about harrison. and at this point, i rather see ratliff than anderson! and i’m glad dawson is back. heiden caught a TD this year i think, so happy to see him back too.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LINEUP CHANGES
The OBR reports the following changes in the starting lineup:
-David Bowens will start at ILB instead of Kaluka Maiva
-Jason Trusnik will start at OLB instead of David Bowens
-Mike Adams will start at S instead of Brodney Pool
-Rex Hadnot will start at RG instead of Floyd Womack
-Steve Heiden will start at TE instead of Robert Royal
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord. Is it desperation time or shake shit up time?
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we benching a rookie? Why are we benching Pool?
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess with Pool is that its something about his ability to be in the right spot/read an offense/something mental. Because physically he has about all you could ask for in a safety.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sportsline says Maiva got fined and benched for the game.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maiava
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We bench a LB for a late hit, but we keep running DA out there?
How does this make any sense?
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beats me.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HARRISON CHANGE
I got the inactive list from RotoWorld at first, but that appears to be inaccurate now. The OBR indicates that HARRISON is active, while RATLIFF is inactive. That would seem to make much more sense.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully. Our only chance of winning involves some long runs by Harrison.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that just didn’t seem right at all. however, i’d still like to see a little bit of cribbs at rb. why not? i think he’s more suited to that than wr.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how you think the announcing is going to be today?
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we’ll find out if Wilcotts is a Pittsburgh homer or a Browns/Mangini hater.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
harlan and wilcotts. awful, at best. get ready to hear cutler getting slurped all day. and i’m sure they’ll rave about hester while saying little about cribbs.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can DA not totally screw up today? great stats, btw. :-/
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cribbs is number four in the league, but number one in our hearts
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
my first ever gamethread post…ZASTUDIL!!!
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 1, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They should have him coach up McDonald.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave shows that he is indeed an elite punter, even doing the last resort move for a punter successfully.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My god, Brady Quinn is just so freaking terrible, gah!
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I saw someone stating a similar truth about DA, so I thought maybe this was just a thread for stating random facts about our QBs.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha. i still think that given a second chance, BQ may do better.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Might be able to fill the entire thread with that one.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we having any sort of a jet sweep fake on the wildcat plays?
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we’ve ran one like that yet, if my memory serves correct. Which is disappointing, considering it seems to be the most effective Wildcat play. Having the O-line:
TE – G – C – G – T – T – TE
is also vital, but I’m not sure we’re doing that either.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can effectively run the wildcat without the unbalanced line. You can block from that formation just like any other.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree, when you pull the guard and you have at least one talented and athletic tackle (i.e. Jake Long, or Joe Thomas?), you end with really good blocking often down field.
I’m very confident in saying that is one of the primary reason Miami can run it effectively.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its another wrinkle to throw in. Every wrinkle you can effectively run helps your chances and makes the opposing team study more. You can run it effectively either way, but different plays happen to be more effective with the unbalanced line.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I loved his huge windup and then throw below the waist to big TE that just turned around and is no more than 5 yards away from him.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but 1-3 is very similar as 1-4, if we’re using that as evidence of something.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It actually looked like he was surprised that the ball was tipped. Even though he was looking right at the defender as he approached.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DA needs to go. i could have made better throws than those, and i’m no good.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If this trend continues (the three and outs), I unfortunately see our defense folding first.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so, the bears aren’t that good, either, huh?
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ya baby cutler hasn’t been sacked much this year
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we’re in for a big dose of Zastudil again today. It’s such a shame that he’s a leading candidate for our MVP.
by Browns town on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3 n out, 3 n out, 3 n out, 3 n out……….this could be a long game
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The win, I’ll take. The pain of watching the game I could do without.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would give us a good chance to win.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver’s punter just got a punt right between Ed Reed’s arms. He had his hands together and the punter got it though that little triangle of space between Reed’s shoulders.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i’m really excited for it. i like aaron rodgers, so i hope GB can get the win.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will. Only 1 game I want to watch more than that one is the Browns.
by Browns town on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, defense is looking good so far, so that’s a positive.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So Mike Adams starting at safety…is Pool done in Cleveland? Do we have hope of drafting Berry?
