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Browns Training Camp Report: Day 1 (Morning)

The Cavs came up short. The Indians are out of contention. Ladies and gentlemen, it is officially time once again to shift all of your attention to the Cleveland Browns, as training camp started today. There were two sessions scheduled for Day 1 -- this one covers the morning session. The notes in this report, along with most future reports, are a recap from various sources which will be linked to at the conclusion of the report.

TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 1 [MORNING] (8/1/09)

  1. Not Taking Things Lightly: Eric Mangini isn't wasting any time with his training camps. Everyone is reporting that they were surprised to see a lot of contact during drills today. Tony Grossi of the Plain Dealer reported that there was more contact in Mangini's first practice than you'd see in a week's worth of Crennel's practices. If the Browns are to have more aggression and stamina during games, this is the only acceptable approach in my book.
  2. Robaire80109_medium DL Robaire Smith was at practice and ready for battle.
  3. More Proof of Contact: One person stood out during practice, but for different reasons. Steve Heiden was the only player wearing a red shirt, and that is because the coaches wanted his contact to be limited since he is coming off of surgery.
  4. No Holdouts...Yet: As expected, Joshua Cribbs and Phil Dawson both showed up in camp. Cribbs previously stated he would attend practices, and with Parker Douglass being waived yesterday, it seemed like a sign that Dawson would take the field.
  5. The Injury Front: The only players on the sidelines were Braylon Edwards and Coye Francies. I still wonder what's up with Francies. Edwards was reportedly on the stationary bike and not limping. I was very pleased to hear that Robaire Smith was near a full-go right off the bat; that is great news for our defensive line. Ryan Tucker was also in practice and has chosen not to retire this season.
  6. Quarterback Battle: Although Brady Quinn was the first quarterback to play, he and Derek Anderson received equal playing time. Mangini is calling this an "open competition". While it's only the first practice, the OBR had an interesting statement from their perspective on the practice:
    If you’re scoring at home, the first practice went to Anderson. He looked sharp in the workout and hit rookie receiver Brian Robiskie on a crossing route for a touchdown and also Syndric Steptoe. However, he was intercepted by Mike Adams.
    Both quarterbacks reportedly did not go away from their strengths -- Anderson threw the ball deep, while Quinn stayed with the short routes.
  7. Quinn80109_medium QB Brady Quinn throws a pass on Day 1.

  8. Bubble Watch: This is a new feature I'll try to incorporate in this year's previews, including tidbits on players that are "on the bubble" for a roster spot. First up is LB Beau Bell, who had a nice hit during the scrimmages, according to the OBR. The OBR also had perhaps a surprising note on S Nick Sorensen, stating that unlike other safeties from the practice, he was one of the few who wasn't getting burned.
  9. Starting Offensive Line: The starting offensive line consisted of Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach, Hank Fraley, Floyd Womack, and John St. Clair. That should change gradually, with Alex Mack eventually taking over center and Ryan Tucker also being worked in.
  10. Robiskie Signed and Producing: Right after being signed, Brian Robiskie got to work and had a very good first practice.
  11. Play of the Day: The play of the day might have belonged to WR Lance Leggett, a player that I showed some favoritism towards in my training camp previews. Despite the fact that Eric Wright interfered on the play, Leggett made a one-handed catch in the corner of the end zone for a touchdown.
  12. Always Good to Hear: Direct from the OBR:
    OLB Alex Hall made an impression early in training camp practice on Saturday. The second-year player gained the appreciation of players and coaches alike due to his ability to stay with RBs coming out of the backfield in team drills.
    Take this opportunity and run with it, Hall.
  13. Clear Skies: For those outside of Cleveland, if you weren't under a tree in the shade today, the sun was beating down nonstop this morning.
  14. Shaun Smith = Lazy: According to fans, it's not a good start to camp for DL Shaun Smith, who was told by the staff earlier in the offseason to "shape up or shut up". Smith reportedly looked out of shape, out of position, off balance, and didn't appear to have much intensity.  Instead, he'll save the intensity for a greater cause, like punching another teammate in the face.
  15. New Drill for Dawson: This year, the goal posts are narrower on one of the practice fields. Dawson liked the challenge: "Make the slightest little mistake, and you're going to miss."

After practice, Mangini stated that the team had no interest in Michael Vick and that there were no updates on the status of Donte Stallworth.

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OLB Alex Hall made an impression early in training camp practice on Saturday.

It would be all too perfect if Hall steps up and becomes a player.

The OBR also had perhaps a surprising note on S Nick Sorensen, stating that unlike other safeties from the practice, he was one of the few who wasn’t getting burned.

So our WR’s are getting open. I’m all about the positive today…

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 1, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets hope the receivers are doing good and not the DBs doing bad

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it sounded like Robiskie especially was smooth. I also saw a note from the OBR that Mike Furrey looked crisp as well. Steptoe caught one of Anderson’s two touchdown passes (Leggett caught the other). Haven’t heard anything on MoMass, Patten, or any of the other guys.

Abdullah was also cited as one of the safeties who did get burned.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Abdullah was also cited as one of the safeties who did get burned.

Read this, mooncamping.

by gahnki on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There has to be contact in practice. We need to eliminate the arm tackles!!!!!!!!!
I don’t know if it’s just me, but arm tackles in the NFL get on my damn nerves.

by Brownie's Year on Aug 1, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Sometimes in the NFL, the athletes on offense are so good that even a quality defender will need to make “arm tackles”. As long as a defense gets the opposing team on the ground, slows them down significantly if they can’t get them down, and swarms to the ball they’ll be solid.

Under Romeo/Mel, our defenders would stop their momentum to make sure they avoided “arm tackles”, so we usually wrapped the ball carrier up, but that ball carrier usually took a lot of momentum in to our stationary players, who would then get dragged an additional 2-4 yards. I wouldn’t mind seeing a change there, even if it meant a few more broken tackles (assuming we could stop ball carriers 2-4 yards shorter on the tackles we did make).

I do agree that more hitting in practice vs. under Romeo = better.

by rufio on Aug 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey rufio, who looks to be hitting better in the picture on the top, Titus or Costanza

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda hard to tell? I’ll go with Titus if I have to choose.

by rufio on Aug 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im glad are day wasnt like this

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Well no matter the skill level the raiders are one of the most dysfunctional and poorly run teams in the league. Most of the players are grossly over payed and up until now probably never opened a playbook. Some one needs to teach that team how to actually play.

by archon095 on Aug 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can anyone help me think of a good fantasy football name that has to do with the Browns?

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Brady’s Beasty Brownies.

by skipkirk on Aug 2, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about Alice B. Toklas? (you know, the marijuana brownies)

by drjeo on Aug 3, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I updated the post with information on Shaun Smith — not positive either.

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought your Shaun Smith comment was funny. I think it will be VERY tough for him to make the final roster

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve also heard that Shaun Rodgers tore Mack up in one on ones. Not terrible surprising to see a rookie struggle at his first real practice though.

by archon095 on Aug 1, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

All that tells me is that Alex Mack is like every other human on planet earth.

No one can handle Shaun Rogers 1 on 1.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is unrealistic to expect a rookie to block Shaun Rogers 1 on 1. Really, it is unrealistic to expect anyone to block Shaun 1 on 1

by BradyQuinnisBeast on Aug 1, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good training for the kid I say.

by skipkirk on Aug 2, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

No link to my page?

Here is my training camp analysis then.

http://dawgscooper.blogspot.com/2009/08/cleveland-browns-training-camp-845-am.html

http://dawgscooper.blogspot.com
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by theW0LF on Aug 2, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Very cool write-up; always funner to read a fan’s recap opposed to the media’s recap. I saw at the bottom of your post that you’ll be attending Monday again; I’ll make sure I keep visiting back to your blog to link my readers there with your updates. I’ll also include your AM practice link in my evening practice summary (to be posted soon).

Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.

by Chris Pokorny on Aug 2, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quarterback controversy

As always it’s time for Browns training camp. That also means it’s time for another installment of " who’s top dawg. This has been an annual theme since our return from Modell Exile. Couch, Holcolmb, Anderson, Quinn, maybe even you. So whos it gonna be is the question on every Browns fans mind. As we’ve seen from teams around the league and learned from our own experience the position of NFL quarterback is a dangerous job. Can either Anderson or Quinn stay healthy for an entire season? That hasn’t been done since the days of the great Bernie Kosar. I really don’t think that too much emphasis can be placed on who the starter will be week one against Minnesota (another team with a rich Quarterback tradition). Both guys will get a chance to start while the other one is healing up from getting punished behind our “Swiss Cheese” offensive line. Last year we started 4 different quarterbacks. They all got beat to death by opposing defenses. The focus should be put on who’s starting at center, guard and tackle. That will make or break any quarterback. No one can complete a pass with a linbacker throwing them around like a rag doll. Bernie had the mobility of an aircraft carrier but that line gave him time to look, set and throw. Our current QB’s need that kind of protection. Without it it really doesn’t matter who’s going to be brunch on Sunday afternoon. From what we saw last year Quinn has better mobility and should have better sucess in avoiding the pass rush. Keep you helmet handy Derrick it’s a long season and you’ll still get plenty of playing time. The theme? Pass protection. Without it we’ll be calling Michael Vick around Thanksgiving.

by mapt351 on Aug 2, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

There is so much wrong with this I don’t know where to begin.

by rufio on Aug 2, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll start. One blob of a paragraph that deters me from starting

by Roger Dorn on Aug 2, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really had me going with the “maybe even you” part. I was hoping for some tips on how I could land some guaranteed money before sliding off into QB oblivion. It really would be quite an accomplishment at my age. sigh

by JustBob on Aug 3, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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