Adam Schefter Predicts Dawson Will be Gone
People and their Twitter feeds these days.
Adam Schefter, who would formerly create a buzz on NFL.com or the NFL Network, chose the social networking service to make a projection -- one that relates to a member of the Cleveland Browns.
Prediction based on what I'm hearing: Phil Dawson will not kick for Cleveland this season. He wants a new contract and there's a standoff.
We knew that Dawson originally held out of of voluntary workouts because he wanted a new contract. However, this is first I've heard of anything since Dawson returned during the minicamp sessions. Schefter is well-connected in the NFL, and while I doubt there is a swarm of sources flooding him about Dawson's situation, I don't think he would rehash an old rumor for the sake of reaching for news.
It'll be interesting to discuss the kicker situation further in a couple of weeks (according to our training camp preview schedule) with this in mind. Speaking of training camp previews, the new time for Part 2 of the offensive line preview will be some time in the afternoon on Friday. That should be plenty of time to discuss it the rest of Friday and all day Saturday, before we begin the wide receiver position the following week.
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I like Phil Dawson. I like the fact that he is the last of the “new” Browns. That being said, I don’t care if we cut him. John Carney had an awesome year for the Giants last year (35/38 with a long of 51) and is still a FA.
At the end of the day, he is still a kicker.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jul 3, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how much more money could he possibly be asking for? enough that it wouldn’t be worth having a skilled veteran around?
by Dawg Nuts on Jul 3, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point in his career, I doubt that Phil Dawson is worth the trouble. There are plenty of unsigned kickers out there who can do a decent job for a lot less money.
by gahnki on Jul 3, 2009 3:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grammar Police
Should be: “People and their Twitter feeds”
Just sayin’…
by dvbb on Jul 3, 2009 6:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, fixed now, along with another typo I had.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 3, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll be missed, he had a great run in Cleveland. I respect him for that.
Although, a kicker is a kicker is a kicker. Don’t left the door hit you on the way out.
2009 Prediction: Att - Yds - TD
Jerome Harrison 95 - 532 - 8
by Simmsinns on Jul 3, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People will find a way to hate Mangini for this.
by Roger Dorn on Jul 3, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i already do…
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 3, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need a kicker to kick the extra point for 10 TDs this season and 25 FGs. We can find an undrafted rookie to do this for the league minimum. It might cost us a game, so we will win 2 games instead of 3.
by elsandito on Jul 3, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Care to wager on the 2 win prediction?
by Roger Dorn on Jul 3, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sincerest apology for those of you not entertained by gallows humor.
by elsandito on Jul 3, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I’m about as negative as they come and barring a horrific run of injuries I don’t see how we can’t win at least 5 to 7 games this year just due to the schedule.
Regarding Dawson, how much could he possibly be asking for? I mean, he’s a kicker. Throw the poor guy his extra 100K or whatever. He’s done a pretty damn good job if you ask me.
by mgtbfb on Jul 3, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dawson….. are you kidding me? Yeah he’s pretty good, but any and every kicker can be replaced. He squeeks too many uprights anyways. Get someone young!!
by Brownie's Year on Jul 4, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dawson = best kicker in the league .
GO BROWNS!!!
by charliefryfanhaha on Jul 4, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is really about principle on Mangini and Kokinis’ parts.
Unless Phil Dawson doesn’t understand how the NFL works (or really wants to be cut), he can’t honestly be asking for an outrageous contract. I don’t think the new management would mind giving him a little more money, I just don’t think they can afford to allow this precedent to be set.
If we give Dawson a raise after protesting by sitting out a few minicamp sessions—especially as a kicker—then that just gives the message that anyone who wants a new deal can earn one by pulling something like this.
Mangini and Kokinis want to reward behaviors they think will turn the Browns into a contender—hard work, love of the game of football, improvement, passion, preparation, etc. They don’t want to reward anything close to selfish attitudes or bad behavior (like holdouts, complaints about contracts, worrying about money over how to help the Browns win, etc.).
Hopefully they combine the things they have done so far (like not giving in to players like Cribbs and Dawson who have held themselves out) with giving hard working, gluttons for preparation with raises, bonuses, and new deals.
by rufio on Jul 4, 2009 2:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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Phil Dawson is very replaceable.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 6, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t doubt that Dawson is replaceable, and I don’t think he’s the best kicker in the league. However, I think we’re being a bit sanguine about this. Too many games in the NFL are decided by a field goal to argue that the position isn’t important. The most successful teams virtually always have a top tier kicker. It’s not hard to imagine the kicker making a 2-win difference in a season, which is actually a big deal. I would like to keep Dawson for now, while acknowledging that the Browns will eventually have to bring in a younger kicker.
by drjeo on Jul 7, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice use of sanguine.
i kind of disagree about top teams having a top-tier kicker. I think a lot of what makes people think kickers are top-tier is their playoff performances (so you can’t be a top kicker without being on a good team).
The question is “how much value does Dawson have above his potential replacement?” and I am not sure it’s much.
by rufio on Jul 7, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve liked having Dawson on the team, but it has been very frustrating that he has been about the only consistent player on the team other than say, Cribbs. But maybe it’s all mojo and chicken bones. He is, after all, the one link between all of those frustrating seasons. Perhaps cutting him would break the curse. I’d hate to see him miss out if the Browns finally turn it around after all of the miserable seasons he’s had to endure, but the needs of the many ….
Seriously, it’d be kinda sad to see him go, but it is a business and giving in to him doesn’t do the Browns any good from a business standpoint. So, I hope they can kiss and make up, but if they don’t it’s not likely that his departure will crush the team’s prospects.
by JustBob on Jul 9, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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