Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 12:51 PM EST
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Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals, Nov 29, 2009 1:00 PM EST
After last week's offensive breakout against the Detroit Lions, can Brady Quinn and company keep things going this week?
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (1-9) | WEEK 12 | CINCINNATI BENGALS (7-3) | |||
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| Date: | November 29, 2009 | Location: | Cincinnati, OH |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Paul Brown Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Bengals by 14 |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 37½ |
| SBN Coverage: | Cincy Jungle | Announcers |
Rich Gannon & Ian Eagle |
Position-by-Position Breakdown
| Pos | Adv | Reason |
| QB |  |
Brady Quinn showed some signs of life last week, but he'll need more consistency before he gets some credit. |
| RB | |
Cedric Benson, Larry Johnson, Bernard Scott, Brian Leonard? This team is well stacked at running back. |
| WR | |
Mohamed Massaquoi had his second good game of the season last week, but Chad Ochocinco has been great all season long. |
| OL |  |
Both offensive lines have played well, but the Browns' line gets a bad reputation due to the team's 1-9 record. |
| DL | |
The line hasn't gotten to the quarterback since losing Antwan Odom, but they still contribute to the Bengals' solid run defense. |
| LB | |
The Browns' line continues to look good with David Bowens inside and Jason Trusnik outside, but the Bengals have the productivity and the youth. |
| DB | |
Cleveland is going to need another cornerback next year unless the rest of the defense drastically improve to compensate. |
| ST |  |
Go Joshua Cribbs! |
The Browns took the Bengals down to the final seconds of overtime the last time these two teams met, although the game would've been over sooner had Shaun Rogers not blocked Shayne Graham's extra point (after blocking a kick of his earlier too). The Browns won't experience the same fortune this time. The Bengals have a good defense, but if the Browns attempt to take shots down the field like they did last week, the field will be more open for Quinn to keep the Browns in the game long enough.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cincinnati Bengals 24, Cleveland Browns 14.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 8-2
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 116-47
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 12 as they battle the Cincinnati Bengals. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this thread. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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Keith Rivers and Cedric Benson inactive.
Robiskie, Veikune, and Francies inactive. Matt Roth is apparently active.
BROWNS GAMEDAY INACTIVES
Browns declared TE Robert Royal, WR Brian Robiskie, QB Brett Ratliff, DB Coye Francies, DB Gerard Lawson, LB David Veikune, LB Marcus Benard, and OG Billy Yates inactive for Week 12 against the Bengals.
Notes:
-Jerome Harrison is back to being active.
-You’re right; Matt Roth is active, as is Alex Hall.
-No RoBo again. Big waste of a rookie season in terms of experience for him.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Big waste of a rookie season in terms of experience for him.
Agree. He should be in there every week.
by golanbatrac on Nov 29, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Rich Gannon?
Gahhhhh.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 29, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions
If that would have gone for a TD.
…
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maybe he finally getting fed up about his contract
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Stream up right now at http://p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=9178&link=1 if anyone’s looking!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions
Wow they get a first down with it. Wow.
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slim to none and slim is trying to find an exit
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like the Bengal’s run game is going to have a good day…
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Looking like it so far. Not liking that at all….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
well over the past couple years when has it really looked good
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
All right! Matt Roth with the pass rush!
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That is a horrible spot he was coming back on his own
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions
Ever more boneheaded for us not to challenge it…
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Wow why didnt mangini throw the challenge flag
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions
About the most athletic thing he has done all season long
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Trusnik was a good pick up too.. Dont feel to bad about giving up edwards for him
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Why do we let QBs run on us like that????
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I cant believe he didnt slid if he would have gotten hurt that would have changed the game
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
As long as we start stopping them short of the marker, it’s progress.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling Ryan would rather give up the run than a big pass play on 3rd down.
by Chief WaDrew on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s see a little of last week, eh?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they held them to three at least. Worried about all the ground yardage though….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions
Dont understand playcall but when do i ever
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions
Most of the third down runs to Cribbs have worked in a situation like that, a juke to the inside as opposed to a head dive into the crowd probably would’ve gotten just enough yardage.