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hahah i like that play on d ryan has some good stuff
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
five punts in half a quarter. on pace for 40 punts?
by DrewskiC on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Eagles up 13-0 on the Giants already.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
like brad said, at least the defense is doing well.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone that criticizes our defense is too harsh.
Sure they’re not top level talent, but they go out tryna do their job.
They just wear down that’s all. Gotta thank DA for that.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if they had 1/2 an offense, i think the D’s ranking would be much better.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
challenging if it’s a fumble or incomplete pass, right?
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they “overturn” this, and it is a “forward pass” then they have to call a penalty for intentional grounding. BUT you can’t add a penalty to the play.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
your right it should have been intentional grounding
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right. If that was a pass then it should have been grounding. So the Browns got screwed.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They broke their rule book on that one.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What a horrible overturn; the pass itself was a lateral it seemed.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Even if his hand goes forward, than it is an INTENTIONAL GROUNDING. But you can’t add a penalty from a replay. Paradox.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. In this case, though, there was no penalty if it wasn’t a pass, so by calling it a pass then they should be able to call a penalty after the review.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone given up more qb rush yards than us this year?
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RT and RG? They couldn’t get the numbers?
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, they didn’t bend or break this time. That three is the result of some poor officiating.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
boo that they got points, but good for my fantasy team.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How can we be getting so much better pressure this week than last week, when the Packers’ o-line was supposed to be no better?
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the interception return more than doubled our total yards.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf????
GET DA OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
omg, what kind of a throw was that??? please put brady in.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you, DA sucks he shouldn’t be getting snaps.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I never stated I liked DA, fucking ever.
Actually, it’s been quite the opposite.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
idk how mangini can still be sticking with him. i’m sure they are passed 70% snaps. just put quinn in.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We’d be more effective running the wildcat literally FULL TIME.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anything to keep the ball out of DA’s hands
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a youtube video of Miami and the Wildcat with a balanced line, but youtube isn’t working for me for some season.
They definitely did originate it with the unbalanced line, though.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see. Perhaps it is less vital than I thought. I still think it can help to have that much power blocking down field on one side.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely. I replied above with the fact that it is something else the defenders have to study for and react to. It was very useful for us in 2007 (not in the wildcat, but still).
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a way that I can get this on internet radio? (glutton for punishment)
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about for free, but NFL.com lets you purchace live radio broadcasts weekly and I don’t think its too absurd a price.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
World Bible Translation Center? OK, I know that this team will only win by divine intervention but . . .
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that link works, click on the listen to live link and it will open your media player, click play.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that it would make any difference when you have a stale offense, and a coordinator who doesn’t know the end zone from his elbow, should out Quinn in. That way everyone will truly see how out of control this team is. Mangini’s system seriously needs work.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
good game so far are offenses can’t play for Shit
by bears rock on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
At least the defense s semi – good.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the offense can’t even rebound from being down 6-0.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler is showing why I’m not very fond of him.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why are they even putting receivers out on the field? There is no threat of throwing to them.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
when they said “bq” i was like OMG HE’S IN?!?!?! dammit.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the defense even talks to DA during the week.
I wouldn’t.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brian Daboll
I really hate this guy. Everytime I see this guy on the sideline with his baseball hat and goatee, I get this uncontrollable sense of anger, that thankfully is averted when I see Rob Ryan’s silver locks. (As I quickly do once shortly after a couple of Daboll plays.)
by Terrible Terry Tate on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its a handle bar mustache thank you.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BQ will start next week obviously. Theres no bonus.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i hope you’re right. i can’t watch DA anymore.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve already seen the bye week joke thank you.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought our bye week was in 2 weeks
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next week. Come back and play Monday night.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why is mangini so set on DA? “absolutely not” on quinn. wtf!
i agree with what the announcer jut said about quinn, though.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If DA keeps this up and Quinn or Ratliff is not in after the bye week, I know I’ll cry.
by Browns town on Nov 1, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so DA has not trade value now if we put Quinn in and he does bad we might lose any value he has as well maybe we just keep DA in so Quinn doesn’t lose value
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ding Ding Ding. WE HAVE A WINNER. Bottom line is our team sucks. We are essentially a franchise squad after 3 years of Romeo and Savage. They bet the farm on crap and they got crap.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at the beginning of the season my fantasy team was “we will win with quinn”. needless to say, i changed it.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Y’know, for some reason I thought of you when I saw that sign, emily. :)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 1, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the girls and missed the sign.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why, he has more yards than the entire team, thats called production. would you rather see harrison make a 25yd run and then fumble it?
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather not see Jamal fumble it in the backfield before going anywhere.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because he’s the only one who’s run the ball so far.
And I can’t believe you would complain about Harrison fumbling after Lewis just fumbled.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. Lewis had it then it got knocked out by the defense.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we are a joke. seriously, clean it up guys.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamal! DA!
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chicago’s defensive line is far worse than ours. A grandfather could run on these guys.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don’t know if i can take this much more
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lerner must be giving bonuses for every turnover.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Orton is getting knocked around by Baltimore.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If the front office doesn’t want to play Quinn because of the bonus, fine. Why can’t we see Ratliff? Can he be any worse?
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DA’s 40.8 qb rating would say no.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason he hasn’t played. Same reason NYJ let him go for free
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i’d welcome ratliff with open arms if it meant DA was done.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
problem is… ratliff is inactive today.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How does a 3rd string QB get hurt? Carrying too many clipboards?
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3rd sting QBs are almost always inactive. You can activate them in the “emercency” situation that both your #1 and #2 get hurt. For that reason, you almost always deactivate them to allow someone who can play ST to be active.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not hurt. Third string QB’s are always inactive — the can only play if the first 2 QB’s get hurt unless its the fourth quarter.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All third string QB’s are inactive. If they bring him in prior to the fourth quarter, the number one and two QBs become ineligible for the remainder of the game.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does everyone remember the end of last year when Dorsey and Gradkowski and Bartel were taking shots left and right, 3-4 INT a game??? Thats what youll get with Ratliff. He has no decision making skills, no arm, no pocket presence.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Ratliff will be any better, but you gotta admit DA is playing that poorly right now.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All-Time, historically bad. One of the worst seasons by a quarterback since the merger.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldnt agree more. DA is playing horrible ball, and Quinn has shown in the past that he wasnt much better being as he was removed. I blame the coaches and front office whole heartedly for not having this team ready. We all know DA has played better than this multiple times, BQ has played better than he did, but how can they be this bad all of a sudden.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daboll just sucks.
Ryan is doing a good job, and I am lukewarm on Mangini, as it is harder to hold him directly accountable for the product on the field. Daboll has been just terrible so far, which is evidenced every week in the offense.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I held out for a long time, but I’m now officially on the fire Daboll bandwagon.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you miss last week? We are getting that now.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see that? Daboll was at BQ’s house(the bench) talking to him getting his input….
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
For now atleast. My money says he starts or plays when Baltimore comes to town.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
New game plan propsed: Defense and Special Teams share snaps between Special teams, Defense and Offense. Send the entire offense back to Cleveland at halftime.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
at least robbie gould is giving me some fantasy points. ronnie brown has 1 carry for 2 yards right now. is he hurt or something?
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Defense is doing well, so far. They’re not gonna last at this pace, though.
by NM Dawg on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wildcat till fourth and long, than punt.
Turnovers cost us 6 points already.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would have been more if the defense hadn’t bailed the offense out.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would like to see what he can do as an every down QB
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would like to see anyone but DA be an every down QB and i mean anyone
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After seeing him try to throw a while back, made me think, ehhh, have him run 85% of the time.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be interesting. Bye week next week, maybe we should try it and if he takes a beating he can rest up still.
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One would think there would be a problem with knowing all the plays and defensive looks, the things a QB studies.
Then again, looking at DA…
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 1, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We might have to pay him then. But really, he’s an awesome wildcat QB if he only throws it when the guy is WIDE open.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s like the current Vick, we could only wish he is like the Vick in his prime.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think you could switch back to BQIB and no one would bother you for it.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the other SB nation sites they would
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Give it time, hell top out in the 50’s by third quarter
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he doessnt deserve that. it should be much lower
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are we ever going to run this reverse we keep faking … did i miss it?
