Browns Training Camp Primer: Poll Results, Roster, and More
by Chris Pokorny on Jul 29, 2009 1:02 PM EDT
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I'm proud to have successfully completed every position preview prior to the start of training camp for the first time in Dawgs By Nature history! A lot of the motivation behind that had to do with knowing you, the users who make this site possible, would share your take on the situation. I feel a lot more up-to-date heading into training camp on players than I ever have before, and I hope some of you feel the same.
This post is intended to wrap everything up; whether you're new to the site and would like to sift through all of the previews, or if you're a regular and just want a quick refresher, there is something for everyone. I will also outline the results of the 16 training camp polls that you voted on, as well as the team's current roster.
| OFFENSIVE PREVIEWS | DEFENSIVE / ST PREVIEWS |
| Quarterbacks (6.21.09) Running Backs (6.24.09) Fullbacks (6.26.09) Wide Receivers [Part 1] (7.5.09) Wide Receivers [Part 2] (7.8.09) Tight Ends (7.10.09) Offensive Line [Part 1] (7.1.09) Offensive Line [Part 2] (7.3.09) |
Defensive Line [Part 1] (6.28.09) Defensive Line [Part 2] (6.29.09) Inside Linebackers (7.13.09) Outside Linebackers (7.16.09) Safeties (7.20.09) Cornerbacks [Part 1] (7.22.09) Cornerbacks [Part 2] (7.27.09) Special Teams (7.18.09) |
With each of the 16 training camp posts, there was a poll at the end of them, highlighting some of the top questions that would be on the minds of fans heading into training camp. Here they are, in summary:
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If Eric Mangini decides to start Derek Anderson over Brady Quinn this season, which statement below would best summarize your thoughts? Thank god! I WANT Anderson to start! : 72 votes Thoughts: I'm on the fence here. Part of the reason we grew tired of Crennel was he reluctance to play Quinn. If Mangini feels Anderson is better for his system though, I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in his first season. Quinn will probably start when it's all said and done, though. What role do you think rookie RB James Davis will end up holding to start the season? The "Leon Washington" role (No. 2 RB) : 97 votes Thoughts: Jerome Harrison should have the Leon Washington role locked up, so I'm more interested in seeing how much an improvement Davis can offer over last year's Jason Wright. Who will be our backup fullback this season (and "who cares" is not an answer!)? Charles Ali : 190 votes Thoughts: We can't have all of mooncamping's fullbacks, but I won't go as drastic as carrying only one of them. Keep Ali. Which RG and RT combination do you expect to see starting in Week 1? Tucker at RG, St. Clair at RT : 118 votes Thoughts: The combination highlighted is the one I want too. Hopefully the rumors of Ryan Tucker's thoughts on retiring don't pan out. If they do, then none of these poll options really apply. We'd probably see Womack or Hadnot at RG, with St. Clair at RT. Which non-veteran backup offensive lineman, excluding Isaac Sowells, are you most intrigued by? Dustin Fry : 83 votes Thoughts: At 350 pounds, I want to see if Quarterman has some skill to go along with his size. Which player will be the Browns' slot receiver to open the season? Mike Furrey : 754 votes Thoughts: Furrey had one great receiving season with the Rams, but there's easily a chance that he could turn out to be this year's Kevin Kasper -- high hopes, but no roster spot. Which of the following younger receivers is your favorite? Syndric Steptoe : 59 votes Thoughts: I'm surprised that Steptoe got so many votes. I think Leggett might be the best of this bunch right now, but will probably be overshadowed. If Mangini decided to say, "you know what, I'm having one definitive tight end who will basically be the only tight end who plays", which player would you like that to be, considering the rest of Mangini's gameplan? Robert Royal : 93 votes Thoughts: Rucker has been getting great reviews from minicamps, and rumors are now starting that it's Heiden's job to lose over Royal. I used to think Royal had the starting role locked up, but now I'm not so sure. |
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(Two part question) Do you see DL Shaun Smith making the final roster? Who is the NT behind Shaun Rogers? S. Smith makes the team, A. Rubin is the backup NT : 139 votes Thoughts: A lot of people want Smith to be gone, and a lot of people want Rubin to be the backup nose tackle. While I wouldn't be sorry to see Smith's mouth gone, if Mangini feels he can "get him under control", Smith would be an asset to our depth. Which player would you rather see worked into the ILB rotation more this season? Beau Bell : 452 votes Thoughts: A close battle between Bell and Maiava. I hope the coaching staff gives Bell a fair chance at this spot, considering he was screwed by Crennel last year. Who do you think will start at OLB opposite Kamerion Wimbley? David Bowens : 228 votes Thoughts: Alex Hall all the way! Bowens is the "safe" pick as a veteran, but Hall is the one who could have the most impact this year as Veikune waits in the wings. Which safety do you think has more potential? Brodney Pool : 191 votes Thoughts: This was probably an easy choice to many -- Pool has had a few years to start and might have already peaked, while Elam is receiving his first chance. Between Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald, and Roderick Hood, which pair would you like to see starting (the cornerback not listed would then be the nickel back)? Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald : 258 votes Which cornerback will make the 53-man roster (if you think more than one will, pick the most likely one)? Coye Francies : 239 votes Thoughts: The Browns bought Francies when his stock was low with the chance of his value being high. With so many veteran corners on the Browns though, is there a spot for him on the 53-man roster? Will Phil Dawson be kicking for the Browns this season? Yes : 485 votes Thoughts: I hope so too. |
Finally, with some of the Browns' draft picks signing, it's best to keep up with the current roster, since some of the players from the training camp previews are no longer with the team. Here is the roster as it stands now:
| OFFENSIVE ROSTER | DEFENSIVE / ST ROSTER |
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Quarterbacks (4): Running Backs (4): Fullbacks (2): Wide Receivers (10): Tight Ends (5): Offensive Line (13):
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Defensive Linemen (11): Inside Linebackers (6): Outside Linebackers (8): Safeties (6): Cornerbacks (8): Special Teams (4): NO. OF PLAYERS: 81 |
80 players should be the cap for the start of training camp, so when we sign Brian Robiskie, someone else will be immediately waived. We might actually be at 79 players, depending on how long Francies and Edwards stay on the non-football injury list.
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I don't post here much
But I wanted to say, Chris, that you do a great job with this site. I read each and everyone of your previews and now I know a lot more about our Browns heading into Training Camp.
Can’t wait for the season to start.
"There's nothing that cleanses the soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." Woody Hayes.
by rose_11 on Jul 29, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bell and all the other players we acquired who were basically ignored by Crennell.
by tjk_doc on Jul 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
You have to be thankful that’s over!
That’s a lot of work and research!
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by theW0LF on Jul 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
53 man roster prediction:
QB
1. Quinn
2. Anderson
3. Ratliff
HB
4. Lewis
5. Jerome “the Ghost” Harrison
6. Davis
FB
7. Vickers
WR
8. Braylon
9. Robiskie
10. Massaquoi
11. Furrey
12. Patten
13. Cribbs
TE
14. Rucker
15. Heiden
16. Royal
OL
17. Thomas
18. Steinbach
19. Mack
20. Tucker
21. Womack
22. St. Clair
23. Foster
24. Hadnot
DL
25. Shaun Rogers
26. Corey Williams
27. Robaire Smith
28. Kenyon Coleman
29. CJ Mosley
30. Athya Rubin
31. Shaun Smith
LB
32. Wimbley
33. Jackson
34. Barton
35. Bowens
36. Veikune
37. Hall
38. Maiava
39. Bell
40. Leon Williams
CB
41. Wright
42. McDonald
43. Hood
44. Poteat
45. Francies
46. Carey
S
47. Pool
48. Elam
49. Adams
50. Sorensen
ST
51. Pontbriand
52. Dawson
53. Zastudil
by rufio on Jul 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I predict Carey on the practice squad and S. Smith cut, and Ali and maybe Costanzo on the roster.
What would you say the practice squad will look like?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m guess Furrey over Massaquoi for the #3 spot, but really wouldn’t mind seeing it the other way around either. The more time our rookies have to develop, the better off they’ll be.
2009 Prediction: Att - Yds - TD
Jerome Harrison 95 - 532 - 8
by Simmsinns on Jul 29, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I wasn’t really trying to project a depth chart, just throwing up players as I remembered them. I really don’t care who wins that #3 WR battle, whoever it is will be better than Steptoe and they should be a legit NFL guy.
by rufio on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll have my roster projection thingy / post up tomorrow or Friday; not that it’ll look a lot different than yours.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks so much, you’ve done a wonderful job..and continue to do so. It is so appreciated!
by brownsfan100 on Jul 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Norwood is a sleeper, bring him up from the practice squad after mid-season.
by brownsfan100 on Jul 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have 81 current players. Are Marcus Benard (LB) and Branndon Braxton (OL) still on the team?
by Rpd27 on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for pointing this out; for whatever reason, neither of these players were listed on the DBN roster page (that page comes from our stats provider; I can’t edit it). I’ll try to go back and edit the OL and LB posts if I have time to preview both men.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 29, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re welcome, only reason I noticed is that I agree with Coye and Brayon off and Robiski not signed that would bring us to 78, so we don’t have to cut anyone until all 3 are active.
By the way, your reviews were top notch and really enjoyed each one. Thanks!
by Rpd27 on Jul 29, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Sir! Well cooked, well seasoned, well served!
Some of you omited Abdullah and Ruud, who should most certainly make the roster. I also like Madsen, Hunt and Hoppel as developmental players.
Some others on the other hand, seem like fluffers and stuffers on the roster, with no real appeal towards showing something special. In those case I would like to consider shopping them around as “Browns products”.
Quinn, Edwards, Anderson and Cribbs, I would much prefer having their value in draft picks. Make someone else happy, and be sitting pretty when the 2010 and 2011 drafts come along.
by mooncamping on Jul 30, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why don’t we completely dismantle the team while we’re at it and ship out pontbriand, dawson, zastudil, and wimbley while we’re at it and hack all of the talent out of the team
by North Coast Flea on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sir, I think you are lost, this is a Cleveland Browns message board, I think you are looking for Mark Shapiro’s office as it seems you have their secret plans.
by mgtbfb on Jul 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Good idea. Ship out both Quinn and Anderson. Have Shaun Rogers sitting at QB. They wouldn’t be able to sack him, he’ll just shove them off. Who’ll he be throwing to? I really like Corey Williams running a hail mary.
/sarcasm.
by skipkirk on Jul 30, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tucker at RT and Womack at RG seems the best combo to me
However, if Tucker does retire, St. Clair might not cut the weight.
Would Womack move to tackle and Fraley take over guard duty?
by ryebr3ad on Jul 30, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but Fraley and Womack as a Tackle would probably be worst case scenario
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 30, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
St. Clair might not cut the weight.
Please explain what you mean by this. St. Clair is listed at 320 lbs, which is a perfectly acceptable weight for a RT.
I don’t think Fraley can play guard. Mack can probably play guard. I really don’t want Fraley on the line, though—I just think a combination of Hadnot and Mack at either two spots is better than Fraley and either Mack/Hadnot. Womack has played RT in the past but I don’t think he’s going to be better there than St. Clair.
by rufio on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Foster has some potential to be next in line after Tucker at RT. He contributed well while in Denver.
by NM Dawg on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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