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Mocking the Draft: Browns Review, Needs and Targets

Hey there Browns fans, I'm shake'n'bake the blogger covering the AFC North for Mocking The Draft. Here's a look at my initial eval of the team, roster and their needs. Anything I missed are any of you want to add? What prospects do you all like?

A letdown season after very nearly making the playoffs last season led to a new GM, Head Coach and Starting Quarterback for the Cleveland Browns going into next season.

NFL.com Stats Record Scoring Off.
Total Off.
Pass Off.
Rush Off. Scoring Def. Total Def. Pass Def. Rush Def.
4-12 31st 31st 31st 26th 17th 26th 14th 28th
Football Outsiders Pythag Wins
Total DVOA
Offense DVOA
Pass Off.
Rush Off.
Defense DVOA
Pass Def. Rush Def.
ST DVOA
5.9 28th 30th 32nd 20th 17th 17th 22nd 4th

 

So who is to blame for the 2nd least productive and the least efficient passing offense?

Well for once "blame the quarterback(s)" isn't a gross oversimplification. 4 QBs threw 25+ passes for the Browns, each one performed below replacement level (including an impressively awful -192.5% DVOA for Gradkowski) and they combined for -626 DYAR. They did this while receiving some of the best protection in the league (7th least sacks allowed, 8th in FO's adjusted sack rate). They didn't get much help from the wide receivers who combined for 22 drops (16 of them from Braylon Edwards), but even added the drops to the receptions, half of the passes to WRs were neither caught nor dropped. Brady Quinn didn't light the world on fire in his first run as a starter, but QBs rarely do, he's their guy. A surehanded #2 WR would be a big help to the offense to compliment the explosive Edwards and star TE Kellen Winslow.

The run game was the better half of the offense, but was still sub-par and featured the unfortunate combination of being among the worst in the league in both short yardage success and runs of 10+ yards. FO's numbers implicate both the OL and Jamal Lewis. Lewis was below average, but above replacement level and the OL ranked 21st in adjusted line yards. The bright side is that the 3 other Browns to carry the ball 20+ times did so very well. James Harrison, Josh Cribbs and Jason Wright were all above average per carry, Cribbs and Harrison especially, Harrison ranked as the 2nd best RB per play (minimum 20 carries) this season. The Browns need to replace Jamal Lewis, but they have at the very least a great change of pace back.

Cleveland's D was middle of the pack against the pass despite an anemic pass rush and was below average, but not awful against the run. The Browns recorded the 3rd least sacks in the NFL this year, so for the total pass D to rank 12 spots higher than the pass rush, the secondary and the LBs in coverage had to have been pretty good.

Despite the addition of Shaun Rodgers, the Browns DL was blown off the ball against the run (though they remained one of the best against short yardage runs). They ranked dead last in adjusted line yards and rarely stuffed run plays.

DE, OLB, CB, WR and RB are all needs for the Browns coming into the draft. MtD head scout Mocking Dan ranks these players at need positions within 6 spots of the Browns #5 pick.

 

1. Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State, 6'0, 200

2. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech 6’3, 214

3. Aaron Curry OLB, Wake Forest, 6’2, 246

6. Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas, 6’4, 260

8. Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia, 5’11, 208

9. Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC, 6’2, 260

10. Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri, 6’1, 200

11. Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois, 6'0, 204

Dan's pick for Cleveland,

5. Cleveland Browns
Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest: Cleveland needs leadership and playmaking ability in it's linebacking unit, and Curry is arguably the most talented player in the draft. The Browns could also look to cornerbacks Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis, but linebacker is a greater priority.

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If they don’t end up with Curry or Jenkins, I will be sorely disappointed. Both fantastic players at a position of need.

by gahnki on Feb 7, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would be happy with either of those two, or Crabtree (who I think will be a fantastic WR but will probably be taken by Seattle at 4). I haven’t seen Curry play much so all I know about him is from what I’ve read, but he seems like exactly the kind of player the Browns need. I’d also love to see Jenkins in a Browns uniform; he was a playmaker at Ohio State. With him and Wright at CB, and MacDonald at nickel, the Browns would have a very good secondary. I think Jenkins will be a great cover corner in the NFL and the Browns can’t go wrong picking him. If they did, I think they can pick a pretty good LB at the top ot the second round. CB’s are harder to find.

I know people will say the Browns need defensive help, but they also need offensive playmakers. That’s why I’d love to see the Browns pick Crabtree if he were available. Imagine Brady Quinn having Crabtree, Winslow, and a rejuvinated Edwards to throw to next year. That would be a hell of an offense.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Feb 7, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The more I think about Jenkins, the more I like him on the Browns.