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Yeah situations like that but hell i knew what was coming if they were going to run with cribbs chould have went with the wildcat and got an extra blocker in there
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Jake Allen in before Robiskie? What the heck…
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I know, which is my point.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Former practice squad receiver from the Packers I think; we picked him up a few weeks ago.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
* Re-signed by Green Bay to a reserve/future contract on Dec. 30, 2008
* Spent the 2008 season as a member of the Packers’ practice squad
* Originally signed by Green Bay as a non-drafted free agent on May 2, 2008
* One of the best receivers in Mississippi College history
* Holds career records in receptions (152), receiving yards (2,867) and touchdowns (26)
* Owns single-season records for receptions (61) and receiving yards (1,254), and is tied for the record with touchdowns (12)
* A three-year letterwinner, earned first-team All-American honors from the American Football Coaches Association and D3football.com as a senior in 2007
* Named the American Southwest Conference Offensive Player of the Year
* Had seven games with at least 100 yards receiving
* Caught at least two touchdown passes in five games
* In 2006, was an honorable mention All-American and second-team All-South Region selection by Don Hansen’s Football Gazette
* Was also named third-team All-South Region by D3football.com and first-team all-conference
* Became the only receiver in conference history to go over 1,000 yards receiving in a season
* Went over 100 yards receiving in five games
* Had one of the best performances of his career at Millsaps (Sept. 2), recording three touchdown catches
* Finished his sophomore season with 39 catches for 589 yards and six touchdowns in 2005
* Had his best game of the season at Austin College (Oct. 15), hauling in six passes for 88 yards
* Caught a season-high two touchdowns at Louisiana College (Oct. 29) and vs. Howard Payne (Nov. 12)
* Played one season of football at Southwest Mississippi Community College
* Earned a B.S. in exercise science
* A two-year letterman at Wayne County High School in Waynesboro, Miss., seeing action at wide receiver
* Help lead the team to the 2002 Mississippi 5A state championship
* Helps in his local community with pancake breakfasts and community clean-up activities
* Enjoys music, writing, basketball, bowling and spending time with his son, Ty
* Single, lives in Shubuta, Miss.
* Given name Ijathus Illimski Allen; born in Laurel, Miss.
How can’t you play someone named Ijathus?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ok i was about to say if they didnt call that
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Does nobody on the D know the Tip drill
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions
Matt Roth might be the best bull rushing LB we’ve had in awhile if he keeps this up. Very impressive.
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His bull rush led to Palmer’s intentional grounding.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I am guessing he just isn’t good enough yet. Makes sense given his production when he actually was active and in the games.
He must just be going nowhere, at least so far. Not encouraging.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nice pass for BQ. Need to catch those Estandia!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions
He isnt doing that bad. We still just don’t have any receivers
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 29, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
BQ’s doing fine. The receivers, well….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I know Marvin Harrison was getting old but i would have still liked to try and pick him up
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions
Adams let Scott join the highlight of stiff arming dbs
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Man. 121 yards on the ground by Cincy so far….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions
Mike Adams is a B!$*$ they need to take him out
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions
Breakfast ended hours ago. I don’t want toast.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 29, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hell throw Furrey out there i have seen better hitting in PEE WEE games
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Our ref is very very “excited” The man acts like an offsides should be an expulsion.
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This is always my favorite ref. I’ve gotten used to his signals and such.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was the OH SHIT who do i have coverage
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
well, i guess the quinn in DET was a one-hit wonder.
we have absolutely no running game. let’s get toby gerhart in the 2nd round. i watched him for the first time against ND, and he is just a monster. may be even better than wells was at OSU.
Quinn would have been looking good if balls were caught on 3rd down.
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
That would have helped immensely.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, I wasn’t expecting those no-defenders-for-10-yards openings like versus Detroit, but is there nothing open downfield at all?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I hate being unable to see down field from these broadcasts. Lack of running sure doesn’t help!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
He got wrecked by Rogers.
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by SpecialBrownie on Nov 29, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rogers Horse Collards Palmer and slammed him down
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
lmao at the referee jumping when Mangini came behind and screamed at him after the field goal.
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So I didn’t see the game last week. Is Detroit’s defense really that bad? Did lightning strike the stadium to get our offense started? What I’m seeing this week is the same old garbage I’ve seen all year…
+1
as much as i don’t want to say it, it’s looking like a one hit wonder for quinn. the WRs aren’t helping him very much.
Some lousy coverage helped for a couple of long ones against Detroit, but BQ looked good.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
This is my definition of being murdered on the ground. Sort of an anti-Denver- plug in any RB against us and they’ll look good.
Nice technical analysis there - although hard to argue with it.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
All right, some good field position here. Let’s see if we’ve made any second half adjustments.
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Well - A Chance to Get In the Game
If I was Mangini – it would be 4 down territory this entire drive.
starting at the 45 yd line. take some shots downfield. and stop giving the ball to lewis. he isn’t going to do crap.
Thats w;hat i was saying best catch all year
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe we should find a way for Quinn to throw to himself, since he seems to have better hands than some of our receivers.
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by woodsmeister on Nov 29, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Mangini is going to be pissed again that a defender goes down during our no huddle.
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For the first time, the empty backfield formation had a purpose.
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Now quinn is the best running back too
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Do our running backs still not have a rushing touchdown?
"Nobody ever thinks, 'Hey, maybe I’m actually an idiot.'" - Jay
BQ’s been hanging out with Cribbs too much. :)
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Good it looks like a high school team out there trying to tackle
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions
If i was Cincy i wouldnt throw the ball unless i had to
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions
I think that should have been OFF pass interference
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, it was close.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Furrey had position and just got ran over
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
The WR was saved because he kept his eyes on the football and didn’t turn his head toward Furrey.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, the throw was underthrown so Quinn came back to it and despite contact from the DB came down with it.
The man looked like a receiver.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
No choice. Some short catch and runs might be nice.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
i agree, we have a good inside runner and this could be huge for momentum at the start of the fourth quarter
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Play action pass nobody would expect that
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
i actually think that would be best too
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I liked the big shift there; props to us for not screwing it up with an illegal formation or anything.
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Why did they have to measure? The kickoff was out of bounds, the drive started at the 40. They needed the 50.
i didn’t get that either, that was dumb
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
nah 3 yards is much harder that a foot, and you can’t take that big of a risk at this point
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
13 minutes is a long enough time though that i at least wouldn’t call that a BAD decision. but yeah, i wouldn’t have argued with going for it either
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i typed that before i saw the replay, but you’re right
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
We’re a 1-9 team down two possessions against a team that’s been running the ball very well. The game is in the fourth quarter. 4th-and-3, definitely should’ve gone for it.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Does the fucking punter not know what a directional punt is
by franklinbrownie41 on Nov 29, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions
and people tried to argue with me that all punters were about equal, i think this game proves otherwise
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
but a line drive would not have been
either way, my bad for bringing it up again, lets not get into that argument
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
It looked like MoMass didn’t know what he was doing.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
True. Good luck for us. We’ll take it!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you mean Carson Palmer?
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by woodsmeister on Nov 29, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
3rd and 14 and we just threw a screen to cribbs that was identical to the previous two plays
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Daboll is skipping. Someone go slap him upside the head.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
No, no I think I get his thinking. The defense would never expect an NFL team to run the same play 3 times in a row, so it should have caught them completely off guard.
RD, you are the Prince of Rationalization.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
he should be fired on the spot for that. we ran pretty much the same screen pass 3 times in a row on the most important drive of the game
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
he should befireddecapitated on the spot for that.
Fixed.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
get holgrem/parcells/whoever here ASAP. fire daboll and get someone who knows what they’re doing. here’s a thought: get someone with OC experience!
Probably not until Wednesday.
My idea was to sign & start Kosar but I realise he won’t know how to play behind an even half decent O-Line. So obviously Thomas & Steinbach will have to go & we’ll shift Mack to WR.
You’re colluding with Mooncamping, aren’t you?
Fair enough. We can wait until Wednesday.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
and sadly our QB question won’t be answered any time soon. which leads us to this: with all these needs, in what round do we draft a qb? who do we draft if it’s in a later round? do we even draft one and give quinn another year?
Yea, basically my thinking. Quinn can be decent with a supporting cast. Let’s get the supporting cast in place, let the receivers develop a little more. An actual RB would be awesome.
So, will Daboll explore a different play call here?
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We should pump fake that and then throw it deep on the other side :-X
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
For someone that can’t watch, are these short passes the result of Quinn checking down to his last option or are they the designed play.
most are called that way, but the last few have been checkdowns
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Half and half I’d say.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
He’s getting heavy pressure now, understandably.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Did I see DA run into the picture to catch that ball?
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The out of bounds throw.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nice one to Stuckey. Keep moving at least….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions
speaking of deep balls, didn’t daboll notice our offense worked a lot better when we threw them before there were four minutes left in the game?
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Notice something? Daboll? Surely you jest.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, throw the long ball now. And a couple of punts out of bounds. SOP for Daboll.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions
Heh, against Peyton Manning, 17-0 early on is as safe as a 3-0 lead against normal teams.
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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 29, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Mangini’s postseason press conference (to save you all time later):
“I was encouraged a lot with our progress offensively. We didn’t have a lot of penalties and didn’t turn the ball over. Brady is really making strides and again if he continues to trust the process, we will start seeing results. We had some good drives that if we just executed a little better, we would have won the game. Not turning the ball over is the first part of the process, now we just need to execute.”
Ah, crap. He’s sitting up at least.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Neat! Now Rogers is hurt. What else can happen?
Just move all three Cleveland teams and save us all the constant pain and frustration
Interesting stats:
Trusnick – 8 tackles, 2 assisted tackles
Roth – 3 tackles, 2 assisted tackles and 1 sack
Two good looking gentlemen so far. Bright spots.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
that braylon trade keeps looking better and better
by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, I’d be willing to bet that no team in the history of organized football has ever had as many drops as we have had over the past few years.
He’ll always still be a big L to me.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Pathetic, just pathetic. We have a 3 or 4 year rebuilding project ahead of us. Unfortunately, by the time we get it together on offense the ew good players we do have will either be ready to retire or refuse to re-sign here.
Just showing some progress and an upward arc would help.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
after that aberration last week, looks like we’re back to having a decent defense and a historically bad offense
somehow he finished with 12 points.
…yeah i’ll admit he’s on my fantasy team. i dropped sanchez for him.
I salute your courage – and wish it had been rewarded.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Nov 29, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
sadly quinn will be facing another tough defense next week. SD is 11th in the pass, but 21st in the rush.
they haven’t won at home since October 13th of 2008.
by johnnyphoenix on Nov 29, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
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