Post Game Thread: Baltimore @ Cleveland
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 16, 2009 11:45 PM EST
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Browns lose. 16-0. Defense played very good. Not sure what the offense did with the extra week.
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Ray Lewis is the dirtiest player I’ve ever witnessed.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions
Second Dirtiest player IMO
Hines Ward gets that title.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
No. Ward never killed anyone and possibly broke their neck.
A broken jaw won’t paralyze you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
No
But he consistently gets away with clipping and blocking in the back.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
And a crackback block actually is a critical part of some plays.
Sounds like this was just a cowardly cheapshot that had no effect on the game or even the play at hand.
I definitely agree with you that Ray Lewis took a cheap shot. I’ve hated that guy since he played at Miami.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Next time, he should just whistle to get him down. It was a clean hit. Why was it so bad?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yeah, perhaps Mangini won't
call stupid plays with zero chance of benefiting other than getting his players killed. Plus, with Brady’s intentional cheap shot, he should be a lot lighter in his wallet this week. And you call Ray a cheap shot? Besides, it wasn’t Ray on that hit, it was Dwan Edwards that leveled Cribbs on a LEGAL hit! Oh, by the way, that hit at Flacco knees wasn’t a penalty, but don’t go calling our guys cheap shots if your guys aren’t any better and are just frustrated which is certainly understandable. Get a new coach and a solid Front Office and tell your owner to lay off and you will turn it around. Good luck rest of season.
aka 'Rexx'
by Bruce Raffel on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Since when is it legal to throw a forearm to someone’s neck – especially when said person hasn’t even had the ball for three steps?
oh and we called your HOF middle linebacker a murderer not a cheap shot artist.
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How are you an editor?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course you’d say that Ravens fan.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
He tries to kill people on the field. Who knows, he prolly has a 9mm in his sock just in case there’s a losing season.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Oh ok. So because he hits hard, that means he is a murderer. Maybe your defense should try to “kill” people on the field as well.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
He tried to break Chad’s neck didn’t he?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
When did this happen?
I never heard Ray say he tried to do this.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Wow.
I’m a Browns fan and I watch more Ravens football then you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
Thank you for that smart comment.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
MaLoR
you gotta understand, Browns fans have watched the Ravens for a long time, after all they used to be the Browns.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 5:28 AM EST up reply actions
That is true
You watched it until 96 when they were in Cleveland, too
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 5:26 AM EST up reply actions
Ravens football(which was Browns football at one time) that is
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
And why would Ray admit it?
He’s trying not to get caught.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/rlewismug1.html
Here ya go ratbird.
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, you're so funny...
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That was uttter sarcasm. Ray-Ray did the shank-shank and then did the snitch-snitch.
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by Farorefox on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
shank shank
snitch snitch.
Great. Just great.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. I like you now.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Guys. Let’s not be ridiculous. Ray Lewis didn’t murder anyone, he only hangs out with murderers. Besides the justice system has proven time and again (think OJ Simpson) that if you the court of law finds you innocent, it must be true.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh I get it, sarcasm.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Nov 17, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
You Northerners and your bias.
Rodney Harrison deserves that title hands down.
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Why are you still here?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
He might be the dirtiest professional commentator, but he is no longer the dirtiest player in the NFL. That title, as voted by his peers, now belongs to Hines Ward.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I totally agree that Ray is a dirty player though
He had a late hit called on him against us last week.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 16, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
My bad. That’s how we roll in the Jungle. Everything usually has a subject line there.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
What happenned to Cribbs? I couldn’t stomach the 4th quarter so I missed the injury. My buddy told me he got cheapshotted at the end of the game?
Went off on a cart. He has movement in his extremities though. Sucks.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Cribbs lateraled on the last play of the game. After the lateral, Ray Lewis hit him in the head as someone else hit him from behind. Steve Tasker just said that he was talking to the medical staff and was moving fingers and legs.
by golanbatrac on Nov 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
It was at least 5 seconds after the toss.
It was the definition of illegal.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I saw a head bend into Cribbs. You don’t bounce off someone like that by just “running” into them.
They saw he was defenseless and took him out.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, that was what I remember seeing. Lewis tackled Royal. Someone else blindsided Cribbs.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Lewis is still extremely dirty.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
No argument from me there. Just was confused from what I saw and what was being said on here.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 17, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I was going by what was said on the radio (damn you Steve Tasker!). Sorry for any confusion.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry about your loss guys. He was your MVP, besides Thomas and Z-Man.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Still dirty
And if someone gets a neck broken what Raven would you think of?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Lewis better not go into the broadcast booth after he retires…
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions
Do the Dilfer? Talk trash about his former teams.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
That is fucking disgusting. I’m sickened not only as a Browns fan, but as just a sports fan as well. Absolutely despicable. I really hope Ray Lewis faces justice one day, be it vigilante or otherwise.
We’ve concluded it’s not Lewis but he still needs to face justice.
And yes. It’s disgusting.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry elbows up and blasting someone in the face is not legal in the NFL
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Going for the jugular is painted in the Ravens locker room sadly.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Lewis fucked him up in the neck. At least 5 seconds after the toss.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions
wait, that was cribbs down? I thought it was Royal.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 16, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, stopped watching immediately after the play was over.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
BQ’s second half here was just putrid. Those last two long balls were absolutely horrendous. I’m at a loss for words.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 16, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions
He just cracked him and looked like he speared his neck.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly can’t believe I saw Lewis smile at the end of the game.
He must be well trained at this type of stuff.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions
Allegedly. He and 2 others were implicated
but he snitched on the others to avoid time and beat the rap.
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Microfiber wipes clean off fingerprints pretty nicely…
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
More like what a awesome justice system.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Lewis hit Royal.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
Naw. Lewis was in the back of the play and hit Cribbs I thought.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
What happened to Cribbs?! I turned off the game with 10 minutes to go so missed it, but heard that Cribbs got hurt? What happened, what kind of play, did it look bad?
LOOK UP!
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I just cannot see a way forward for the Browns. I don’t know what to do positive. They just seem to . . . suck.
I know how men in exile feed on dreams of hope. (Aeschylus, Agamemnon)
by portland, oregon on Nov 16, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions
Browns will never have a good season
until they get a logo. I recommend the Brownie Elf.
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I recommend a flag.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I want Eric Berry, I’m slowly starting to think that the Browns may need to go with a QB. Unless scouts think that a player like Zac Robinson, Bill Stull or Casey Keenum will work. The best thing that could happen for the Browns is that Clausen and Locker decide to stay one more year. If not it will be at least 2 years until a franchise QB like Matt Barkley or Andrew Luck are eligible.
I’d like to see the Browns cut one of Quinn/Anderson, sign a decent free-agent quarterback, and use their picks on other positions.
Wow. 2003 – 2005 ish all over again?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
I thought Garcia and Dilfer were one in the same for some time.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know that this is necessarily a conversation that should be started…again, but why did you put decent and Browns in the same sentence?
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
How can any QB do anything with the surrounding talent we have right now on offense though? It would just shake their confidence. We need a running game and defense first, then a QB.
Defense seems to be there...
need a QB that is willing to take some hits (unlike Quinn) and able to throw the ball in the field of play.
Thank you Daboll.
Think of that yourself?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
What does that mean, willing to take some hits?
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
I think he implies that we suck.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
stand in the pocket and wait for a receiver to make his turn..
vs.. ducking your head and running when the rush gets near.
This only works if the route runner stays on his route.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
ball needs to land in the field of play at least...
at least half a dozen passes land on top of the photographers..
Brees is going to throw an eye out one of these days.
He forces TDs.
Hes awesome. But dude. Control!
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
He got sacked 4 times not exactly ducking and running when the rush gets near.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
you hear people all the time talking about standing in the pocket and taking a hit to get the ball off. quinn doesn’t do that, he starts backpedaling and throws wild passes off of his back foot. he needs to stand tall in the pocket and deliver the football, and not worry about the hit.
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions
That only helps if your offensive line can keep the defense off of you long enough to make it happen. Last night, the Ravens were all over Quinn and for the most part, it wasn’t his fault. The Ravens were bringing the house on almost every play because they knew the Browns couldn’t run on them with any success.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
11 QBs?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Who do you guys think will be caoching next year in Cleveland?
Any ideas yet?
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Tony Sparano.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Big Tuna.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I LOLed when I read that.
by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 17, 2009 5:31 AM EST up reply actions
Farorefox.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I’m really all for the Holmgren/Gruden tandem.
This Mangini experiment reminds me of the Cam Cameron/Dolphins situation-, maybe they are building something, but a really bad year kills all hope and trust. I really wonder if the players even listen to Mangini anymore.
I love Gruden, he was rooting for the Browns really bad, and how bout those old photos when he was a kid. Not only that he has the best analysis on MNF since…well maybe ever…but he just re-upped for another 5 years for MNF…why leave?
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 7:34 AM EST up reply actions
Alrighty then
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Snowflake
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Jim Mora Sr. RETURNS!!!
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Fail.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t even know who snowflake is!
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
That was so made up.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. You’re allowed to stay up that late?
Bam.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Charlie Weis!
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
You’re right. Too optimistic.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I just know that she isn’t doing too much these days and is a Browns fan.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 17, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Ace’s Ass!
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
…is dead.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry to point out the obvious?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
It will still be the ManPenis. He’s got Lerner convinced of his 10-year to .500 ‘process.’
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
manpenis is such a clever and funny insult! you definitely sound like an adult!
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 7:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think it might be making fun of the people that say Mangina
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
thats what i thought at first, but the second sentence seems like an insult of mangini
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Analysis from an outsider
This was actually one of the better games (for the most part). Your D played admirably. Special Teams wasn’t bad. The Ints were due to the recievers. Your O-coordinator needs to be sacked for the worst O-play calling I’ve ever seen. A lot closer than the score suggested.
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
You see what we’ve been seeing, unfortunately the defense hasn’t always been able to give a full game effort like they did today leading to some of the bigger blow out scores.
We were damn near even on time of possession this game. That’s the difference in the defense.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
This is par for the course. We are used to either our D not showing up at all or playing well. It’s just that to be honest, I have never, ever, in my 35 years seen a worse offense in the NFL at any than this one.
Think about it. 2 weeks to prepare. 2 weeks. And we get that.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
2 full weeks too.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
It’s really beyond comprehension. Did you guys see all the miscommunication between Quinn and the receivers? Holy God.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Holy God is a double negative.
He’s already Holy.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
No.
Holy Devil is an oxymoron.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
No. Holy is an adjective, God is a noun.
Redundancy happens in statements or same types of speech.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
God is already holy.
Saying it again makes it a double negative.
One holy cancels the other.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong. There has to be some form of negation in order for it to be a double negative.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I was waging a losing battle, don’t yell at my improv.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
If I wasn’t a drinking man, I’d sure start.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
‘Quinn’ and ‘receivers’ are the only double negatives I saw in my post.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that wasn’t Lewis. Lewis hit Royal.
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
Someone took out Cribbs then.
And Lewis is still extremely dirty.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
It was a lineman. Pryce maybe. I could only see a “9”
"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"
Mike Rutherford, Card Chronicle
http://www.cardchronicle.com/
Edwards and Browns don’t mix apparantly.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
In a sad way wish he would have hurt Royal at least then we would not have to see him drop anymore balls.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
CLEVELANDBROWNS.COM Feature Headline right now…
Busy Pregame inside stadium “It’s been busy for hours inside Cleveland Browns Stadium with Live broadcasts, fireworks and more.”
Hey, MNF and we have live broadcasts. and fireworks. And people who work there are milling about doing things. Impressive.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
On the 25 bubble.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Godspeed with his recovery.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
My team strives for a new coach every Year
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Rod was such a wasted hire.
I love Michigan suckiness.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
You’re an ND fan (that game was rigged by the Big East, a fumble really?)
Why do you care?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yah. And Cincy…
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry. Pitt.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
A Romeo Reprisal?
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
He certainly isn't having fun at WK
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
Your signatures aren’t having fun either.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
All that did was make me think of Cribbs.
Thanks.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
It also made me sick.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
He had the sweetest song on Madden 03 though.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I really enjoy his music, in a “every song sounds alike and they are all about partying” kind of way.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Why break concentration when a new melody come on?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I was more thinking the Browns in general after that pic
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Watch alcohol poisoning.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Please stop using the subject line. If you are going to come to another team’s blog, please try to follow the general decorum that you see.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Double flag skipkirk?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
And you’re clearly trying to disobey requests from actual bloggers of DBN.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
You’re an extreme troll who has already been blocked once.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
What was he watching?
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
Thanks. Don’t let the door hit you, dude.
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by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
It rivals most.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Seems to be going right along with the game thread.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Awful. I mean, really, BQ long ball awful.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Ryan. You want to just kill this thread?
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 AM EST reply actions
Total embarrassment. I don’t give two shits who QB’s this team, Marino, Montana or Peyton Manning. The whole unit is garbage and that is led by Mangini and Dabol.
I never in my life have seen such a horrible offensive team, never.
Mangini better not survive this. He hired Dabol, he hired Kotankus, he drafted Veinkine and passed on McCoy.
This team will maybe beat the Raiders, 2-14. Just a shame.
This is on Mangini.
Total Optimist.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
I am, you can’t tell me that this team has hit rock bottom. What Browns team has been worse. The 1999 team would beat this team. How in the world can you look at this with any hope.
It is plain and obvious to everyone except maybe you.
I can. Mangini brought in Rob Ryan. He also brought in Maiava who I believe, given time, will contribute. I would’ve liked better if he could play next to Barton or Jackson but that’s just the way it is.
How about Dabol and the fired GM,? How about the total digression of this offense?
When the Browns lose to the Lions, that will step up the process for the overhaul of this team, once again.
Lerner understands his mistake.
As for the GM, none of us are in a position to criticise him because no one knew what happened. We can criticise Mangini for not letting us know, but that’s as far as it’ll go.
Why is it that for the second time this year, 8 games into the season the Players association is going to investigate Mangini. First for the water bottles now the claims by Lewis and the practice routines. Fair or not, this is still going on. He has hired Dabol that is a total failure. What about the O line coach or even the QB coach? This offense is the worst I have seen in 40 years, that includes the 1999 Browns who look like a machine compared to this team.
It is these kinda water bottle fines and hard practice routines that have made us go from 32nd in penalties to 1st (or 2nd depending on today’s). And in my opinion, those fines are fair. We just have some players who seem to want to have a cry about it.
And Lewis? Most people here agree that he’s a whiner.
Not to be rude, but who gives a shit if we are first in penalties when we are averaging 9 points a game?
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
our offense had much more to do with it then penalties, i’ll bet we only had about 5 penalties, which seems about average
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
This isn’t all about football. To Mangini football players happen to be human beings. You build them as players but more importantly as human beings.
I’ll add that I’m with you in saying that the offense is one of the worst I’ve seen. But when your Head Coach is leading you in a right direction in one area, you don’t yank him because he’s going in a wrong direction in another. You yank the root of the problem that is Daboll.
This isn’t college. It isn’t Mangini’s job to shape these guys as “human beings”. It is his job to win some football games.
There is a reason why complete dirt bags like Ray Lewis and Leonard Little are still playing football. They help their coach win football games. Same goes for Mike Vick and soon Larry Johnson. If Mangini wants to shape young men into good human beings, he should take his ass down the Big Brothers office in Cleveland.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
Fair point. But it’s easier to deal with players with good character than with those who don’t isn’t it?
No one said that coaching in the NFL was easy.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
True story on Rob Ryan and Maiava… What was Mangini in New England? It’s been my understanding that he’s more of a defensive minded coach. Maybe Mangini just sucks at offense. I honestly think the best thing to do is hire the Bill Parcells type of guy ASAP, let him can Brian Daboll, and hire a new OC. The defense seems to be coming around, and I think that’s mostly because of Ryan and Mangini both being defensive guys. Mangini probably isn’t a huge offensive guy and Daboll just sucks in general.
You know, why does Mangini get all the blame for the offense but none of the credit for the defense? The D played a hell of a game tonight.
Lynch Daboll. That is all.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
I will not argue about the “D”. Mangini is the head coach fair or not he will take the heat. I give more credit to Ryan for the “D” than Mangini.
Fair enough, but conversely why shouldn’t Daboll get more “credit” for the earth-shatteringly awful offense?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
No No No. I called you an optimist.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Oh YEAH. Good times…good times.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Another QB Change in Cleveland
Eric Mangini, embattled head coach of the offensively inept Cleveland Browns, has made another QB change in the continuing carousel of Browns signal callers. When asked about the change by local media, Mangini responded:
What I told Elmo when he first got the job and, later, when I told him I was going to start him, is that the important thing in my mind was all the progress he made since he had gotten here: that he was3-and-a-half years old, and that he can refer to himself almost entirely in the third person.As with many QB’s of his age, he is seen somewhat infrequently with a favorite toy of his: an orange monster-like doll named David.
Elmo’s Seasonal Stats: 3’1. 22 lbs. Lives in an apartment with his mommy, his daddy, and, in some storybooks, a sister named Daisy.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
I enjoyed the fireworks tonight.
Our new punter stinks. How long is Zastudil out?
Can’t we find some other castoff to fill McDonald’s spot?
Yeah. McDonald is just atrocious. His girlfriend used to work for me, and she got fired because she never showed up to work. Looks like a trend here. True story.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
You are cmopletely missing my point
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
He isn’t a “bust” or anything. It usually isn’t bad when you find a nickel back in the 5th round
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, I don’t think he’s a viable option at nickel back either.
He doesn’t want it. It’s as simple as that.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
yep.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Quinn’s QB rating of 23.5 tonight was better than Anderson in his last game but was below
Anderson’s season rating of 36.2
We don’t have to see much more of Quinn to know we don’t want him back next year, but if he has more games like this, we won’t be able to pay anybody enough to take him off our hands.
Well I don’t ever want to see any more of DA so who should we use as QB Ratliff?
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I’d stick with Quinn for now. I highly doubt whoever our #3 QB is would yield better results. And I think Quinn needs to see more snaps before we say he can’t improve. No one is going to win with our team right now, so why not give him a chance to salvage his career?
I agree with you on this.Was just asking palcal who he wanted to QB because DA should never be able to QB another NFL team
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
Gradkowski and Frye will be coming to town next month with the Raiders.. Maybe we can get one of them to stick around after Quinn and DA clean out their lockers.
Man, I never thought I’d Gradkowski’s name again and think anything but “Well, it could be much worse…”
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Come on, give Quinn a chance to prove he’s not the QB of the future. For goodness sake, he only took 174 NFL snaps before this game. Give him some time to adjust, strip Brian Daboll of his play calling abilities, and let Quinn play against a defense that isn’t a top tier defense. The poor kid hasn’t been able to catch a break.
You’re right, of course. Hard to stomach (what I hope are) the growing pains, is all.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
No thanks.Don’t even want to relive the Frye guy time
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
Charlie Frye QB rating for career: 70.4
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions
Got to stick with BQ for now. God help us, but what choice is there at this point? Ratliff in a few weeks maybe if BQ continues like this, but until then….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
What is really sad is the Lions look better then us and this is after they went 0-16 last year.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions
The Lions also didn’t have a franchise QB return to form.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 17, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
My point is the Lions can at least look like they are moving in the right direction while the Browns well…
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Lions will be looking ahead to Thanksgiving….we can install a new offense in a few days and smother them….well..maybe?
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
As lomg as Daboll is calling the plays look for more games like today
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
the browns defense looks very encouraging, lets not forget this ravens team actually has an explosive offense, and they were held to a touchdown and a field goal.
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Something also has to be done about Quinn and St Clair. Give them a box to stay in for 2 nights so they can talk things over. Who the heck knows what’s going on between them..
This is a serious matter that needs to be looked into. If something doesn’t change cut St. Clair first.
St Clair doesn’t hate Quinn. There has to be some difference between Quinn and Anderson that exposes a vulnerability in St Clair’s game when Quinn is under center. Figure out what that is, and problem solved.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Perhaps it’s just as simple as the fact that St. Clair is really not a good football player.
Want out of Cleveland? Easy - mess with LeBron's entourage.
by woodsmeister on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Perish the thought.
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
We waited two weeks for that?
- How many times did Brady Quinn have a 7 step drop? I cannot remember once other than the final deep passes. The DB’s for the Ravens weren’t even worried about a deep pass. Does this playbook even have a PA deep ball?
- I feel bad for Shaun Rogers. I think that he is the best DT in the NFL and no one will ever know.
- Maivia is a good looking young player. I don’t know if we will be a 3-4 or 4-3 team next season, but this kid has got to find the field somehow.
- Jerome Harrison. Since his 100 yard game he has 21 carries in 5 games. Awesome offensive game planning there.
- I assume that Cribbs is out for awhile. This team is going to be unwatchable.
Agree on all accounts.
Two points. Even when the Ravens rushed 3 Quinn had issues getting the ball off. They even sacked him on a 3 man rush.
Dabol should never call a play again in Cleveland.
Oh and the amount of times we lose yardage on a freakin’ pass play. What the heck? I understand getting stuffed on the run, but when you keep losing yardage on pass plays you know Daboll is in cuckooland.
Well not hard to understand how we would keep losing yards on pass plays when every pass Daboll calls is a feaking screen play or a little 3 and out.This guy needs to go like last week.If mangini is not forced to fire this fool then there is no hope in righting this thing even a little bit.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
Who here thinks even a broken down Bernie could call a better game?
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 17, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
I think my 2 yr old daughter who has no clue on football could call a better game.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
It is going ot be very hard to see a game with out Cribbs out there and there is a chance we might not see him the rest of the season.One has to hope that the hit on him will not be in his mind when he does get back on the field.
Has anyone heard how bad he was hurt yet?
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
“Josh Cribbs was taken to the hospital after taking a blow to the throat and head area on the final play of Monday night’s loss to the Ravens. Cribbs was released Tuesday morning, according to Alex Marvez of FOX. Coach Eric Mangini said that Cribbs has movement and feeling all over his body and was taken to the hospital as more of a precaution. Expect Cribbs, the Browns only real playmaker, to miss at least one week.” - from the National Football Post, via the Browns’ Rotoworld Wire box on the front page here.
That’s a relief.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
At first I thought maybe it was just that the camera angles weren’t showing anybody more than 15 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. Then I heard one of the announcers (Gruden?) in the third round comment that he hadn’t seen one of them run a route more than 15-20 yards deep. That was when I realized that the problem was a combination of Daboll’s calls and St. Claire’s matador impression.
The record of the opponents the Browns have faced: 44-28, without playing the browns: 36-27. For a silver lining, you have to believe our defense will eat up Stafford on Sunday
(yes we need to move on quickly)
The defense will be fine. The offense, however….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Unless the Lions get McDonald on Calvin Johnson.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure what the offense did with the extra week.
I think the WRs practiced the tip drill…over and over and over and over again.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
That seems to be a on going issue with the two QB’s we have.Most pass’s are off the mark not sure what is going on with that.
by Brownsfan4ever on Nov 17, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
At least last night, Quinn was rushing the throws so badly that they had little to no chance of being accurate. He is playing with absolutely no sense of rhythm. What is really unsettling to me is that I thought during last night’s game: why have we thought that this offensive line is any good at all? There are no running lanes, and the QB and even offensive coordinator (a term I use very loosely for Daboll) appear to have no confidence in them at all. The whole passing “attack” is built on quick outs, screens, 3-step drops. Of course, since no defense worries a whit about the Browns’ running game, everybody is pass rushing on every down. I was surprised how ineffective Steinbach looked last night, and “Brady hater” St. Clair was back in full force. Absolutely the worst offense I ever remember, without equal. There is nothing they do well.
I don’t know, they seem pretty adept at 3 and outs.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
my “Brady hater” comment was intended as sarcasm. Sorry, I should have marked it as such. I don’t actually think that, but there is no doubt that St. Clair has played much more poorly when Quinn is in the backfield this year. And BTW: how do you know that St. Clair doesn’t hate him? Sure, it would be professional suicide to let personal animosity interfere with one’s play, but I don’t believe for a minute that it doesn’t happen sometimes: not in the performance of basic tasks, but in the willingness (or lack of willingness) to give full effort.
the one to furrey should have been easily caught, hell i played guard and i could have caught that ball.
by notthatnoise on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. Neither of the INTs was a great throw, to be sure, but even average NFL receivers catch balls all the time that aren’t great throws. An argument could be made that this is, overall, the worst group of receivers in the NFL in the last 20 years. No receiver on this team is playing at the expected level of even a 3rd receiver for most NFL teams. Can’t get separation, unreliable catchers, incorrect route reads – the whole trifecta of suck.
Louis Murphy at least gets some separation
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Warren Moon disagreed. I haven’t seen either INT, so can’t say.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s just say that everyone sucks. Pass off target, receivers let it bounce off their hands in the air. Playcalling only has receivers running 3-5 yards routes. Thsi combination makes for the worst offense in NFL history.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 17, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let’s just say that everyone sucks.
This should be the new subitle for DBN.
by golanbatrac on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Quite. If we’re assessing blame, I chalk up one INT to Furrey and one to a lousy pass by BQ. That pretty much comes down to everyone sucking a bit, so there you go.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the “Perfect Storm” of suck
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 18, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, someone already made that comparison.
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 18, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I want to place blame on the receivers for the INTs, those passes were way off the mark.
Still I watched most of the Bengals Steelers game and if there was every a QB that throws hard and puts the ball in tough places to catch it is Palmer. I cannot believe the pace he puts on the ball. There were a couple of drops but for the most part they have receivers that can catch. And even their new back (I think his name is Scott) caught a ball out of the backfield that was thrown at 90 mph and was targeted at his left ear. He not only caught it but then turned and ran 10+ more yards for a first down. I saw Ochocinco layout for another bullet which was thrown to far ahead of him in a crossing route but he still made the catch. As others have said, I think the NFL and particularly the Browns it seems do not put a premium on guys that can actually catch the ball. Heck, one of the best receptions of the night came from Heiden who can actually catch the ball. Once he limped off the field I don’t think there was another decent catch all night.
Brownsyup
There was a play in the 3rd quarter (I think) when Furrey seemed so shocked that he actually caught the ball, he tripped over his own feet.
Were any of you timing how long Quinn had to throw the ball? It looked like Ravens were in his face in practically every play until the 4th quarter. It also looked like Quinn was not permitted to take any sort of shot past 10 yards until mid-way through the 4th quarter (and those long balls at the end were horrible). Daboll stinks. Let Carl Smith call plays.
I think Harrison has been getting fewer opportunities because he can’t block effectively. With the lousy O-line play, this appears essential. We should have had Gaines in there, if he was healthy, because he can actually block and catch.
Offensive line wasn’t great. Steinbach and St. Clair stood out in my mind as having terrible games. Couldn’t believe how poorly Steinbach played, St. Clair less surprising.
I was surprised with Steinbach, too. I wonder what would happen if we slid him over to right tackle, and put someone else in at left guard.
I agree. But I believe he played some tackle for the Bengals when they had injury issues.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 17, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
They lost all respect for the long ball. The Ravens I mean.
So they just blitzed him all night long. What else do you want to do.
Our Offense sucks so damn bad that I stoppd watching with 5 minutes left.
We really could have won that game.
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 AM EST reply actions
Good luck
Ravens played just well enough to win and kept their offense purposely under wraps, so as not to give up anything for the two games coming up against Indy and Pittsburgh. You guys had a lot of heart. Hope Cribbs is okay but hit was legal and fair. Stupid call by Mangini down by 16 points on last play, what was the dude thinking? Can’t say the same about Brady’s cheap shot that should have him pay big bucks, certainly more than Ray’s on Ocho Cinco, as Suggs may now miss a couple of games. Also Haruki Nakamura is out fo rthe season due to broken ankle.
Tried to stay away all week but just wanted to wish you guys luck down the stretch and hang in there fans.
aka 'Rexx'
The hit on Cribbs was way behind the play. No reason for it.
Quinn was trying to tackle the ball carrier and Suggs got in his way. I don’t think he will or should get fined.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like how he is extremely biased.
Cribbs hit: Totally legal.
Quinn: He should be fined harder than Lewis.
Bruce, shut up.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Go away. Stop with the trolling disguised as ‘consideration.’
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ravens played just well enough to win and kept their offense purposely under wraps, so as not to give up anything for the two games coming up against Indy and Pittsburgh.
That’s pretty much wrong. The Raven’s offense isn’t a mystery at this point; there is very little to hide as far as formations/concepts/personnel goes. They were simply out-played by the Browns defense. No shame in admitting that although you seem like the type of person who will not concede anything.
And all this talk of Rice, he didnt impress me at all. Hey the ravens have beaten the browns twice and the chiefs….ya they are good!
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Stupid call by Mangini? And Cribs is upset he was out there on the field for the last game? Ahhhhh! Every snap Quinn gets is worth something, and hopefully we are trying to score on each play. Is Cribbs a member of the Browns? Why shouldnt he be out there for the last play? Now if we had a shot at the playoffs, then you watch stuff like that. KNR said that Cribbs agent said, Cribbs is “mad at Mangini” for being on the field for the last play.
From the Yahoo account of the game:
“Flacco connected on a 41-yard pass to Derrick Mason, who spun out of cornerback Brandon McDonald’s tackle and raced down the sideline to the Cleveland 13.”
I think it’s extremely generous to call McDonald’s effort there a “tackle”. He got caught completely in no-man’s land. He had no play on the ball, but acted like he thought he could jump the route. As a result, he was too far upfield, and had no shot at Mason. His “tackle” barely grazed Mason, at best. It was a truly awful play that changed the entire tenor of the game at that point.
Brandon McDonald would kill to have Jeff Reed’s tackling ability.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon McDonald would kill to haveJeff Reed’sHank Poteat’s tackling ability.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon McDonald would kill to have Jeff Reed’s Hank Poteat’s mooncamping’s tackling ability
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 17, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon McDonaldRay Lewis would kill to have Jeff Reed’s Hank Poteat’s mooncamping’s tackling ability
Is this the whale section?
by sarcasmdave on Nov 18, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What Offense?
There is no way an offense can win in the NFL. And as John Gruden put it, you could put any quarterback in history behind that line , and with that game plan , and theres no way they could succeed. For Petes’s sake, when you cant block a three man rush, thats pathetic. Its going to take a complete offensive rebuild and a different attitude before this team can win on a consistant basis,the futility of this system makes me ashamed.
Does anyone know the actual rounds of the picks we already have?
http://www.nba.com/media/cavaliers/come_on_cavs.mp3
I don’t usually care much for stats, but here are some disheartening numbers from nfl.com’s Game Center:
1st DN (rush) 1st DN (pass) Avg gain/run play Avg gain/pass play
BAL 6 6 3.7 6.4
CLE 5 6 3.3 2.1
I really don’t remember the Browns being that close to the Ravens in number of 1st downs, but it’s all undercut by the average gains anyways, especially in the passing game.
I like a good screen, but I swear if I see the Browns throw one more with defenders sitting right on top of the play I am going to puke.
What did Quinn do right?
- I would say he has a quick release, which would work well with those slants. (the accuracy will come with the in-game reps).
-Mobile, just needs to know when to run (again comes with experience)
-No fumbles snaps, but those happy feet have to go, we all could tell how nervous he was back there.
by Red-Right-88 on Nov 18, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
(the accuracy will comewith the in-game repswhen magical fairy dust is sprinkled on BQ in his sleep).
Fixed.
Me, losing faith in BQ’s potential? Perish the thought.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 18, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
you and all of Cleveland
The sporting gods hate Cleveland, they give us false hopes, then yank it out from under us like a tablecloth.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 18, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
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