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we should prolly let the bears know when we do … so they can be prepared
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for whatever reason, when we ran it against Buffalo they kept covering the reverse. It actually opened up holes for Lewis.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm yea missed that game … just got the sunday ticket … so i dont have to watch all these lame cali teams … starting to regret that o well such is the life of a cleveland fan
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just think, one day you can talk about how great of a fan you are because you stuck with it though 2009.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats what i tell all my band wagon fans haha
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a nice play by Anderson to avoid the sack.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking we might see a change at halftime. Or we switch to an all rushing attack.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Harrison. But we might as well use Cribbs as well. A Lewis, Cribbs, Harrison backfield.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that was a mistake, i missed the start but sportsline is showing he ran for 5 yards
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the incentives are unlikely for Quinn starting in the second half.
by NM Dawg on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
f’n incentives. start him vs. the lions.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a semi-believer in the incentives. But honestly Mangini could just sit him later in the year. Plus he’s a Browns QB so he will wind up hurt at some point this year.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The announcers reported that they asked Mangini and he said there was no chance we would see Quinn today.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1/6, 4 yards. what were quinn’s when he got yanked? 6/8, 32 i believe. this is what makes me so mad. DA is doing much, much worse than quinn but mangini still keeps him in. i don’t get it at all.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i cried a little bit when they said that … they made it sound like he was angry they would even suggest such a thing
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, Mangini is a liar or else completely clueless.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 1, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see Cribbs take a direct snap with Massaquoi in motion for the reverse/Jet sweep, and Harrison in the backfield. 3 options to run.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The commercials are endless in this game.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
right now for me … its the best part of the game
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I’d rather watch this 2 hour slo-mo train wreck than commercials.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better than cutting to other games. Hate seeing Frank Gore break a tackle and go all the way. And seeing McNabb throw a pass to Celek.
Why can’t our team do that.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s depressing, isn’t it? it’s sad when i watch the packers or colts and i get excited b/c of a 25 yard pass.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Has he done anything yet? Donnovan said he got in the game.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The timing wasnt that bad, just a second late
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Timing has nothing to do with it. It was an illegal hit.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s he supposed to do, he can’t stop in his tracks.
Although I agree he shouldn’t have went in like that ie head down shoulders up.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad we didn’t give up anything for Cutler
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. They guy plays as good as his surroundings, and well…. we don’t have much.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i’d be dying if we gave all that up for cutler.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, Veikune getting more PT. Hopefully he can kind of play.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well, great. owen daniels got hurt. the one week i start him!
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? I was counting on him for points.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup he limped off the field in the 1st quarter.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Owen Daniels exited Sunday’s game against the Bills with what the team is calling a right knee “sprain.”
Knee injuries are almost always called sprains initially, but can turn out more serious after MRIs. Daniels almost certainly won’t return to the game, which is a shame in such a favorable matchup against a Bills team that struggles to cover tight ends. Daniels’ backups are Joel Dreessen and James Casey
FML
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at least you aren’t starting ronnie brown! 3 carries, 5 yards.
i still have a. rodgers, deangelo williams, roddy white, driver, and the saints D to play though. there’s still hope but i think this week will be a L for me.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea for some reason im winning all my games … too early to tell though
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i kept starting celek and he did nothing, while daniels was getting 19 points. the one week i don’t start him, he has 8.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ricky Williams isn’t doing so hot either. I think the Jets are just shutting down the running game. They’ll wear down, though.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea the league i have him in not so worried about points … its a 2 QB and i have Tom, Rivers and Matty Ice … but still would like some points
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
matt ryan … not sure why my buddy and i call him that
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4 points in the first half isn’t that bad. He can still find the end zone.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Slaton get hurt or did he get benched for fumbling every week?
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was benched for not being an actual RB
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had him and Shonn Greene in my other league. Both scored negative points.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
looked like a good football hit to me
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
if i saw quinn warming up, i think i would shed happy tears.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good wrap up by Maiava, but once again he goes backwards.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I thought this would a game thread, not a fantasy team thread
by dmbshn41 on Nov 1, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What’s so bad about indulging in a bit of fantasy when your team is playing like this.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is it’s not much of a game.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well i guess we couldnt hope for FGs all day
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chicago is playing like crap and is up 16.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Browns could get shutout today despite a pretty porous Chicago Defense. Our offense is that bad. Unbelievable.
by Browns town on Nov 1, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"We can’t run. We can’t pass. We can’t stop the run. We can’t stop the pass. We can’t kick. Other than that, we’re just not a very good football team right now."
