Love for Lewis
Jamal Lewis is calling it quits after this season. There are some people that think he still has gas in his tank, but that remains to be seen. His former teammate and name sake, Ray Lewis, wants Lewis to stick around and keep his career going. Lewis has had one productive game so far this year, vs. Buffalo. Then again, someone had to be productive to get that win. Lewis remains under contract with the Browns till 2010, but that doesn't mean he won't ask to be released like Brett Favre. The only trouble with that is he is a 30 yr old RB and the NFL doesn't look kindly on aging backs.
With this being said, Lewis is talking a lot about the organization, as well as Mangini. Does announcing retirement give you the right to start speaking against your coach? If he takes the advice of his friend and one time teammate and not retire, will he be granted a release or even a trade? If he speaks too much he might not get any of those opportunities. What ever his decision I wish him the best, and he will forever be the Browns killer.
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Good night, Mr. Lewis. Shame you couldn’t go out on a high note.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 12, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’d like the organization a whole lot better if he were still hitting the holes with authority. The step or so that he’s lost as well as the organization’s insistence on running him out there after he’s clearly unable to perform at a high level are two key factors in the general failure of this offense. If we had a halfway decent running game, it would take a lot of pressure off of whoever played quarterback. Instead, it’s always third and 7.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Nov 12, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I lost alot of respect for Lewis today.With him crying about a 1-7 team having to practice for 3 hrs a day shows he is weak and soft.He has given up and it is now showing in his walk and talk.I say bench him and move on.
I wish I could work for only 3 hrs a day and look as bad as they do keep my job and bitch about my boss all at the same time.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, NFL players have it sooooo easy. I’ll bet you don’t wish that you’ll feel like an 80-year-old when you’re 35.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 12, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but he’ll also have more money at 35 than i could ever have at 80, so i think he was fairly compensated for playing a game.
by notthatnoise on Nov 12, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I never said he wasn’t fairly compensated. But money isn’t everything.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 12, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know his body is broken down, but he knew what he was getting into, nobody forced him to do it, so i refuse to feel sorry for him. I realise now my original comment wasn’t very clear, but what i meant was he has received fair compensation for all the harm his body has been put through, so i’m not going to feel sorry for him when he has brain damage at age 40, he chose that.
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to feel sorry for him, either. But I’m not going to be like the person commenting above who implied that his job was so easy, because it’s not.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 13, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I never implied his job was easy.
What I said it must be nice to look bad at what he does and then bitch about his boss and not have to worry about it.He was crying because he has to practice 3 hrs a day.If the team was not 1-7 the worst offense in the NFL and if he even came close to pulling his own then I would not say much but he don’t and now he is just tossing people under the buss on his way out the door.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 13, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Tell that to Earl Campbell and when Johnny U was alive. These guys bodies are a mess at the age of 37. I think Lewis has a beef. He spoke up because it is obvious no one else would.
I don’t respect what he did when he got arrested, that to me is his black mark. He is running back, he is beat up, just can’t get it done anymore.
by Grockcubs on Nov 13, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You may call it crying, but I think Lewis’ point is that the players are worn out and beat up before they even start the game. Obviously this puts the team at a considerable competitive disadvantage. It could be he is being “weak and soft,” or it could be he is talking common sense.
by bbstirrd on Nov 12, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i had three hour football practices in high school, if nfl players can’t handle it, they should quit. and i know they spend a lot of time watching film or in meetings, but to me thats about equal to my 7 hours in the classroom during high school before practice, not to mention lifting or running a few miles before school every day.
by notthatnoise on Nov 12, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Link has more quotes
Lewis said the length and intensity of Mangini’s practices are not the issue, it’s that the first-year coach’s approach isn’t producing wins.
“If I’m going to come out here and work the way I work, then I want results,” Lewis said. “Right now, that’s not what’s going on. I feel like it’s just a waste of time for me.”
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 12, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody may be working hard too, even Mangini. He just doesn’t have the talent he needs to have an NFL team yet.
by holmes213 on Nov 13, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok that makes more sense than the original article
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i still have lost all respect for him over this. he can’t go to the coach but he’ll go right to the media?
by notthatnoise on Nov 13, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I didn’t understand why he didn’t go to Mangini.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 13, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I mean, he’s announced his retirement and is pretty much beyond retribution. Why not go to the coaching staff first?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 13, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is an interesting time to look at how coach Mangini handles this situation. In the Judge article he talked about how had this issue with Laveranues Coles. Coles hated Mangini so the coach called Coles into a meeting with and patched things up. Is he going to do the same with Lewis or just bench him? My guess is that he’ll just bench him. Good chance to look at what we have at running back behind Lewis.
Brownsyup
by Brownsyup on Nov 13, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, and if Lewis had a future I think this would be a great application of Magini’s one on one approach like he mentioned in the Judge piece. As it is though, I think his time would be better spent elsewhere. Or maybe I’m just annoyed by Lewis and his whining right now.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 13, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I was going to say the exact same thing. It seems funny to hear from a professional football player that the 3 hour practices high school kids went through are too much for pro football players. Also… was he seriously whining about practicing in pads? Get a life. Actually, get a life that doesn’t pay millions for you to whine about 3 hour practices and wearing pads. It’s a part of football. Good riddance, glad to see this clown retire.
by shep615 on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, forgot to mention. I can’t imagine Lewis’ “look out for number one” approach sits well with what Mangini is trying to get accomplished. How did this guy get named a captain? I’m guessing his attitude was stellar when training camp rolled around. Now that the losses have started to come, he’s sounding more and more like a Braylon Edwards or Kellen Winslow. Sad.
by shep615 on Nov 12, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the Baltimore attitude coming out. I may be bias but I have an impression they are pretty high on themselves. Look what Ray Lewis did in the off season. Everyone new he wasn’t worth what he wanted.
by holmes213 on Nov 13, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think School and the pros are just a bit different. Can’t even compare the two. I played ball for 6 years, I can’t even imagine what college and pros is about. And my body thanks me for it.
by Grockcubs on Nov 13, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Already do after 3 operations on one knee and a back operation from my time in the Navy
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One of our players just got injured the same way Davis did. Maybe Lewis is right…
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 12, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who else got hurt? Last player I heard about was LB Barton.Lewis is wrong for the way he wen’t about it.He is a leader on this team if he has a issue he should have taken it to Mangini not the press.
This looks like he is crying about 3 hr practice and when he says “It is not my job to tell him this” then what is his job as a team leader? Because it sure as hell is not leading by example.
Some might not like Mangini but when your team miss block,drop balls,fumble balls and miss tackles only way to get better is to work at. If that means 3 hrs a day then so be it.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 13, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who else got hurt?
Keith Grennan:
He’s apparently on our practice squad, though I’ve never heard of him..
by golanbatrac on Nov 13, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with the fatigue on gameday argument is that the two things most strongly linked to fatigue are injuries and penalties. Fatigue affects the mind and decision making. I just don’t see it, except with DA’s turnovers.
It’s worth noting the writer did not back up the statements with any facts. A little bit of info on how the fatigue shows itself on gameday would be nice, because I have a huge list of items that contribute to a 1-7 record. And lack of talent is at the top of the chart.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Nov 13, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this was the original article:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81422dcc&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Here is his game by game production:
http://www.nfl.com/players/jamallewis/gamelogs?id=LEW373095
What he´s doing is mutiny. It´s backstabbing Eric Mangini out of the clear blue sky.
by mooncamping on Nov 13, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
On his way out the door, no less.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 13, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you going to do about GM?
by holmes213 on Nov 13, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He signed a three year 17 million $ contract prior to the 2008 season.
That averages out to 5.666.666 dollars and 67 cents per year.
And for 48 games, assuming we don´t make the playoffs, that´s 354.166 dollars and 67 cents per game. 355.000 dollars per game! Considering what houses cost nowadays he could have built an entire posh neighborhood at that rate. A neighborhood to put people in who oppose Eric Mangini, so he can´t bench their landlord.
I´m being a dork here, but I´m saying that there are motivating factors, for what these professionals do and say sometimes.
by mooncamping on Nov 13, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been kind of mediocre on the whole Lewis thing from the beginning. Funny how new front-office guys tend to obtain players from their own teams (Savage and now Mangini). Anyway, back to Lewis… He hasn’t been the type of guy to be very vocal in the past. Seems like he is burning some bridges and even some escape routes if he intends on playing after this season.
One thing all of the articles I’ve seen on this are leaving out is how common is this kind of practice schedule in the NFL? Is it unusual at all? I can’t imagine that Singletary’s practices are a bunch of guys standing around for an hour. Anyone know if this is unusually long or intense from an NFL league standpoint?
Brownsyup
by Brownsyup on Nov 13, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
according to some they just play Madden football
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
by Villeslgr on Nov 13, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing I don´t get about this whole shebang, is he saying he´s not motivated, or did he just take the long way around to talk to coach Mangini?
At this point I would simply challenge him to get a 100 yards per game. And I would also challenge him to reduce the number of carries in attaining it.
I think he´s a bruiser who has lost the knack for taking it to the defense. It this is his way of saying he´s too old to produce, fine. There are classier ways of saying it though.
by mooncamping on Nov 14, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamal has every right to bitch. He’s a quite guy, plays hard, doesn’t complain and carries shit QB’s and bad receivers. He did it in B-more and he’s doing it again. I’m surprised he didn’t quit years ago. He can’t catch a break. Oh, and he’s carrie crap coaches from Billick on.
by raven on Nov 16, 2009 1:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Captain Stutterstep isn’t worth a damn these days.
by golanbatrac on Nov 16, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree that he has the right to voice his complaints, but he should go to the coach first, then if nothing resolved talk to the media. He needs to handle it within the locker room. The Browns are already being scrutinized without one of the captains sturring up more crap.
by holmes213 on Nov 16, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, he has the right to bitch. He also has the right to be labeled a stupid malcontent when he does it this way, midseason, just before his retirement, and straight to the press.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 16, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
’’doesn’t complain’’
really?
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 16, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your headline should read “No Love for Lewis.”
Sit down and ride the bench you diminished skills, crybaby, unprofessional and disrespectful b***h.
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by theW0LF on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The love for Lewis is coming from Ray Lewis. Although he has not produced this year he still has skills and can scare defenses so much so that they still need to game plan him. He might have put up better numbers this season if the team wouldn’t be down and they had to throw the ball to get back in the game.
by holmes213 on Nov 16, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your headline should read "No Love forScrew Lewis."
Fixed.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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