The things you could do with him and Pool (if you were a creative DC) would be ridiculous. Pool played CB for a little bit, and Jenkins has experience at FS. You could really mess with a QB’s head and disguise coverages like crazy.

Plus, we could get Sean Jones up near the LOS more, which is where he plays better, IMHO.

It still wouldn’t help the pass rush unless Jones blitzed more, but we could definitely use him.

by rufio on Feb 7, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it doesn’t help the pass rush, but you can’t fix everything with one pick. If the Browns can cover better, though, then they can send more defenders at the QB.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Feb 8, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But what if Jones isn’t a Brown?

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by kwoog on Feb 8, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forgot about that.

It isn’t very likely he will demand a lot of money, is it? I mean, he didn’t play well last year and he got hurt.

by rufio on Feb 8, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My question is what is the franchise tag for a safety? I think it would be one of the lowest paid positions and might not cost us all that much to ensure him on our team for one more year. Despite that it might seem crazy to “franchise tag” a solid player like Jones, but not a great player

by Roger Dorn on Feb 8, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

$6,342,000

I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"

by shake n bake on Feb 8, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exclusive

$4,396,000 non-exclusive

I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"

by shake n bake on Feb 8, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This pretty much exactly. I am straight up sold on Jenkins, and I think linebackers can be found creatively.

by joeee on Feb 8, 2009 3:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Braylon has led the league in drops for 2 straight years. It’s probably time to accept that is the type of player he is.

by Cols714 on Feb 8, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guarentee he won’t drop as many passes as he did this past year. His problems were all mental. After a summer off to get his head together, he’ll be just fine next year.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Feb 8, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

If he can lead the league in drops and have a year like he did in 07, that will be more than satisfactory.

by rufio on Feb 9, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Feb 9, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you can scratch Moreno off of that list.

If our new OC makes it a tendency to run Lewis up the middle, Harrison outside or inside on draws, and we can pick up a 3rd RB who is solid, we don’t need to even think about a RB that high.

Crabtree with Baylon (provided he is catching) and Kellen would make our offense scary good, so he would be OK to leave on the board.

Maclin, and Davis should be scratched as well, IMHO. I would only want to take a WR that high if he were as close to a “Calvin-Johnson-sure-thing” as you could get. We have need at several positions, and we can’t have another top-5 pick flame out. Davis’ character scares me while picking that high as well. I think I remember hearing he has had some minor problems in the past. If I am wrong about that, he would be fine to leave on our board.

Some people that we would over-value would be Brown out of FSU, Maybin, either of the other two USC LBs, and BJ Raji. I know we already have Rogers, but if we had both of those guys on the line, we could build a nasty defense and also have our NT ready for when Rogers retires.

I would be really happy with Curry.

We really have decent players on offense, and we can find guys in later rounds to fill our needs on offense (#2 WR, RB, RT, C) Jurevicious has said he will be back. If he and Stallworth can combine to put up 600 yards and a few TDs, and Braylon remembers how to catch, we will be a good offense again.

The defense clearly needs more players. We could use one guy on the DL who is a pass-rushing DT-type, and then a few role players. D’Qwell Jackson is pretty good at ILB, but would benefit playing next to one of those “aaa-thuh-leeete”s. Wimbley sorely needs someone opposite him to rush the passer(and a creative DC). Our starting four in the secondary are young and solid, but we REALLY need someone to play nickelback. I am pretty sure I could take Terry Cousin’s job and I am very weak and not very fast. So we need RE, OLB, ILB, nickel-or-better CB to get anywhere close to respectability.

by rufio on Feb 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree on Maclin, we won’t do any sort of reaching for a WR. If Crabtree falls, though, he’ll be hard to pass up.

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Feb 9, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn’t agree more. Seattle would have to get a Rickey Williams-esque trade offer to pass on Crab, though.

by rufio on Feb 10, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

amazingly (at least to me), it appears from the numbers that shake n bake lists above — and i’m taking those at face value — that it’s the offense that clearly needs more players. now, i would say the offense could see marked improvement from a couple of impact players (RB, 2nd WR), while the defense needs more bodies in more places (all of the positions that rufio lists). makes the crabtree vs. jenkins/curry question a little foggier for me…i had been all jenkins, all the time (i just don’t know enough about curry), even if crabtree fell.

no other offensive player looks to make enough of an impact to take at 5…although i do think maclin will be a stud (he’s definitely too much of a reach for us, though).

by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 10, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we were sitting there at the #5 pick and Crabtree, Curry, and Jenkins all fell in our laps I bet we could trade down a few spots and still grab one of them. We might not get much (a la Phil Savage, Wimbley, Ngata), but we could probably get something if all of those guys were still there (further foggying the situation).

by rufio on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the consenus would be: Browns should end up with the opportunity of drafing either Jenkins, Crabtree or Curry. Anyone of those 3 I would be happy.
 I would still entertain the idea of a trade down, however they are difficult to put together.
 I am in agreement with Buckeye, Crabtree is going to be a star, I predict better than Edwards.
 Who can we get a RB late? Any ideas out there?

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Feb 8, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

RBs

I see these three names as 3rd or 4th round guys…
1. James Davis, Clemson
2. CJ Spiller, Clemson
3. Donald Brown, UConn
I personally like Davis the best and I think Brown will move up in the draft as it gets nearer.

by bellar on Feb 8, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you like about Davis? He is a “power back” at 5’11", 210. He isn’t especially fast or smooth and he had a pretty terrible senior bowl.

Rashad Jennings, Glenn Coffee, Andre Brown, PJ Hill, Gartrell Johnson (had the big bowl for Colorado St. and is 5’10", 230) would all be on my board before Davis.

Does anyone know anything about Herb Donaldson (Western Illinios), Rodney Ferguson (New Mexico), Chris Ogbonnaya (Texas), or Frank Summers (UNLV)? They are all backs I know nothing about but are listed as draft eligible and are over 220 lbs.

by rufio on Feb 8, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really like James Davis. I know he has been slipping since the end of the year, but he is very talented. Spiller has taken over the pass catching duties in Clemson, but Davis is more than capable of catching the ball. His freshman year he had 19 catches in only 11 games. I think he was held back with the splitting of carries with Spiller.

Davis does not have the size of a power runner, but he is one because he gets north and south so very quick. When you watch him there is very little wasted energy when he runs the ball. He doesn’t blow you away with his speed, but he seems to run by a lot of guys.

And Glen Coffee is nasty. Like that guys running style.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 8, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RB's in the draft

did you guys watch any buckeye games last season??? we have a guy coming out of columbus…don’t know where he is projected to go…will he be available at #5? IMHO, he was 2 or 3 games away from winning both the Heisman and the National Championship.

also had a guy who played a couple seasons at MLB…he made a little noise too. again, don’t know where he is projected to go…will he be available at #5. Some of the guys he played with were 1st rounders and he almost made fans forget who they were.

I like jenkins as well…glad I’m not in charge of the warroom (I know you guys are glad I’m not as well), those were just three guys off the top of my head…you still have robiskie, hartline (did anybody see anthony gonzalez with Indy last year), marcus freeman…etc.

Yeah, I bleed scarlet and grey…but only on saturdays…on sundays it turns brown and orange.

by JDD2 on Mar 1, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Picking Wells or Laurinitis at 5 would be ridiculous. Neither of them are worthy of that pick. Beanie is super-talented but his durability makes him a question mark. And Laurinitis is projected to go at the end of the first round. He’s not athletic enough to get picked in the top 10.

I know you’re a Buckeye fan, as am I, but you’re overvauling OSU players too much. Sure, I’d love to see all those guys end up in Cleveland so I could root for them on Sundays, but you need to realize that there are many more talented players in the draft from other teams. There are over 100 teams in D 1-A college football — do you really think all the best players for the Browns are on one team? If you go to ESPN.com, SI.com, collegefootballnews.com or many other sites that have info about the draft you’ll see good projections of where those guys will be drafted.

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 2, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shonn Greene has some red flags

but after watching him this year I have no doubt that if healthy and motivated (the red flags go here) he’ll be at least a 1b/powerback.

I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"

by shake n bake on Feb 8, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt he will last past the midpoint of the 2nd round, thus not qualifying as someone I think we can get “late”. But I agree with you. If we get some pass rush help elsewhere, I would not mind picking him up in the 2nd.

by rufio on Feb 9, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Put a post up on MtD

survey of the 25 most recent mock drafts on the HailRedskins Database

19 of 25 had the Browns with Curry or Jenkins
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/2/8/753273/afcn-mock-consensus

I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"

by shake n bake on Feb 8, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Barring some unforeseen event, it looks like it will be either Curry or Jenkins, and I’d be delighted with either (though obviously, a little more delighted with Jenkins).