—Bruce Coslet, speaking of team much like the current Browns
by JamesPowell on Nov 1, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
from the few games ive watched it looks like they are solid every game … they just play the majority of the game and something has to give
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to the house
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
vey
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dammit or fumble the ball
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s amazing the depth of futility DA has been able to tap into.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice to see us move the ball here.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve mentioned this, but I’d like to see more of that.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is bad, i’ve reached the cynical point.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously guys (and gals). We traded away our main weapon (Winslow). We have no WRs with breakout talent. We are rebuilding. Finally REALLY rebuilding. Next year week 8 I bet we’re at least 4-4, 4-3 depending on a bye.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s no question we are really rebuilding.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha shaun rodgers looked a little pissed when talkin to DA … maybe he will punch him in the face
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Same team that lost to the Raiders.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well this aint going so well, is it?
BTW, I missed the beginning of the game..how’d that whole “Brown-out” protest go?
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My dad: “Being down 16, we might as well be down by 40”.
Sad how right that statement is.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Evening all.
Business as usual I see.
by LondonBrown on Nov 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
50 yards. We have 50 yards. Agianst a defense that was KILLED last week. 50 yards.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that many?
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if i was old enough to drink, i’d be drunk right now. like REALLY drunk.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pace yourself … as a cleveland fan there will be plenty of years to drink … trust me
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just wondering how much longer is the “DA doesn’t have any receivers to throw to and play calling is horrible” excuse valid? I mean, I am fine with any amount of time…I have been making excuses for the Browns for 25 years..I was just curious. At least I have the “we are rebuilding” excuse on permanent retainer.
by jharbdo on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would be drinking a lot if it wasn’t 630 in the morning.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I say go for it. If anyone asks, just tell ‘em your a browns fan. They’ll understand.
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Never let a clock tell you when to drink.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i let cleveland and columbus decide when i drink
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“derek anderson can’t be that bad..”
“oh he’s that bad!”
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He’s worse than you can think. And then some more.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
alex smith is 11/18 with 1 TD, 1 INT.
49ers are beating the colts.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They took the first half off. Bet you a million dollars they light it up in the second half.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It isn’t just Derek Anderson who is that bad. This is a bad team. Ten years of bad drafts will do that for a team.
by JamesPowell on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
weird. according to yahoo austin collie has 53 yards receiving, but the fantasy thing says he only has 14?
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
id give it a few … if its yahoo .. its been really glitchy this year
by jsneides on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got him for 53 in my fantasy league.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm. well, i hope espn updates it soon. they still have him at 14.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he just caught another 10+ yard pass, too.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was a fleflicker. He got the “carry” but pitched it back.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant fleaflicker fantasy football, but maybe that, too.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow i thought you were on a fantasy site called fleaflicker. facepalm.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be worse to be watching the Det/St. Louis game than this one?
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You could be stuck with Chad Henne QB’ing the Dolphins.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with Brown and Williams running? I’ll take it.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DA < Spurgeon Wynn
DA < Ryan Leaf
DA is awful.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Happily its 8:30pm here.
Beer to hand.
by LondonBrown on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Try this again. Romania. As far west in the Eastern European Standard Time as you can be.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You lnow what the problem is? brown pants
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how many of chi points have come off turnovers now ?
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Almost odd to see us with any kind of pass rush
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
somewhere, denver is laughing. they got the waaaaay better deal on that one.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
More evidence that our defense is solid/average, which is much more than can be said about the O.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
like i said, defense would have way better rankings if we had some kind of an offense.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When Corey Williams gets a sack, you know that Ryan is doing a good job.
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they"re very solid
but overworked and overexposed
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I was wrong here comes DA.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
mAYBE cribbs will return it
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or they can kick a 2 yard punt out of bounds
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that works too
Ever tried? Ever failed? No Matter, try again, fail again, Fail better.
by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont wish injury on anyone but I thought he’d be too hurt and BQ would come.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Braylon only has one catch so far with the Jets.
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“they were who we thought they were”
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“I guess we’re going to go back with Anderson”. Awesome commentating. Good to know we aren’t the only ones frustrated.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
because it is ridiculous and everyone knows it.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need a shanked punt to get past midfield.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This drive will still end with a punt. Just watch.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I' thinking fumbled snap
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So many ways to fail. So few snaps to accomplish them.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sad thing is, we will probably go 3 and out. Lovie probably told him to just kick it out of bounds, or take a knee.
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We need DA to throw a strike for a touchdown first play right now. This season just keeps getting longer.
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
a faster RB would have had a TD on that
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
James Davis, wherefore art thou?
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A first possession touchdown?? Could it be?
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Damn lost my stream.
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamal Lewis is acting like a running back!
by notthatnoise on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
who?
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT WE SCORED
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
isn’t it sad that we all react like that just for 1 TD? lol
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
even we we score, we cant escape the fail
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I feel like this should be green
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One TD and react like: “11 point game, let’s think win!” ?
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha, fuck should have said that so many times.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a, shit blocked punt, +1 to the deficit, than released I didn’t need to, should have thought, don’t -1, double negative.
Fuck this, I hate math.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least it wasn’t a RB rushing TD or WR receiving. We wouldn’t want to be predictable.
by LondonBrown on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
a WR hasn’t caught a TD pass this year. so that would actually be unpredictable for this team.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I don’t think RB has rushed for one?
by LondonBrown on Nov 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a one score game had the refs not screwed up that review.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We can’t get anything going for us can we. =
by skipkirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d settle for a Dick Vitale pep talk.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or a Dick Pound scolding
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My girlfriend would never let me try that move.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 1, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why I’m a history teacher.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were a freshman in college?
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trusnick for President
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trusnick forPresidentQuarterback
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He’s the leading tackler so far today.
by NM Dawg on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trusnick for President Quarterback Offensive Coordinator
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards for Trusnik, Stuckey, a third and a fifth = WIN
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Stuckey has he seen the field?
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the D has shamed the O into a better performance
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But Special teams inherited the suck.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More pressue on Cutler . . . I love this defense today!
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll bet Ryan won’t hate himself tomorrow . . . .
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ROB RYAN IS SEXY!
…AND SO IS HIS DEFENSE!
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Man we are all up in Cutler’s head. We;re renting space in his braincase
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I’m not, but I can pretend! :)
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point has been proven. Special teams inherited the O’s suckiness.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow . . . Eagles up 33-7 on the Giants.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
second he had a run for 5 earler
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice run by Harrison from the end zone.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Daboll is the OC. Need I say more?
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who heard someone go woohoo? Haha.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so that’s what a first down looks like…..
by North Coast Flea on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so that’s what incompletions look like…
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we throwing to Vickers so much?
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Have you heard the song? It makes my day every time I hear it, but YouTube is down at the moment.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
EDWARDS finally gets a catch for 10 yards in the third quarter of the Jets game. Of course, he does a big muscle pump and acts like he just won the Super Bowl. This is after repeatedly running bad routes.
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we got to get out of these 3rd and longs that all we see
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Derek – I see a LB! Look at the LB I’m pointing at! I don’t know what he’s gonna do!!
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d better check down!
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m being eaten! What a world!…
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Derek- I see a LB! Look at the LB I’m pointing at! I dont know what he’s gonna do! I’m gonna throw to him!
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We are down by 10 on the road and yet I feel hopeless.
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
uh oh///not Cribbs
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh I thought Cribbs had a bachelor party. Haha.
But Cribbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see the Sanchez touchdown?
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I did, he’s been HORRIBLE the whole game. Only reason they got there was a Miami punt return fumble (not Ted Ginn)
by gentryholdem on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the Dolphins? No I missed it
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sweet play. A Dolphins defender was beating someone on top of the pile while Sanchez was spiking the ball.
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dieken just referred to our passing game as “Muni league”
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ouch.
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking more Pop Warner, but still…ouch
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by BringBackKosar on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
any body have a guess how many catches BE has to have for us to get a second pick
by The Brown Note on Nov 1, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought we had it at 50 something at best estimate?
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do I have it correct that Ted Ginn has 2 100+ yard return TDs?
by rufio on Nov 1, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
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by Villeslgr on Nov 1, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some good news for fans of ex-Buckeyes, Ted Ginn Jr. has two kick returns for TDs, and 201 yards.
by Simmsinns on Nov 1, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So we finally get a completion and we fumble. Just great.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 1, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They would have never stripped Robert Royal.
by golanbatrac on Nov 1, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He wouldn’t have caught it in the first place.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs