Cleveland Browns vs. Kansas City Chiefs - Official Game Thread
by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 12:16 PM EST
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Last week, the Browns sacked Ben Roethlisberger eight times and defeated the Pittsburgh Steelers. No matter what the Browns do the rest of the season, nothing can top that game.
This week, the Browns are out to show that their efforts against the Steelers weren't merely a factor of the current struggling state of Pittsburgh, but rather an improving Cleveland team. This game will be blacked out for fans in the Kansas City area, the first time that's happened there since 1990 I believe.
| CLEVELAND BROWNS (2-11) | WEEK 15 | KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (3-10) | |||
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| Date: | December 20, 2009 | Location: | Kansas City, MI |
| Time: | 1:00 p.m. ET |
Stadium: | Arrowhead Stadium |
| TV: | CBS |
Favorite: | Chiefs by2½ |
| Radio: | WTAM, 1100 AM | Over/Under: | 37 |
| SBN Coverage: | Arrowhead Pride | Announcers |
Ian Eagle & Rich Gannon |
Position-by-Position Breakdown
| Pos | Adv | Reason |
| QB |  |
Matt Cassel hasn't turned out to be a wise investment for the Chiefs. As Ryan Kelsey stated, "[Cassel] has been less valuable overall this season than every quarterback with at least 100 passes, except Jamarcus Russel." Quinn has become much more comfortable than he was in the first three games of the season. |
| RB |  |
I always love the multi-dimensional backs, and since Larry Johnson left the team, that's what Jamaal Charles has become. He runs the ball well enough and has had quite a few big bursts (alas Chris Johnson), and he plays a role in the passing game. I am now adding Cribbs to the Browns' RB situation, which is why we're ranked even. |
| WR |  |
With Dwayne Bowe returning from a four-game suspension, you have to believe the Chiefs have game-planned to get him involved again and add another security blanket for Cassel. Quinn is still trying to find consistency with his receivers and will probably continue targeting TE Evan Moore. |
| OL | |
The Chiefs' offensive line is banged up right now. Starting guard Brian Waters probably won't play, and Ryan O'Callaghan was added to the team's injury report at the last second as "questionable." Larry Johnson (2.9 YPC) made it seem like the Chiefs line was struggling when he was with the team, but what about Jamaal Charles' 5.2 YPC? |
| DL | |
For what the Chiefs have invested in Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey, it hasn't really resulted in the most intimidating of defensive lines. After the Browns have passed up several defensive linemen in the drafts the past several years, it just goes to show you how the draft is not an all-purpose solution. |
| LB | |
Mike Vrabel has been the defensive leader for the Chiefs, but I'd imagine he'd much rather be playing for the Patriots again. The Chiefs are not good at defending the run, while the Browns have shown some improvement the past two weeks. Tamba Hali leads the Chiefs with 7.5 sacks, but will he get anything against Joe Thomas? |
| DB | |
Ryan Kelsey states that the Chiefs are particularly good against #1 WRs; I guess it's a good thing that the Browns don't really have a No. 1 receiver. The secondary played outstanding man-to-man coverage last week, but I'm not so sure they can stop Bowe in the same manner or Charles on the short passes. |
| ST | |
The Chiefs' Ryan Succop has done very well on kicks under 50 yards, connecting on 17 of 18 tries. Bobby Wade isn't a great punt returner; Joshua Cribbs still surpasses most returners in the league today. |
It's been awhile since I've felt confident in the Browns' chances of winning a football game, but I guess that's what a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers will do for you. Cribbs is finally being integrated into the offense more, which is helping our offense move the chains enough to win the field position game. With the Chiefs' struggling offense, employing that strategy should be enough to pick up a victory again.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 20, Kansas City Chiefs 10.
CHRIS' RECORD IN PICKING BROWNS GAMES: 10-3
CHRIS' OVERALL NFL PREDICTIONS RECORD: 148-62
This is the official gameday thread for the Cleveland Browns in Week 15 as they face the Kansas City Chiefs. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this thread. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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So I was watching NFL Gameday Morning and as I was watching the injury thread at the bottom of the screen, the Browns’ probables came on.
They called David Bowens, David Bowners… awkward misspelling.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions
Poor guy…Nelson Muntz (simpsons) laugh…“Haa – Haa”.
Being a Browns fan isn't always fun but somebody's gotta do it
by mackAttack5 on Dec 20, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I like seeing Jerome Harrison get the start. That might screw some fantasy players though.
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Quite!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nice throw on the move BQ!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions
I was thinking at least one, from my lousy stream.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, should’ve already: http://www.vshare.tv/live/24730/sticktvnet/
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to help!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Illegal contact maybe, but I think they were fine no calls.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Points!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions
OLine getting a nice push up front…I don’t like the toss sweep though. Too far in the backfield and takes to long to develop.
Also, I think we have identities mixed up.
Shouldn’t Harrison be taking the outside sweeps with Jennings hitting it up the middle?
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
yeah probably. I would just kept going off tackle (block down/kick out) to try and get outside. We’ve been getting good yardage this game and against the Steelers with it. Hell, Harrison almost broke one the first play of the game…
Dilf— I mean, Quinn managing the game well but continues to have accuracy and velocity issues.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Turnover? Really?
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions
Why do we always get killed over the middle on those crossing patterns. We must play man coverage alot.
Ditto!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’m glad it wasn’t on Charles (starting him in my fantasy lineup today).
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I picked a 20-10 win for us. If Charles gets 100 yards and the Chiefs’ lone touchdown and the Browns still win, and it improves my fantasy, it’s a win all around :D
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Oh BQ….
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions
It was so bad I’m not sure if it was over or under
by bbstirrd on Dec 20, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he was going to the receiver underneath.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, why do think someone was in position to intercept? It was the deep receiver coverage.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, that means there was a deep receiver, but it does not mean he was throwing to him.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously. It was a punt return!
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.vshare.tv/live/24730/sticktvnet/
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
De nada. Love to share the research.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
If it isn’t one thing it’s another…is this reminding anyone of the Buffalo game?
by dmbshn41 on Dec 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that play to chambers reminded me of san diego
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Make them settle for a FG.
Hopefully Quinn can rebound from this. First pick in five games. Forget about it and move on, Brady.
Really.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Prior to that INT BQ was 7 TDs and no INT…decent streak but came to an end. He needs to establish better pocket presence from what it sounds like. CBS decided to show some health care crap instead of the scheduled Cle vs KC game in Dayton area
by dmbshn41 on Dec 20, 2009 1:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You capable of seeing a stream?
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cribbs is a god.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions
He just broke through all of those tackles. I kept thinking…. Oh, he’s down there. Wait, he shook them off! haha.
I’d have done the same, but I’ve learned to NEVER assume Cribbs is down. Love it.
"Everybody loves progress but not a lot of people love change." - E. Mangini, 12/11/2009
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah
Thank you Joshua for still giving me something worth watching here! Go Browns!
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions
Um. The more he catches, the closer we get to a 12th pick.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I haven’t had to pay, or been cut off since kickoff. Try refreshing?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fraley in at right guard, Womack in at right tackle. St. Clair out with an injury; return up in the air.
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Not a good first quarter for Quinn, but our running game is doing well. Hopefully Quinn gets some good opportunities off of playaction because of that.
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Vickers putting in a couple nice blocks
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions
Why does Daboll have a knit cap with his initials embroidered on it?
It’s not a browns cap so it’s not like anyone elses…
Thats kind of like sending your retarded kid to school with a note pinned to his jacket.
I wonder if he wears velcro shoes too….
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I actually have a pair of gym shoes that have fake laces that are tied, and you just slip youre foot in. they have a hidden drawstring in the rear of shoe to tighten, whats that say about me?
Do you have a hat with your name embroidered on the front? ;)
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
No. But my wife used to write my name in my underwear in case i was ever found dead in an alley.
by dmbshn41 on Dec 20, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Recommended for the morbid / hilarious combo.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
if it were me, i would take points when i can and continue to let KC hang themselves. why work harder and put ourself at risk if we dont have to?
True. But, Quinn has to be able to produce for us.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Bowens is down. Don’t think we can take any more injuries on D.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions
I’d like Quinn to make a throw like that sometime
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions
So that’s what happens to our defense when David Bowens is out?
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So that’s what happens to our defense whenDavid BowensBrandon McDonald isoutin?
Fixed
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
NFL network was like"…oh by the way, some guy that plays for cleveland returned a kickoff for 100yds TD. It was a record. Oh Tom Brady, oh Mark Sanchez we love you we love you we love you!"
Im so sick and tired of hearing about Sanchez and how great he is with his 18 INT on the season and the fact that he CANT make a simple throw or slide.
Cribbs making a play out of nothing again
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Massaquoi just pissed me off right there.
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Pass was still poorly thrown – too low. Quinn not helping anyone.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions
So far I have to agree. Just not looking sharp.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Guess if they don’t play in Siberian conditions, they can’t defend the pass.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions
..and a penalty to be tacked on the kickoff…thats the cherry on the cake that was that defensive series…
Defense needs to stay off the field. That’s cause there’s no passing game.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions
WTF? Kick the ball out of the end zone?
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Hodges is a sissy, was afraid of contact there.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions
I have no words.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
this is what i was talking about all week. coming out today and playing like shit completely burns up all the good will they earned themselves last week. this performance is taking them back to where they were prior to the pittsburgh game.
You’re not wrong, but there’s still time….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Words I didn’t think I’d ever agree with!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Poor guy, playing for our crappy team.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions
Game’s worth watching just to see him run.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions
Scrap the All-Browns decade list. All I need to say is “Joshua Cribbs” and my team is good enough.
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He’s keeping this a game, with an offense that can’t pass and a defense that… can’t do anything.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions
What is that, 28 combined points in less than 10 minutes? Wow.
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“You’re all awful. Try it again.”
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
lmao, that’d be great if that was indeed him saying that. Could’ve been someone else though.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s see the Browns “26 second offense”
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions
BQ at 16.7 in the first half. Lethal.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions
Did you watch the Villinova/Montana game the other night…I know the guy is a DIAA QB but you should have seen the effort that he put out i wouldnt mind throwing a 7 at him to see what he worth
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the guy from nova. they ran the wildcat and he lined up at Wideout and they ran a sweep and he laid out the Corner. he seemed to have a good arm and he could run pretty good had over 100 yrds in the game
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
He has flashes were he looks good then the next week your like who the hell is this guy. I havent seen any of the game today so i cant really say anything just know what you guys have been saying
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I want him to, he’s making it really hard to commit to being the starter next year.
He’s been awful far more often than he has been good…or even adequate, for that matter.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I know. I’m just a Quinn fan. I’ve wanted to see him do well on this team since the day he was drafted.
The lack of consistency is just painful, and it’s not for lack of game exposure now.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
We all want him to do well…so much so we probably are willing to overlook or make rationalizations for just exactly how bad he has been overall….
Too bad.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
oh come on! we’re not getting the ball back.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions
KC 287 offensive yards to our 120 something.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions
Well, folks…except for Cribbs, obviously, we’d be getting our butts handed to us by the Chefs.
Great koogly moogly….
Quin better pull his head outta his ass. I swear he doesn’t even bat an eye at his 1 or 2 receivers, just goes immediately for the 4 yard dumpoff on 3rd and long.
Prediction: Rob Ryan sorts this out in the locker room. We hold the Chiefs to 2 more FG’s and still lose.
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Prediction: Rob Ryan sorts this out in the locker room. We hold the Chiefs to 2 more FG’s and still lose.
Sounds about right given our traditionally stellar second half offensive production.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL should really start giving points for suckiness to keep lopsided games close. Would help Vegas fix theyre problem
Like a bowling handicap….I like the idea.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious half-time show by the CBS Crew (Brown, Marino, Sharpe, and Boomer)
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I enjoy the CBS footbal crew, but thanks WHIO in Dayton, I’m forced to watch Male Figure Skating if I tune in to CBS
I enjoy the CBS footbal crew, but thanks WHIO in Dayton, I’m forced to watch Male Figure Skating
Maybe that might be a better career choice for Quinn.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best play I’ve seen all day from Quinn was last play of 2nd qtr when he took a knee. DA is no savior, but come on, Quinn has been horrible longer than he has been decent. Look how bad the Raiders are, they’re handing the start to Charlie Frye!?!?!?!
Just say no to DA. He’s like crack without the high.
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And youre content to continue watching Quinn like this? At least DA makes you think we have a chance till the game winning drive INT.
When this year has DA gave us a chance to win a game
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
DA will force the ball and continually turn it over, which is far worse than simply being inaccurate.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
the only time i want to see DA again is when they have traded him off
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hell they should let Cribbs try it he does everything else
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Braylon Edwards
Has anybody seen the Jets game i think Braylon got an early christmas present and got a pair of hands
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions
Thanks for mentioning Edwards; you cued Mark Bradley’s drop.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Lost it as well. Only stream I’ve seen so far, unfortunately….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Try this site: http://channelsurfing.net/
One of my favorites for all sports.
Is this the whale section?
The Jerome Harrison highlight reel! Woooo!!!
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too bad harrison is terrible at pass blocking and should be BENCHED. forever.
- Eric Mangini
by DrewskiC on Dec 20, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I almost picked up harrison for my fantasy league guess im kickin myself for not
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions
We’ve done worse things using less sense. After the Jamal Lewis direct snap a few weeks ago, I’ve always wanted to see it again.
just no sense of doing it in this situation
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, getting a two pointer there would have made it a TD to take lead, FG wouldnt be enough. Now, a FG will tie.
Yeah but not getting the 2 pointer makes a FG take the lead
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
the booing from the Arrowhead stands is getting louder
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions
Alex Hall sighting! He’s still playing for Cleveland after all.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions
If Holmgren is paying close attention to this game, then I think he’s gotta love what he sees from Cribbs and Harrison.
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like to be a fly on the wall for that analysis.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
does anyone else think that the fact that it took this long (and under these circumstances) for jerome harrison to finally get a chance is the SADDEST THING.
my heart goes out to the man.
If he wanted to play, he should have learned to block sometime in the last four years.
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does anyone else think that the fact that it took this long (and under these circumstances) for jerome harrison to finally get a chance is the SADDEST THING.
Well, I think that puts to rest all the ‘well, they are the coaches so they must know more than the fans,’ talk.
How many times have we asked ‘why don’t they do something?’ only to have them do it 3 weeks later?
Sigh.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been trying, but no dice so far. Back to Browns Radio Network I think…
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
KC having a case of the dropsies, thank JC.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions
Yes, it’s the long deep throw to double coverage Anderson would have made.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
No. DA throws picks to LBs standing 10 feet in front of him.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bless you. Looking ragged but good so far.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I thought a pile driver involved picking up your opponent and slammed him down (depending on the type of pile driver).
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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 20, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
So, what QB will we be drafting? This has really shot my hopes for Quinn. This is not a tough defense.
line playing really well too and getting help from running game. He should be dominating.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thinking we’ll take Tony Pike or Colt McCoy.
Perhaps take a shot at LeFevour, Skelton, or Hiller in 5th round.
The term system means that the coach forms the offense in a way that anyone with a little bit of accuracy can thrive in. Any average joe could do well in a system.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Anything that really actually hurts them going into the NFL.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind him. I’ve watched a few Cincy games… he has nice accuracy.
I could see drafting him in the early 2nd.
yeah, that identical injury really screwed up eli manning’s career, we wouldn’t want that in cleveland would we.
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that’s a roundabout way to progress down the field.
by NM Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No confidence to call a passing play. This is bad.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions
Don’t think he’d be a good combination with their fast receivers that can’t catch the ball lol
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
This game is insane
2 bad teams always makes for wacky stats and games.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of the Lions, they’re making a comeback against Arizona.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol a RB with almost 200 yards rushing and his team is only up 3. WOW.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
…and lets not forget…a QB with 66 yds., 0 TDS, and 2 INT.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Got http://www.stickam.com/norm420 if you’re still looking. Slow, but….
