Quick Decision: Donte Stallworth Suspended Indefinitely by the Commish
And I thought it might take awhile to hear from Roger Goodell. Just two days after Donte Stallworth's case reached a ruling, the NFL Commissioner stepped in. All of the following was written to Stallworth in a letter from Goodell (note: this is not the letter in its entirety):
"The conduct reflected in your guilty plea resulted in the tragic loss of life and was inexcusable."
"While the criminal justice system has determined the legal consequences of this incident, it is my responsibility as NFL commissioner to determine appropriate league discipline for your actions, which have caused irreparable harm to the victim and his family, your club, your fellow players and the NFL."
"There is no reasonable dispute that your continued eligibility for participation at this time would undermine the integrity of and public confidence in our league."
Was does indefinite mean for Stallworth? A decision on that should be made in the near future, after Goodell contacts Stallworth's representatives. When Pacman Jones received an indefinite suspension last year, it ended up being only a six-game ban. Of course, the offenses are not necessarily comparable here.
UPDATE (8:36 PM): The OBR has some more details here.
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drjeo (Topic Starter)
Goodell penalizes Stallworth heavily. It was just reported on STO that Commissioner Goodell has given Dante Stallworth an indefinite suspension without pay. The letter to Stallworth apparently said that his conduct was indefensible, and was a detriment to the league, his team, and his teammates. I wonder if we can now look for the Browns to release him in the near future. I expect that we’ll see the full text of the letter very soon. For those who thought that Stallworth’s punishment in the courts was too lenient: does this change your view of the effect of his pleading guilty?
DontCallMeJoey
not a surprise, really. it does point out how woefully inadequate leonard little’s punishment was, if i may say so.
i was one who thought 30 days, on its face, was too lenient (understanding that we don’t have all the facts). this doesn’t really factor into my thinking on that.
Roger Dorn
My question is what does indefinitely mean….in theory it could be a one game suspension and then the NFL revisits and reinstates him
or it could be a whole season. All this decision does is annoy me because we won’t have any sort of answer until the team publicly states whether or not they plan on keeping Stallworth
Simmsinns (Reply to Roger Dorn)
An ESPN contributer said he expects it to be 1 – 2 seasons. And from what I hear, the NFL technical meaning for "indefinitely" is that the player will remain suspended until they review the situation in more detail at a date yet to be determined.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
I Suspect "Indefinite" May Very Well End Up Being A Lifetime Ban
One thing about Goodell’s punishments is they seem to follow a sense of proportion based on the crime committed. Goodell has never had to rule on someone who killed a person as far as I know, and judging from how he came down on Vick (who didn’t actually kill a human) and his stated emphasis on DUI’s I think Stallworth is going to be made a poster child for what happens when you cross that line. I would be surprised if we saw him in the NFL again.
In a way, it’s a shame…Stallworth actually owned up to what he did at the scene and apparently resolved things to the court’s and victim’s family’s satisfaction (the family reportedly didn’t want the trial at all). On the other hand, what he did was inexcusable and I think if Goodell does ban him for life it will be an appropriate punishment. Just a terrible deal all around.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
how did goodell come down on vick? he was suspended “indefinitely”, but he’s also been in jail for 2 years, so the suspension is almost redundant. what’s more, it seems as though, now that vick has “paid his debt to society” he’ll be eligible to play in ’09. whether he does is a different question, of course.
goodell’s punishments seem to allow for a shot a rehabilitation, more than anything. pacman got a second (and some would say third) chance; vick is going to get a second chance; plaxico is likely to get a second chance. now that the law has meted out their punishment, i believe goodell will tell donte to go away for some period of time (probably a year), and give him a second chance.
lifetime is very very unlikely.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And He Still Hasn't Been Reinstated
So it’s essentially a 3 year suspension, even if Vick was unavailable for that timeframe anyway.
Your point is somewhat valid about rehabilitation, but again Goodell’s previous suspensions didn’t include the suspended player being directly and admittedly responsible for the death of another person so I think this one will be longer than we’ve seen before.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
You Might Be Right About The Unlikelihood Of A Lifetime Ban
That is speculation on my part that it will be a lifetime ban.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
I think lifetime ban is severe. Ray Lewis murdered with intent and has gone on to have a long career
He should be banned for at least one season, maybe life. 30 days was way too lenient also, in my opinion. He took an innocent life because of his drinking, and that is inexcusable.
"There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes.
the stiffness (or lack thereof) of his criminal penalty should, and won’t, have any bearing on the NFL’s ultimate punishment. i would be shocked to see his suspension last more than a season.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It'll Be At Least For The Year
The point to keep in mind is that on Goodell’s previous suspensions of players, it didn’t involve the suspended player actually killing another person (even Vick’s thing didn’t measure up). I think this will be an extremely harsh suspension by NFL standards.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Based on his play on the field last year, what does it matter? He was probably Savage’s worst free agent signing ( that saw the field- not Bently).
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
It might have a small affect on our cap number, but from what I read his base salary is really low and is the only thing we would save if he got suspended for a long period of time.
I agree, though: if Romo and Massaquoi can’t pick up his sub-200 yard production from last year then we are in bigtime trouble.
Im pretty sure Romo plays for the Cowboys
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 20, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. I was just giving you a hard time
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that the criminal penalty should not factor in to the NFL suspension, but I wonder if in cases like this, where the outcome appears to be somewhat controversial, that it doesn’t in anyway cross the mind of the commissioner, and possibly tie in to the decision.
I Think It Probably Did
And I think it’s fair that it did…Goodell’s job is to protect the image of the league in the eyes of the paying customers and that’s what he did. People were upset at the perception that Stallworth got off light, Goodell issued a punishment that addressed that perception as it regards the NFL.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
If that IS the case (not totally sure that it is), it is a shame really. There’s a lot of people out there who are misinformed or don’t know a lot of the details. Several headlines seemed to try to spin it just to get a reaction.
I Think The Sticking Point Comes
When people assume that prison time is the only method of dealing with someone who’s committed a crime. Frankly, I don’t really see what prison time would accomplish in Stallworth’s case. The guy was negligent, not malicious…he didn’t intend to kill anyone when he drove drunk, and I think he’s shown some serious remorse for his actions in how he’s behaved since the accident. Punishment was merited, but is Stallworth (who had no previous criminal history) really so much of a threat to society that he needs to be thrown into prison with the people who are? Would forcing this to go to trial (which the family of the victim didn’t want) really be in the best interests of the family?
I think a lot of people, when they read these stories, tend to confuse what’s best for the victims with what they personally would prefer to see happen and the thing is that none of us are involved, it’s not really about us, so we’ve got no grounds to complain when the people involved are all satisfied with the settlement. That said, even if there hadn’t been a public outcry I think Goodell’s decision would have been fair considering the severity of the crime considering how he’s been trying to crack down on DUIs.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
The best case for inprinsonment for Stallworth is to act as a deterrent to future incidents, not necessarily by him, but as an example for everyone. Unfortunately for Donte, this is a national story, and the lack of a longer prison sentence may send the wrong message about what the consequences of drinking and driving are
The problem, though, is that the deterrent effect is negligible at best. Everyone who drinks and chooses to drive realizes that there is a potential for disaster, and the potential for a severe punishment. I don’t think there’s any evidence that those facts lessen the incidence of DUI. Everyone thinks “it won’t be me” – and most of the time they’re correct.
Everyone who drinks and chooses to drive realizes that there is a potential for disaster, and the potential for a severe punishment.
Not always. We all know the effects of alcohol can drastically hurt your decision making. Basically, if someone is drunk enough, the potential for consequence never crosses their mind. I would agree though, that nearly everyone knows the dangers of drinking and driving before they take that first drink.
Agreed
Frankly most of us cut corners at some point in our lives (not necessarily drinking and driving, but with other foolish activities) with the idea that “it won’t be me”. And, as drjeo said, most of the time we’re right. But eventually if we cut corners often enough and make bad decisions often enough we’re probably going to suffer for it…and we probably all know this. But that still doesn’t stop us from cutting corners if we think we can get away with it.
Basically, I don’t see the upside to punishing Stallworth with prison time as a “warning” to everyone else…especially since the reason he got so little prison time was that he paid pretty severely in other ways. Two years of house arrest, $5 million plus in payments to the victim’s family, drug and alcohol testing for years…those aren’t things to sneeze at. Not to mention that he’s lost his job for the forseeable future.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
I've Never Really Bought That Deterrent Argument
I think most people realize the dangers of drunken driving, and most of the time it’s stupidity and foolishness more than anything else. All the caution tales in the world can’t fix stupid.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
2 things you can be sure of: 1. commissioner goodell had A LOT more information than any of us, the news outlets, or any of the rest of the public had with respect to this case; 2. commissioner goodell does not see himself, or the NFL’s rules structure, as an adjunct judicial system, to be used to even out punishment that has been too harsh or lenient in the proper legal arena.
right, wrong or indifferent, the state legal system has made its judgement, and from here you can be sure that the commissioner will make his decisions in an NFL vacuum, without consideration for the propriety of the legal findings.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's Pretty Much It
His job isn’t to provide justice…his job is to protect the NFL brand and the image of the league. That’s what this sentence was based on. It might be somewhat related to the sentence Stallworth got in terms of the statement and the swiftness of the suspension being handed down, but I think the punishment would have been the same regardless. Goodell’s actions were completely appropriate in line with his duties as commissioner, and consistent with how he’s approached league discipline.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
That’s what this sentence was based on.
But the current “sentence” is pretty much “you are suspended without pay for now, and we will meet later to talk about your actual sentence”.
Based On How Quickly That Announcement Came Out And The Wording
I seriously doubt we’ll see Stallworth in the NFL this year, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being next year too. A two year ban for a WR at Stallworth’s age after the season he had last year is probably a career-ender.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
That’s your guess—a seemingly educated guess—but it still isn’t a sentence.
I am still guessing (based on previous suspensions and the way Goodell has handled other players who have had run ins with the law) that it won’t even be a full year.
Meant To Say "Suspension" Instead Of "Sentence" In That Excerpt You Quoted
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Precedence
I am still guessing (based on previous suspensions and the way Goodell has handled other players who have had run ins with the law) that it won’t even be a full year.
None of Goodell’s previous suspension cases involved a person dying. That ups the ante considerably. I’m 100% certain we will not see Stallworth in the league this year.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
You can be 100% certain, and it can still happen.
Thankfully, Kokiman have gone about their business like Stallworth won’t ever play for us again, and we now have enough receivers to field a good team if they don’t want him back and/or if the NFL doesn’t want him back.
Probability
I recognize and accept that it could still happen and he could be back this year…I’m just predicting that he won’t. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
I Didn't Really Have A Problem With The 30 Day Sentence
The victim’s family said they didn’t want to go through a trial, the prosecutor said he felt the situation didn’t merit one based on Stallworth’s previous criminal history (none) and the family’s wishes and Stallworth agreed to a settlement that the family was satisfied with.
That’s not to excuse what Stallworth did and nothing will bring Mr. Reyes back, but frankly he’s done about everything he could do to make amends after what happened with Reyes. The important thing is that the victim’s family is satisfied with the arrangement and I don’t really see what good additional prison time would do to anyone who was involved. The case is really about the victim’s family and the court’s discretion at this point and both seem satisfied with the outcome. And the NFL suspension adds to that. Overall I think it was handled about as well as it could have been.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Again, we don’t know the facts of the case. The ESPN legal analyst speculated that the accident and Stallworth’s drinking may not have been related. Drinking and driving is definitely inexcusable, but it’s possible that given Florida state law, that the punishment was fair
I Also Think We Should Defer To The Prosecutor's Discretion And The Victim's Family's Wishes
This is the settlement they wanted, and they’re in the best position to judge that. The family didn’t want to go through a trial, the prosecutor felt that Stallworth’s case didn’t merit a trial taking into account the family’s wishes, and the court agreed. They’re in a far better position to judge than we are.
And frankly, as long as the prosecutor, victims, and courts are satisfied with a settlement and aren’t violating the accused person’s rights in the process I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
More or Less In Agreement
But the cynic in me wonders how much of Stallworth’s signing bonuses were spread around to try and win “understanding” from the victim’s family. More power to them…
I think Goodell is doing the right thing here. If Donte Stallworth never sets foot in the NFL again, then a form of justice will have been served.
And I’d like to thank the Commissioner for removing the stain from the Browns. it would have been petty hard to cheer for Stallworth.
If Donte Stallworth never sets foot in the NFL again, then a form of justice will have been served.
I just don’t see how this has anything to do with justice. Punishment, sure, but what does justice have to do with it?
You’ll have to define what you believe to be “justice” before I can adequately respond. If you feel that what the Justice System says is “justice” is 100% valid, then you are in a minority.
I feel that justice would have been served if the state of Florida felt that the life of an innocent man was worth more than the lives of the dogs that Michael Vick brutalized.
In light of that, yes, I feel that the punishment is just. Look at it this way, in a month’s time, Donte Stallworth can return to contributing to society. The guy he killed can not.
Honestly, if he was a Raven, would any of us even give a crap about him?
Seriously.
By The Way
From the National Football Post…
“Stallworth’s negotiated settlement with the victim’s family staved off a potential wrongful death civil suit and ensured some measure of good will on the criminal side of the case. Again, we do not need to be naïve to the fact that the defendant had some financial advantages here that most defendants do not.”
Lets talk “justice” at some later date – because this case smells of the very worst aspects of the judicial system. Money has kept Stallworth away from hard time. Spin it any way you want to, if he was Buddy from the corner gas bar heading home loaded and he ran down some kid’s father… would you be worried about the "justice"of him going to prison for 10 years?
No you wouldn’t. And it really sickens me that excerpts like the one below are given any sort of credence.
God only knows the type of excuses that would be flooding this board if Stallworth was actually a good player.
On March 14, 2009, shortly after 2:00 a.m., I answered my cell phone in Hawaii and heard the following: "DC, this is bad. I hit a man."
With this simple declaration, Donte’ Stallworth described a tragedy and took personal responsibility for it. Over the next three months, Donte’ and his mother, Donna, guided this process with a simple yet profound directive: "I am responsible. Do the right thing."
I am baffled by the outcry and criticism of Donte’s punishment. In tragic circumstances such as these, our civil and criminal laws are designed to determine who is responsible and hold that person accountable. By immediately accepting his responsibility and agreeing to be held accountable, Donte’ spared the Reyes family the pain of reliving a tragedy and spared the State of Florida the expense and risks of attempting to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in what would have been a highly publicized and hotly contested trial.
Everyone who was involved in this process approved of the result: law enforcement, Florida State Court Judge Dennis Murphy, State Attorney, Katherine Rundle, the Miami/Dade County chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Driving, and, most importantly, Mr. Reyes’ family. Ms. Rundle stated that: "the unique facts involved with this charge, Mr. Stallworth’s excellent pre-incident history of community service, abundant references that attest to his good character, his lack of any traffic violations or criminal convictions, his full and complete post-incident cooperation with law enforcement, and his willingness to accept complete responsibility for his actions" confirmed that "a just resolution of this case has been reached." This is precisely how the criminal justice system in this country is supposed to work.
We have been asked to justify Donte’s sentence by comparing it to Michael Vick’s sentence. We cannot do so any better than we can explain the difference between an apple and an orange. Sometimes a difference is so obvious that describing it is illusive.
Under our system of justice, every case stands on its own merits and the facts drive the results. A major factor in this resolution was the Reyes family’s desire not to relive this tragedy through a trial, so we will not try this case in the media. However, it must be noted that given "the unique facts involved," causation was in dispute and would have been the central focus of Donte’s defense.
Critics of Donte’ punishment are essentially accusing the judge and the prosecutor of complicity in a scheme that defies description. Had we forced a trial and won an acquittal based on "the unique facts involved," Donte’ would have been exonerated, Mr. Reyes’ daughter would have been psychologically scared, and our critics would have gotten their train wreck. The public has every right to express its opinion, but judicial
determinations are based on facts and evidence.
Any assertion that financial considerations drove the result is offensive, tramples on Mr. Reyes’ memory, and is a vicious accusation about his family. Donte’ accepted his responsibility minutes after the tragedy and accepted his civil responsibility to Mr. Reyes’ family. There was no reason to delay resolution of the civil issues with the family.
Donte’ is a good person who did a bad thing. The authenticity of Donte’s remorse and good character is revealed in the consistency of his conduct throughout this tragic ordeal. From his pained acknowledgment "DC . . . I hit a man" to his statement in open court "I
offer my plea and I accept my responsibility for this tragedy," Donte’ Stallworth has consistently accepted personal responsibility for his conduct and the pain that he caused.
"I am responsible. Do the right thing."
What more could we ask?
-David Cornwell, legal representative for Donte Stallworth
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
That Is An Outstanding Release
It doesn’t excuse what Stallworth did (nothing does), but it didn’t attempt to. There’s really nothing more Stallworth could have done since he killed Reyes than what he did, short of completely throwing his life away (which isn’t an option we should expect from anyone) and his lawyer explained it well.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
I personally think it would be a shame if he gets a huge suspension, he did the right thing after making a big mistake, he didn’t run and lead a drunken high speed police chase through Miami and kill more people, damage property, etc. he was completely remorseful and threw himself at the whims of the legal system and the family of the victim, who decided that he was truly remorseful and agreed to alternatives to a lengthy trial and huge prison sentence. I think he merits an 8 game suspension and I pray that he doesn’t get cut, especially if we have a breakout season, (HA I know, but I was the crazy guy in 07 jumping up and down screaming “Yall laughed at me!” over and over.) because he has a lot of potential talent and decent speed that would really help out in the final stretch of the season.
by North Coast Flea on Jul 2, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions

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