I agree with Brad above that Crabtree will probably go in the top four, most likely to Seattle at #4. If he were available though, I think it’s a no-brainer that you take him. The guy has the making of a monster.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Feb 9, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

These guys all know what they’re talking about: Curry, Crabtree, or Jenkins would all do the Browns a lot of good.

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Feb 9, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we pass on Crabtree and are looking to draft another WR later in the draft, the guy I’d love to see us target would be Ramses Barden from Cal Poly.

Not that I know this site very well, but this has a profile on him.

He broke Larry Fitzgerald’s record on consecutive games with a TD and broke a few of Jerry Rice’s FBS (1-AA) records as well in a triple option offense.

At 6-6, 228, he could be groomed to take JJ’s place as the 3rd slot guy.

I did hear he had a poor week at the Senior Bowl or East/West Shrine game, so maybe he isn’t going to be a high draft pick, but for a late round flier, he might be worth it.

by talonk on Feb 9, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

His senior bowl week didn’t sound all that bad. As a WR that big, your game has to be based on physicality, route running, and having a huge catching radius. It sounded to me like he showed those things. He had trouble separating and getting in and out of his cuts (as you would expect from a huge WR that isn’t named LeBron James), but WRs can improve a lot in those areas with good coaching. I would love to draft that kid in the 3rd+ rounds.

by rufio on Feb 10, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I saw him on one of those skills challenge/obstacle course things on ESPN2. I liked how he looked.

by Ryan Kelsey on Feb 10, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched it too. I can’t remember anything about it, but I watched it.

by gahnki on Feb 11, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And in all honesty, Larry Fitzgerald is not a burner. He doesn’t get open with his wheels. He uses his body and jumping ability. So I do agree, if the kid shows that he knows how to use his body and size, take him.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 10, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know, man. did you see him run down harrison in the SB? or run away from everyone on the steelers’ defense? fitzgerald’s wheels are no joke…something i didn’t realize about him.

by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 10, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His vert isn’t all that insane either. Someone on ESPN was talking about how he just times his jumps well and has really good hands. They were showing replays and it didn’t ever look like he got more than 20" off the ground when he was making his grabs.

The dude is just big, physical, and skilled.

by rufio on Feb 10, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvAWLQ1REVNhl70MPxxel985nYcB?slug=ys-mockdraft020909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I’m not sure how reputable this National Football Post is, but…

5. Cleveland Browns: Everette Brown, DE/OLB, Florida State
The Browns need to improve their pass rush up front, and that starts with their outside linebackers. Brown is an explosive, quick-twitch athlete who knows how to get up field and create havoc off the edge. He is exactly the type of pass rusher the Browns need to help restore their defense.

They have the Chiefs taking Curry at 3, Seahawks taking Crabtree and 4, and Jenkins falling all the way to the Saints at 14.

by Ryan Kelsey on Feb 12, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Link that works here.

by Ryan Kelsey on Feb 12, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My gut says Pioli won’t take Curry. The Pats were always reluctant to go linebacker until last year really

by Roger Dorn on Feb 12, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They also have the Lions not taking a QB, which I find hard to believe. I don’t think Stafford will fall all the way to 10. And I don’t see Jenkins dropping that far, either.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Feb 12, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kiper and McShay were begging the Lions to take Stafford 1st overall today on SC

by Roger Dorn on Feb 12, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stranger things have happened in the draft.

by rufio on Feb 12, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kamerion Wimbley part II.

He should stay at DE.

by gahnki on Feb 12, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea exactly, how many disturbing things are going on here

1. Defensive end with the last name Brown
2. Defensive end hybrid type that went to Florida St.
3. Quick twitch athlete (think Gholston aka who Mangini drafted last year)

I’ll pass, thanks

by Roger Dorn on Feb 12, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Feb 13, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s just battered Browns fan syndrome.

He has his own shot to make it or fail miserably in the NFL, regardless of his name, what school he went to, and what players came before him.

  1. overall might be a little high for Brown, though.

by rufio on Feb 13, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know, it was a little tongue in cheek. That said, I always fear hybrid type players because of the boom/bust potential. I’d rather see risks taken in the later rounds

by Roger Dorn on Feb 13, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3. Quick twitch athlete (think Gholston aka who Mangini drafted last year)

I seriously wonder if Mangini watched enough film on Gholston last year. He shouldn’t be playing linebacker..he is a DE all the way.

by gahnki on Feb 13, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree he would be better there. Especially in a scheme like the Eagles’/Giants’ where he would also drop in to zone coverage sometimes.

by rufio on Feb 13, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Colts, Ravens, Bengals and Steelers picks look fine

so they have at least a decent idea of what they are doing.