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Running it up the gut. That’s the way you play it. Go Browns!
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions
vickers has always been a beast, good fullbacks just don’t get credit unless they’re on great teams
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the defense’s turn to suck ass.
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That’s the difference between a punter and a real football player ;)
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions
If we took that 2 pointer I suggested awhile back, we would have an 8 point lead, making it a two score game, or TD with 2 pointer. Now, KC can get a TD, 2 pointer and win. Still a bad idea?
thats a BIG ‘if’ to say we woulda made it.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, cause if we hadn’t gotten that 2-pointer, they could get a TD, an extra point, and win.
so yeah, stupid idea
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
don’t know about that. We could use 3 here.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions
And the dude was a FULLBACK. Of course he could block.
by SpecialBrownie on Dec 20, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Congratulations to Jerome Harrison indeed.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions
no way, you’re all about taking huge risks today aren’t you?
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
2 pointer. The hell with trying to win and put a game away in the end of 4th quarter. You put games away and win with points on the board.
please see the responses to your comment above
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I swear, if the day Josh Cribbs sets an NFL record for kickoff returns for touchdowns and Jerome Harrison surpasses Jim Brown’s rushing record for a game is ruined by a loss, I’m going to be so pissed.
we need to not let them get the kickoff
by notthatnoise on Dec 20, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, early in the 3rd you guys called me retarded for saying that. Had it happened we wouldnt be in danger of losing.
We all want quinn to be a great QB but he isnt. This team still needs a lot to be in the likes of Indy, NE, … Right now we’re running becuase we’re exploiting our strengths, and the opposing teams weakness. And it’s mainly been special teams. Good field position because of Cribbs returns onm teams that have weaker special teams. And if we have a chance for a 2 pointer, I’m calling it.
That’s TERRIBLE.
Inexcusable the defense allowed them to just march right down and tie it up.
fuming.
Just so damn inconsistent all the time.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
This. In every aspect of the game save ST, this.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
From your lips to the gods’ ears.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it’s on Quinn now. We only need 3.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Dec 20, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions
Dont think we have a chance on ingram he wont be there in the 2nd
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
…but you certainly cant argue for either.
by johnnyphoenix on Dec 20, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Tell you what, keep going with the old mentality the Browns have following for the past 9-10 years, and let me know how it works for ya? Whats the worst that will happen? We dont get it, we lose? Whopptygoddamndo?!?! We’ve been mastering that for years…
Then why do you even watch the games there is no point in doing it. it would just be stupid in this situation if it was the other way around and we were down and had the chance to take the lead with a 2 i would say ok go for a win but not when you ahve the lead
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I technically think it has to be 3 to be considered a streak. at least thats what i remeber from the major league movie
by franklinbrownie41 on Dec 20, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
“Following a tying touchdown by Kansas City, Harrison closed out Cleveland’s first winning streak in over a year with a 28-yard run off right tackle….” – from the SI Game Flash recap.
Nice to see a streak in print, sad to read the ‘in over a year’ part!
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Here was the Fantasy report for Harrison this week: “If you own Jennings, figure him to be a No. 3 RB or flex option; if you own Cribbs, consider him a low-end No. 3 receiver or flex option; if you own Jerome Harrison, consider other options since for now it seems like he’s the odd man out of the rotation.” -NFL.com
Hah, did anyone else find the amount of arc on Cassel’s final pass to be hilarious? It was from the 25 yard line! It was like he was playing 500! or something.
Cassel is garbage, always has been. Last year was because of the other 52 players on the roster and the coach on the sideline. KC was stupid to get him and give him the contract he got. You want to talk about DA contract, look at the Cassel contract…
I’m planning to put a fanpost up about our RB & QB situations for next year. But right now… I’m going to watch the Packers beat the Steelers. I have to say, Aaron Rodgers has become my favorite non-Brown NFL player.
Wow, that last sentence could sound pretty racist. Did not mean for it to sound like that!
by emily522 on Dec 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With the way Harrison was running? 7 passes sounds just about right.
Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Good point. Why go away from what works?
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Dec 20, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
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