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Eric Mangini's Rookie "Trip" Being Overdramatized by Media

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How can you tell when the news is slow? When the only thing the media has done recently about the Cleveland Browns is complain how head coach Eric Mangini's voluntary rookie trip to his football camp in Connecticut is "a form of hazing." Or, as the Plain Dealer reported via a league source, "I've never heard anything like it."

Curse you Eric Mangini -- you followed the league rules, and instituted a nice little way to get the newcomers to the team more acclimated to things they'll be experiencing throughout their NFL careers. Unfortunately, the media needs a story.

Media #1: Hmmm...we can't keep talking about the quarterback debate, can we?

Media #2: Sure we can -- this time, we'll say that since Mangini hasn't named a starting quarterback, there is validity to the thought of Derek Anderson starting!

Media #1: Sounds good...I'm going to cite you as my anonymous league source.

Media #2: Wait, hold off on that story. I just heard Mangini and all the rookies are headed out to Connecticut for his football camp.

Media #1: I smell blood.

Media #2: We'll paint it like this: rookies forced against their will to participate. Quick, find as many agents as you can and ask if they liked this scenario!

Media #1: Too late, I've already published their spite as fact.

OK, I'm sure it's not that ridiculous, but you have to wonder sometimes.

From a player's perspective, I do agree that it would have been a slight disadvantage not to participate, for obvious reasons. It might not have affected the playing time of rookies such as Alex Mack* or Brian Robiskie*, who are guaranteed roster spots, but all of those UDFAs couldn't have had that same mindset. Likewise, Mack and Robiskie can't shrug off the practice, seeing as it could come off as arrogance. If you're an avid OBR reader, columnist Rich Passan had his say on the whole scenario. I'll be the optimist and look at the brighter side of things:

*Note: I am unaware if every rookie actually participated.

Nearly 800 players in grades 8-12 attended the camp, drills and games of 7-on-7 sprawling all over the Colt Park fields between Bulkeley and Dillon Stadium along Warwarme Avenue, which was shut down.

More than 50 members of the Browns organization attended, including about 20 players. About 25 members of the Jets organization also attended, as well as many others Mangini has gotten to know during various stops in his career, including his time with the Patriots. In all, there were about 350 volunteers.

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In the future, hopefully Mangini can bring that type of experience to the Cleveland area:

On if he will do something like that in Cleveland - "I would love to. I would like to be involved in the community as much as possible. Julie (wife) is looking forward to getting involved in the community, and the more things that we can do in a positive way in this area would be great.

It's a great group of people, they have been fantastic to me, and her and our family and the coaches' families the way they have embraced us. I am excited about being able to do some things to give back."

In other news, Steve Doerschuk of the Canton Repository has a story on Browns DL Corey Williams, and his motivation to improve this season.

Poll
Do you have any problem with what Mangini did?
Yes, Mangini oversteped his boundaries
44 votes
No, it's not really that big of an issue
506 votes

550 votes | Poll has closed

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Really? 4 votes for over-stepping his boundaries? It should be 0

by Roger Dorn on Jun 2, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it’s Chris’s indirect way of figuring out which IPs to ban.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 2, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What should I do with him?

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Jun 2, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waterboarding sounds fair.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 2, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly accidentally voted for Yes. I misread the question and jumped the gun, then noticed my mistake.

by Simmsinns on Jun 2, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Malor, Rexx, Balhawk, and the Bengals guy.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 2, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way Cabot/Grossi have been covering the Browns lately is making Roger Brown’s old columns look legit.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 2, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh…I still miss dug Roger Brown’s column. Not that I agreed with him, but I almost always found it entertaining.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Jun 2, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh . . . reading Roger Brown took years off of my life that I’ll never get back.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear someone enjoyed it. I hated it. Just too much gossip for my taste: " a Browns source said…"; “Browns player bought a house in Strongsville for $675,000”; “league sources whisper…” Sheesh. I wouldn’t have been surprised to hear what Bernie’s date wore to dinner at Swingo’s.

by drjeo on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that’s all it was, a gossip column in the sports section, full of back-stabbing and rumor-mongering. Roger Brown is a perfect example of what’s wrong with the newspaper industry.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hesitant to even post this, but I don’t care; a friend’s brother-in-law, active in the Dayton-area sports media, said that his “sources” and “league executives” became a running joke, because, they flat-out did not exist.

Choose to believe me or not (i know I don’t have any proof or whatnot), as hearing from me makes that 4 degrees of separation, but I have no reason to not believe what he told me.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Granted, I didn’t enjoy it in a “this guy is earning his paycheck” type of way; I enjoyed it for laughing at things such as everything you parodied.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He forgot one of my favorites, in which any Cleveland Heights High School alum who accomplished anything involving sports was given a shout-out.

CHHS ’87 grad promoted to assistant defensive coordinator of the LeMoyne Lacrosse team? 5-sentence blurb!

Former Heights basketball player’s 35-and-over men’s rec league team advanced to the semifinals? Lead with it!

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 2, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anybody ever watched Roger Brown’s show on STO? I saw it advertised, but thankfully I haven’t ever seen it. I had wondered what happened to ol’ Roger.

by drjeo on Jun 2, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The media might be overblowing this issue, but I still think it makes Mangini look bad. Especially when he and the coaches flew there but they made the rookies take a bus. He should have either paid for them to fly too or road the bus with them.

And, I’m sorry, but the idea of this being a “voluntary” trip is ridiculous. As we all know, nothing is “voluntary” in the NFL when you’re a rookie that’s just trying to make the team or fighting for playing time. Every former NFL player said laughed at this being called a voluntary trip. It’s a nice idea what Mangini was doing but he certainly could have handled it better.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that Mangini’s people skills are not the greatest, and he doesn’t seem to get the p.r. angle, or maybe just doesn’t care about it. I just think all these stories are so overblown, as you say. They just fill space when there isn’t any real news: a possible result of the Browns’ new closed-mouth attitude toward the media. Chris did a good job of presenting a typical media discussion…probably not too far off.

by drjeo on Jun 2, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t care. It’s straight out of the Belicheat playbook

by Roger Dorn on Jun 2, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t care.

by rufio on Jun 2, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The media might be overblowing this issue, but I still think it makes Mangini look bad.

Possibly similar to the man in your profile picture not shaking hands after a playoff loss?

by rufio on Jun 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time for Brad to switch back to a Buckeyes picture.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 2, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, similar to that, except not nearly as overblown as LeBron’s non-hand-shake. You’d think he punched a baby after the game or something.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 2, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then he refused to shake the baby’s hand afterward.

by SpecialBrownie on Jun 3, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with the guy in the PD, I really have no problem with it. Its not like the Orlando guys were pissed, they were elated. Its not like LeBron denied anyone a handshake, he was just upset and didn’t want to be in the spotlight. He was just going to feed a whole bunch of non-answers to the media anyway

by rufio on Jun 3, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but now sadly the NBA is getting into it. LeBron is getting fined $25,000 for missing the press conference. Which might be a little more important than a hand shake but still completely overblown.

by SpecialBrownie on Jun 5, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think LeBron will miss that.

by rufio on Jun 6, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard he is going to ride the bus back

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 2, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for No, but I would not be suprised if this ever cost us a UDFA.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 2, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Boys and girls, the word for the day is [i]mollycoddle[/i]…

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jun 2, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like the camp was for a great cause. I am sure we all have made sacrifices in our lives. Ten hour bus trip for a good cause, and also a opportunity to pad your resume to make a NFL roster.
 This is the world we live in, everything is drama.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jun 3, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Some Jets went to

It can’t be that bad if some of the Jets and Patriots went to it (what kind of world do we live in where Jets and Patriots aren’t trying to kill each other?).

BTW, I’m a former fan who is still ticked from ‘95. I moved to Philly in 96 and grabbed the local team. I wish I could come back but I just can’t knowing the real Browns are in Baltimore (at least Ho-dell is gone).
Sorry let me wipe my tears and leave you guys alone. Good luck this year!

by Browns in NE Philly on Jun 4, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it is hazing. those poor kids at that camp were totally hazed having the browns visit. their friends at home will never let them live it down.

by raven on Jun 15, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

See, all you POS fans of other teams, this is trolling. If you want to talk football, stick around. But if 50% of your comments are this ridiculous bullsh¡t (especially when your team has had a losing season half of the last few seasons), then don’t cry when you’re banned.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Jun 15, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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