Kokinis Axed

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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/11/sources_cleveland_browns_gm_ge.html

by golanbatrac on Nov 2, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

idk what to think of this since kokinis was basically a ghost.

could mangini be next?

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

and if so… rob ryan= interim head coach?

i think if lerner’s willing to fire kokinis, he’d be willing to fire mangini too.

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As much as I’d love to see Rob Ryan pacing the sidelines as head coach (F bombs and all!) I hope Lerner doesn’t blow the bottom out of the ship just yet. Change is good, but let’s see what happens after we’ve made some first…

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks golanbatrac.

I swear, I wasn’t a fan of a coach picking his own boss or the fact that they were friends, but I am completely fearful of what is next? I mean, we are bad right now…but is it possible we could get even worse with an even poorer selection?

by the irish chop on Nov 2, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i’m glad that lerner is taking action. but i hope he knows what he is doing.

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No, it isn’t. :)

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/02/browns-have-had-consultant-in-the-building-the-past-week/

by golanbatrac on Nov 2, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Crazy.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 2, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i’ve gone through google news and read lots of articles on this (i was trying to see if the reports were legit) and it said that kokinis was rarely in cleveland. mangini made all of the decisions and kokinis was basically invisible. it seems to me (this is my opinion) that kokinis is taking the fall for the team, not mangini.

i was for giving mangini an entire season, but i wouldn’t mind if rob ryan was made interim head coach. i wouldn’t be saying this if i could see some improvement each week, but this team has simply regressed post-crennel.

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well truthfully, if Kokinis was doing nothing, he should be gone. Mangini also now has the personnel decisions attached to the coaching. He should probably be worried about his job as well.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree with what you’re saying. but if mangini is calling the shots and kokinis is doing nothing, shouldn’t both of them be fired? if kokinis isn’t doing anything, he isn’t really responsible for the state of the team. mangini is.

i’m really contradicting myself here.

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Extremely.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 2, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what im trying to say is this…

kokinis should be fired because he has not done anything. he isn’t doing his job as GM, so why should they keep him?

but, at the same time, if mangini is calling the shots, this is not kokinis’s fault… it’s mangini’s. so kokinis should not be fired.

make sense what i’m try to get at?

by emily522 on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I get it i think. You aren’t against Kokinis being fired, but feel that based on reports he is getting the blame for someone else’s mistakes.

I agree to some extent but also think that depending on what Kokinis’s official duties are, he is responsible for the outcomes even if he isn’t the one making those decisions.

If you let someone else do your job you take the chance they might mess up and that still is going to fall back on you.

"This season has been everything most of us feared it would be[.]"

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by Villeslgr on Nov 2, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mangini should sink or swim with the direction of the team. I do think we haven’t had enough time to evaluate, but if its clear to the decision makers that this is not the right path, then Mangini needs to go at the end of the year.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 2, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The report on NFL Network with Michael Lombardi had him saying that Kokinis was unaware of the Braylon Edwards trade until it happened and that he has not participated in team-related activities in weeks.

by Fundamentals on Nov 2, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs