Cleveland Browns 2009 NFL Draft Day 1 - Open Thread / Live Blog

by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT in General News Comment 625 comments

It's Day 1 of the NFL Draft, and for Cleveland Browns fans, this year's first day will be a lot more exciting than last year's. In 2008, Phil Savage's various trades led to the Browns not having a Day 1 pick. This year, we are what I would consider stacked with Day 1 picks:

Cleveland Browns Day 1 Picks:

Round 1: No. 5 overall
Round 2: No. 36 overall
Round 2: No. 50 overall

The draft will begin promptly at 4:00pm EST, with the Detroit Lions on the clock. Hopefully they do not waste any time announcing their pick, since they have already signed QB Matthew Stafford to a deal. In essence, the draft should start with the St. Louis Rams on the clock at No. 2 overall.

Teams will have 10 minutes to select in Round 1 and 7 minutes to select in Round 2. By my estimates, that means the Browns should be on the clock for their first pick from about 4:35pm to 4:45pm. I will be providing live blog coverage up until the Browns' first round pick. After that, I may not be back until around 10:00pm unfortunately.

Dawgs By Nature LIVE BLOG of Day 1 of the 2009 NFL Draft:

1:05 PM: Early morning rumors are circulating over the Internet again that the Browns will select QB Mark Sanchez, and then trade QB Brady Quinn. I don't see it happening -- why would it make sense either?
1:10 PM: I always like reading what Scott Wright of NFLDraftCountdown has to say in his mock draft. They have the Browns going all defense on Day 1, with LB Aaron Curry at No. 5, LB Larry English at No. 36, and S William Moore at No. 50.
2:05 PM: Mocking Dan wonders why several popular draft "experts" have skyrocketed the projection of DE Tyson Jackson to No. 3 overall. I believe I also read a rumor yesterday that the Browns might be interested in him at that point. If we pick him at No. 5, it'd be a disappointment, considering I'd rather have Orakpo or Raji.
2:15 PM: JasonB, our Philadelphia Eagles blogger who is LIVE at the NFL Draft, has provided a photo of the area surrounding him today:

That's how close our guys are to the action! Besides Dawgs By Nature, be sure to visit Mocking the Draft, Mile High Report, and Bleeding Green Nation for what should be some amazing coverage related to the draft. Almost every NFL SB Nation website is also live-blogging the draft, so feel free to check out the entire network of site throughout the weekend.
2:20 PM: The comedy routine just keeps on getting funnier guys: Steve Wyche of NFL.com is reporting that the Browns and Giants have not discussed a deal involving WR Braylon Edwards for weeks. Wyche also reports that he is hearing that it would be a huge surprise if QB Brady Quinn gets dealt.
2:50 PM: A little over an hour away now! QB Matt Cassel received a 6-year contract today with $36 million guaranteed. That's what Belichick does for you, I guess.
2:52 PM: One of our sources at the draft overheard Yahoo's Jason Cole state that the Panthers aren't finding any interest in DE Julius Peppers.
3:09 PM: The good guys are now on Sirius Radio, as we're less than an hour away from the draft: Gil Brandt and Adam Schein in particular.
3:12 PM: Brandt believes that either WR Anquan Boldin or WR Braylon Edwards will be moved today.
3:17 PM: Turf Show Times is digging and believes the New York Jets and the Washington Redskins are both pushing hard to move up (probably for Sanchez).
3:21 PM: Sirius projects that DE Tyson Jackson or LB Aaron Curry will be the first defensive player off the board. It was stated that Curry could be there at No. 5 for Cleveland, but that Jackson could be a surprise first (defensive) pick at No. 3. Not such a surprise though if it's being talked about ahead of time, eh?
3:39 PM: Mocking Dan reports via a source that the Browns are not involved in any trade talk.
3:43 PM: To update on the previous statement, Dan states that this means "[no trades] in general. No trade talk at all." In other words, not only is there nothing about the No. 5 overall pick, but there is nothing about Edwards or Quinn either. That could change in a heart beat when Cleveland is on the clock though, I'd imagine.
3:46 PM: It just irks me when the fans live at the draft do nothing but BOO whenever a pick gets made. Seriously -- what the hell is the point of booing?
3:47 PM: Deion Sanders is introducing some of the top prospects right now.
3:54 PM: Pat Kirwan and Gil Brandt believe Braylon Edwards will be traded. No real concrete sources behind that; just their opinions. According to JasonB, some press guys are now speculating that the Rams could take Sanchez.
3:55 PM: New Open Thread over at Mocking the Draft.
4:00 PM: From our SB Nation sources: "Just got a tip that the Eagles may have turned their attention from Boldin to Braylon Edwards…"
4:05 PM: QB Matthew Stafford officially picked by the Lions, as the draft is underway! The St. Louis Rams are now on the clock.

Picture of the teams' draft tables above.
4:15 PM: The Rams pick is in, and here comes the announcement: it's Jason Smith, indeed. The Chiefs are now on the clock at No. 3. They are a candidate to select Curry, but Jackson has been rumored to them as well.
4:20 PM: The latest crazy rumor from our Eagles blogger: "Hearing some crazy rumors about the Eagles sending #21 and Shawn Andrews to Cleveland for the Browns #5 overall and Braylon Edwards. Seems very farfetched to me."
4:25 PM: DE Tyson Jackson is picked by the Chiefs. I have no idea how his stock rose so quickly, but credit to Kiper and company for making that projection correctly at the last second I guess. Curry is now that close folks -- only the Seahawks are ahead of us.
4:34 PM: What a bummer, as the Seahawks do indeed take LB Aaron Curry. The Cleveland Browns are now on the clock.
4:41 PM: BREAKING NEWS: The Browns have traded the No. 5 overall pick to the New York Jets! Waiting for reports on the full deal.
4:43 PM: With the pick, the Jets take QB Mark Sanchez. Funny how Eric Mangini ends up doing a deal with his former team.
5:10 PM: Officially, "Cleveland traded its first-round selection (5th overall, used to select Mark Sanchez) to the New York Jets for their first- and second-round selections (17th and 52nd overall, respectively), Kenyon Coleman, Brett Ratliff, and Abram Elam."
5:12 PM: Can't believe the Raiders passed up on WR Michael Crabtree earlier for WR Darrius Heyward-Bay. Now the question will be this: could Crabtree, Orakpo, or Raji be on the board when we pick at No. 17?
5:15 PM: Won't be Raji, as he just went to the Packers.
5:25 PM: WR Michael Crabtree goes to the 49ers. I'll unfortunately have to leave in a few minutes, but rufio should be here to keep the posting (but probably not the live-blogging) active the rest of the day until I get back.
5:26 PM: I guess you know it's hot when a huge wasp suddenly flies by your window as you are typing.
5:27 PM: GO BROWNS!!!

This is also an open thread for ALL of today's action! Please try to refrain from creating individual threads that state what you specifically think about a pick -- that's what this post and any subsequent posts that I or rufio make are for. With that said, if a late-breaking trade appears while I'm gone, feel free to make a FanPost about it until either rufio or myself have the chance to make a front page post about it.

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That mock draft seems pretty dumb. We dont need two OLBs. Plus we have some needs on offense

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions

I actually would like two LB’s, we are very weak at the position. Curry is considered to be versatile and able to play ILB and OLB

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Curry at #5, otherwise trade down. 2 OLBs and a SS sounds great

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by jerseywahoo on Apr 25, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions

If we get Curry, I will do a little jig

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions

seconded

by APV on Apr 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I might do a little something more than a jig, but I won’t go into details… :-X

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

does he play outside for us?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I would probably play him inside if I were coaching. You never know though; he looks good going forward, so he could play outside too and maybe rush the passer.

Eventually, I would move him around in different packages, too.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

All this talk of picking Sanchez and trading Quinn, I haven’t heard much about the financial ramifications. If Sanchez is getting a Matt Ryan type contract, that’s gotta be a lot more than Quinn, who was a 20-something pick with a contract based mostly on incentives alone. Isn’t this a huge factor, the difference in money?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions

Definitely. Especially after seeing Stafford’s contract. For the life of me, I just see ZERO upside to taking Sanchez and then dumping Quinn.

I guess the only reason to take Sanchez is if we use him as bait and trade him during the first round. But…that really seems like us going out of the way for much more trouble than it’d be worth.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

The draft is a little over a half hour away…are we going to get some more commenters in here then? :-)

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions

Unfortunately my TV set is away from my computer, but I will be stopping by periodically

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions

However, I have a sneaking suspicion that if Edwards or Quinn is traded, this board will explode with comments

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Heh, indeed. I’m at my computer with Sirius radio on; don’t have ESPN or NFL Network.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I can see my bigscreen from my computer so im in good shape. OH YEAH

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I would be ecstatic with Curry. I’d be ok with Crabtree. I could swallow Orapko. I would roll my eyes at Raji. I would puke and cry at Sanchez.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions

That could be interpreted as you liking Orakpo the most.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions

haha… I like to be ambiguous.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Ten minutes away from the draft, and [presumably] about 45 minutes away until the Browns are on the clock!

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions

You know what’s weird? How we develop rooting interests for certain players to be drafted, despite having never seen them play or, often not even knowing they existed until the last few months, not to mention that we know that the firstround is full of flameouts and disappointments. I remember reading the SI writeup of Tommy Vardell when he was coming out of Stanford and just hoping and hoping that he’d be the Browns’ pick. When they drafted him I was ecstatic. So it goes.

Now Terry Pluto has me rooting for Curry (what a great guy!) and some receiver from UNC (Hakeem something) and I will be thrilled if we get them, and crushed if we don’t …

That said, maybe this draft changes everything. Get some help in the secondary on the D-line!

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions

eh, depends on how much college ball you watch, i guess.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, you’re right here – many of the players are strangers to me. i follow the buckeyes and the pac-10, that’s about it. those usc linebackers are tough, i’ll tell you that.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Are you guys going to be watching on ESPN or the NFL Network?

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

espn. Mel Kiper.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions

espn

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Here comes Roger Goodell.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions

My gut reaction on Stafford: blah.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions

he looks like a dork

by Locnar on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

so do pennington and garcia

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Not only do i feel pity for the Lions, but now I have some hatred towards them for agreing to that huge deal. They have now screwed the rest of the Top 10 to fork out extra money because of that ridiculous $41.7M guaranteed.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Did you gusy see the signed Jurevicious Browns jersey in the intro when they showed Sanchez …… hope that isn’t a sign.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions

Jason Smith is who they are talking about to the Rams right now.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions

makes sense.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Their pick should be “in” in a minute or two.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

yep it was smith

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

not a big shock with this one

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

But the KC pick … it now gets more interesting

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions

im holding my breath for the next 7 minutes

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m holding mine for the next 27

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

shall we call the paramedics then? you could be dead and not know it …

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Big pick for us here. KC could determine a lot of what happens next.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions

thats an understatement

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

just 1 minute left

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Just wanna say im so glad i found this blog because its a lot of fun having a conversation with people who know what they are talking about. I hope you all are glad i found this site too

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

welcome. I haven’t been around too much in the offseason, but this site is pretty great.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

ive been here for a few months now actually

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Cool. Like I said, I haven’t been around too much since the end of the season. I need a NFL break after the SuperBowl. And I needed a Browns break after the ManKok hiring fiasco.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

JasonB (our Eagles blogger at the draft) is hearing more crazy rumors:

“Hearing some crazy rumors about the Eagles sending #21 and Shawn Andrews to Cleveland for the BRowns #5 overall and Braylon Edwards. Seems very farfetched to me.”

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions

I’ve heard that exact rumor this past week from WKNR. I just don’t get it.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

WOw.. makes things interest

by Locnar on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Good lord please no. We’d need some picks with that, too.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I think we get the shaft in that deal …. big time

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I dont buy it. Mangini is smarter than that

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll just assume this is a nonsense rumor.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

If we got an extra pick I would be all for that.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Two minutes left for the Chiefs to pick.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

So if we pass on Raji and the Bengals take him, that means every AFC North team would have a dominant NT.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

It’d be the Bengals luck that Raji would be a complete bust.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

that would be our hope

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I have a comp for Raji- Gerard Warren.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Someone convince me I’m wrong. Please.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I have the same thought. Raji was fired from a KMart for not working hard enough. KMart. I’m sure Mangini loved hearing that.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Heh…I thought about saying that, but don’t know enough about Raji to fairly say that.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

The Chiefs pick is in…Sirius guys are predicting Jackson, as stated earlier.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions

YES

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

that it is ….. swesome for us

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! AARON CURRY HERE WE COME!

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

Seattle will take Crabtree or Monroe for sure?

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

or Sanchez.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Nothing for sure today.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

best quote of the day

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Chiefs pick Tyson Jackson.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

Come on Seattle, you know you want a QB or LT! Or Raji.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

or Crabtree too

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

AARON CURY! YOU all should see the smile on my face right now!

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Well it looks like we are going to have our choice of the guys we all like

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

2 of them for sure. The draft won’t be made or broken with this pick, though. Those 2nd rounders will be huge.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I can’t celebrate like you guys are doing yet…heading into the day, I feared Seattle had a better chance of taking Curry than KC.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

This is still the best possible situation we could ask for right now, though. One of Curry or Cratbree will be there for sure. Monroe, Sanchez, Raji, Orakpo also available. Lots of trade opportunities.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

But I agree that Curry isn’t a lock.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Sanchez-for trading down
Curry and Crab – cuz they are beast

at least two of them will be there

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions

berman just said seahawks will take curry fo sho

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions

Micheal Smith just told me that the Browns are switching to a 3-4 under Mangini. Awesome.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

I caught that too. I muted him and turned the floor over to Woody Paige.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

3 minutes…

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

Michael Smith just said we were switching to a 3-4 under Mangini … duh, we had a 3-4 under Crennel as well

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions

Come on Sirius, get back from commercial already…

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions

If you can’t strike a deal now, take Sanchez and strike the deal later. There are plenty of teams that want him

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Seattle’s pick is in…Sirius projects an “impact player”. They are unsure of who it’ll be…they speculate Crabtree.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Damnit

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

&#($@#^($^(#*$^#($^@#($^(#$^(^$(^

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

I heard the pick 10 seconds after you posted it, but thanks for the early warning.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

any time.

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

shit

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

crap…

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

mark sanchez here we come….

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

We take Sanchez

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Please no. I really hope all that QB nonsense was just smoke.

Can we just have a settled QB situation one of these years, even if the guy isn’t great?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I want the Browns to draft Sanchez, but we better not leave NY with him.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Fair.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

GEt THE **** OUT OF THAT PICK!!

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

Phones should be ringing off the hook right now.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions

BOOOOOOO

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

We should take Sanchez and let the offers roll in. The Browns could take control of the top of the first half of this draft.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions

I totally agree with this. Take the trade chip (Sanchez) and cash it in later

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope we hear “a trade has been made” in the next few minutes.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I can get behind this…

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Seattle’s LB corps could be sick nasty. They certainly will have a lot of money in it. A franchise-tagged LB, Tatupu, and the 4th overall pick? $$$$$

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions

at least we get some erin andrews viewage today

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions

NFL Network says something is brewing.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

trade-wise.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

though they may be blowing smoke.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

so, how confident are we that the browns won’t screw this up? please don’t screw this up!

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

Kinda hard to screw it up, at least from where we are today. Maybe the pick busts, but we don’t know that for a year or two at least.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

ESPN listed Andra Davis as a “key departure”.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

Awesome.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Just no Raji. Please, God, no Raji.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

TRADE

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

YES

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

woohoo

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

YES!!! YES!!!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

YES!!!!

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

YES! JETS TRADED UP!

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

YEAH!

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by Zorgon on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

I HEARD WE TRADED DOWN WITH THE JeTS!

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

j-e-t-s jets jets jets

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

What did we get

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

no idea yet

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

keep me posted

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Jets trade for Sanchez.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions

Well Mangini sure is using that jets connection to its fullest

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, I wonder how many people are whining about signing former Jets right now.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

WTF DID WE GET!?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

“presidential”???

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

im dancing right now

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

i’m guessing 1 and 2…per speculation

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions

Has to be something else. Next year pick also

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey Chris

My source apparently is a turd.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

Heh, it’s okay ;)

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe we just got a deal we couldn’t refuse? What did your source say?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

He was saying the Browns were involved in no trades at all. Ah well. Gotta love the draft.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

watch espn

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Don’t the deadlines motivate everything today?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

No report on what we got yet, but so everyone knows, the Jets did have the 17th overall pick.

Sanchez selected by the Jets.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

you have to think washington was involved too and they were at 13 i think…has to be a decent haul

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Why do you have to think that?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

because you HAVE to

…or else

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

ok, u don’t have to, but i think that

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I am so happy I could kick my dog.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions

thats what u do when you are happy?

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

and when I am mad. My dogs life sucks. I’m kidding after all.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

We now can look at Cushing, Mauluaga, Jenkins, Maclin, Maybin. I am so happy.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Beanie, Jenkins….Best available player baby!

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Gary Horton on espn.com sez “I’m guessing the Jets gave up a lot”

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Ha!

Should take a ton of picks to make that move.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow great deal for the Browns!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

Got a back-up QB, D-lineman depth, and a safety that we signed plus two picks! Great trade!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

DEAL:
JETS GET- #5
Browns GET- #17, Jets 2nd, Colemen, Ratliff, Elam.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

Pumped about Elam along with the picks!

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too! I think Mangini sees him as a starter.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

z

holy cow we got a ton!!!

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

That’s why no one trades up

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i like it

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions

this is awesome

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

We got Elam. Like it. Pretty big coup.

1st and 2nd.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Deal is this year is
#1, #2, DE Kenyon Coleman, QB Brett Ratliff and Elam

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

abram elam, ratliff and their second to trade down

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

wow! Kenyon Coleman, Brent Ratliff, #1 and #2 this year, Elam

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

wow. i’m impressed.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

Kenyon Colvin, Brett Ratliff, Abram Elam, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick in 2009 is what we got I think?

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

How are those other Jets?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

Hells yeah, we swindled!

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by Zorgon on Apr 25, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

im concerned were not going to have enough quarterbacks this year

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by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

am guessing we won’t be looking at Freeman later …. I hope they still consider Pat White to be another slash type tho

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m breaking from my live blog briefly to write a short post on the trade guys. Continue discussing here!

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

Here is a quick scouting report on Coleman;

Comment: Coleman is a six-year veteran who has great size, durability and strength with above-average athletic ability. He is powerful to hold the point versus the run and shows natural strength to split double teams. He tends to catch too often, but has improved his hand use to extend and lock out on blockers. He is best between the tackles because he doesn’t appear to have great range in pursuit. He is limited with his pass-rush moves and counters. Coleman tends to rush down the middle of his opponent too often and needs to expand his hand use and pass-rush package. He appears to have improved his reactions as plays unfold. He feels pad pressure well and constricts running lanes. He shows decent initial pop to stymie blockers at the line of scrimmage and has a powerful lower body to flash decent bull rush. Coleman was a career backup before landing in New York and performed well enough to solidify his starting position. He is best aligned as a five—technique rather than inside over the guard in even fronts.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

no link, but some analysts think that 2nd round picks are better value. this is a win-win for the brownies. how about that!

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

is getting ratcliff a clue we are trading away anderson

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions

I think it is trade insurance.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey guys, just showed up from the OSU Spring Game. Glad to see we traded down, sounds like we got a good deal. Hopefully getting Ratliff means we’re trading DA. There should be a lot of good players available at 17, and now we have 3 second round picks.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions

By the way, Pryor looked awesome today. He made a few really nice throws including 2 long TD passes. He’s gained about 7-8 pounds of muscle this winter. I’m so looking forward to watching him play this fall.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Word. I watched online and was very impressed. Especially using the slants/posts down the middle of the field.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions

OL needs work.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Yall better beet the wolverines. I might root for u all in that game

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

i got to Troy

we would have beat yall if Pryor wasnt such a freak

hes a genuine stud, yall are nasty with him

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by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think it will be a problem. Not this fall, but next fall, michigan will challenge again, I think.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, it will take a couple years. Their roster is so depleted.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

ND and OSU share our hatred of michigan

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, but a couple our our best guys didn’t play. Saine had some nice runs — I’d love for him stay healthy and see what he can do.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s been tearing it up all spring. He is finally healthy as you note. Him and Boom should be RB by committee. It will be interesting to see if J. Berry gets any PT, and if Jackson or the other Frosh WRs can make some plays. WR = deep. If the OTs can hold down DEs and recognize the stunts/slants our O will be fine. I want to see Sabino completely take the MLB role.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, we have a lot of talented WR, we just need a couple to step up. I think Posey can be that guy.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

LeBron in cleats.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, it’s crazy seeing him on the field — he’s just so big. He’s taller than the lineman.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Now we filled the safety need, backup QB need, and we got a DE( but i wouldnt mind gilbert or marks in the second

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

Bengals

Now they have another guy that has a good chance to flop

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

Just a side discussion, if Chris Wells is there at 17, anyone else warming up to that idea? I would be happy with Beanie at 17 and then get a C, and two defensive players in the second.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

I’d rather have a LB. Rashad Jennings in the 2nd all day.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t be horrified

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Apr 25, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d actually love that. He will be a fantastic NFL back if he stays healthy.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

If we can move DA for a 2nd rounder, this will be an unreal draft.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

Who needs a QB? Tampa?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, please.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

yes that would be ridiculus

and not completely unreasonable

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

this would be great and you’d think that one of DA or Braylon gets traded. Might have to wait until the Philly and NYGiants picks to find out.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Not advocating it, but can you imagine if we were to deal edwards for NYG 1 and ? and Hixon…talk about starting over. Our team would be ridiculously young with all the picks we acquired

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

I’d like to keep Edwards, but for the right deal, he can be moved imo (and discussed at length here)

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I am advocating it…

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

No first rounder or Kiwi, no BE. Simple as that.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

So now we got 90 minutes to wait for our pick …. sure hope the BE and DA phones are on fire for those 90 minutes.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

WOW!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

dont think anybody saw that coming

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

Are you determined to post 100% sarcasm today?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

did you see it coming?

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

stop with the subject lines please

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

now i remember why i dont post here more.

you guys are incredible

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

but you must have seen that coming, right? ;)

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

right :D

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Is it really that hard to not use the subject line? It’s annoying and distracting.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

no, but its just the way you guys ask.

I post very regularly at several SBnation blogs and this is the only one I post at that doesnt use subject lines. Ive had no problems anywhere but here, or else I would think it was me.

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Is it really that bad for a one-liner?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

who cares

peace and love and football

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I was asking Brad. I don’t find it that egregious for a one-liner.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Not really, I guess. But I didn’t say anything about his comment, I was just responding why we don’t use subject lines.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I messed up. I was asking talonk.

I am going to quit while I am behind here.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

no probs, was just trying to ease Buckeye Brad’s burden of policing the site …. my apologies troy

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

4.3 40 + Al Davis = draft pick.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

hhahahahahaha

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

Al Davis=stupid

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

crab might be there at 17

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

zzz

holy cow…..raiders take heyward bey?

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

wtf what if maclin gets picked next and we still get crabtree?

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by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

we gotta get crabtree….

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

or hakeem nicks in round 2

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions

i would settle for Britt in round2

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

i would easily take nicks over britt.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I think britt can be a #1 receiver on some team. Dont get me wrong, i like nicks a lot, i just prefer kenny britt

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

And the Raiders pull another shocker (sort of) …

Al Davis falls in love with those fast WR/CBs

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions

I can’t believe they took him over Maclin and Crabtree. That’s so stupid. He’s going to be another bust.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

i no

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

This is why the Raiders pick in the top ten every year.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

This is awesome.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

I love this day!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Man, someone tell me about the players we got. DL, supposed starter, and a young qb (goodbye DA?), and a safety? Is the S good?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions

we tried to sign him but the jets signed him on the last day becuase he was an RFA. Remember him now?

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Ah, thanks man.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Supposedly an above average athlete, but plays best “in the box” or coming forward. 6’ish, 205ish, good compliment to Pool, more potential than Adams, just from the ESPN scouting rept.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Many thanks, Rufio.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions

No doubt.

He is also from Kent St. if you care about that sort of thing.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Ha, I do not. Coleman’s 30. Abram’s 27. We gave up a future #1 for Quinn to move up. Anybody think we maybe took a little less just to get out of the spot? (which I wouldn’t really mind at all)

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I think we got depth in needed areas and added a second rounder. I love it.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Plus we may even get a guy we still really liked at 5, and pay him a lot less.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

yea orakpo will probably be there.

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

8. Jags Monroe
9. Pack Raji
10. 49ers Orakpo

How low does Crabtree have to get before we jump back up?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions

Would the Niners take him? I’ll bet the Redskins would at 13.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

They might. The 9ers blog thinks he is the next big bust.

They also need a pass rusher bad.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

nice call

maybe Crabtree is this year’s Quinn

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

not sure i’d even take him at 17, if the diva rumors are accurate

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

If he is there at 17 I may poop my pants.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Those are just rumors, you can’t trust that. Crabtree will be a STUD. I want him!!

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, they are just rumors, yet he’s dropping.

Yes, he was an amazing college wideout, but we can’t be sure he’ll be a stud in the NFL: First round WR’s are as likely to flop as they are to succeed, just ask the Lions.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions

what pick did the vikes us for randy moss? 20’s? could happen again.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Any chance we can get maybin

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions

Monroe has a strahan gap in his teeth

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions

Monroe it is

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Apr 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions

anyone think if we dont trade up that we might take Chris Wells at 17?

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions

I can dig this.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Am betting we take a LB at 17

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions

So far I give this draft an A+++

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions

i love the unpredictability thus far

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Raji to the packers

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

Raji is going to the Packers

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

great call for them: NT for that new 3-4.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn BJ Raji sweats alot

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions

hes a big dude

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

must be how the OL can’t hold on to him, his sweat is the new anti-stickum

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions

i noticed that as well

that dude was rubbing his head so much i was like “thats frickin disgusting that dude needs a moist toilette.”

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by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Maualuga, Maybin, Beanie, Jenkins, Brown, Cushing, Matthews, Crabtree…any of them left would be fine with me.

Outside the top 15 is the best place to be in this draft.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

So true. This is kind of like the 2005 Draft. Sooo deep, and most of the stars were outside of the top 10.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Woah, I just posted a similar analogy.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Great minds…

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Packers get Raji while we are stuck with their former product, Corey Williams.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

Ha!

Let him get a healthy year in. Hopefully we can get some one gapping in too, which i really think will help him out.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

So, who are we getting at 17 — one of the USC LB’s, Jenkins, Maybin, Wells?

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions

Moreno?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I personally am not a fan of Moreno.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I can’t believe we got that trade. Awesome job.

The top 10 of this draft looks questionable, much like the 2005 draft. Now we can just draft kids who fall in to our lap.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope not. Id much rather have wells over Moreno and I think Wells is a little overrated.

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

And which Trojan LB do you like the best? Cushing seems the best to me but I’d be happy with Matthews. I’m not sure about Rey.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Maualuga over the other two, if only because he compliments D’Qwell so much. Exactly the type of guy we need next to him. Hopefully we can make him play with just a little bit of technique, though.

Cushing seems like a more well rounded prospect, but wouldn’t compliment DQ as much. Is Matthews a great NFL pass rusher? I don’t know enough about him.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions

this this this!

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

This tweet from Peter King intrigues me. Also, it’s just funny Peter King uses Twitter.

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions

I’m one of the few SB Nation bloggers not using Twitter.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions

f twitter

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

On Colbert, the founder said they were going to get people started using it for free, and then start charging. Enough to make me not want to use it.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Geez, just trying to contribute. The usefulness of Twitter aside, King said"Brett Ratliff is no throw-in. Mangini likes him a lot."

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

No, thanks for the info, it’s just that there are always off topic discussions in every thread.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

interesting, especially b/c king isn’t just posting stuff every few minutes. this is one of his only tweets during the draft thus far.

by macasson on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Crabtree was flashing them pearly whites on the phone

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by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

He may be smiling, but if he sropped from 4 to 10, he probably lost $6-10M in guaranteed dough

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe he’ll get an advertising deal with Subway to make up the losses

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Crabtree to the 49ers

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

Damn, I was really hoping to see him in a Browns uniform by the end of the day. Oh well, we’ll get a great player at 17.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

All of this to Rufio: I’ll be out around 5:45 PM. Can you also open a Part 2 Day 1 draft topic when this thing boils over like, 400 comments (or maybe close to the end of round 1)?

Also, I probably won’t be around for the 17th pick, so you can do the brief write-up on that too.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions

Word.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Who in front of us goes for a WR? Maybe Buffalo or San Diego? We could get Maclin at 17.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions

I doubt Buffalo. SD, maybe. Nawlins?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions

NO has to go Defense with their lack of picks don’t they?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

You would think. Not going to try to get inside anyone’s head besides Al Davis today.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I would think so. Most people have them taking Jenkins.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm…that would be intriguing. I could see the Redskins taking a WR. Or Houston.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Houston could have a pair of unreal WRs if Maclin worked out.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

they already have johnson and walter, two GREAT WRs

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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought Walter was a TE?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I think SD takes a RB

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Looks like Maybin to the Bills???

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions

Maybin to the Bills.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions

Damn, I was hoping he would fall to us. That would have been a heckuva pick.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Denver on the clock, which DL/LB do they take?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

Orakpo?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Orakpo

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

The only guys I can see are Peria Jerry to be their DE, a massive reach for a massive Ron Brace, or Orakpo or E. Brown. Not looking great for them right now? Cushing?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

See you guys later…a shame I have to step away on one of the best NFL days of the year!

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

Ha Ha, Moreno looks like he’s playing Hearts at home while he is waiting to be picked.

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions

The Broncos are a train wreck.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions

I really like Moreno, but man, am I glad we didn’t get that coach.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Starting to sound like Al Davis

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

And the AFC West takes another shocker, Knowshawn Moreno

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

Wow — Broncos pick a RB????

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

Well, Shanahan isn’t there to pick up a 5th/6th rounder who’ll get 1000+ yards

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

we could take andre hall as an FA if we cant find a RB in the draft

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

could orakpo fall to us?

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

totally overrated. i hope not.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I think he will be a good 4-3 DE

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think Orakpo falls past Wash

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

You got it

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

i think it’s a realistic possibility at this point. how great would that be?

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions

OK, obviously not.

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions

well theres the answer.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions

Orakpo to the Redskins.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions

Malcolm Jenkins maybe? Cushing?

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions

Maclin? I thikn one of those 3

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I want Rey, I admit it.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I am with you.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Do we need Jenkins with the trade for the Jets safety?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions

i thought we got two DEs?

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Coleman is a DE, Elam is a safety

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

If he’s the best player on our board. I do think I’d prefer a LB though

by Roger Dorn on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Need? No. Getting Elam was key because now we can do best player available.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d guess Cushing, Wells, or Maclin

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it comes down to Maclin, Wells, Maluagua, Cushing, Jenkins and Matthews

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions

Should definitely be one of them since only 3 can be taken ….

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d honestly be excited about any of those picks. This is turning out great.

Do you think Mangini would pick maclin over those defensive guys?

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

donald brown is an amazing back. i havent done much research, but is he a possibility in the 2nd for us?

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions

Yes. I don’t think he’s “amazing”, though.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

did you ever watch him play? i watched about 5 ucconn games and he was impressive in every single one.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Watched film.

He’s 210, and he isn’t going to be able to do what he did to Big Least D’s in the NFL.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

that guy in the steroid commercial was disgusting

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

it’s not muscle, he basically shot himself up with a synthetic material.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope with the extra 2nd, we consider the Barden kid at #52

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

Maluagua is a naildriver of a LB, this defense needs a personality.

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

Grossi has been begging the Browns to take him all offseason. That would make him happy. He wanted him at 5, which is way too high.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Thats basically my least favorite part about Rey.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m sick of agreeing with you, man!

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

My bad, I’ll just sit back from now on and hope you say what I am thinking.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

You can’t respond to sarcasm with sarcasm.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Haha.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I would not mind Rey at 17. I HATED him at 5.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

so do we have two picks in a row in the second? 49 and 50?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions

i think it is 50 and 52

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks. I just added 17 to 32.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Maualuga at 17. Larry English/Connor Barwin at 36. Loadholt/Duke Robinson at 50. Rashad Jennings with the 3rd 2nd rounder.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions

then mike wallace in the 4th

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Sure thing, Al Davis.

(j/k)

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

its different to take speed in the 4th round

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I know. Not a bad pick if you are confident you can coach him up. You definitely want more and more of those guys as it gets later and later in the draft.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I know. to me he seems like Maclin without the polish. He ran like a 4.25 or something like that and he averaged over 20 ypc

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Jenkins to Saints

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions

Real solid pick. Good luck to Malcolm.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

im gonna miss watching him in ohio stadium :-( best of luck.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Especially because I don’t like our CBs next year. I am hoping T. Howard emerges.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions

our secondary is our biggest question mark IMO….our secondary will be loaded in 2-3 years.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Losing Donald Washington was big — I was surprised he left early. Wonder where he’ll go today.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

i dont think hes going anywhere TODAY…

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions

what do you guys think about lauranitis

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions

No thanks.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions

be a alot of room under the cap at least

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

wells over little animal easily.

maybe in the second round if he somehow falls that far.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

no cushing for us

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions

maybe a possibility?

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions

Cushing to the Texans.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions

Matthews? Brown? Beanie? Jerry?

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions

beanie beanie beanie!

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Rey…

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

Hey’s on the board.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I am going to open a 2nd thread at the end of the first round. Stay Tuned.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

Ballsy.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

ENglish to chargers? wow!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

Larry English to Chargers

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

We’re up….

im hoping for beanie.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

Look at the options when you pick this low in the draft.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

Maclin, Rey, or Wells … so many choices

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

my guess...

clay matthews is too ironic

by mndogpound on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

Maclin, Wells, or Mauluaga and I will be happy as hell.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

I want Beanie, but Maclin would be great too.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

no beanie no beanie no beanie

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

i agree.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I am totally against drafting a running back here.

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

I agree

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions

me too. Rashad Jennings at 52 all the way!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Matthews plz

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

maclin os overrated

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions

no stat on how poorly the the 17th pic in the draft ends up on odd numbered days?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

If we don’t take Wells, would Detroit? That would be weird if they totally ignored their defense and took QB and RB in the first round

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions

I doubt it. Kevin Smith is promising, but had no line to run behind next year. I would go OT.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Been at a bar sporting my BQ jersey. Real pumped by the details of the trade. Best thing we could have done given that Curry went to SEA.

All I can say is….options, options, options.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

And now…more options, options, options.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

traded pick to TB

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

ANOTHER TRADE!!!!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

we trade our pick to the bucs!?>

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

and we trade to bucs?

by VABrownsFan on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

Whaa? Another trade w/TB!

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

Trade with Tampa BAY!!

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

wat did we do this time?

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

What?!

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions

another trade – pick up more picks

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

Wow …. Mangini is sounding more and more like Belechick … dropping again

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

For Freeman? That would be hilarious.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

make them throw in stovall

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

hmmm

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions

i think we still get

matthews…

by mndogpound on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

19th and their third rounder? I’m guessing here

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

Yea! Rashad JEnnings with that 3rd

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

They ‘re moving ahead of Denver to get Freeman, I’ll bet.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

3rd rounder would have been my guess…would be really happy with that.

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

6th round pick?

i dunno…

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

actually, nevermind…still good…only lost 2 spots.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions

We got a 6th rounder.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

We got a 6th rounder. I will take it.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

Christ, really, a 6th rounder?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

6th? Thats it?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

Picked up another 6th to move down two spots

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

19th and sixth round

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

We got the 191st pick.

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

A sixth rounder?!?!

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

oh, only got a 6th. not great, but Browns obviously thought they could get the same player at 19

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

exactly….my wishful thinking right now is that denver already took moreno, so wouldnt go after wells…

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

we’re only dropping 2 spots

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

Freeman to Bucs

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

I’m not wild about Freeman…I think it’s a mistake for TB

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

THats IT? Gosh at least throw in Maurice Stovall!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions

well, it was only 2 spots, and I think they’re looking for max value

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I just need them to pick, I need to go!

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

J’nathan Bullock

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

OK, no more moves. I want someone new to root for.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

ha – me, too

by drjeo on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

obviously the Browns did not want Freeman and weren’t concerned about Denver

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

Josh Freeman looks to be 12-years-old.

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

I think Denver goes Rey

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

They are saying Ayers.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

and Denver selects ……Robert Ayers, DE

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions

so says Ed Werder

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Lets trade down to 20 so we can get a 7th!(sarcasm)

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions

ESPN is reporting that Denver will go Robert Ayers at 18.

We can still get the players we want

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions

Amazingly enough, Rey, Wells, and Maclin are all still available two picks later

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions

We literally got a free 6th round pick. Honestly, hard to be upset about that.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

exactly

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

denver took ayers

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

i will unleash the rage if we trade down again

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

IT was ayers, now lets take matthews

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions

matthews? are you f’n kidding me?

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

okay... now

Matthews

by mndogpound on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

time to trade again

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

Rey, Wells or Maclin.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

echo, echo, echo

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

trade w/ philly so they get maclin & pick up a 3rd round pick

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Wells and Maclin are overrated go with Rey

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

strike that…reverse that…

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions

they need to stop talking about denver on espn who cares about cutler

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions

another trade!

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

at 19, are you kidding?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Did I mention that I love the draft?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

I do love the draft.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

haha…trade to eagles

by Nat on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe Denver already has a deal worked out for DA?

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

LO TRADED PICK TO EAGLES

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

lolwut

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

WOW …. we gotta rename Mangini ….Trader Jack

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions

AGAIN! Another 6th

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

21 and 195

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

#21

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

This has to be for Maclin. We OWN the sixth round!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

does mangini really select when to trade? wouldnt that be kokinos?

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

Kokinis. They probably are working as one person: ManKok.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Wait, seriously? What did we get this time?

I am re-writing my writeup on the pick for the 2nd time.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

looks like maclin is gone…

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions

thankfully

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

we’re going to dominate the 6th round
lots of competition for the taxi squad

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

i called it

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

rec.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

wish we got that 3rd tho…

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

The Browns will just keep trading down and have every pick in the 6th and 7th round.

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

Detroit takes Oher? That would be a nice start for the Lions

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

philly is building a nice little WR corps

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

Little, indeed.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions

that dog is freaking out

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions

We’re gonna end up with no picks until the sixth round, but we get the entire sixth round.

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions

this just in....

Browns trade 6th round for the entire 7th round….

by mndogpound on Apr 25, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions

…i’ll TAKE it!

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Detroit’s not gonna take one of our LBs, are they?

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

we should just keep trading picks back and back and into the future until finally in like the 2016 draft, we’re the only team with any picks.

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

Another trade?

by thevicar on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

Take Matthews NOW!

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

Detroit takes Pettigrew .. .another shocker

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

Interesting pick with Pettigrew. I think he’ll be good. I probably would have went Oher.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions

Rey.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Pettigrew? Should we consider OHer?

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions

I he could probably play RT. He is supposed to be a good run blocker who isn’t as mobile as a LT should be. You’d like another 15 lbs of muscle on him.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I bet we take Rey now

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions

Lions take Pettigrew, not O-line.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions

Poor Stafford. He still won’t have time to throw.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions

Exactly what i was thinking

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I think that now we are picking so low we should take Lebron

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

they always go to commercial right before we pick

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions

All 4 times!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

miami trades w us to get wells, we get another 6th

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions

i hope

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I cant tell if u are kidding

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry, i should be clear in that this what i hope happens.

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes, please do that.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Ravens board is ticked at Detroit for taking Pettigrew … also that FanPost by Orange Helmats is a Raven Troll named Mr. Malor (he just admitted it was his alter ego…… can we remove that post?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions

Flag it for Chris/Brad

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Will do.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Pat Kirwan on Sirius seems to think Everett Brown is in the mix

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions

as he should be.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions

ALEX MACK WTF

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

Interesting

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

Cal Bears

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

MACK? NOOO! REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHCh

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

Alex MAck??? Really?

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

whoo hoo...

Yes… 21st … Alex Mack…

by mndogpound on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

mack????

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

Huh??? Now?

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

I KNEW it!

by JustBob on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

WHat the hell?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

At least that screws the Steelers lol

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

i went to Stanford / Mack is one of the few Bears I would support

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions

uhhhhh…..

by TonyH on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions

Hmmm… still shitty LBs.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions

I didn’t say so earlier, but as soon as they started moving down, I started thinking they’d firm up the middle of the O-line

by JustBob on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions

I loved his show on Nickelodeon.

by exposition on Apr 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I am very nonplussed by this pick.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions

I love Mack, but I think we could have gotten him in the second.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions

or Antoine Caldwell

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

in the second, that is

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry, forgot subject lines

dont mean to frustrate/annoy/roid rage anyone

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Mack is the clear cut center to have from this draft. Caldwell…meh.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions

Matthews or Barwin will hopefully be there at 36

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions

Sellers of Pot in MN rejoice!

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions

i like the pick. We need a center, hopefully Matthews will be there at 36

by dvd1204 on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

Mack would have gone at 22 or 30

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

rather 32 to Steelers

by palcal on Apr 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions

great pick by minnesota…they have Peterson and now harvin to stretch the field.

by wendigo on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

I’m disappointed. I thought we could address Center at 36 better than LB.

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by kwoog on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

am worried Rey goes to the Ravens, he’ll thrive in that D

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

We're sitting on him

But if Wells falls, we’re calling Arizona for Boldin.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Apr 25, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I think this is your play as well.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions

And I was completely wrong.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Apr 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Yup

Me too, but Oher was great as well.

My best game plan is to sit on the bench and call out specific instructions like 'C'mon Boog,' 'Get ahold of one, Frank,' or 'Let's go, Brooks.' -Earl Weaver

by Baltimo on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

We called a meeting with Sanchez so we could create a smoke screen and end up with Mack?

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions

they had to do that to generate desperation for those that want sanchez. they just kept moving down to get picks & create organizational depth. not a bad strategy, just wish we took the LB

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions

You guys will love Alex Mack

He is actually one of the best linemen, not just centers around. Never missed a game for Cal, and they always had 1200 yard rushers with him blocking.

Type in Alex Mack 2008 highlights into Youtube; the video was just posted today.

by MinerNiner on Apr 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions

Thanks for the insight. I wanted him to be a Brown, but I wanted him in the 2nd. Either way, I jope he is a Pro Bowler

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks. Of the few Cal games I got to see, he definitely jumped off the screen.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Dude can do the splits! He gets leverage Pac-10 defenders had voted him the best OL two years in a row. Rey Maualuga has said that he was the best player had played against some time last year. I wish I was able to link his highlight video from my computer for you guys, but I have no idea how to do so from a Mac; but that’s another discussion.

by MinerNiner on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I have got to think that ManKok are getting some pretty valuable insight into the draft methods of a lot of NFL teams. They had to be inside the heads of at least the 3 teams we traded with, if not a few of the teams between 17-21.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions

I’m good with the pick.

My personal thing is that the whole game flows from the O-line. It can never be too good.

PS: SBnation kicks my computer’s ass. :(

by doowop on Apr 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions

Ravens trade up to get Oher? not a LB …. I like the Oher pick, but I really expected them to go D

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions

Where do they put him on the Oline? Shift someone inside to make up for Jason Brown?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions

The longer Rey lasts, the happier I get

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions

You guys got a future Pro Bowler in the NFL. He’s won the Morris Award twice for best OL in the Pac-10 (as voted on by the DEFENSIVE LINEMEN of the Pac-10). He’s the hardest working guy you’ll ever meet and was a state finalist WRESTLER in HS. He also won the ‘Academic Heisman’ — the Draddy Award.

His best quality is that he plays snap to whistle EVERY PLAY.

You can check out his highlights at www.californiagoldenblogs.com

You’ll love him.

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions

Stay thirsty

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

His best quality is that he plays snap to whistle EVERY PLAY.

Gotta love that up in Cleveland.

Also love former wrestlers as OL.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Also, in his best game in his career, he ATE UP Sedrick Ellis (7th overall pick last year) and did not allow him to make a single tackle.

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Also his biggest negative from scouting reports is he is sometimes overly aggressive

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions

Michael Oher, the next player to face Kamerion Wimbley’s run around pass move. Be afraid, be very afraid.

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions

I feel that he comes off the board pretty soon.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Once again, the Ravens got a guy who doesn’t just want to win, he needs to win.

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions

What did NE get in the trade?

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

just saw that cincy waived former buckeye kirk barton on thursday. do we give him a look?

by lenred on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions

He signed with the Lions.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Man, Wells and Rey are dropping way farther than I thought

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

Good pick by Atlanta.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

Jerry is the kind of guy we want at RDE if you are watching ESPN and can see him jump off the line.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Peria Jerry to the Falcons

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

I’m surprised Beanie, Rey Malauga and Everette Brown are still on the board.

So where does Beanie go now? Who needs a RB?

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions

Am I the only person who thinks that BE is a Brown on Monday?

by Bernie19Kosar on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions

no i agree or we would of had to at least of went earlier for newer talent

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Proving what? He can be traded post draft.

by elsandito on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I bet Miami takes Wells and NE takes Rey

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions

hey

how many picks do we have and what are they?

by Brownsfan87 on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions

we have 9 left

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

Wells, rey and matthews still there, and so are nicks, britt, brown and barwin

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

we may get one of them at 36

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions

that was my hope

Alex Hall for President

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I was wrong, Dolphins took Vonte Davis

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

Miami is taking Vontae Davis.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

rufio … time for a new thread?? this one is over 600 now

by talonk on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions

I agree, this one is getting slow.

by Buckeye Brad on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Sounds good. Gimme a sec.

by rufio on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions

2 Pick 4 (36)
2 Pick 18 (50) From Bucs
2 Pick 20 (52) (From Jets)
4 Pick 4 (104)
6 Pick 4 (177)
6 Pick 18 (191) (From Buccaneers)
6 Pick 22 (195) (From Vikings through Eagles)

by billyv23 on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions