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The Browns named Fred Nance as team general counsel. 

Not exactly sure what this means for the football side of operations, but it sounds like he cares about the city of Cleveland and knows that the city and Browns fans deserve a winner.  He was a key member in trying to prevent the Browns from moving in 1995 and was considered for the NFL commissioner position some years back.  Let's hope that whatever role this guy serves, it will contribute to helping the Browns franchise succeed. 


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I think it means he’s the one trying to prove that Kokinis was fired “with cause”.

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by rolub on Dec 8, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

i don’t think this means much of anything for football operations.

by Dawg Nuts on Dec 8, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Just out of curiousity . . . is there a fan base somewhere which doesn’t think that they deserve a winner?

by Buckeye Brad on Dec 8, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Jacksonville apparently. They currently have a playoff birth at stake and they just drew their all time lowest attendance.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 8, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Had it right the first time.

Maybe it is recession related — Florida’s gotten hit particularly hard. Or maybe Florida fans are just finicky. Florida Marlins had troubled drawing fans even in their good years, no? I can’t recall for sure if the Tampa Bay Rays have had this similar problem in recent years, but I think they have. USC seems to have trouble filling the Coliseum, at least it would seem so on TV, such as in their final game against Arizona. Maybe it has something to do with sunshine?

by Western Reserve on Dec 8, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t believe the “recession” excuse for a sport that has only 8 guaranteed, meaningful events over the course of a season.

Baseball, basketball, and hockey have legitimate gripes trying to fill their place 41 to 81 times per season.

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by rolub on Dec 8, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They plan to draft Tebow to raise ticket sales.

They’re drafting for ticket sales.

Ship ’em to L.A. for crying out loud.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 8, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why? LA has failed multiple times

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 9, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Jacksonville isn’t doing much better. They don’t even care.

by SpecialBrownie on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

its hard for us to imagine just how hard places like florida and california were hit by the recession. much of their economy was built on speculative property value, to steal a line from “snatch,” when that happened they were proper fucked

by notthatnoise on Dec 8, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

by “that” i mean the housing crash, i hit the overwrite button on my keyboard

by notthatnoise on Dec 8, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

USC fans are fair weather fans. I’ve never seen so many people whine about how horrible their team is and refusing to go and support them against their rival UCLA. Granted this isn’t really that big of a rivalry but as I said … if Michigan sucked and Ohio State had a mediocre season … you would never see any Ohio State fans try to get rid of their tickets cause they are “over the season”. BTW I’m a OSU fan that lives in LA if you didn’t realize. It’s pitiful out here.

by jsneides on Dec 8, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the stands at the Big House this season?

It looked like a 50/50 split of Blue and Scarlet.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 8, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

right the fans still showed up … all of my USC buddies were trying to get rid of the rest of the seasons tickets like they were the plague. they dont even deserve the team they have out here.

by jsneides on Dec 9, 2009 3:30 AM EST up reply actions  

That is absolutely ridiculous. What else can you expect from spoiled rich kids anyway? Clearly, they carry that trait along with them into their fanhood.

I completely agree, most of them don’t deserve a team at all. It all seems strangely fitting however. USC, Pete Carroll, sports fans of southern California. They go together like pieces to puzzle, only this year the resulting image is only amusing to the rest of the country.

by Simmsinns on Dec 9, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions  

During the Paul Hackett era, the Coliseum was regularly less than 50% full. USC being dominant is the only time the city will support football.

by gahnki on Dec 10, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no argument there … its actually a sin to even call them fans .. more like investors … fans when the team is doing good … then they pull out when they start to see the first sign of a fall

by jsneides on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty bad investing, no?

by rufio on Dec 11, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Berth

noun

3. informal (often in a sports context) a situation or position in an organization or event: today’s victory clinched a berth for the Orioles in the playoffs.

by rufio on Dec 11, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone else have that ugly ass polamalu figurine ad from google on the right sidebar?

look what we get for putting a front page item about shittsburgh on the site.

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by rolub on Dec 8, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Not seeing it now, but I keep getting hotel ads opening when i try to right click a link and open in a new tab.

One baseball game, he came to the plate and heard a woman in the crowd shout to the pitcher, "I'll make you a chocolate cake if you strike out that 'so-and-so'!" Says Strong: "I hit that ball out of the park. Then I looked at her like, 'Do I get a cake now?' "

by Villeslgr on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets hope Nance can enhance what is inherently good with our football club.

by mooncamping on Dec 9, 2009 6:41 AM EST reply actions  

The Browns are 1-0 with Fred Nance at the helm of legal affairs.

MVP! MVP! MVP!

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by rolub on Dec 11, 2009 11:48 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

He’s the Moomin Troll on the desk in the office of our hearts.

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by golanbatrac on Dec 11, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Fred Nance is now 2-0 with Fred Nance in charge of legal affairs.

Coincidence? I think not.

by gahnki on Dec 20, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

whoops, obviously meant the Browns are 2-0. Although Fred Nance is now 2-0 by extension.

by gahnki on Dec 20, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for commitment to no longer visible thread.

Dawgs By Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Dec 23, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

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