Accorsi and Kosar New GMs?
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 AM EST
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So, I don't have any literature on this story but I heard it from the WMMS 100.7 news report this morning. If somebody has literature please post it in a comment. I'm just trying to break the news and inform everyone of what I've heard and also create a spot for discussion before Chris posts it himself.
More specifically, Accorsi is the new GM and Kosar is his apprentice for the future GM spot and the date that Kosar will start is unknown.
Personally, I don't know what to think. I'm fine with Accorsi but is hiring Kosar just a move to please the fans? This is a very risky move by Lerner.
*UPDATE*
http://blogs.cantonrep.com/freshbrownies/accorsi-to-mentor-kosar/
Here is some literature I found on CantonRep.com. I don't know if Accorsi is truly our new GM but it seems to be clear that Kosar will be sometime in the near future.
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What, we fire one guy associated with the Ravens just to get the next one who has worked for them?
No way.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Acorsi has never worked for the Ravens.
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 3, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not a done deal.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/283382-browns-owner-randy-lerner-is-actively-talking-to-retired-ernie-accorsi
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 8:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can dig Kosar involved with the new Browns.
But Accorsi reeks of trouble management. We need to be courageous. Why do we need an old authority figure?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me? Ernie Acorsi is very well-respected around the NFL. He has built successful NFL teams in the past. What makes you think he reeks of troubled management?
by Buckeye Brad on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, Acorsi is top shelf. He would be a solid move. I love Kosar, but to groom him for GM, that I do not know. But if the Browns can hire Acorsi, I am on board.
by Grockcubs on Nov 3, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I too would love to see Acorsi here, but if he’s here to groom someone to be GM, it’d be nice if it was someone who has even a modicum of scouting/personnel experience, and not just a figurehead that the common fan remembers.
I’m hoping this rumor is just the aftermath of Kosar’s recent hiring and the Acorsi rumblings, but grooming Bernie to be GM is the last thing this franchise needs right now.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, Kosar is hired? What´s Accorsi, justification?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kosar was hired as a special consultant for the team weeks ago. Try to keep up. Then, try to make sense.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Accorsi was one of the foundations of the play-off Browns in the 80s. He is more than capable to do the job. that is all fine and good, but does he still have it? Can he turn the team around and get us into the playoffs in a few years?
Also, who better to mentor Kosar, then the man who drafted him? Kosar is a very intellegent person. he also knows football. He graduated early from college, and has done some impressive things on the field. lets not forget the fake spike he drew up for Dan Marino.
by holmes213 on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Accorsi has been consulting for four NFL franchises recently. He said so himself.
Why can´t we have Kosar without him?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Use links. It helps those trying to make sense out of your posts.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland Plains Dealer
posted on cleveland.com:
By Tony Grossi
November 03, 2009, 9:25AM
“I am not taking any GM job anywhere. Period,” Accorsi said. “I am not taking any full-time job. I serve the league office as a consultant. I have consulted in various areas with four NFL clubs the past two years.”
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, because the fake spike play has direct correlation to his ability to fill out a cohesive roster and determine which great college players will turn into good-to-great nfl players.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But people who have never played and sit in an office do know how? give me a name of a person who you would want as GM right now that is available. at this point, it’s time to find someone new.
by holmes213 on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying a non-football playing person has to be hired; my point is, what has Kosar done at the player personnel level in the NFL that warrants giving him one of only 32 positions in the entire world? That’s like hiring someone to be the CEO of Kraft Foods because he holds the record for most bowls of mac-and-cheese eaten in one hour.
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I don’t think the Browns need to hire a full-time GM right now. You’re close to hitting that point for me, in that any viable candidate is not going to jump ship from his team (assuming it’s an assistant FO member elsewhere in the league) midway through the season.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i understand what you’re saying, especially since the GM is still coaching the team.
by holmes213 on Nov 3, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you should really throw a big “?” after the title of this fanpost.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does the site look any different to anyone else? Were there any format changes made overnight? Anyone else with overlarge fonts, overlapping elements, and other weird formatting issues?
by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes, it’s changed.
i like it, except paragraph breaks are deleted in the comments.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gah! That’s what I was afraid of. They’ve done something that overrides my system font config file. Looks like I’m stuck taking a refresher course in Linux font rendering today.
by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The paragraph breaks are so crucial. They need to bring that back, like now.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Use HTML line breaks ( the lowercase letters br bracketed by < and >.
by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a little more complicated.
But at least it is possible.
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 3, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What´s your opinion Mr. Dorn? The clock is ticking.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
My opinion is we need a proven General Manager that has an established history of acquiring talent and building a team, who the coach will answer to at all times. Accorsi would have been nice, hopefully we can get someone like him.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Want to drop some names? You´re knowledgeable.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to research a bit to see who might be available, it’s tough to keep track of who is doing what. Iw ould not be entirely opposed to getting a director of player personnel from elsewhere, someone like Nick Cesario in New England who has strong ties to Cleveland having attended John Carroll.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for your candid response. New England is still tabu to me though, that´s not football.
Mangini has done his wood shedding since then, he´s not a Patriots stooge.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait- New England is not football/?
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You still buy two point stances, and how high is Brady´s completion percentage over 40 yards?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Mangini call it politically correct? Complementary football.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cesario, I highly doubt, would leave NE for Cleveland anyway.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Acorsi not taking a full-time job, reports Grossi.
Accorsi not taking the job, and I couldn’t blame him for not returning after Lerner let Mangini pick his guy over the recommended choice of Accorsi as a paid consultant.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don´t know if this is a credible source, but it says insiders say Accorsi will not be hired.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t expect an answer until after the teabaggers have had their meeting with Lerner.
by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bernie Kosar has been badmouthed by the media regarding his skills as an investor. His football knowhow however is not in question.
I would love Jim Zorn as OC, and if QB coach is not too lowly, Bernie Kosar would make a great one, wouldn´t he?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Zorn has too much of a stink hanging on him right now to be a good candidate. that doesn’t mean he couldn’t do it, i just don’t like the bad vibes he would be carrying.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell with the media. Someone posted the story on Kosar and his financial situation, great read. It was more than some of his bad investments. He gave a ton of coin to ballplayers who were hurting, and his wonderful ex-wife is draining the hell out of him.
That being said I love the guy, however for a GM, that is way up in the air.
by Grockcubs on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love Zorn as OC. Very bright man and a solid play-caller.
by gahnki on Nov 3, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whelp, go to sleep last night pretty content with what I read about Accorsi and then finally log on to check out what’s new…and now I’m all befuddled.
You know those rumors of piss-poor management? Starting to believe it.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
a change had to be made somewhere. Maybe Kokinis decided to get off the sinking ship before his career is ruined. He can claim that Mangini ran the whole opperation, and who wouldn’t believe him. Firing a coach in mid-season has never worked. I think if you can get a GM in that is not loyal to the coach and can make his own decisions talent will come.
by holmes213 on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Singletary was pretty good for half a season
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 3, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We don´t need management, we need direction.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Correct, the Browns do not have cheerleaders.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they were the first to boycott?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lets hire a cheerleader to be our new GM. two birds with one stone.
by Dawg Nuts on Nov 3, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You´re right Dawg Nuts. Let´s get a female.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Parcells would look sexy as hell in a bedazzled halter top and hotpants.
by golanbatrac on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the type of story where the good journalists and the frauds separate themselves.
So interested…
by Ryan Kelsey on Nov 3, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to befuddle everybody with the title but it was a good attention grabber no? But that is literally what I heard this morning and I had to post. I’m not so up on the idea of Kosar. Why do we keep giving unknowns chances?
And also, the new format for SBN is terrible. Change it back. Now.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes, it was a good attention grabber. it’s also a good way to decrease the credibility of the site if random nfl fans come here for information about the GM mess and are immediately led to believe that those two have been hired.
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you have the ability to change it by going to Manage Fanshots, and editing the title.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can’t even come up with accurate names to insult me with.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know but Chris posted his own now so it’s done.
But I can do it to make you feel better.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can sleep tonite. thanks.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You´re gonna put a post out there, getting people to put honest comments out there, and then pull it, basically swallowing all progress in decisioning?
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i’m not asking him to pull the post. I’m stating that I would change the title because the current one is 100% false and never had any truth to it.
You are reading my signature.
by rolub on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but that´s fraudulent. Sorry for the aggressive response though.
by mooncamping on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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