I'm so fly,
I take this parachute off
I might fall and die
-Young Jeezy "Go Crazy"

by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Curry isn’t available at #5 we have to trade down.

1. Jenkins isn’t a need. He would be great but whats the point without a front seven? If we moved him to safety I’d think about it but I’m sure he wants to be a shut down corner.

2. Brian Orakpo, Aaron Maybin, Everrete Brown might all be nice players in the NFL. Maybe they could be the next DeMarcus Ware but I see Vernon Gholston all over these guys and especially Orakpo. We can’t take that kind of risk at #5. The guy we draft has to be the face of our defense for the next decade.

3. Michael Crabtree would be amazing but only if we got a first round pick for Braylon who I don’t think we will trade.

4. No running back is worth top 5. I think we will sign Derrick Ward to a three year deal and draft a running back next year. Only one I really want is Beanie and he will go mid-late first.

5. Rey Maualuga is interesting but I’d prefer to trade down. He isn’t worth the fifth overall pick. He has too many question marks.

6. Getting a tackle would be a horrible idea since this defense has no identity at all.

7. Best option for the Browns is to draft Curry or trade down.

by JS2310 on Feb 20, 2009 10:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i understand the sentiment – i really do – but it just is not as simple as that. trading down out of the top 5 is extremely rare in the NFL, as you know, so to suggest that the browns could very easily move out if curry isn’t available is a pipe dream.

if you have a thought on who else will be available at 5 (if curry isn’t), and which other teams might want to trade with us to get into our slot, then let’s hear it. otherwise, this is pointless.

by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 20, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The key is that BJ Raji looks like the only promising DT prospect. I think he will be available there at 5, and a team might take the chance to trade with us and snag Raji. My other hope is that the Chiefs take Raji. As you can see, I see Raji as the key to the Browns having a successful draft and not because I want the Browns to take him

by Roger Dorn on Feb 20, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am fine with the Browns taking him

by rufio on Feb 20, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

1. We do need a front 7. I think a good OLB/DE will be there in the 2nd and we can get him.

2. Really? I see Orakpo as the guy who is least like Vern of that group. Gholston’s first step, quickness, and fluidity were/are his question marks, which Orakpo seems to have. Brown is the guy who I think will bust. He just doesn’t have the “get off” you want.

3. Why not take Crab and have him play with Braylon?

4. No RB at 5.

5. Sure, if we trade down.

6. Agreed it isn’t worth it to get a RT (whereas a LT would be worth it if we needed one).

7. Also agree. Good luck trying to find a suitor.

by rufio on Feb 20, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well if we can’t trade down from #5 and who do we take? Kokinis said best player available. Who will that be at #5? Jenkins, Andre Smith, Brian Orakpo, BJ Raji?

I do not think Maualua is worthy of a top 10 pick but worthy anywhere from 11-25. Most mocks have him going 12 to Denver.

Who is best available at #5?

by JS2310 on Feb 20, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please use the reply button if you are replying to a comment.

Jenkins doesn’t fill a need, but if he’s the best player available (and Curry’s not available) then you have to take him. The Browns need talent at many positions so we’re not in a position to reach for a player for need. Jenkins is going to be a fantastic NFL defender and would greatly help the Browns secondary, and I wouldn’t be upset if we got him. We can look for help in the front seven in later rounds. I would love to have Crabtree, also, because I think he’s a no-doubt great reciever. I don’t see why you think we’d have to trade Braylon in order to draft him. He and Crabtree, along with Winslow, would make an awesome recieving corps for Brady. I don’t see why that would be a bad thing.

Also, it’s easy for fans to say the Browns should trade down but you have to find teams that want the pick. Many teams don’t want to draft that high, because of the big money you have to pay, unless there is a player they really want. And they have to offer something worthy of the 5th pick. So the Browns may not be able to trade down even if they wanted to.

I think the Browns will take one of Curry, Jenkins, or Crabtree with the 5th pick. Probably Curry, but if Crabtree is available I’d think hard about taking him (don’t know if Mangini and Kokinis will, though).

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Feb 20, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can only see us thinking about those 3 players, Orakpo and Raji. Really if we got anyone else I would have to question what we were doing. Kokinis knows more than I do, though.

I hate combine weekend, I can’t get any studying done.

by rufio on Feb 20, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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