DBN Big Board #6

by rufio on Apr 11, 2009 10:15 PM EDT

After the fifth round of votes, our big board is as follows:

1. Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest

2. Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas

3. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech

4. Beanie Wells, RB, the Ohio State University

5. Rey Maualuga, LB, USC

6. Malcolm Jenkins, DB, the Ohio State University

7. B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College

8. Everette Brown, Florida State

9. Clay Matthews, LB, USC

10. Knowshawn Moreno, Georgia

11. Brian Cushing, LB, USC

12. Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State

13. Jason Smith, OT, Baylor

14. Jeremy Maclin, WR/KR, Missouri

15. Vonte Davis, DB, Illinois

16. James Laurinaitis, LB, the Ohio State University

17. Darius Butler, CB, UConn

t18. Eugene Monroe, OT, UVA

t18. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama

t18. Percy Harvin, WR/RS, Florida

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21. LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh-166 points

22. Alex Mack, OC, California-161 points

23. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina-129 points

24. Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU-126 points

25. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland-122 points.

On to the 26-30th positions of our DBN Big Board! I will need to re-do the survey once it fills up with 100 votes, so please remember to only vote once.

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Feel free to give scouting reports, tell people what this Big Board should look like, and talk about what your criteria are in the comments. Also, if there is someone who you would like to see included in the list of candidates, let me know.

Hopefully, this portion of our board will be more exciting to rank because these are the types of players who we can hope fall to us in the 2nd round.

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Kenny Britt>Harvin, heyward-bey, nicks, robiskie, and maybe even maclin

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 11, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions

Care to elaborate as to why?

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I was hoping you would ask.
Kenny Britt is fast, has great hands, is huge(6’4), and is a playmaker. He also just dominates games.

Harvin and Heyward-bey are just high because of their speed, and it takes more than speed to succeed in the NFL.

Robiskie is a good route runner but i just dont see that much upside in him.

I would put Maclin and Britt even.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 12, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree that Heyward-Bey’s speed might not matter as much, at least not right away, but Harvin’s speed is football-ready. I think you really want a quick first-step and good acceleration on the football field, and top end speed isn’t as important. Clearly, guys like B. Berrian of the Vikings can make it work with a good “high gear”, though.

Britt is undoubtedly a big WR. I can’t say I’ve watched him outside of youtube. I have to worry about the Big East’s defenses making him look good. He didn’t look especially quick out of his breaks, but at 6’4" maybe he wouldn’t be expected to. Hands looked good, but again, I am watching highlights.

He seems like a slightly bigger, less refined Robiskie. Actually, I think he measured in a 6’2 7/8" at the combine: exactly Robiskie’s height, but about 10 lbs heavier. He can certainly block. I wouldn’t be upset picking him in the 2nd.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Some good defensive players are coming out of the big east like Barwin, butler, and cody brown. Im not saying they are good defenses, im just saying that they arent all bad

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Kenny Britt is fast, has great hands, is huge(6’4), and is a playmaker. He also just dominates games

He plays in the Big Least. I would hope he would dominate.

by gahnki on Apr 12, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

He had some good plays against Butler (who I consider to be a good CB), but it looked like Butler might have been counting on inside help that wasn’t there.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Maclin is not only fast, but has unbelievable acceleration

by Roger Dorn on Apr 12, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s a long strider. I like him a lot more than Harvin. They seem to be similar players, but I think Maclin’s game will translate to the next level much better.

by gahnki on Apr 12, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions

His stride reminded me of Ted Ginn Jr. in his highlight videos. He also hit a couple of seams that I didn’t think he was going to make it through, just like Ginn. The dude can run.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Watch the highlight of his kick return TD against Illinois on Youtube. There was one cut (even though against the kicker, still amazing) that sealed it for me that he will be an awesome pro.

I was at the game too, so exciting

by Roger Dorn on Apr 12, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I know I am not from Ohio, and a Penn State fan, but why the love for Beanie Wells? The guy was hurt a lot in school, and personally what I saw of him I would not rank him 4th on the bid Board. He is in the 20’s IMO.

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by Grockcubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions

Most of us dont think hes that high. i dont see how he got up there

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 12, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

I am really not sure. I didn’t mess with the vote tally. My guess is that people really have bought into the idea that “OSU is a great college team, so if we just draft all of their guys, the Browns will be a great NFL team.”

Also, on paper and when healthy Beanie is sicknasty. 4.34-4.39 40 at his pro day and 10’8" broad jump (biggest among all RB at the combine) for a guy who goes 6’1" 235 lbs?

Even if RBs are worth it in the 1st round to a decision-maker (or in this case to a voter), you still have to be concerned with his injury history.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d also like to add that the line he ran behind at OSU was not very good. Alex Boone (LT) was good but inconsistent. Rehring (LG) is the softest 6’8", 330+lbs guy I have seen play. Until Brewster (who was a true freshman last year) started getting PT at C, I was wondering what was going on because none of the guys playing were any good. Bryant Browning (RT) should have been playing RG, because he is the only guard we had besides Rehring with any talent, and isn’t a OT. All in all that makes for a below average OL.

Beanie was hit behind the LOS far too often.

I expect the line to be far better this coming year, with rising Sophomores Mike Adams, Brewster, and J.B. Shugarts all healthy and looking like future studs, michigan transfer Justin Boren now eligible, and Browning hopefully able to fit back in at OG. So, if you watch any OSU games this fall and wonder what the hell I was talking about, know that our line reloaded and I am not crazy (at least not in this case).

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions

The reason Beanie is ranked so high on this board is simple — many Browns fans want to see them draft OSU players because they know them and want to keep rooting for them in the NFL. And Wells is a “known” name who was dominant in college when he was healthy.

If you ranked them on pure talent then Beanie would undoubtedly be in the top 5. He’s the rare combination of size and speed that can dominate in the NFL. Look at the clip of him running away from the LSU defense in last year’s Championship Game (a defense full of future NFL guys) or Michigan’s defense in ‘06 when he was a freshman. And I don’t know how many times I’ve seen him carry one or two defenders for another 5 yards before he gets tackled. He’s the real deal. Unfortunately (a) he’s had trouble staying healthy and (b) many teams don’t want to pick RB’s that high because the wear down so quickly (and I agree). So he’ll probably go in the high-teens in the draft. But if he can stay healthy in the NFL I think he’ll be a very, very good RB who can carry an offense when necessary.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions

People are also questioning his toughness now, which I believe is mostly because he was running out of bounds when he was already injured, trying to remain on the field. I feel like I read something where Tressel was talking about how they made him run out of bounds to avoid hits so he could stay on the field, but can’t find it anywhere.

by rufio on Apr 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

He was playing for the draft last year. There was such a big difference between Beanie in 2007 and 2008. He disappointed me greatly.

by gahnki on Apr 13, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe he got scared after the injury in the YSU game. All last year I kept wondering what the season would have been like if he hadn’t had that injury. Not that they would have beat USC but it certainly would have been much closer. And Boeckman probably would have been the starter all year with Pryor playing occasionally like he did against USC (and they looked great doing that, people forget). The offense would have been so much better, I think, because Tressel pretty much shut down the passing game once Pryor took over. I think a Boeckman/Pryor mix at QB would have been so much more effective. Combine that with a healthy Beanie and you have a much different team. I wish we could have seen that team.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 14, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions

What happened to the fifth round pick we got from trading winslow

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions

It’s in next year’s draft.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Are any of these guys supposed to be undrafted: TJ Lang, Brandon Ore, Drew Willy, Louis Vasquez, that one DT from OSU

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 12, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions

that one DT from OSU

Nader Abdallah will likely be undrafted.

by gahnki on Apr 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Abdullah? I heard he wasn’t expecting to get drafted but looked pretty good at OSU’s pro day. Honestly, I think he is better than some of the guys we have taken late recently.

by rufio on Apr 12, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Brandon Ore has some major off the field flags. The dude got kicked off of Virginia Tech, and that school has produced some thugs.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 12, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Patrick Chung S.

I like Patrick Chung, saftey from Oregon in the 2nd (50) to fill the gap left by the Browns inability to resign Sean Jones. We need someone that can step in right away at saftey and someone who can be a play maker. I think Chung has great potential and would be an immediate improvement to our defensive backfield. I am actually surprised not to see his name even listed as a possibility on your draft board, why is this????

by ridaring on Apr 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions

I am going mostly by Scouts Inc.’s rankings, and they have him ranked as the 57th overall player. Sometimes, if there are a bevy of players at one position, I will skip one over to get more players of a different position on the board. I did this earlier in the rankings, skipping over LTs like Britton to get more of a diverse selection on the board.

Especially considering the Browns’ apparent need for a S, I will skip over a few guys to get more safeties on the board, Chung included.

Personally, I want a stud SS, not just a decent player. Chung is not an NFL stud right now. He looks like he has decent ball skills, solid acceleration, and flashes the ability to dissect an offense. The kid is just so stiff in the hips, though! That’s the one quality I would really want in a SS—someone who is fluid, can sift through the trash, and agile enough to change directions exceptionally well, especially “in the box”. He seems to fit the ManKok mold of being a “football player”, though. I will certainly put him in the vote.

by rufio on Apr 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I kinda like Chip Vaughn from Wake Forest a little better. Any idea what round hell be taken?

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

No clue. Scouts inc has him as the 5th best S in the class, behind Delmas, Rashad Johnson, Chung and William Moore out of Mizzou.

by rufio on Apr 14, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Vaughn is an SS and Delmas, Johnson, and moore are projected as FS. I wouldnt be against taking Vaughn with 50 unless we think we could get him or Hamlin in the 4th.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 14, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Robiskie

Since I don’t live in Ohio anymore, I didn’t see a lot of Robiskie, but from what I did see, I got the impression that he had a fair amount of toughness – didn’t seem afraid to take a hit. Is that really how he plays, or did I just catch some of his better moments?

by JustBob on Apr 13, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t think I ever saw him look intimidated by any hitter. I would think he knows how to take a hit and how to avoid unnecessary hits. It really seems like his only question marks are his lack of ideal speed and burst.

by rufio on Apr 14, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions