DBN Big Board #8

by rufio on Apr 20, 2009 4:59 PM EDT

After the sixth round of votes, our big board is as follows:

1. Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest

2. Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas

3. Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech

4. Beanie Wells, RB, the Ohio State University

5. Rey Maualuga, LB, USC

6. Malcolm Jenkins, DB, the Ohio State University

7. B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College

8. Everette Brown, Florida State

9. Clay Matthews, LB, USC

10. Knowshawn Moreno, Georgia

11. Brian Cushing, LB, USC

12. Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State

13. Jason Smith, OT, Baylor

14. Jeremy Maclin, WR/KR, Missouri

15. Vonte Davis, DB, Illinois

16. James Laurinaitis, LB, the Ohio State University

17. Darius Butler, CB, UConn

t18. Eugene Monroe, OT, UVA

t18. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama

t18. Percy Harvin, WR/RS, Florida

21. LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh

22. Alex Mack, OC, California

23. Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina

24. Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU

25. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland

26. Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest

27. Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

28. Mark Sanchez, QB, USC

29. Donald Brown, RB, UConn

30. Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Cincinnati

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31. Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers--115 points

32. Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon--108 points

33. Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois--95 points

34. Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia--94 points

35. Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia--84 points

36. Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee--73 points

37. Max Unger, OL, Oregon--64 points

On to the 38th-44th positions of our DBN Big Board! I will need to re-do the survey once it fills up with 100 votes, so please remember to only vote once.

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Feel free to give scouting reports, tell people what this Big Board should look like, and talk about what your criteria are in the comments. Also, if there is someone who you would like to see included in the list of candidates, let me know.

For this round of votes, you will choose 7 players. This is to speed up the process so our board is 50 players deep by draft day.

I will be closing this poll on Thursday. Vote soon!

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For what its worth i looked at the all of the RBs drafted last year:
4. Darren McFadden- I think he will be good this year
13. Jonathan Stewart- a Beast
22. Felix Jones- pretty good
23.Rashard Mendenhall- Hate him
24. Chris Johnson- was the Titans offense
44. Matt Forte- Best RB of the draft
55. Ray Rice- decent
64. Kevin Jonnes- okay
73. Jamaal Charles- havent heard of him
89. Steve Slaton- He was a beast
122. Tashard Choice- Okay
139. Ryan Torain- looked good against us(but then again, who didnt)
149. Tim Hightower- wasnt bad for the cards
166. Marcus Thomas- whos that
172. Thomas Brown- havent heard of him
176. Jalen Parmele- dont know him either
179. Xavier Omon- benchwarmer
202. Mike Hart- benchwarmer
213. Chauncey Washington- Havent heard of him
227. Peyton Hillis- what a steal
223.Justin Forsett- benchwarmer
240.Allen Patrick- doesnt he play for us now?

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions

Forte and Chris Johnson were incredible

by Roger Dorn on Apr 20, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Jamaal Charles had some nice runs for the Chiefs. I do agree, Forte is the complete back that teams dream about.

And I LOVE Tashard Choice. He is a better back than Felix Jones.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Charles is a great compliment to Johnson. The only time he had to really carry a load against Tampa, he had 18 for 106 yds (5.9 average).

by rufio on Apr 20, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

How is Ray Rice decent?

I think he is amazing! He destroyed us last year when we had the Ravens down 14 at our house. That 60 yard run he had was insane! I think he will be one of the best RB’s in the league one day. Jones-Drew style.

Why is our name the Browns but we wear Orange Helmets?

by Orange Helmats on Apr 22, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

and he didn’t really play the rest of the year

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Forte was under 4 YPC in 10 games last year. I don’t get the reverence.

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by kwoog on Apr 20, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions

The guy also had 68 catches which led his team. The Bears faced 8 in the box because they have NO WR’s. At all. Devin Hester was their best WR last year.

Forte is a complete back.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 20, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I love him because he pretty much won the the fantasy football championship.

He is a good NFL back, despite not getting to 4 YPC in those games. If you were playing the Bears, wouldn’t you have stacked up on him? Really the only concerns I would have about last years’ Bears offense would be Forte on the ground and Hester breaking several huge plays.

Put a tough corner on Hester to bump him, have a safety whose job it is to not let Hester go deep, and then commit the rest of the D to Forte. If any of the Bears’ other weapons could have beaten me with Kyle Orton throwing them the ball, I would have taken it.

by rufio on Apr 20, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I bet the bears will be goood with cutler if they can get him a receiver

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 21, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions

They might target Barden to be the Brandon Marshall to Hester’s Eddie Royal. I would if I were them.

by rufio on Apr 21, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions

What do yall think about Jeremiah Johnson in the 4th or Gartrell Johnson in the 6th

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 21, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions

could be smoke, but i think grossi may actually have something here. i’ve thought all along that the typical “flashy wide receiver” stigma (right or wrong) would keep ManKok from using their first ever pick on crabtree, and it sounds like he didn’t do much to convince them otherwise.

by DontCallMeJoey on Apr 22, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions

I saw the same thing. Can anyone name a single good WR that hasn’t had a brush with the law or diva moment? I am having a really hard time doing that. If we never get a WR with some sort of attitude, we will be throwing the ball to the likes of David Patten for the next four years.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Colston? Fitzgerald? Wayne?

I’m trying to convince myself that Raji is a good pick. It’s slowly working.

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by kwoog on Apr 22, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think we take Raji either

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I am worried that Raji is now the guy.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions

It doesn’t make sense to me. Raji is really a nose tackle or a 4-3 tackle. I don’t think he would be effective as a 4-3 end and I don’t see Mangini moving Rogers to end. Tyson Jackson makes a lot more sense than Raji for this team

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

*sorry, meant to say I don’t think he’d be effective as a 3-4 end

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree. Moving Rogers to DE would make it easier on the offense. Put him in the middle and make the offense deal with him EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Do you all think Jarron Gilbert would be available at 50 cuz i think he would be a good fit for us at DE

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I am guessing he is available past 50. Might not make it to us in the 4th, though.

Still with all of the guys similar to Gilbert, you have to think he will last. Hood, Marks, Moala, etc.

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Jarron Gilbert:

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry my links didnt post i dont no what happened

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Is it him jumping out of a pool?

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

that was one of them. One was an analysis of him by draftguysdotcom and the other was him squatting and deadlifting almost 700 lbs.

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

My point is that hes freakin strong

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I will give you Colston and Wayne. Larry Fitz beat on his old lady last year.

Good call on the first two though.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions

i think i’ve convinced myself that the pick, at 5, will be a lineman of some sort. i’m hoping it’s raji or tyson jackson (the more i read, the more he seems to make sense) as opposed to an OT (maybe monroe), and i can’t argue with the philosophy of loading up on the lines. i view top-shelf linemen as being similar to good pitchers — you can never have too many good ones, and if you find yourself with a wealth of them, there’s always someone willing to make a move to acquire a good one.

by DontCallMeJoey on Apr 22, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I think a lot depends on who goes where. If the Chiefs trade out of the 3 spot, Curry has a good chance of falling to us and he will be the pick.

If the Chiefs don’t trde out, Sanchez might fall to us and I could see Mangini moving back in the draft and adding selection.

If Curry goes 3 to the Chiefs and Sanchez goes 4 to the Seahawks, then I think this would be worst case scenario for maximizing value. We might have to take BPA – Crabtree, Jackson, or Raji

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Tyson Jackson at five would be much too high. If we wanted him, I’d hope we’d be able to trade down and get something—even just a 6th rounder.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on Apr 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions

It definetley goes against the take the best player strategy

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

At least according to the professional “mock drafters”

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Megatron? He tested positive for marijuana at the combine if you consider that egregious. I remember him being pretty clean cut for a WR other than that?

Jerry Rice?

Tim Brown?

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Andre Johnson?

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Good call. I somehow always forget about him.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea how did we forget him. He saved my fantasy team last year!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I think everyone forgets about him because he just goes out and dominates. No commercials, no whining, just 100 per and a TD.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 23, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions

…and he plays for Houston.

by rufio on Apr 23, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions

braylon edwards

by DontCallMeJoey on Apr 22, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Isn’t that after the PD reported that ManKok was liking Crab more and more?

Can they just report that we both love and hate every player conceivable for the 5th pick?

If the media knows something about who you are going to pick, you are doing a terrible job as GM, IMHO.

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Tony Grossi doesn’t know what is going on is what it comes down to

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Don Banks from Si.com is now reporting that the Browns may take LSU’s Tyson Jackson at 5.

I love this time of year. So many lies.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 22, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions

See, Tyson Jackson makes more sense to me, and I wouldn’t mind this pick as much. He would slot right in at 3-4 end, and be a perfect fit for that position

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

i think i’m with you on tyson jackson. the only thing that worries me about it is the quickness with which he would have risen from, like, mid-to-late first round up to the 5 pick. that type of recipe rarely seems to work.

by DontCallMeJoey on Apr 22, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

He is quick enough to be a 3-4 end. 3-4 ends can be had aplenty this year in the 2nd round, though.

I like the pick if ManKok can trade down to #10ish. Even if it is just for an additional 3rd rounder or something ridiculously cheap like that.

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I am beginning to think this is option 1b. Option 1a is pray that Curry is there at 5. Option 1b is hope we can move back 5 spots or so and nab Tyson Jackson and additional picks

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

PLease dont take Jackson. Hes not THAT good

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

And then I see that rufio states the same thing I just posted..whoops.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on Apr 22, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions

ha, my asking price was a little higher, though.

If they were really in love with Jackson, I’d take the 6th rounder over nothing.

by rufio on Apr 22, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions

• Here’s a potential meaningful coincidence that could really come to fruition by Saturday night: In 1996, the first-year Baltimore Ravens selected University of Miami middle linebacker Ray Lewis at No. 26 in the first round. This year, the Ravens might find themselves in position to select the eventual heir to Lewis’ throne, and it very well could be … another inside linebacker, from a warm-weather school, at No. 26, who at least phonetically answers by the same first name: USC’s Rey Maualuga.

I don’t know about you, but I’ve got chills.

Is Mr. Banks being facetious here? I sure hope so.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on Apr 22, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions

Let’s hope this “Rey” isn’t involved in a murder trial. I do live in Atlanta after all.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 23, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Anyone think that the whole “Crabtree is not nice” thing is a smokescreen so if we trade down he might be there?

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 22, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions

I hope they could come up with something better than “he is not nice” if they are using smokescreens

by Roger Dorn on Apr 22, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I think that there is a good chance of this. This FO has kept a lid on everything that they have wanted to. So on the flip side, everything that has gotten out probably has a reason behind it. Like I have said before, if we trade down at 5, I don’t see a team other than Oakland and maybe SF, that would use a first rounder on Crabtree. I could see the Raiders taking Maclin over Crabtree. If we somehow traded down to 13 and got Crabtree, I would pee my pants.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 23, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions

I would be like YEAHHH!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 24, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

If we got Crab, not if u peed ur pants. Just clearing that up

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 24, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Just don’t even speculate as to who likes who and who really wants what this time of year. The draft often ends up being completely different than everyone thinks it will.

Teams are leaking information. Teams are leaking misinformation. Teams are sending out smokescreens. Teams are sending out smokescreens of smokescreens. Teams are sending out real information because it will look like a smokescreen.

by rufio on Apr 23, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions

My biggest thing is everyone getting in a mindset on where they think players should be selected and then fans overreact when they think their team has reached on a guy because the “experts” had him going ten picks later. I am going to put my faith in Mangini to select the best player for the team, and then once he has established some sort of track record, I will evaluate him

by Roger Dorn on Apr 23, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions